Should I give up if I can't find 100 people on the internet to pledge $8 this week?

[ronpaul4pres]

Should I give up if I can't find 100 people on the internet to pledge $8 this week?

http://www.pledgebank.com/8-for-rp-0ct20

If I can't find 100 people to pledge $8, then why would anyone believe they'll get 100,000 people to donate $100?

[mannycp]

just pledge. come on people.

[McDermit]

personally, all the pledge shit just annoys me and I'd be happy to see it end.

But whatever floats your boat.0

[ronpaul4pres]

personally, all the pledge shit just annoys me and I'd be happy to see it end.

But whatever floats your boat.0

I agree that some particular pledges are annoying in that they are completely unrealistic and wasted energy. However, mine is not in that category.

There's a valid phsychological reason for using pledges. You can read it here:

http://www.pledgebank.com/faq


But, beyond that, it's a quick way to organize and show support for a common goal. If you'd like to see pledges go away completely, I'm very open to suggestions for a replacement way to organize and show support for a common goal (like a weekly donation).

[ronpaul4pres]

All, thank you for your support!

[kylejack]

When the British asked him if he was ready to surrender the ship he commanded:

"I have not yet begun to fight!"
-John Paul Jones

[ronpaul4pres]

When the British asked him if he was ready to surrender the ship he commanded:

"I have not yet begun to fight!"
-John Paul Jones

But, 59 have not yet begun to pledge! What can I do?

[UCFGavin]

i've donated to these without actually signing up on pledgebank.

[ronpaul4pres]

i've donated to these without actually signing up on pledgebank.

Thank you for your contributions!

Please do keep in mind that 50% or more of the people who pledge haven't actually donated. Simply signing up and helping us reach our modest goal would offer encouragement for them to give their money to Ron Paul.

This pledge is for $800 total. So, just by signing up it's like you giving over $400 to Ron Paul without having to dig into your own pocket.

[McDermit]

the pledges are seriously useless, no exceptions.

[ronpaul4pres]

the pledges are seriously useless, no exceptions.

OK, but regardless of your beliefs or disbeliefs in pledges, do you have an answer to my question about a site to organize a group of people to a common modest goal in support of the larger $12 million?

[ronpaul4pres]

Thank you, again, everyone who has pledged!

We're still 5 short of reaching the all important half-way mark, and we're in desperate need of your pledge, too.

Please do keep in mind that 50% or more of the people who pledge haven't actually donated. Simply signing up and helping us reach our modest goal would offer encouragement for those who pledged to actually donate their money to Ron Paul.

This pledge is for $800 total. So, just by signing up it's like you giving over $400 to Ron Paul without you having to give $400 - only $8.

[davidhperry]

Should I give up if I can't find 100 people on the internet to pledge $8 this week?

No.

[ronpaul4pres]

Thank you for your encouragement and your pledge!

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[ronpaul4pres]

We as Ron Paul supporters need 3 more people to pledge tonight...

[Taco John]

So many whiners about these pledges. I'm not going to donate $8 per week, because I know that most of that will get eaten up in processing fees. I will donate $100 on November 5th, because I think it would be awesome to see a spontaneous burst in order to see how high we can get it.


Any donation is a good donation. But there's no need to whine about it and cast aspersions on the effort of another pledge drive.

[Dan Klaus]

I will donate $100 on November 5th

Concur and will do the same..

..and I'll probably donate the $8 bucks as well because I like ronpaul4prez attitude and I want RP to win...

Now why doesn't my name show up on the huffingtonpost donation tracking site?

http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=Klaus&fname=&search=Search

[ronpaul4pres]

So many whiners about these pledges. I'm not going to donate $8 per week, because I know that most of that will get eaten up in processing fees. I will donate $100 on November 5th, because I think it would be awesome to see a spontaneous burst in order to see how high we can get it.

Any donation is a good donation. But there's no need to whine about it and cast aspersions on the effort of another pledge drive.

lol. You're casting aspersions yourself by grossly exaggerating the processing fees! They'd be less than $0.50. That's certainly far less than "most of that [$8]"! But, I agree that, say, a $25 donation would have less taken away in percentage than $8.

Surely, any donation is a good donation, but trying to get 100,000 people to give $100 is kind of silly when the campaign doesn't yet have 100,000 donors in total for all donation sizes. My message is to be realistic and work to an achievable goal.

Thank you to all who have pledged!

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[stevedasbach]

personally, all the pledge shit just annoys me and I'd be happy to see it end.

But whatever floats your boat.0

Same here.

[Sematary]

Thank you, again, everyone who has pledged!

We're still 5 short of reaching the all important half-way mark, and we're in desperate need of your pledge, too.

