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Anti Federalist
10-04-2010, 08:44 PM
So, she's in the juvenile lock up for "making false police reports" in a story that started roughly five years ago.

(FFS people, this is why you never, EVER talk to cops. I'm sure she didn't just waltz in and make out a phony report, I'm almost positive this is the charge for "lying" under questioning)

While in jail, awaiting sentencing, she gets raped by a "counselor", aka prison guard.

She gets sentenced to a year in jail.

The rapist gets probation.



Teen gets 12-month sentence for minor offense - and thug gets probation for raping her

15-year-old Ashley had no inkling of what was to come on the day in 2005 when she was in Manhattan Family Court on a minor charge.

"You want to believe everybody's good, everybody wants to help you," she told me last week.

A hulking juvenile counselor named Tony Simmons led her in handcuffs from the girls holding area to the elevator.

She expected Tyson, as Simmons was called, to bring her up to the courtroom where she was scheduled to be sentenced for filing a false police report.

Instead, the elevator descended to the basement. The 42-year-old counselor pulled down her pants and raped her with calm, practiced precision that made him all the more terrifying.

"He knew exactly what he was doing," Ashley said. "Everything."

When he was done, Simmons pulled her pants back up and the elevator ascended to the courtroom. He raised an extended index finger to his lips in a mute command for her to say nothing.

"I was very scared," Ashley said. "I was terrified. He was a very large man."

Just moments after being violated, Ashley was seated next to her mother and before the judge. She was too shocked and terrified to report the attack.

"I knew I was just raped. I knew it wasn't supposed to happen," she recalled. "I didn't think anybody would believe me."

She kept silent as she was found to be a juvenile delinquent and sentenced to 12 months. She says her only crime was initially reporting to police she did not know who had jumped and cut her on the way to school.

Simmons continued to prey on teenagers in his custody until 2008, when a 15-year-old girl came forward to say he had sodomized her behind a locker in the girls holding area, which he stocked with condoms and cookies. Investigators believe the assaults go back a decade to the rape of a 13-year-old in the holding area.

"Just the tip of the iceberg," Assistant District Attorney Amir Vonsover said in 2008, when Simmons was indicted for three sex assaults.

On Sept. 27, Simmons appeared in court and pleaded guilty to raping Ashley and sexually assaulting two other teens.

He received probation.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/10/03/2010-10-03_raped_by_judge_and_justice_system.html#ixzz11Rr n6c6R

RedStripe
10-04-2010, 08:46 PM
Teen gets 12-month sentence for minor offense - and thug gets probation for raping her

5-year-old Ashley had no inkling of what was to come on the day in 2005 when she was in Manhattan Family Court on a minor charge.

"You want to believe everybody's good, everybody wants to help you," she told me last week.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/10/03/2010-10-03_raped_by_judge_and_justice_system.html#ixzz11Rr n6c6R

Copy/paste fail. Uh, I feel sick.

Vessol
10-04-2010, 08:46 PM
God that's disgusting.

Anti Federalist
10-04-2010, 08:46 PM
Copy/paste fail. Uh, I feel sick.

Ugh, dammit

Sorry, fixed.

Cowlesy
10-04-2010, 08:50 PM
What do you even say to something like this?

It's a shame this happened in Manhattan, where some asshole judge sentences him to probation. They should make him spend 10 minutes in a room with her Dad.

RedStripe
10-04-2010, 08:51 PM
Ugh, dammit

Sorry, fixed.

Not your fault, just bad coincidence. I was *relieved* when I realized she was 15 rather than 5. Still, this is fucking disgusting. Government is a joke.

Anti Federalist
10-04-2010, 08:54 PM
Not your fault, just bad coincidence. I was *relieved* when I realized she was 15 rather than 5. Still, this is fucking disgusting. Government is a joke.

It won't be too much longer before 5 year old kids are in jail.

Then it will just be matter of time before the sick fucks that prey on them know where they are.

Kregisen
10-04-2010, 11:41 PM
Remember kids, you can rape as many young girls as you want, just don't smoke marijuana! That's evil!

squarepusher
10-05-2010, 12:16 AM
related courtroom folly ...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101004/ap_on_re_us/us_wisconsin_prosecutor_sexting

Philhelm
10-05-2010, 12:27 AM
No comment on this story, other than to say that my rage defies all reason...

Fozz
10-05-2010, 12:33 AM
This is racism.

