Republican National Committee: we're happy about Dr. Paul

[Bradley in DC]

As a few of you may have noticed, I've been a wee bit obsessed with getting Dr. Paul elected to restore the republic. First of course, we're going to win the Republican nomination and beat Hillary. In order to get that nomination, we're going to win most of the delegates. Sounds simple enough, right?

Well, I've worked and managed political campaigns including the delegate candidate/ballot petitioning project for Forbes both times in Ohio. There one had to submit ballot petitions in each Congressional District and also At-Large (statewide). The candidate is only on the ballot in each of the CDs where you file enough valid signatures on signed affidavit petitions. The Dole (1996) and Bush (2000) lawyers examined all of the ballot petitions submitted to the Ohio Board of Elections in the public examination period and look for any mistakes (there invariably are: people forget to sign, put the wrong address from where they're registered, think they're registered but they're not, etc.). Through these challenges, they kept some of the candidates off the ballot in some CDs.

I was part of the Forbes team that made sure we dotted all of our "I"s and crossed all of our "T"s and got us on the ballot in all CDs and AL both times. So, now, I'm obsessing to make sure we follow the same rules as excrutiatingly closely to pre-empt the coming petition challenges (most likely this time from the Giuliani lawyers).

After grilling the DC Board of Elections and Ethics a few times and then the DC GOP too, I've worked my way up to the RNC to clarify every abiguity. So, I'm on the phone with the legal department at the RNC today. I'm trying to be as nice as possible and as upfront as possible: I'm a volunteer with the Ron Paul campaign, I'm their agent getting Dr. Paul on the ballot in DC, etc. I also explain that while I've been around this block a few times, a lot of people are really frustrated in this country right now and that the Paul campaign has tapped into that and bringing a lot people in who haven't been active previously.

Long story short, I explain that we're dealing with a lot of people that not only haven't been active previously but are new Republicans because of Dr. Paul. "Yeah, we love that," she interrupted.

Just thought some here might enjoy hearing that little anecdote.

[austin356]

Lets grow the Party!!

Glad to hear there is someone who understands and likes the idea!

[TVMH]

"a wee bit obsessed"?

Shirley, you jest. :D

[Bradley in DC]

"a wee bit obsessed"?

Shirley, you jest. :D

Don't call me Shirley. :D

[0zzy]

Awesome.

God I hope we get on every ballot, we deserve it!
We deserve to win America!

I already have a perfect attack ad for Hillary.

*Shows clip of her talking ti AIPAC*
"I will never taking anything off the table for Iran!"
*Show clip of Persian children playing in the streets, they stop and hear something, look up, look very scared. Close up to mother's eyes as she clinches her children and cries one tear. Then, BOOOM, nuclear exploding.*
"Do you want a real ant-war candidate? Vote Ron Paul - Hope for america."

AND SCENE

[runderwo]

Long story short, I explain that we're dealing with a lot of people that not only haven't been active previously but are new Republicans because of Dr. Paul. "Yeah, we love that," she interrupted.

Just thought some here might enjoy hearing that little anecdote.

Depends on the tone of voice she employed :D

[Bradley in DC]

Awesome.

God I hope we get on every ballot, we deserve it!
We deserve to win America!

I already have a perfect attack ad for Hillary.

AND SCENE

Hey 0zzy, while yes, we deserve it, we have to earn it. (and no personal attacks, not even references: look how Dr. Paul trashed the suggestion of "callling lawyers" about declaring war in the last debate without making any personal references)

[0zzy]

Hey 0zzy, while yes, we deserve it, we have to earn it. (and no personal attacks, not even references: look how Dr. Paul trashed the suggestion of "callling lawyers" about declaring war in the last debate without making any personal references)

Ya, I know :). I'm just saying I love an ad that I created in my head. I hate how people think Hilary=anti-war, or even Obama.

[angelatc]

That's great news Bradley. They would have to be blind not to see that he is the only candidate that is bringing people into the GOP.

[Bradley in DC]

Ya, I know :). I'm just saying I love an ad that I created in my head. I hate how people think Hilary=anti-war, or even Obama.

Yeah, I know. They're just against the bad wars, not the good ones. :confused:

[me3]

The simple ad for Hillary is,

Hillary Clinton voted for the War in Iraq. Ron Paul voted against the War in Iraq.

10 second campaign ad. No need to use swiftboat tactics.

[0zzy]

The simple ad for Hillary is,

Hillary Clinton voted for the War in Iraq. Ron Paul voted against the War in Iraq.

