So Lewrockwell now advertizes on Drudge

[winston_blade]

Thought it was kind of weird, but probably a good idea.

[Cowlesy]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5514/lrcad.png


:D

[ClayTrainor]

I can't help but wonder what kind of return Lew is getting for his $$$.

[low preference guy]

I can't help but wonder what kind of return Lew is getting for his $$$.

honestly, i suspect the ad would scare most drudge readers.

[AGRP]

I think its been up there for a few days! :D

[Cowlesy]

honestly, i suspect the ad would scare most drudge readers.

I agree.

I think it's meant to be jolting, but I don't know squat about effective advertising.

[FrankRep]

honestly, i suspect the ad would scare most drudge readers.
I certainly don't support Anarchy and I doubt Drudge Report readers will either.

[ClayTrainor]

honestly, i suspect the ad would scare most drudge readers.

I don't know enough about drudge's demographics to say, but I think the casual viewer would be turned off by the word "anarcho" and the Big bloody looking A, for sure.

I think the term Voluntaryism and logo for it would have better mass appeal than his anarcho-capitalism ad, for sure.

http://politicalconferences.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Voluntaryism.gif

[low preference guy]

I don't know enough about drudge's demographics to say, but I think the casual viewer would be turned off by the word "anarcho" and the Big bloody looking A, for sure.

I think the term Voluntaryism and logo for it would have better mass appeal than his anarcho-capitalism ad, for sure.

http://politicalconferences.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Voluntaryism.gif

i'm not an anarchist but damn, that's a great logo.

it has trade... and a little of black market in it, shown in a positive light.

[ClayTrainor]

i'm not an anarchist but damn, that's a great logo.

I agree, It's a dam fine logo. I was playing around with it in Adobe after effects last night, for a video Idea i have. What do you think?

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7920/voluntarism.png

[jkr]

newt advertises on here..


11.5.2010

[jkr]

ugh!

YouTube - Roy Shivers - 9/11 Inside Job (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F2DrfjKF4E&feature=related)

had to shake it off!

lets call him salamander...

[ClayTrainor]

newt advertises on here..


11.5.2010

What?


ugh!

had to shake it off!

lets call him salamander...

huh?

I don't understand... :confused:

[mport1]

I'm thinking he may get some more clicks because it will shock a lot of people. Maybe a better idea than playing it safe with a less controversial ad.

[teamrican1]

The Red A is definitely a better symbol than that yellow black triangle thingie. You think an Asian guy shaking a Black dude's hand in a vaguely soviet styled triangle is going to appeal to Lew's target audience? Anarcho-Capitalism has been the most popular school of anarchism among American intellectuals for decades now, so it's about time we seized the word and the imagery.

[itshappening]

"anarcho capitalism" is a pretty bad term to use to introduce people (including conservatives) to Lew Rockwell

He needs someone with a marketing degree to help him out

[libertybrewcity]

I think he is going for making a statement instead of marketing.

[LibertyEagle]

I think he is going for making a statement instead of marketing.

Oh, he is and the statement is, RUN as far away from that site and anything it purports, as fast as you can.

Which, of course, is unfortunate.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Oh, he is and the statement is, RUN as far away from that site and anything it purports, as fast as you can.

Which, of course, is unfortunate.

Like a good pavlovian you exhibit every diagnosed sign of Pavlovianism. (Edit: Ok now you are on ignore :p)

[itshappening]

L. Eagle is right though, we want to introduce conservatives to Lew Rockwell not frighten them off !

He needs a softer "sell"...

[HOLLYWOOD]

I want to see pictures of William Jefferson Clinton yakkin at a half empty gym

PS: Lew doesn't know jack about marketing/branding... sad

[Romulus]

Major facepalm for Lew. Horrible. Horrible. Horrible.
attempts to market his site with that logo/message.




http://politicalconferences.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Voluntaryism.gif

^This is golden.

[teamrican1]

L. Eagle is right though, we want to introduce conservatives to Lew Rockwell not frighten them off !

He needs a softer "sell"...

And you think a multi-culturist looking soviet styled symbol would be a better choice? A "softer" sell might be more appropriate for a site that skews older or heavily partisan like Free Republic or something, but the "A" is a perfect marketing ploy to make a splash on a widely read (especially by the young) site like Drudge. People under 40 aren't going to be scared off by a symbol that looks just like the one Warner Brothers used to push "V is for Vendetta".

[FrankRep]

http://politicalconferences.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Voluntaryism.gif[/QUOTE]


And you think a multi-culturist looking soviet styled symbol would be a better choice?

Look Familiar?


Democratic Socialists of America
http://talt.home.igc.org/DSAWeb/graphics/DSAnewintro.JPG


Newsweek: We're all Socialists now
http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/we-are-all-socialists-now-229x300.jpg

[Tal]

Yeah I think it would probably be better if Lew advertised with the slogan on lewrockwell.com ''anti-state, anti-war, pro-market'', you sorta have to ease people into this whole anarchism thing, otherwise they are just gonna run away screaming.

[LibertyEagle]

And you think a multi-culturist looking soviet styled symbol would be a better choice? A "softer" sell might be more appropriate for a site that skews older or heavily partisan like Free Republic or something, but the "A" is a perfect marketing ploy to make a splash on a widely read (especially by the young) site like Drudge. People under 40 aren't going to be scared off by a symbol that looks just like the one Warner Brothers used to push "V is for Vendetta".

Have some market research to support that?

