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Reason
10-17-2010, 09:51 PM
I have the opportunity to write an email to hundreds of conservative Christians to convince them to support prop 19 this November.

I need convincing arguments, links, videos, endorsements etc that will hit home for mostly neoconservative Christians...


I just started but here is what I have so far...

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Want freedom from big govt?

The conservative voice of San Diego & now the nation, Roger Hedgecock has endorsed proposition 19!
http://www.rogerhedgecock.com/
(2010 Elections tab)

Conservative retired Superior Court Judge James P. Gray explains in depth why you should support proposition 19 this November!
YouTube - Conservative Judge on why criminals DON'T support Prop.19 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9nOWPRwjRw)

Conservative activist and mother of two, Jessica Corry explains why proposition 19 should be something you should support this November!
YouTube - Republican Mom explains why Marijuana should be taxed and regulated by Prop.19 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ls_vOtpXPM)

speciallyblend
10-17-2010, 09:54 PM
hey Reason call Mason Tvert at SAFER Colorado , give them a call or email! He might have some great suggestions for you;)

if not in leave a message! Mason knows Jessica as well.

http://www.saferchoice.org/

Reason
10-17-2010, 10:44 PM
The following email contains evidence for why conservatives should support Cannabis legalization.

If you are an individual that does not value freedom, responsibility, liberty, and logic; please delete this email now.

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The conservative voice of San Diego & now the nation, Roger Hedgecock has endorsed proposition 19!
http://www.rogerhedgecock.com/
(2010 Elections tab)

Conservative retired Superior Court Judge James P. Gray explains in depth why you should support proposition 19 this November
YouTube - Conservative Judge on why criminals DON'T support Prop.19 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9nOWPRwjRw)

Conservative activist and mother of two, Jessica Corry explains why proposition 19 should be something you should support this November
YouTube - Republican Mom explains why Marijuana should be taxed and regulated by Prop.19 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ls_vOtpXPM)

Former federal judge and senior judicial analyist for Fox News explains why you should support Prop 19
YouTube - It's Time To Legalize Marijuana! Judge Napolitano (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2GG2aM6UII)

Republican congressman Paul explains why Marijuana should be legal
http://www.cnbc.com/id/36267220/

Comprehensive 'debunking' of the most commonly used desperate anti-prop 19 arguments...
http://reason.com/archives/2010/10/06/pot-prohibitionist-prevaricati

There is a reason why more and more cops, police cheif's, sheriff's, & prosecutors are supporting legalization...
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/state&id=7666299

U.S. Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders explains why she supports cannabis legalization
YouTube - U.S. Surgeon Gen Legalize Marijuana! "We Criminalize People At The Highest Rate In The World!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olD1SiKoDVA)

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Have you ever had your front door knocked down by 20 men with assault rifles who then proceed to murder your family pets?

This family, and many others have lived through such a tragedy.

YouTube - Columbia Mo SWAT Raid 2/11/2010. Cops Shoot Pets With Children Present (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbwSwvUaRqc)

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In the other countries that have legalized cannabis the following took place...

YouTube - Portugal legalizes drugs. Crime/Usage falls. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FshBjkS6U)

Overall usage DROPPED. (It stops being edgy when you have to buy it from Walmart & get carded...)

Violence plummeted. (Criminals have no recourse when the profit motive is swept out from underneath

them)

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Ask yourself the following questions...

Which is more likely to result in violence?

A group of people drinking alcohol, or a group of people smoking cannabis?

When was the last time you saw bootleggers shooting each other?

Why do drug dealers deal drugs? = The profit motive...

Why don't drug dealers deal alcohol? = The profit motive is gone...

If you can't win a war on drugs in a prison... where do you think you're going to win it?

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If all the logic and reasoning above aren't enough to convince you to take back your personal liberty... then perhaps I should direct you to a more emotional explanation...

YouTube - Legalize Marijuana... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBMYxoveUNY)

YouTube - The Flower (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMM_T_PJ0Rs)

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More information about this proposition and all the others can be found here at an awesome wiki site called ballotpedia!

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_2010_ballot_propositions

emazur
10-17-2010, 10:46 PM
the poster GunnyFreedom seems to know his stuff, just do some editing to include marijuana:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2648396&postcount=12

I have been VERY effective on a one-on-one basis at turning evangelical social conservatives, and like Phil said, this is really a one-on-one battle.

I approach evangelicals from an evangelical perspective (I can do that, having attended a Baptist seminary and still being a passionate believer) and I usually start with the big one -- the government definition of marriage.

"Now see, I am a believer, and I believe that marriage is rightly between a man and a woman, but unlike a lot of Republicans I have a problem with our proposed solution here. The idea seems to be to get government to define marriage and to issue license and permission to engage in it. Well, to my way of thinking, marriage is the business of God, and the Church, and decidedly NOT the government. Not only do I not think that the government should be defining marriage or denying licenses, but I believe that the government shouldn't be involved in licensing STRAIGHT marriage either."

"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and render unto God what is God's -- by taking marriage out of the Church and giving it to the government you have usurped the authority of God and subverted it to a corrupt earthly government. Marriage is the providence of God, and I can guarantee you that if you let government define marriage today, then tomorrow, they WILL define God!"

Generally this meets with surprised agreement. So I continue on to other aspects of the problem.

"I also have a problem with our getting the government to police morality. I'm not saying that people should be immoral, but when we as a church or as a group of conservative believers seek to make government legislate morality we are in fact shooting ourselves in the foot."

"You see, and let's take a simple example for the sake of discussion. Say we decided to outlaw profanity. Sure, it makes for a more pleasant world for you and I to live in, but that route is very selfish, and only provides us comfort at the expense of people's eternal souls."

"Think about it, if we outlaw profanity, then people with lost souls will conform to the law in order to avoid being fined or imprisoned, but that has not changed the condition of their hearts not one bit. We as Christians are told that it's not the outside appearance that matters but the inner condition. If we just white-wash those open sepulchers, then the church will no longer be able to see who does and who does not need ministering and salvation."

"So by legislating morality, we are doing the church a disservice by covering up and hiding the lost, making them out of reach from ministry, and in fact merely providing for our temporary comfort at the expense of millions of lost souls consigned to hell just so that we can have a moments peace on this Earth. Is that really a burden that we want to carry to the judgment seat?"

This generally leads the social conservative into a state of shock and bewilderment -- but agreement -- and more often than not they come up to me some time later having been wholly converted to my perspective