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AuH20
10-01-2010, 09:13 PM
On one hand, they want the democrats out. But they're extremely worried that elements of the tea party are too stubborn to go along with their agenda. The Tea Party is like a rabid dog off it's chain, in that it's a varied amalgamation of disgruntled, hungry folks. The Neos and their powerful lobbying blocs aren't enamored by that unpredictability.

http://townhall.com/columnists/PatBuchanan/2010/10/01/tea_party_vs_war_party/page/full/


The neocons are nervous the Tea Party may not sign up to soldier on for the empire. Writing in The Washington Post, Danielle Pletka and Thomas Donnelly of AEI have sniffed out the unmistakable scent of "isolationism" among Tea Party favorites.

They are warning that the old right and Tea Party might unite in a "combination of Ebenezer Scrooge and George McGovern, withdrawing from the world to a countinghouse America."

Sorry, but the old neocon name-calling won't cut it this time.

After Iraq and Afghanistan, the American people are not going to give the establishment and War Party a free hand in foreign policy. Every patriot will do what is necessary and pay what is needed to defend his country. But national security is one thing, empire security another.

Why should Americans, 65 years after World War II, be defending rich Europeans from a Soviet Union that has been dead for 20 years, so those same Europeans can cut their defense budgets to protect their social safety nets?

President Eisenhower told JFK to bring the troops home from Europe, or the Europeans would wind up as permanent wards.

Was Ike a closet isolationist?

Almost $14 trillion in debt today, we borrow from Europe to defend Europe, borrow from Japan to defend Japan, borrow from the Gulf Arabs to defend the Gulf Arabs. And we borrow from Beijing to send foreign aid to African regimes whose U.N. delegations laughed and applauded as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told the General Assembly that 9/11 was an inside job by the U.S. government. Have we lost all sense of self-respect?

Stary Hickory
10-01-2010, 09:50 PM
The GOP is not as neocon as people like to think. There are some Neocons in the party, but most folks are not clinging to "empire" or anything of the sort. It is a mix of nationalist pride and misconceptions about what is needed for national security.

Ironically foreign entanglements and preemptive war make us less secure. To the extent support for the wars has waned it is a result of people realizing this. Iraq is viewed as an idiotic war and a waste. So in reality the hardcore Neocon GOP will have to search long and hard for allies.

cindy25
10-01-2010, 09:52 PM
there is a natural streak of isolationism in the Republican party, but one terrorist attack-real or false flag-and the drums beat again for the empire

Stary Hickory
10-01-2010, 09:56 PM
there is a natural streak of isolationism in the Republican party, but one terrorist attack-real or false flag-and the drums beat again for the empire

Yeap this is true. Republicans elected a G.W. Bush who was criticizing "nation building" and pointless war, and arrogant foreign policy. They lost their marbles after 9/11 and slipped into the nationalistic pride....we are number one....malaise that simply precluded any rational analysis for a proper course of action.

I really payed no attention UNTIL we went into Iraq then I was like WTF? But to tell you the truth invading Afghanistan was kinda stupid too. We had a problem with a handful of individuals not the entire country. Now we DO have a problem with the entire country, hell most of the Middle East even.

bowen161
10-01-2010, 10:05 PM
considering the tea party, in general, has been hijacked by big goverment conservatives like the Bill Kristol puppet Sarah Palin they really shouldn't worry. This election, though we may get some good people in like BJ, Rand(if he is truly just playing politics to win), and John Dennis, your average Tea Party candidate is no different than the average GW Bush loving neocon who still believe that Reagan was the best conservative ever.

While there is a Ron Paul element, it, like his presidential run, is a fringe movement of truly principled people, which the TEA party is not.

Don't believe me? Ask you local tea party group the five questions listed here http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/65697.html don't be surprised when they look at you like an extremist.

youngbuck
10-01-2010, 10:09 PM
considering the tea party, in general, has been hijacked by big goverment conservatives like the Bill Kristol puppet Sarah Palin they really shouldn't worry. This election, though we may get some good people in like BJ, Rand(if he is truly just playing politics to win), and John Dennis, your average Tea Party candidate is no different than the average GW Bush loving neocon who still believe that Reagan was the best conservative ever.

While there is a Ron Paul element, it, like his presidential run, is a fringe movement of truly principled people, which the TEA party is not.

Don't believe me? Ask you local tea party group the five questions listed here http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/65697.html (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/65697.html) don't be surprised when they look at you like an extremist.

What's up Bowen?:D