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Zatch
10-09-2010, 12:29 PM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/66944.html

YouTube - ART ROBINSON vs RACHEL MADDOW pt.1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNVTFP9-iQ8)

YouTube - ART ROBINSON vs RACHEL MADDOW pt.2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0jnp2d8czU)

Stary Hickory
10-09-2010, 12:39 PM
Wow it just told like it was, nice.

CoreyBowen999
10-09-2010, 12:57 PM
She is a total Douchebag.

Travlyr
10-09-2010, 01:10 PM
People are getting sick of listening to Rachel Maddow's bullshit. MSM losers are way behind the Internet.

sync
10-09-2010, 01:10 PM
I tried to watch as much as I could. I find it very hard to listen to 2 people try to speak over each other.

lester1/2jr
10-09-2010, 01:12 PM
I agreed with him that she was unwilling to discuss the actual campaign issues, but he was clearly flummoxed by the delay and should have admitted it.

ravedown
10-09-2010, 02:40 PM
i personally didn't like his approach and his arguing did nothing to make his case...especially if he was trying to get through to the dems that watch this program...this interview accomplished nothing. i don't like maddow but her questions were legit...he avoided them directly. weak.

low preference guy
10-09-2010, 02:42 PM
this interview accomplished nothing

i'm pretty sure some conservatives saw it somehow, at least online, and a good fraction felt an irresistible urge to donate to Art.

lester1/2jr
10-09-2010, 03:11 PM
the liberals see it as a victory for their side too and are forwarding everywhere. another crazy tea party guy

ItsTime
10-09-2010, 03:16 PM
This video already has more views than she actually has watchers.

reillym
10-09-2010, 03:21 PM
Eh, pwned? she asked if there was an issue because it's anonymous. That's a legitimate question. He avoids the issue. Multiple times.

You guys are idiots. All he does is take it back to his opponent. He never answers her question.

"all you are doing is trying to smear me".

That's all he says. He's garbage.

t0rnado
10-09-2010, 03:28 PM
Eh, pwned? she asked if there was an issue because it's anonymous. That's a legitimate question. He avoids the issue. Multiple times.

You guys are idiots. All he does is take it back to his opponent. He never answers her question.

"all you are doing is trying to smear me".

That's all he says. He's garbage.

Who the fuck cares if it was anonymous?

Wren
10-09-2010, 03:32 PM
I don't see any pwnage here, just a yelling match.

Austrian Econ Disciple
10-09-2010, 03:33 PM
I think he was trying to highlight what is wrong with American politics, and politics in general. Hardly anyone ever focuses on policy or the issues, and they always go after character assassination. How on earth can you have a debate when you are given 10 seconds to answer questions almost always framed with assumptions as facts. That said, he could have come across a lot better, and I do disagree with him on some of those things (He could have articulated that we are bombarded with radiation every day - X-rays, Infrared, Neutrenos, etc.). I have never heard a hypothesis put forth before that the radiation though is actually beneficial (Besides of course getting Vit D from the radiation from the sun (UV Rays)).

Wesker1982
10-09-2010, 03:37 PM
they both come off as idiots imo

angelatc
10-09-2010, 03:41 PM
Who the fuck cares if it was anonymous?

Exactly. I believe that people should be allowed to engage in anonymous speech. If the commercial says something that's a lie, then call the commercial out. Who freaking cares who paid for it?

I don't think he was flummoxed by the delay in the least. If anybody was uncomfortable with it, it was her. He couldn't take a breath without her jumping in and trying to finish his sentences.

I never heard of it, but radiation hormesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis)is a scientific theory. It isn't crazy. There are lots of things that are good for us in small doses but poisonous in large doses. I think it's entirely possible that radiation could be one of those things. It's also entirely possible that it isn't.

Rancher
10-09-2010, 03:48 PM
Maddow brought nothing of value to this interview. Total fail on her show. A waste of time.

Zatch
10-09-2010, 03:49 PM
I hadn't heard about this guy before this interview.

He's been endorsed by the libertarian party, the constitution party and Ron Paul:

http://www.artrobinsonforcongress.com/endorsements.html

low preference guy
10-09-2010, 03:52 PM
I hadn't heard about this guy before this interview.

He's been endorsed by the libertarian party, the constitution party and Ron Paul:

http://www.artrobinsonforcongress.com/endorsements.html

Wow. People say libertarians are like cats, so if you get endorsements from the LP and Ron Paul, you must be doing something right.