There is no other way to explain it.

Kotin
10-05-2010, 12:33 AM
Dont know what to say.... fuck the government and fuck the police feels about right though...

Live_Free_Or_Die
10-05-2010, 01:51 AM
So who is with me?

Philhelm
10-05-2010, 02:02 AM
So who is with me?

Me...

WaterWine41
10-05-2010, 02:13 AM
So who is with me?

You have my sword...

squarepusher
10-05-2010, 02:14 AM
You have my sword...

and you have my magic...

CCTelander
10-05-2010, 03:10 AM
Business as usual here in Police State Amerika. Just government doing what it does best.

Bman
10-05-2010, 03:53 AM
Forced rape is one of those area's I strongly advocate a death penalty.

KCIndy
10-05-2010, 06:55 AM
Unbelievable... absolutely un-freakin' believable.

That poor kid.

Did anyone else read through to the end, for the rest of the story?



While pondering Simmons' probation for the courthouse rape the day she got 12 months, Ashley notes that she actually served nearly three years.

She is not of the streets and that made her the target of kids who were. And, as the shock of the rape turned to anger, she often talked back to counselors.

"You say something, they throw you on the floor; 60 days, 90 days, 120 days added to your sentence," she said.

She was already an orphan and she had lost her adoptive parents as well by the time she was released. She nevertheless kept on track, getting a perfect score on her GED exam and enrolling in a professional program at a prestigious university.

teacherone
10-05-2010, 07:01 AM
US: 1 in 10 Children in Juvenile Facilities Report Sexual Abuse by Staff
Justice Department Should Issue Prison Rape Standards

The widespread sexual abuse of children in juvenile facilities shows that public officials either aren’t paying attention or can’t be bothered to do the right thing.

Jamie Fellner, senior counsel for the US Program at Human Rights Watch
(New York) - New government data suggesting high levels of sexual abuse of confined youth in the United States should galvanize the Department of Justice to swiftly issue national standards to end prison rape, Human Rights Watch said today.

According to the first National Survey of Youth in Custody, released today by the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics, 1 in 10 youth in state juvenile facilities and large non-state facilities reported sexual victimization by staff in the previous twelve months. Another 2.6 percent reported sexual victimization at the hands of other youth. Youth who are not heterosexual are at particular risk: 1 in 5 reported sexual abuse by staff or other youth. In the very worst facilities, 20 to more than 30 percent of all youth reported abuse.

http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/01/07/us-1-10-children-juvenile-facilities-report-sexual-abuse-staff

sick prison nation locks up kids and molests them.

jbrace
10-05-2010, 08:01 AM
Forced rape is one of those area's I strongly advocate a death penalty.

I agree.

teacherone
10-05-2010, 08:03 AM
i'm cool with unforced rape myself...

angelatc
10-05-2010, 08:07 AM
What do you even say to something like this?

It's a shame this happened in Manhattan, where some asshole judge sentences him to probation. They should make him spend 10 minutes in a room with her Dad.

You have to read the whole article. I cried.

She wasn't a child of the streets, but her parents died, and she ended up in a rough neighborhood where she was a target for the natives.

She went to juvie only because she wouldn't tell the cops who beat her up.

Sentenced to one year, she ended up having 3 because she turned into a bitter cynical smart ass who mouthed off to the counselors, probably because of the rape.

While she was in juvie, her adoptive parents died.

So she doesn't have a Dad.

Brooklyn Red Leg
10-05-2010, 08:44 AM
The Wergild and/or Bride Price for this OUGHT to be rather large. He violated her and as such SHOULD have to pay restitution in one form or another (I'm okay with Indentured Servitude personally). As it is, he'll simply go to another state and become an employee of the Prison-Industrial Complex somewhere else.

johngr
10-05-2010, 08:45 AM
i'm cool with unforced rape myself...

Have you been raping statues again?

Soca Taliban
10-05-2010, 08:48 AM
Unbelievable!!!!!!!!! :mad:
If that was my daughter or relative, I'd probably end up in jail, because I'd go after the judge, rapist, and prosecutor.

Baptist
10-05-2010, 08:51 AM
Tony Simmons (http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6534999)

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/wabc/cms_exf_2007/news/local/6535022_600x338.jpg

Icymudpuppy
10-05-2010, 08:54 AM
Where's Dexter when you need him?

pcosmar
10-05-2010, 08:57 AM
Apparently the parents don't own a gun.

