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hugolp
10-04-2010, 06:36 AM
YouTube - Deregulated Roads: The Netherlands Experience (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs16TYCuR1k)

noxagol
10-04-2010, 07:07 AM
They have done this in a few spots in a town near where I live. At first, people I talked to that lived there didn't like it and nor did I. However, as time went on and I thought about it, I like it a lot better. I'm not sitting at a traffic light for 3 minutes waiting for it to turn green while there is no traffic coming at all. I can just go and go about my business. The longest I have waited was a minute once, and that was during particularly heavy traffic.

Fredom101
10-04-2010, 07:39 AM
Really cool video, thanks for posting! Now we have more fuel for the inevitable "what about the roads?" argument that everyone loves to throw out there so often. :)

Vessol
10-04-2010, 07:47 AM
Roads remind me of preschool. So many rules and signs that you have to pay attention to instead of focusing on the road. They treat drivers like children whom if it wasn't for all these signs utter chaos would reign.

noxagol
10-04-2010, 07:51 AM
One sign they really need to improve is street signs. They need to be BIGGER. They are small and hard to read before you are right on top of them, even with my better than perfect vision. Often times going the speed limit is too fast to read them in time, and stop without stopping too fast and getting rear ended by the guy behind you.

Vessol
10-04-2010, 08:00 AM
In a private road system, the market would chose find out what is more efficient. Bigger signs? Less signs? More?

NYgs23
10-04-2010, 08:10 AM
I love to bring this stuff up whenever some statist says, "Well, if you want to deregulate everything, do you want to get rid of traffic lights too???!"

Fredom101
10-04-2010, 08:20 AM
I love to bring this stuff up whenever some statist says, "Well, if you want to deregulate everything, do you want to get rid of traffic lights too???!"

There may be places in a free society where traffic lights DO make sense, but that decision would not be left up to some centralized bureaucracy, it would be driven by the market. The right system would be implemented far more often than in today's one-size-fits-all road system.

hugolp
10-04-2010, 08:21 AM
Really cool video, thanks for posting! Now we have more fuel for the inevitable "what about the roads?" argument that everyone loves to throw out there so often. :)

And its Europe. You know the socialist deregulators... oh, wait :D

Nate
10-04-2010, 08:29 AM
Here is an article on this from April.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer213.html

Just one more example of how spontaneous order arises out of chaos when people are allowed to act freely. Society does not need centralized planners running every little bit of our daily lives. They do not have the knowledge or the capability to organize society better than society can organize itself.

Austrian Econ Disciple
10-04-2010, 08:31 AM
here is an article on this from april.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer213.html

just one more example of how spontaneous order arises out of chaos when people are allowed to act freely. Society does not need centralized planners running every little bit of our any part of our daily lives. They do not have the knowledge or the capability to organize society better than society can organize itself.

ftfy.

Nate
10-04-2010, 08:34 AM
ftfy.

thanx :)

Icymudpuppy
10-04-2010, 09:07 AM
I like Traffic circles much better than traditional intersections. No waiting, easy to spot the intersection from a distance, all traffic from all directions slows approaching the very visible obstacle, no-one waits very long or at all if they time their approach properly.

heavenlyboy34
10-04-2010, 09:10 AM
Nice thread, thanks. :)