10 second campaign ad. No need to use swiftboat tactics.

Worked great for LBJ :)

[SouthernGuy15]

Yeah, they love getting new people to join the Republican party but then they will turn around and curse Ron Paul's name every opportunity they get.

[expatriot]

The simple ad for Hillary is,

Hillary Clinton voted for the War in Iraq. Ron Paul voted against the War in Iraq.

10 second campaign ad. No need to use swiftboat tactics.

Needs Video:

Prelude: King George asking if we need to invade Iraq...

Hilarious Clinton (cackling) "Yes"

Ron Paul (Pointing his pen - emphatically) "No!"

[me3]

Needs Video:

Prelude: King George asking if we need to invade Iraq...

Hilarious Clinton (cackling) "Yes"

Ron Paul (Pointing his pen - emphatically) "No!"
I was thinking picture of Hillary with text, picture of Paul with text.

You've only got a few seconds to make an impression. Too many ads try to either dilute the message, or cram too much in. The trick is to respect the viewer, not aggrandize the pulpit.

[McDermit]

Our local GOP county chairman (one ounty over) was stoked about the RP support we brought him. A handful of highly motivated and enthusiastic young people who were previously not registered or were Dems turning into active republicans was really exciting to him.

I can't even find a way to contact a GOP leader in my county here. :rolleyes:

[alaric]

Worked great for LBJ :)

just remember that lbj included the 3-2-1 boom! hydrogen bomb going off;)

[DeadheadForPaul]

Brad, it doesnt get said enough, but thanks for all you're doing!

Hope to buy you a beer if i ever run into you. Or if you're a nondrinker...a coke?

[TyTodd]

Yeah, I know. They're just against the bad wars, not the good ones. :confused:

The liberals have basically just staked out an anti-war position with respect to the Iraq situation because it is politically expedient to do so, as a majority of the American people are now opposed to the war. Otherwise, democrats are pro-war, as long as the intervention or military action is in tune with promoting their socialist agenda and American values around the world, see: Kosovo, Vietnam, World War I (thanks Woodrow!), etc.

As an aside, anyone else here think that Woodrow Wilson was one of the worst Presidents we've had (excluding Bush)? In my mind, I think he could give Roosevelt and Lincoln a run for the money, in terms of the havoc they wrecked with our political system and the original balance of power established by the Constitution...

[CMoore]

I think he deserves that title for getting us into WWI alone. If you study this war, it was a completely senseless waste of life. People were like lemmings rushing into the sea. It was fought for no apparent reason to acheive no apparent goal other than to wipe out an entire generation of European manhood. Why we got involved in it is forever and eternally a mystery to me. Americans know so little about this war and if they knew more, the scales would fall from their eyes and they would undergo a complete paradigm shift. I like that Ron Paul appreciates the significance of this period of history and its role in todays international affairs.

[noxagol]

I think he deserves that title for getting us into WWI alone. If you study this war, it was a completely senseless waste of life. People were like lemmings rushing into the sea. It was fought for no apparent reason to acheive no apparent goal other than to wipe out an entire generation of European manhood. Why we got involved in it is forever and eternally a mystery to me. Americans know so little about this war and if they knew more, the scales would fall from their eyes and they would undergo a complete paradigm shift. I like that Ron Paul appreciates the significance of this period of history and its role in todays international affairs.

Two uncle's of a friend of mine who are extreme history buffs said that WW1 was caused, behind the scenes, by France because they were mad at germany for something. And we were pushed into WW1 because Britain and France owed a lot of money to certain bankers in America, and the losers dont repay debts.

[Bradley in DC]

Brad, it doesnt get said enough, but thanks for all you're doing!

Hope to buy you a beer if i ever run into you. Or if you're a nondrinker...a coke?

Thanks. And thanks to the many people on here that help me so much! We have so much more to do yet...

I do drink, yes, but never to get drunk (but don't like either beer or coke :( ).

[CMoore]

Well, France was defeated in the Franco-Prussian war of 1870-1, they lost some territory and they were not happy about that. HOWEVER, that alone doesn't explain why they were willing to commit mass suicide over it. If WWI was not Arrmagedon, I don't think Arrmagedon is going to ever happen.

[Bradley in DC]

That's great news Bradley. They would have to be blind not to see that he is the only candidate that is bringing people into the GOP.