Zatch
10-09-2010, 04:24 PM
She did a follow up smear piece trying to label him as a racist:


YouTube - Maddow Follow Up On Art Robinson Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx5B-vGfaas)

Valli6
10-09-2010, 04:45 PM
She did a follow up smear piece trying to label him as a racist:


UGH! I thoroughly expected they would have to turn to accusations of racism next, because the interview backfired and made him more popular. If anyone who's watched this would be so kind, how did she go about creating a racist scenario here? (I'm curious, but can't stomach listening to her talk right now)

BTW, there is a thread on this from yesterday http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=263522&highlight=Art+Robinson

Travlyr
10-09-2010, 05:09 PM
Maddow still believes in man-made global warming?!? Wow! She should get out more.

tpreitzel
10-09-2010, 05:33 PM
She did a follow up smear piece trying to label him as a racist:


YouTube - Maddow Follow Up On Art Robinson Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx5B-vGfaas)

This follow-up spot simply demonstrates the failure of her original interview. NBC obviously thought it important to spin her remarks by creating this follow-up segment. No, Rachel, the previous segment wasn't your "attempt to interview" Mr. Robinson. Your previous segment was your attempt to smear Mr. Robinson. Evidently Rachel and her producers felt a follow-up segment was necessary without Mr. Robinson present in order to smear Mr. Robinson with impunity. ;) Notice how she uses the terms, "global warming" when Art said man-made global warming. Furthermore, notice how Maddow asserts she simply wanted to ask Art questions when the previous show clearly demonstrated that her intention was to smear Art by referring to old documents written from a scientific perspective and totally ignoring a single campaign issue other than the anonymous donors to Art's campaign. Maddow's show was an obvious smear job and Art very clearly exposed her.

She looks even guiltier after this follow-up segment. It's no wonder donations to Art's campaign are steadily increasing. ;) The Democrats are obviously getting very, very nervous about this upcoming election.

angelatc
10-09-2010, 05:55 PM
I blogged about this, and got a comment with some info that you guys might be interested in.

Here's the AmSPec article Maddow started to bring up: http://www.independentscientist.com/

Here's a status report on the children: http://www.robinsoncurriculum.com/view/rc/s31p718.htm

- be sure to scroll down to "The New Jersey Incident" and learn how his kids were almost taken from him while he was on vacation with a Nobel Laureate.


Back at the hospital, they still refused to release Matthew. However, after I agreed to participate in meetings and examinations the next morning, they let him out. We, of course, immediately drove out of the state.

Austrian Econ Disciple
10-09-2010, 06:07 PM
I do like this Art Robinson fellow. Hope he wins.

tpreitzel
10-09-2010, 06:31 PM
Maddow's emphasis of GA Henty is interesting. Personally, I'm not acquainted with the works of GA Henty and I reject racism. However, Maddow is simply expressing typical liberal ideology of politically acceptable behavior when she emphasizes the works of Henty and hor-mesis and then labels Art as "kooky". Well, many unconventional ideas are seemingly "kooky" at some point, but calling unconventional ideas "kooky" is simply a ruse to silence people expressing unconventional thought.

Are the works of GA Henty appropriate for a home school curriculum for children? Liberals would never think so. Is the Holy Bible (e.g. violence) appropriate for a home school curriculum for children? Liberals would never think so. Although one may not agree that such works are appropriate from a particular political point of view, such works probably are appropriate in allowing the child to explore different ideas before deciding which ones to accept or reject. In other words, the state isn't doing the accepting or rejecting of ideas prematurely for the child, the child will do the accepting or rejecting of ideas based on critical thinking. Any good home school curriculum will include controversial subjects provoking mental development of the child. If I were developing such a home school curriculum, would I include GA Henty and an opposing view to stimulate thought? I might. My primary goal would be to encourage the child to think outside the box of propaganda and encourage the child to explore the world critically which would require many opposing points of view. Art's definitely an unconventional thinker. Actually, I'm now interested in buying his home school program to look for myself.

tpreitzel
10-09-2010, 10:07 PM
bump

Thomas
10-09-2010, 10:48 PM
omfg this guy is awesome and look at his endorsements!

