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lester1/2jr
10-25-2010, 04:47 PM
I've lived here my whole life so I'm not fronting

Saving Lives by Taxing Alcohol (http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/10/24/saving_lives_by_taxing_alcohol/)

Imagine having to read stuff like this in your local papers Op ED




That November ballot initiative would eliminate the Massachusetts sales tax that was extended to alcohol last year. The initiative is being pushed by the liquor store lobby, which moans that the 6.25 percent sales tax is killing business, particularly along the New Hampshire border. But just as restaurant and bar owners once cried that smoking bans would shutter their doors, the liquor lobby is making claims that, at least for now, are not proving true.

Anyway, even if the tax does somewhat reduce alcohol sales over time, the benefits to society could be significant. :rolleyes: *

According to the state Department of Revenue, the tax raised $97 million in fiscal year 2010. It is projected to rise to $110 million in fiscal year 2011. Already, in the first quarter of the new fiscal 2011, the sales tax brought in $33.2 million, $4 million more than what was projected. Furthermore, already existing excise taxes on alcohol showed only a tiny drop between fiscal 2009 and fiscal 2010, from $72 million to $71 million. This suggests that sales of alcohol at liquor stores have not substantially declined.



*He's not kidding there.


sales haven't dropped much probably because people are cutting OTHER purchases because THEY LOVE TO DRINK



Meanwhile, the sales tax on liquor has notable benefits. First, it is dedicated to state substance abuse programs

that just started a few months ago when this tax was introduced?



Thus, that case of beer helps keep school health programs afloat.

what do you hate kids, broke alkie ?? :p



Second, to the extent that the tax has discouraged some people from buying alcohol, the effect is likely strongest among underage drinkers. As Botticelli put it, “every analysis says that whenever you raise the price of things like tobacco or alcohol, underage kids are price-sensitive.’’




college kids party with their parents money



A study this month in the American Journal of Public Health found that doubling alcohol taxes results in 35 percent fewer alcohol-related deaths, 11 percent fewer traffic accidents, and other reductions in sexually transmitted diseases, violence, and crime

if we didn't have cars there'd be no car deaths either.

In our defense, the comments are uniformly really negative.

Andrew-Austin
10-25-2010, 04:50 PM
Alcohol is the number one good stolen from grocery stores.

Sentient Void
10-25-2010, 05:55 PM
Fucking statist massholes.

I live here, I know.

ItsTime
10-25-2010, 05:57 PM
Please keep raising your booze tax, we are breaking booze sale records here in New Hampshire.

Thanks for your help Mass!

wormyguy
10-25-2010, 05:58 PM
Yeah . . .

(Although I'm actually considering voting against the proposition, since I believe that if you must have a sales tax, it ought to be uniform).

Sentient Void
10-25-2010, 06:01 PM
Please keep raising your booze tax, we are breaking booze sale records here in New Hampshire.

Thanks for your help Mass!

lol, seriously.

Well, I signed up for the FSP and plan on moving up there with my gf soon enough. Prob Nashua or some other place along the border.

ivflight
10-25-2010, 06:10 PM
Any time someone (especially a liberal) talks about "sin taxes" you need to jump on that opportunity. It is not often that liberals get economics right, but when they do you need to ride the concept to conclusion. In this case, if the person agrees that taxes on alcohol will reduce consumption amongst those least able to afford it, you must quickly ask, then what happens when we tax employment (like FICA taxes)? Surely, there will be less employment, starting with the smallest businesses.

"uhh, umm, uhh, but i said..., but you said...., and noam chomsky is a really smart guy and..."

ItsTime
10-25-2010, 06:12 PM
lol, seriously.

Well, I signed up for the FSP and plan on moving up there with my gf soon enough. Prob Nashua or some other place along the border.

Yeah seriously. :D Come on over, the we dont bite.

JacksonianBME
10-25-2010, 07:22 PM
Fuck these bitchez. Alcohel producers are already taxed out tthe ass. Jack daniels here in tennesse says they're taxed 60%. shit load of thax bitchs.

ps; i'm drunk what a coincident.

Aratus
10-26-2010, 07:58 AM
puritans sin tax.:p i am half yankee and half irish. in my veins in terms of bloodline
my ancestor elder brewster quarrels with edmund burke's kin. the prostestant i
am enjoys taxing sin as my catholic impulses decry greater and lesser sins, thusly!
even if we actually have our sales tax lowered to 3% we may keep our tax on booze.

jmhudak17
10-26-2010, 08:23 AM
Oh government please save me from myself.

Aratus
10-26-2010, 08:31 AM
mass~wholes often permanently flee up to N.H

roger williams ran into socialistic utopian puritans

roger williams then puts rhode island on the map

Fredom101
10-26-2010, 08:36 AM
Any time someone (especially a liberal) talks about "sin taxes" you need to jump on that opportunity. It is not often that liberals get economics right, but when they do you need to ride the concept to conclusion. In this case, if the person agrees that taxes on alcohol will reduce consumption amongst those least able to afford it, you must quickly ask, then what happens when we tax employment (like FICA taxes)? Surely, there will be less employment, starting with the smallest businesses.

"uhh, umm, uhh, but i said..., but you said...., and noam chomsky is a really smart guy and..."

Good one, thanks! I hadn't thought of that, but it's so true. :)

lester1/2jr
10-26-2010, 09:32 AM
I just paid like 30 dollars for a dumb bottle of Absolut. I want this guy fired.