:(

MelissaWV
10-05-2010, 09:35 AM
Tony Simmons (http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6534999)

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/wabc/cms_exf_2007/news/local/6535022_600x338.jpg

I have no idea why so many people look a bit surprised in their mugshots.

KCIndy
10-05-2010, 09:42 AM
Apparently the parents don't own a gun.

:(


She was/is an orphan. She had no one to look out for her. :mad:

Pericles
10-05-2010, 09:43 AM
Apparently the parents don't own a gun.

:(
Odds are against it in NYC - travel to Texas would be bad for the perp's health - just sayin'.

Philhelm
10-05-2010, 10:03 AM
So we can add the raping of our nation's children to our list of grievances against the government...

pcosmar
10-05-2010, 10:31 AM
She was/is an orphan. She had no one to look out for her. :mad:

Apparently not when it initially happened,

Just moments after being violated, Ashley was seated next to her mother and before the judge. She was too shocked and terrified to report the attack.
Perhaps by the time the case was heard,,
Or there are discrepancies in the story.

Still disgusting. and unfortunately not rare.
:(

pcosmar
10-05-2010, 10:33 AM
So we can add the raping of our nation's children to our list of grievances against the government...

That is one of the disgusting legacies of MK-Ultra.

Already on my list.
:mad:

KCIndy
10-05-2010, 10:40 AM
Apparently not when it initially happened,

Perhaps by the time the case was heard,,
Or there are discrepancies in the story.

Still disgusting. and unfortunately not rare.
:(


The story was very poorly written. Looks like something out of a freshman journalism class... but I digress with my grumpy critique.

I'm guessing - guessing here - that the "mother" at the trial was actually the foster mother.

This is from the second page of the article:


While pondering Simmons' probation for the courthouse rape the day she got 12 months, Ashley notes that she actually served nearly three years.

She is not of the streets and that made her the target of kids who were. And, as the shock of the rape turned to anger, she often talked back to counselors.

"You say something, they throw you on the floor; 60 days, 90 days, 120 days added to your sentence," she said.

She was already an orphan and she had lost her adoptive parents as well by the time she was released. She nevertheless kept on track, getting a perfect score on her GED exam and enrolling in a professional program at a prestigious university.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like she was from a suburban/rural area, probably middle class, lost her parents, got adopted into an "urban" environment, ran into this mess, and by the time she got out of prison on the trumped up charges, she had lost her adoptive parents as well....

I know that's a lot of assumptions, but that's the picture I'm seeing here. It could definitely use a follow up story with more info.

Very very sad, no matter what the circumstances... :(

Kylie
10-05-2010, 11:10 AM
This is insane. The system totally ruined this childs life.


If I were a child, I would be willing to fight to the death not to be taken into custody by any government official. This is end result of trusting .gov.


I don't think I could feel any worse, or more full of rage. This story needs to be cross-posted everywhere.

Anti Federalist
10-05-2010, 11:13 AM
Dont know what to say.... fuck the government and fuck the police feels about right though...

Oh, so you're one of those radical leftists who describe themselves as a libertarian but are really nothing but an America Hating Commie?

;)

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=263163

Kotin
10-05-2010, 11:16 AM
Oh, so you're one of those radical leftists who describe themselves as a libertarian but are really nothing but an America Hating Commie?

;)

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=263163


That's me.

KurtBoyer25L
10-05-2010, 11:47 AM
This story illuminates how the government has helped destroy standards of sexual morality. By bowing to religious & pharmaceutical interests and making the consent, motivation, choices and financial well-being of anyone under age X completely nil, ignored & unspoken in a legal context, they have actually abolished, legally, the qualitative difference between a violent rape and consensual sex. The "real" crime, according to our society and current law, is that this evil screwjob touched a 15 year old woman who is the property of her father or her parents or (of course) of the State. The facts that he traumatized & tortured her, that she didn't want to do it & was threatened with her death...are secondary.