[Romulus]

Yeah I think it would probably be better if Lew advertised with the slogan on lewrockwell.com ''anti-state, anti-war, pro-market'', you sorta have to ease people into this whole anarchism thing, otherwise they are just gonna run away screaming.

lmao!

[teamrican1]

Yeah I think it would probably be better if Lew advertised with the slogan on lewrockwell.com ''anti-state, anti-war, pro-market'', you sorta have to ease people into this whole anarchism thing, otherwise they are just gonna run away screaming.

Yeah, but you have to get people's attention too. A large percentage of Drudge readers are young, college aged people who aren't going to be afraid of the "A" word. And attracting younger folks who are not yet set in their ways is probably a much better bet for a radical site like Lew's anyway because the "conservative" old fogy who responds to your "tailored" message is just going to freak out and run away once he gets to the site and starts reading all the anti-police, anti-war, anti-Lincoln, anti-democracy blog posts.

[itshappening]

Drudge readers tend to be neocon sheep who need to be re-educated, not college kids

Those are the kind Lew Rockwell needs to attract to his site, to change opinion and hearts and minds

He will scare them off with talk of anarcho capitalism and such

[Romulus]

Look Familiar?


oh noes. Handshakes = Socialism!

[Theocrat]

I don't know enough about drudge's demographics to say, but I think the casual viewer would be turned off by the word "anarcho" and the Big bloody looking A, for sure.

I think the term Voluntaryism and logo for it would have better mass appeal than his anarcho-capitalism ad, for sure.

http://politicalconferences.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Voluntaryism.gif

Notice how the triangle aims downward, which points in the correct direction of where anarchism (whatever form it takes) will lead society. Inherently, it is an epic downfall of society.

[low preference guy]

Notice how the triangle aims downward, which points in the correct direction of where anarchism (whatever form it takes) will lead society. Inherently, it is an epic downfall of society.

hahaha!

Theo's posts are often well written or witty. But this one is a disappointment. Hope he repents and gets better.

[Erazmus]

For those of you wondering what Lew Rockwell was thinking when he used the image he did. Maybe this will shed some light. Below is a quote from the Introduction of "For a New Liberty." The Introduction was written by Rockwell.


It is also striking how Rothbard chose to pull no punches in his argument. Other intellectuals on the receiving end of such an invitation might have tended to water down the argument to make it more palatable. Why, for example, make a case for statelessness or anarchism when a case for limited government might bring more people into the movement? Why condemn U.S. imperialism when doing so can only limit the book’s appeal to anti-Soviet conservatives who might otherwise appreciate the free-market bent? Why go into such depth about privatizing courts and roads and water when doing so might risk alienating people? Why enter into the sticky area of regulation of consumption and of personal morality—and do it with such disorienting consistency—when it would have surely drawn a larger audience to leave it out? And why go into such detail about monetary affairs and central banking and the like when a watered-down case for free-enterprise would have pleased so many Chamber-of-Commerce conservatives?

But trimming and compromising for the sake of the times or the audience was just not his way.

Now, he was talking about Rothbard. But I think it's reasonable to assume this is also Lew's attitude.

For a New Liberty (http://mises.org/books/newliberty.pdf)

[CCTelander]

For those of you wondering what Lew Rockwell was thinking when he used the image he did. Maybe this will shed some light. Below is a quote from the Introduction of "For a New Liberty." The Introduction was written by Rockwell.



Now, he was talking about Rothbard. But I think it's reasonable to assume this is also Lew's attitude.

For a New Liberty (http://mises.org/books/newliberty.pdf)


I'd agree, both with your comment and Lew's attitude.

[teamrican1]

Drudge readers tend to be neocon sheep who need to be re-educated, not college kids

Those are the kind Lew Rockwell needs to attract to his site, to change opinion and hearts and minds

He will scare them off with talk of anarcho capitalism and such


I don't really get your concern about a symbol of anarcho-capitalism driving people off. Wouldn't people prone to be driven off by that be driven off just as easily by the hard core anarcho-capitalist ideology that permeates every single article and post on Lewrockwell.com? I mean, it is an anarcho-capitalist site. You can't trick people in to accepting anarcho-capitalism.

[Sentient Void]

I don't really get your concern about a symbol of anarcho-capitalism driving people off. Wouldn't people prone to be driven off by that be driven off just as easily by the hard core anarcho-capitalist ideology that permeates every single article and post on Lewrockwell.com? I mean, it is an anarcho-capitalist site. You can't trick people in to accepting anarcho-capitalism.

Personally, I think it's smarter instead of selling anarcho-capitalism, to sew the seeds of dissent and seeds of anarcho-capitalism by exposing the state for the *always* inherently immoral, inefficient, wasteful, corrupt, violent institution that it is.

Anarcho-capitalism will take hold on it's own from there, once people seek it out. That's how, initially as a minarchist (and prior to hat a ragign imperialist neocon, and prior to tha a socialist scumbag liberal), I came to finally acknowledge it (after a long period of stockholm syndrome to the state).

I think, ultimately, they will accomplish more by instead of selling 'anarcho-capitalism' or 'anarchism' through their advertisements specifically, selling what someone mentioned as anti-state, pro-market, pro-logic, etc etc. And you don't have to water down the message by selling it as such, neither.

I think it's true and understandable that, due to the stockholm syndrome to the state, and the unfortunate associations with 'anarchism', that trying to sell 'anarcho-capitalism' causes people to run away in blind fear.

[Humanae Libertas]

http://politicalconferences.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Voluntaryism.gif

http://www.aidd.org/images/illuminati-seal.jpg

http://fusionanomaly.net/illuminati.jpg

Sorry, I just had to...:D