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Anti Federalist
09-25-2010, 02:05 PM
It Is Official: The US Is a Police State

by Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts283.html

On September 24, Jason Ditz reported on Antiwar.com that “the FBI is confirming that this morning they began a number of raids against the homes of antiwar activists in Illinois, Minneapolis, Michigan, and North Carolina, claiming that they are ‘seeking evidence relating to activities concerning the material support of terrorism.’”

Now we know what Homeland Security (sic) secretary Janet Napolitano meant when she said on September 10: “The old view that ‘if we fight the terrorists abroad, we won’t have to fight them here’ is just that – the old view.” The new view, Napolitano said, is “to counter violent extremism right here at home.”

“Violent extremism” is one of those undefined police state terms that will mean whatever the government wants it to mean. In this morning’s FBI’s foray into the homes of American citizens of conscience, it means antiwar activists, whose activities are equated with “the material support of terrorism,” just as conservatives equated Vietnam era anti-war protesters with giving material support to communism.

Anti-war activist Mick Kelly whose home was raided, sees the FBI raids as harassment to intimidate those who organize war protests. I wonder if Kelly is underestimating the threat. The FBI’s own words clearly indicate that the federal police agency and the judges who signed the warrants do not regard antiwar protesters as Americans exercising their Constitutional rights, but as unpatriotic elements offering material support to terrorism.

“Material support” is another of those undefined police state terms. In this context the term means that Americans who fail to believe their government’s lies and instead protest its policies, are supporting their government’s declared enemies and, thus, are not exercising their civil liberties but committing treason.

As this initial FBI foray is a softening up move to get the public accustomed to the idea that the real terrorists are their fellow citizens here at home, Kelly will get off this time. But next time the FBI will find emails on his computer from a “terrorist group” set up by the CIA that will incriminate him. Under the practices put in place by the Bush and Obama regimes, and approved by corrupt federal judges, protesters who have been compromised by fake terrorist groups can be declared “enemy combatants” and sent off to Egypt, Poland, or some other corrupt American puppet state – Canada perhaps – to be tortured until confession is forthcoming that antiwar protesters and, indeed, every critic of the US government, are on Osama bin Laden’s payroll.

Almost every Republican and conservative and, indeed, the majority of Americans will fall for this, only to find, later, that it is subversive to complain that their Social Security was cut in the interest of the war against Iran or some other demonized entity, or that they couldn’t have a Medicare operation because the wars in Central Asia and South America required the money.

Americans are the most gullible people who ever existed. They tend to support the government instead of the Constitution, and almost every Republican and conservative regards civil liberty as a coddling device that encourages criminals and terrorists.

The US media, highly concentrated in violation of the American principle of a diverse and independent media, will lend its support to the witch hunts that will close down all protests and independent thought in the US over the next few years. As the Nazi leader Joseph Goebbels said, “think of the press as a great keyboard on which the Government can play.”

An American Police State was inevitable once Americans let “their” government get away with 9/11. Americans are too gullible, too uneducated, and too jingoistic to remain a free people. As another Nazi leader Herman Goering said, “ The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. Tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace-makers for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger.”

This is precisely what the Bush and Obama regimes have done. America, as people of my generation knew it, no longer exists.

newyearsrevolution08
09-25-2010, 02:08 PM
The worse it gets the better it will end up for us. We will get her back and remove ALL who tried over the years to destroy her. THEY will be the terrorists and will all be held accountable for what they have done.

free1
09-26-2010, 05:48 AM
Remember in November....

JohnEngland
09-26-2010, 06:10 AM
Remember in November....

Not only remember, but tell others too - especially those who don't typically vote. Look at the latest Rand Paul poll. It's FAR too close.

ninepointfive
09-26-2010, 11:08 AM
I've been signed up for a pakistani news google group completely in arabic, by someone other than myself.

This happened very soon after I sent out an e-mail titled "Liberty or Death' Wherein I ask that no one obey unconstitutional orders from the government, and it is this government who is the domestic terrorist. I sent that out to nearly 400 people. Whom a few may be government moles or spies.