In fact it may be argued that our society now wishes to punish sex as the most heinous and evil of all wrongs. Read the comments about a murderer, sentenced to life in prison, or a violent rape/killer of an adult woman on death row. People generally seem to find these sentences adequate & fair. But read the comments about any guy who, consensually & peacefully, runs away with the head JV cheerleader from a white/wealthy high school and the comments are more disturbing. "Send the bastard to jail forever, rape him every day and tear out his eyes and dump vinegar in the sockets, then execute him!" Very rarely do people point out the cruelty or hypocrisy of such statements, and sex criminals who are in prison for nonviolent acts *are* raped, tortured, and killed, far more often than murderers are. And how many of us harbor such pure hatred and bloodlust against warmongering, genocidal politicians? Sex has become a greater crime than killing, or starting wars.

Persons gulity of these sick, cruel, horrible rapes such as our buddy in this thread are aided in their escape through laws that make my first date with my girlfriend, who was under 18 at the time, qualitatively the same crime as the violent rape of a minor. Despite all the hatred, fear & taboo we are still compelled to keep some fairness, some common sense in our laws, but even that becomes perverted. Raping an orphan is "safer" for the violent/coercive rapist than raping the aforementioned property-of-her-father. Raping a black girl is also less likely to bring about severe punishment. Because our laws have to bend SO much to allow for exceptions to be made for common sense -- and for racist/religious superstition -- it's now possible for the violent rapist of a minor to get off with probation. he is seen legally much the same as a guy who dated a 15 year old orphan. And that's wrong. If we made *violence* our worst possible crime, instead of sex, our friend would be in prison for a very long time, for his cruel violence and forcible rape of an innocent girl. No violent sex offender should benefit from laws designed to keep R. Kelly out of prison while appeasing our legions of superstitious hypocrites in charge.

MelissaWV
10-05-2010, 04:45 PM
Um?

Anti Federalist
10-05-2010, 05:03 PM
Um?

Yes?

lucius
10-06-2010, 03:40 AM
ice cold from behind in the neck for the raper of my daughter...hope dad has the stones...

squarepusher
10-06-2010, 03:46 AM
This story illuminates how the government has helped destroy standards of sexual morality. By bowing to religious & pharmaceutical interests and making the consent, motivation, choices and financial well-being of anyone under age X completely nil, ignored & unspoken in a legal context, they have actually abolished, legally, the qualitative difference between a violent rape and consensual sex. The "real" crime, according to our society and current law, is that this evil screwjob touched a 15 year old woman who is the property of her father or her parents or (of course) of the State. The facts that he traumatized & tortured her, that she didn't want to do it & was threatened with her death...are secondary.

In fact it may be argued that our society now wishes to punish sex as the most heinous and evil of all wrongs. Read the comments about a murderer, sentenced to life in prison, or a violent rape/killer of an adult woman on death row. People generally seem to find these sentences adequate & fair. But read the comments about any guy who, consensually & peacefully, runs away with the head JV cheerleader from a white/wealthy high school and the comments are more disturbing. "Send the bastard to jail forever, rape him every day and tear out his eyes and dump vinegar in the sockets, then execute him!" Very rarely do people point out the cruelty or hypocrisy of such statements, and sex criminals who are in prison for nonviolent acts *are* raped, tortured, and killed, far more often than murderers are. And how many of us harbor such pure hatred and bloodlust against warmongering, genocidal politicians? Sex has become a greater crime than killing, or starting wars.

Persons gulity of these sick, cruel, horrible rapes such as our buddy in this thread are aided in their escape through laws that make my first date with my girlfriend, who was under 18 at the time, qualitatively the same crime as the violent rape of a minor. Despite all the hatred, fear & taboo we are still compelled to keep some fairness, some common sense in our laws, but even that becomes perverted. Raping an orphan is "safer" for the violent/coercive rapist than raping the aforementioned property-of-her-father. Raping a black girl is also less likely to bring about severe punishment. Because our laws have to bend SO much to allow for exceptions to be made for common sense -- and for racist/religious superstition -- it's now possible for the violent rapist of a minor to get off with probation. he is seen legally much the same as a guy who dated a 15 year old orphan. And that's wrong. If we made *violence* our worst possible crime, instead of sex, our friend would be in prison for a very long time, for his cruel violence and forcible rape of an innocent girl. No violent sex offender should benefit from laws designed to keep R. Kelly out of prison while appeasing our legions of superstitious hypocrites in charge.

nice post man

MelissaWV
10-06-2010, 07:18 AM
Yes?

I must hang out in different circles than this poster, I guess:


"Send the bastard to jail forever, rape him every day and tear out his eyes and dump vinegar in the sockets, then execute him!"