Please do keep in mind that 50% or more of the people who pledge haven't actually donated. Simply signing up and helping us reach our modest goal would offer encouragement for those who pledged to actually donate their money to Ron Paul.

This pledge is for $800 total. So, just by signing up it's like you giving over $400 to Ron Paul without you having to give $400 - only $8.

Can this be done anytime? Like right now?

[ronpaul4pres]

Same here.

OK, I will happily take all criticism, but some reasoning will be nice. Regardless of your beliefs or disbeliefs in pledges, can you tell if if there is a site to organize a group of people to a common modest goal in support of the larger $12 million? This site must contain a way to sign up and show support that can be viewable in a list of people with a number of signers.

[Birdlady]

These pledges don't do anything. If you are begging and pleading with people to sign the pledge that are already on a RP forum, then you aren't helping to get new blood to donate. You are preaching to the choir.

Also these pledges are only about "feeling good" . All it does is make YOU feel good and it really doesn't do anything like I just stated. When I see these, "go make a pledgebank blah blah blah", I seriously roll my eyes now. :rolleyes: It's as ridiculous as those petition websites.

[ronpaul4pres]

Can this be done anytime? Like right now?

You can pledge now.

This pledge ends this Saturday. We've had a good drive yesterday, but we need your support to hit 100.

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[ronpaul4pres]

These pledges don't do anything. If you are begging and pleading with people to sign the pledge that are already on a RP forum, then you aren't helping to get new blood to donate. You are preaching to the choir.

Also these pledges are only about "feeling good" . All it does is make YOU feel good and it really doesn't do anything like I just stated. When I see these, "go make a pledgebank blah blah blah", I seriously roll my eyes now. :rolleyes: It's as ridiculous as those petition websites.

Not exactly. New people are joining these forums every day. This pledge is small enough to be able to get a high percentage of new blood.

My particular goal is to get out this message. When someone posts about his/her donation, you'll frequently read about how much he/she donated as an individual. My message is we shouldn't be focusing on "how much *I* donated" but "how much *we* donated." My message is that the existing base of supporters can meet this great $12 million goal. We need to spread this message to others who don't realize that $8/week is the difference between meeting the Q4 goal or not. Wouldn't YOU feel good about that?

[Sematary]

You can pledge now.

This pledge ends this Saturday. We've had a good drive yesterday, but we need your support to hit 100.

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done

[ronpaul4pres]

done

Thank you!

And, I dugg your rally - I hope it's a great success!

[DianeDL]

Any help is help! Keep up doin what you can. I donated yesterday on the $17.76 direct and even though it is not much...it is something and every little bit helps! Even if your 100 goal is not met.... this is a GOOD thing.

[ronpaul4pres]

Any help is help! Keep up doin what you can. I donated yesterday on the $17.76 direct and even though it is not much...it is something and every little bit helps! Even if your 100 goal is not met.... this is a GOOD thing.

Thank you so much for the encouragement.

However, I'm trying to get out this message, and I'm seeing how difficult it is. I wonder if I need to do a better job at explaining it? Just like one person can't donate $12 million, 100 people can't donate $12 million. My pledge isn't so much about the $800 as it is the message. So, not even getting 100 people would be discouraging.

I'd like to see a good base of people understand this message and believe in this message. I'd like to see this message spread. This fundraising goal is achievable, and it doesn't take fantastic individual sums to get us there!

For all those who want to challenge/review my math, please do! Here's the web link: http://ronpauldonations.blogspot.com. I'll happily take all questions/criticisms and would gladly answer.

My message is: This all starts with "you" but ends with "us." Let's do this together!

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"By concord little things grow great, by discord the greatest come to nothing." - Roger Williams

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[Elwar]

100 pledges is difficult. I had a pledge for 100 people to pledge to write a letter to the editor that took about 2 months to complete. It's more difficult than it looks.

My best success...sending a message out to about 50 MySpace friends a day asking them to sign the pledge.

[chowda]

I signed up and added you to my chipin page: http://ronpaulgraphs.com/chipin.html

I also have something to say about the "uselessness" of the pledge banks... they may not be useful in getting "new people" to donate money but I think they serve a great purpose in that they add to the sense of community and provide yet another set of small achievable goals that can provide a feeling that we're making progress which keeps people involved and excited about this movement. Anyway... I think looking at these efforts as a purely financial mechanism is missing a big part of why they are good. This is not to say that they're aren't some silly pledges out there... a single pledge effort attempting to raise multiple millions is pretty much doomed to failure... but a pledge like this thread is about is A Good Thing.... and those of you rolling eyes and disparaging the well intended actions of excited and committed community members are being counter productive, IMO...

dan

[DeadheadForPaul]

A lot of us donate but forget to do the pledges or put in the codes for Students4Paul, etc.