Other times, I've been cc'd on some Muslim hate e-mails, wherein I sensed pure evil. Many people had their e-mails cc'd that day. Supposedly hacked. These were mostly all people who participate in the liberty movement. I just received another e-mail from that person with a video link, wherein inside of the link is a token so it can be tracked.

THIS SHIT IS TRUE!

BuddyRey
09-27-2010, 03:45 AM
Please, somebody tell me the men who participated in these raids had to procure warrants and/or probable cause first.

Vessol
09-27-2010, 12:42 PM
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silentshout
09-27-2010, 02:33 PM
The worse it gets the better it will end up for us. We will get her back and remove ALL who tried over the years to destroy her. THEY will be the terrorists and will all be held accountable for what they have done.

I hope so :(

fj45lvr
09-27-2010, 03:19 PM
"An American Police State was inevitable once Americans let “their” government get away with 9/11. Americans are too gullible, too uneducated, and too jingoistic to remain a free people."


Wow I guess this guy believes something else happened on 9/11 than the "official" story?? Or do you think he means that the gov. got away with measures SINCE 9/11??

I totally agree that Americans are too soft/uneducated/etc. to get their freedom back.

pcosmar
09-27-2010, 03:28 PM
The US Police State was inevitable when Prohibition was passed. It has done nothing but grow ever since.
:(

HOLLYWOOD
09-27-2010, 03:34 PM
FBI has it wrong... here let me correct it for the "STATE"

Extremist FBI
Establishment FBI
Terrorist FBI
Radical FBI
Fanatical FBI
Trannical FBI

Same goes for their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th branches of the Federal Government

Remember, to anyone who supports the POLICE STATE...


"
Every invasion of individual rights happens with the eager support of people acting in the sincere and thoroughly mistaken confidence that what they permit the state to do to others will never be done to themselves."
LOL... Glen Beck today is calling MSM Main Stream Media, the 4th branch of government whata populist user.

MelissaCato
09-27-2010, 03:41 PM
I can't believe this is happening to us. Are we still allowed to have Jesus Christ in the kitchen or a cow in the barn ? Gezzzzz How about a Nitros canister in a 69 Camaro ? LOL

Why does it always feel like we need an act of God to save this country from ruin? Or is it just me ? :cool:

QueenB4Liberty
09-27-2010, 07:50 PM
Not only remember, but tell others too - especially those who don't typically vote. Look at the latest Rand Paul poll. It's FAR too close.

What? :( I thought he was really ahead.

MelissaCato
09-28-2010, 12:47 AM
bumpity bumpp BUMP !!

No comments ? WTF !!

Philhelm
09-28-2010, 08:07 AM
There is no doubt that the U.S. is quickly becoming a police state. While I'd be inclined to say that we are already there, we are still in the transition phase, in my opinion, and there will be many more grievances to be redressed in the future.

1. Militarization of the police: Not only the weapons and equipment, but the civilian versus non-civilian mentality; rather than people to be protected, we are viewed as enemy combatants. Of course, the recruitment of former soldiers and veterans only bolsters this aspect. This is a clever way to sidestep posse comitatus.

2. Increase of no-knock raids: Rather than dealing with suspects in a rational manner, the no-knock raid is becoming more and more commonplace, and often results with unneccesary violence.

3. Warrantless searches: Where do I begin? Cars, houses, tracking devices on vehicles, searching email, etc.

4. Sureveillance: Cameras everywhere, some of which issue tickets to offending citizens.

5. Glorification of police in media: Most of the cop shows on television all share the same traits. Usually the hero committs illegal acts of physical abuse or unlawful searches upon the bad guy. In addition, Constitutional rights are only invoked by the guilty.

6. Fines used as a source of revenue: Rather than responding to real problems, the police search for trouble, mostly for the sake of generating revenue from the citizenry.

7. Assassination of U.S. citizens: No comment necessary.

8. Torture.

I could go on and on, but there's no sense in preaching to the choir. However, the more these things are mentioned, the better.