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Agorism
10-01-2010, 06:20 PM
"where the old fools’ game of merely corralling grassroots conservatives into the Republican Party is suffering from a severe shortage of fools." -Jack Hunter

Link to article (http://townhall.com/columnists/PatBuchanan/2010/10/01/tea_party_vs_war_party)


The neocons are nervous the Tea Party may not sign up to soldier on for the empire. Writing in The Washington Post, Danielle Pletka and Thomas Donnelly of AEI have sniffed out the unmistakable scent of “isolationism” among Tea Party favorites.

They are warning that the old right and Tea Party might unite in a “combination of Ebenezer Scrooge and George McGovern, withdrawing from the world to a countinghouse America.”

Sorry, but the old neocon name-calling won’t cut it this time.

After Iraq and Afghanistan, the American people are not going to give the establishment and War Party a free hand in foreign policy. Every patriot will do what is necessary and pay what is needed to defend his country. But national security is one thing, empire security another.


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Sola_Fide
10-01-2010, 06:22 PM
Awesome!

Agorism
10-01-2010, 10:10 PM
this

Cowlesy
10-01-2010, 10:32 PM
I find it refreshing that PJB is publishing at least a few times per week and getting his message out.

Anti Federalist
10-02-2010, 12:02 AM
I find it refreshing that PJB is publishing at least a few times per week and getting his message out.

Hear hear!


Why should Americans, 65 years after World War II, be defending rich Europeans from a Soviet Union that has been dead for 20 years, so those same Europeans can cut their defense budgets to protect their social safety nets?

President Eisenhower told JFK to bring the troops home from Europe, or the Europeans would wind up as permanent wards.

Was Ike a closet isolationist?

Almost $14 trillion in debt today, we borrow from Europe to defend Europe, borrow from Japan to defend Japan, borrow from the Gulf Arabs to defend the Gulf Arabs. And we borrow from Beijing to send foreign aid to African regimes whose U.N. delegations laughed and applauded as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told the General Assembly that 9/11 was an inside job by the U.S. government. Have we lost all sense of self-respect?

In his 1969 "Silent Majority" address, Richard Nixon said that, after Vietnam, America would provide Asian allies with weapons and assistance in defending their freedom. But Americans would no longer do the fighting.

Why are U.S. soldiers still on the DMZ, 57 years after the Korean War? Why are Marines still on Okinawa, 65 years after Gen. MacArthur took the surrender? Cannot Korea and Japan, prosperous and populous, conscript the soldiers for their own defense?

National security, yes. Empire security we can no longer afford.

The only problem with Sen. McGovern's "Come home, America!" slogan was the timing.

Stary Hickory
10-02-2010, 07:50 AM
Neocon trickery is all but used up. They for all intents and purposes are neutered right now. War with Iran is not even a remote possibility. And truthfully it's becoming obvious that the hardcore neocons are not very significant in number or authority. It was all the secondary Neocon followers who towed the line for them...they are not doing it anymore.

Southron
10-02-2010, 08:33 AM
"Splendid isolation":)

I am forever indebted to Buchanan for his book "A Republic, Not an Empire" for bringing me over to the non-interventionist side.

jkr
10-02-2010, 09:00 AM
i HEART pat

acptulsa
10-02-2010, 10:09 AM
'Was Ike a closet isolationist?'

Ike was a product of his time. Obviously he believed that if you had to intervene, do it. Does the name 'Normandy Beach' mean anything to anyone? But he just as obviously was not willing to run about intervening willy-nilly.


i HEART pat

Sometimes I wonder who first pointed a camera at him, and whether that person regrets it to this day?

lester1/2jr
10-02-2010, 10:31 AM
pretty much so the only sensible commentator on tv of any stature and the best columnist out there. Maybe the most honest person in America

acptulsa
10-02-2010, 10:39 AM
Nothing like going off the thread topic to call out a moderator, but hey, Cowlesy, is that your new banhammer? Funny, it looks hammerless to me...

Cowlesy
10-02-2010, 10:45 AM
Nothing like going off the thread topic to call out a moderator, but hey, Cowlesy, is that your new banhammer? Funny, it looks hammerless to me...

define "that." I am unclear as to what you are referring.

acptulsa
10-02-2010, 10:51 AM
define "that." I am unclear as to what you are referring.

The little toy in your new avatar. Sorry, I wasn't too clear, was I?

Cowlesy
10-02-2010, 10:55 AM
The little toy in your new avatar. Sorry, I wasn't too clear, was I?

That's a picture of Walter Sobchak from the movie "The Big Lebowski." I find his character hilarious in the movie, which is why I use his picture as an avatar. No, a .45 is not a ban-hammer :P

anaconda
10-02-2010, 02:52 PM
Great statement in the OP that Ron Paul should start saying every time he is on TV.

National security is one thing, empire security another.

anaconda
10-02-2010, 03:10 PM
Paul/Buchanan 2012!