Many people do not use the forum on an hourly basis and miss threads or are unaware of them. I honestly have never signed up for any pledges or matches and give money all the time as does my friend. Many active RP supporter just dont remember or find the pledges

[Eli]

those pledgebanks are retarded. Donate if you want to donate, vote for him in you want to vote for him. Wave a sign if you want to wave a sign. You could spend hours a day filling out pledge forms and creating them. It does NO GOOD!

[Elwar]

those pledgebanks are retarded. Donate if you want to donate, vote for him in you want to vote for him. Wave a sign if you want to wave a sign. You could spend hours a day filling out pledge forms and creating them. It does NO GOOD!

Actually, I donated my first $100 because of a pledge. It felt like I was doing more by helping to get the campaign $10k so early in the campaign.

Donating once helps get people used to it and they won't be so shy about doing it again.

[ronpaul4pres]

those pledgebanks are retarded. Donate if you want to donate, vote for him in you want to vote for him. Wave a sign if you want to wave a sign. You could spend hours a day filling out pledge forms and creating them. It does NO GOOD!

We need a system to coordinate a group of people to work towards a common goal. Why do soldiers in the military march in step? Why do hornets attack in a group? We must work together to achieve this Q4 fundraising goal. Personally, I don't care if it's pledgebank or not. But, I find pledgebank is great for this purpose. I'd be happy to use another system if there is a better one.

What's so wrong about pledgebank? What did that system ever do to you? Now, there are unrealistic pledges (like a pledge for 1,000,000 people to donate $100 when there were less than 75K donors for Ron Paul in Q3). Unrealistic pledges may be counter-productive. But, don't let some pledges speak for all pledges.

If you want to "attack" something, here's my math: http://ronpauldonations.blogspot.com/

If you can disprove the $8/week message, then by all means, please do so!

[ronpaul4pres]

I signed up and added you to my chipin page: http://ronpaulgraphs.com/chipin.html

I also have something to say about the "uselessness" of the pledge banks... they may not be useful in getting "new people" to donate money but I think they serve a great purpose in that they add to the sense of community and provide yet another set of small achievable goals that can provide a feeling that we're making progress which keeps people involved and excited about this movement. Anyway... I think looking at these efforts as a purely financial mechanism is missing a big part of why they are good. This is not to say that they're aren't some silly pledges out there... a single pledge effort attempting to raise multiple millions is pretty much doomed to failure... but a pledge like this thread is about is A Good Thing.... and those of you rolling eyes and disparaging the well intended actions of excited and committed community members are being counter productive, IMO...

dan

Thank you, Dan!

[DrNoZone]

But, beyond that, it's a quick way to organize and show support for a common goal. If you'd like to see pledges go away completely, I'm very open to suggestions for a replacement way to organize and show support for a common goal (like a weekly donation).

Here's a suggestion: the RP campaign's goal of $12 million for Q4! All of the work is already done for you. They even put up a nifty graphic on their website that updates in real time!

[RP08]

You could probably make up some of this by the bunch of people who matched Razmear's thread a couple days ago. That was for $17.76, which well-covers your $8.00

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=25879

[ronpaul4pres]

Here's a suggestion: the RP campaign's goal of $12 million for Q4! All of the work is already done for you. They even put up a nifty graphic on their website that updates in real time!

Does the Lady Liberty graphic:

- Tell us how to reach the goal or just present a goal?
- Allow a group of people to coordinate their donations or just donate in random?
- Encourage people to give consistent, affordable donations?

No. Lady Liberty servers her purpose, but there's certainly room for another system to fill those extremely important roles.

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[DahuiHeeNalu]

i can next week i done maxed out this week :(

[ronpaul4pres]

i can next week i done maxed out this week :(

No problem! You can donate next week.

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[ronpaul4pres]

You could probably make up some of this by the bunch of people who matched Razmear's thread a couple days ago. That was for $17.76, which well-covers your $8.00

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=25879

Good idea, thank you! I noticed some interest, and it would be nice if eveyrone would!

I like this idea of donating $17.76 as well. I think we should join forces.

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[ronpaul4pres]

Thank you, again, to everyone who has joined the pledge. If you haven't joined, we still need your help.

http://www.pledgebank.com/8-for-rp-0ct20

50% or more of the people who pledge don't actually donate unless the pledge is successful. Simply signing up and helping us reach our modest goal would offer encouragement for them to donate their money to Ron Paul.

This pledge is for $800 total. So, just by signing up to help us reach our goal it's like you giving over $400 to Ron Paul without having to dig into your own pocket.



Another thought: Who wants to combine efforts with me to encourage weekly donations?

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[ronpaul4pres]

We only need 8 more to join!

http://www.pledgebank.com/8-for-rp-0ct20