Also anecdotally what I see with a lot of the GOP officials I talk with and casually among Republican friends here is that they are so starved for any good news about the party. Most are quite dejected and defeatist right now and don't think the top tier can beat Hillary and are watching their party go down the drain. Okay, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the starved for good news bit I'm pretty sure is generally accurate.

[Bradley in DC]

As an aside, anyone else here think that Woodrow Wilson was one of the worst Presidents we've had (excluding Bush)? In my mind, I think he could give Roosevelt and Lincoln a run for the money, in terms of the havoc they wrecked with our political system and the original balance of power established by the Constitution...

Yeah, Wilson would be up there, but my top three worst are Lincoln (greenbacks), FDR (specie suspension) and Nixon (closing the gold window). Perhaps I need to broaden my focus...

[TyTodd]

Yeah, Wilson would be up there, but my top three worst are Lincoln (greenbacks), FDR (specie suspension) and Nixon (closing the gold window). Perhaps I need to broaden my focus...

Yeah, those are in my top five as well. Here's my rap on Wilson:

1) Entered us into WWI for no reason other than manifest destiny & wall street pressure - against the will of the people, no less!

2) Played a major role in getting the Federal Reserve Act passed. Ugh.

3) Presided over the country when the 16th Amendment was passed. Hello IRS. Good bye to my hard earned dollars and to any fiscal responsibility of the federal government.

4) Presided over the country when the newly formed Fed / central bank inflated the heck out of our Dollar. This presaged the boom of the twenties that inevitably contributed to the collapse in the depression. I read awhile back the exact figure regarding the inflation during WWI, and although I don't remember the number, I believe the money supply was increased by a ratio of 10:1 during the war or something equally ludicrous.

5) Played a major role in creating the League of Nations that lead to such sovereignty sucking groups as the UN.

That is just the tip of the iceberg with ole Woodrow! FDR and Lincoln might be more frustrating to me, as in general they are regarded as the BEST Presidents, while I would obviously put them at the bottom of the heap.

[cac1963]

The DNC was drooling over Dean's fundraising prowess ($40million online, $55million total raised) and how much he invigorated the party and the base. They found a useful place for him because of it, without loosening their grip on the power structure in the slightest. I suspect the RNC has similar designs on Paul, eying the growing party numbers with dollar signs dancing around their heads with no intentions of allowing him any position of influence in the party. They're assuming all these new republicans will vote republican regardless of the candidate, and they need to be taught very quickly that that isn't the case.

It actually worked for the dems so well because Bush is such a loathesome president that all the new Dems had to vote for Kerry even though the majority of them despised Kerry. I'll wager the RNC is thinking along the same lines, in that the republican base hates Hillary so much they'll vote for whoever the GOP nominee is. What the average republican voters need to understand is that Hillary is the GOP's preferred next president, and all this blathering on about how awful Hillary is, is nothing more than a briar patch game.

[Bradley in DC]

Yeah, those are in my top five as well. Here's my rap on Wilson:

1) Entered us into WWI for no reason other than manifest destiny & wall street pressure - against the will of the people, no less!

2) Played a major role in getting the Federal Reserve Act passed. Ugh.

3) Presided over the country when the 16th Amendment was passed. Hello IRS. Good bye to my hard earned dollars and to any fiscal responsibility of the federal government.

4) Presided over the country when the newly formed Fed / central bank inflated the heck out of our Dollar. This presaged the boom of the twenties that inevitably contributed to the collapse in the depression. I read awhile back the exact figure regarding the inflation during WWI, and although I don't remember the number, I believe the money supply was increased by a ratio of 10:1 during the war or something equally ludicrous.

5) Played a major role in creating the League of Nations that lead to such sovereignty sucking groups as the UN.

That is just the tip of the iceberg with ole Woodrow! FDR and Lincoln might be more frustrating to me, as in general they are regarded as the BEST Presidents, while I would obviously put them at the bottom of the heap.

Don't forget the Palmer raids!

[Nefertiti]

Getting delegates on the ballot is going to whittle away at the competition before the election even starts. Here in Illinois our Meetup organizer said that he expects only 3 or 4 Republicans to run a full slate of delegates here because only 3 or 4 campaigns have enough organization on the ground to gather the necessary signatures, including us. So that basically probably means Giuliani, Romney and maybe Thompson, plus Ron Paul.

[lynnf]

thanks for the account, Bradley. I did enjoy it. hope that we have the CD petitions covered for the whole country.


lynn

[Matt Collins]

See this thread for possible backroom dealings at the GOP Convention:
http://www.ronpaulforums.net/showthread.php?p=288909







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