● Independence Caucus
● Oregonians for Food and Shelter
● Gun Owners of America PVF
● Oregon Right to Life PAC
● Oregon Farm Bureau Federation
● Oregon Cattle PAC
● Oregon Firearms Federation PAC
● Astronaut Scott Carpenter
● Astronaut Harrison Schmitt
● Libertarian Party of Oregon
● Congressman Ron Paul
● Nominated Oregon Republican, Independent, and Constitution Parties

conclusion: DONATE!

james1906
10-10-2010, 01:19 AM
http://www.artrobinsonforcongress.com/grfx/Ron%20Paul%20020-cropped-reduced.jpeg

Odd how Maddow in her follow up is saying that Robinson doesn't have a chance getting elected, but is making a big point about this group running ads for him.

tpreitzel
10-10-2010, 01:27 AM
Odd how Maddow in her follow up is saying that Robinson doesn't have a chance getting elected, but is making a big point about this group running ads for him.
Indeed. The Democrats are running scared.

devil21
10-10-2010, 01:31 AM
Did anyone notice that this same guy is the originator of the Oregon Petition? It's been cited many times as the scientific counter to the "consensus" on AGW. He's had a target on his back for a while now already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_petition

That whole interview was painful. Instead of harping on Maddow's propaganda tactics he should have just said that he supports anyone's right to exercise their First Amendment right to free speech through political campaign ads. Everything after that was smear tactics and obvious attempts to avoid issue discussion.

tpreitzel
10-10-2010, 01:51 AM
Did anyone notice that this same guy is the originator of the Oregon Petition? It's been cited many times as the scientific counter to the "consensus" on AGW. He's had a target on his back for a while now already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_petition

That whole interview was painful. Instead of harping on Maddow's propaganda tactics he should have just said that he supports anyone's right to exercise their First Amendment right to free speech through political campaign ads. Everything after that was smear tactics and obvious attempts to avoid issue discussion.

I don't know. Misjudgment was definitely used by using a simulated format of the NAS, but Seitz continues to support the basic petition and he did work for the NAS at one time. Furthermore, signatories of petitions are notoriously difficult to verify, but irregularities don't preclude the majority of signers from being valid engineers or scientists. Overall, the petition was probably accurate in assessing catastrophic heating as a myth. Around that particular time, the global warming alarmists were running around like chickens with their heads cut off screaming "the sky is falling".

MichelleHeart
10-10-2010, 02:57 AM
Art Robinson on Public Education:

Public education (tax-financed socialism) has become the most widespread and devastating form of child abuse and racism in the United States.

Moreover, people who have been cut off at the knees by public education are so mentally handicapped that they cannot be responsible custodians of the energy technology base or other advanced accomplishments of our civilization.

These ignorant people vote, and their votes are beginning to destroy our way of life.

Can this problem be corrected? Yes. Can it be corrected by improving the public schools? No – only by abolishing them.
:cool:

Stary Hickory
10-10-2010, 07:54 AM
Art Robinson on Public Education:

:cool:

Ah a man after my own heart.....I feel 100% this way.

jkr
10-10-2010, 08:49 AM
he ate "her" alive!

AdamT
10-10-2010, 09:31 AM
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johngr
10-10-2010, 10:08 AM
he ate "her" alive!

Just because she kick-starts her strap-ons doesn't make her any less of a woman.

economics102
10-10-2010, 12:12 PM
As impressive as this is, a more effective line in response to her attempt to sound reasonable that she was simply asking questions about things he wrote, would be to say:

"You know how we can know that you're just trying to smear me? If you were genuinely interested in having a discussion on some randomly plucked article out of thousands I wrote 15 years ago -- since you clearly took time to prepare for this interview and do research -- if you were merely interested in discussing one of these papers and not trying to play "gotcha," you would have taken 30 seconds to let me know what papers you wanted to discuss so I could re-familiarize myself with them before the interview. That's what you would do if your desire to discuss and "get to know" me was sincere. But you are not sincere. You're a snake."

(maybe leave out that last line :D)

lester1/2jr
10-10-2010, 01:49 PM
he teaches his kids by letting them educate themselves? huh?

ibaghdadi
10-10-2010, 02:05 PM
If I had any respect for Rachel Maddow I lost it after watching this clip.

But you must notice that Art Robinson was in fact defensive going into the interview, expecting the worst. I believe he could have "pwn'd" her in a different way without so much of a confrontation.

Because these kinds of confrontations are in fact cathartic for us in the liberty movement but don't do much to convince or convert people on the other side, or even people stuck on the fence.

ibaghdadi
10-10-2010, 02:08 PM
Art Robinson on Public Education:
:cool:
Notice that for liberals, saying that public education must be abolished is as "crazy" as denying AIDS, or perhaps denying the holocaust for what it matters.

Also notice that the "mainstream" is shifting on this particular topic...

Long live John Taylor Gatto!

Austrian Econ Disciple
10-10-2010, 04:01 PM
he teaches his kids by letting them educate themselves? huh?

You should lookup John Holt :D

heavenlyboy34
10-10-2010, 04:04 PM
Art Robinson on Public Education:

:cool:

That quote is pure awesome-ness. :cool: