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Matt Collins
09-22-2010, 02:10 PM
An election year agenda being unveiled by House Republicans Thursday will include language affirming the party's support of "traditional marriage" and its opposition to abortion rights, House GOP sources tell POLITICO.



The document, to be unveiled at a hardware store in Sterling, Va., will include "a commitment to life and a commitment to marriage," one source said.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42547.html#ixzz10I6jOwpp (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42547.html#ixzz10I6jOwpp)

Austrian Econ Disciple
09-22-2010, 02:13 PM
Goddamnit. Leave your personal views at home. I hate when people intertwine their personal views, and their political views. If you don't like gays, fine. If you don't like marijuana, fine. If you don't like such and such, fine. Stop making it goddamn illegal though, when it neither hurts, harms, aggresses, or defrauds anyone. Stupid idiots still won't learn that the power to impose their bullshit allows the other side to impose theirs. Good grief.

phill4paul
09-22-2010, 02:20 PM
No. No. No.
It is the economy stupid.
If the GOP doesn't concentrate on how their way is the best way to improve Americans lives through lower taxes/smaller government then they are screwed.
GOP will come to mean the Ghost Of a Party if they continue down this line.

PatriotOne
09-22-2010, 02:24 PM
The usual bullshit. Look over here at right hand of marriage, abortion, our X-tian values, while we plunder your health and wealth.

Southron
09-22-2010, 02:52 PM
Has anyone found what the 20 items on the list are?

Pennsylvania
09-22-2010, 02:53 PM
just another nail in the coffin

Lucille
09-22-2010, 03:33 PM
I knew it.

The new SoContract with America will turn independents off, and the idiotic GOP is going to lose all the gains they've made (but like I said (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2900127&postcount=12), maybe that's the plan).

Is the GOP trying to snatch defeat from of the jaws of victory? (http://thenextright.com/stephen-gordon/is-the-gop-trying-to-snatch-defeat-from-of-the-jaws-of-victory)

Cornyn: GOP's stance on social issues alienating independents (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/09/cornyn_gops_stance_on_social_i.html)

Sola_Fide
09-22-2010, 03:39 PM
Ughhhh...


Why are conservatives so statist?

AuH2O
09-22-2010, 03:39 PM
We met with folks House staff recently, and they were making very clear that "this isn't a comprehensive platform." They were clearly trying to prepare somebody for disappointment, and the implication was that it would be social cons. All of the planks I've been told about from leadership staff are economic or common-sense (e.g. Read the Bills and Show Constitutional Basis).

oyarde
09-22-2010, 03:45 PM
Social issues are states issues . So , there should really only be constitutional , economic issues in a plan for congress .

phill4paul
09-22-2010, 03:46 PM
Social issues are states issues . So , there should really only be constitutional , economic issues in a plan for congress .

^^^This.

Theocrat
09-22-2010, 03:52 PM
Yeah. The GOP will have a "commitment to life" in its platform, except for the hundreds of lives that have been killed overseas in these unjust and selfish wars. And how many babies have the GOP saved from the abortion mills since Roe v. Wade? Their promises to preserve life are about as reliable as Obama sending all the troops home.

phill4paul
09-22-2010, 03:58 PM
Yeah. The GOP will have a "commitment to life" in its platform, except for the hundreds of lives that have been killed overseas in these unjust and selfish wars. And how many babies have the GOP saved from the abortion mills since Roe v. Wade? Their promises to preserve life are about as reliable as Obama sending all the troops home.

Theocrat you and I have had our tete-a-tetes before but there is not a single point in your post that I can disagree with.

nate895
09-22-2010, 04:01 PM
Yeah. The GOP will have a "commitment to life" in its platform, except for the hundreds of lives that have been killed overseas in these unjust and selfish wars. And how many babies have the GOP saved from the abortion mills since Roe v. Wade? Their promises to preserve life are about as reliable as Obama sending all the troops home.

Sad, but true. I have to agree with Peter Hitchens on this issue (he is, of course, referring to the Tories rather than the GOP). He thinks that voting for the Conservatives (GOP in our case) is out of mere "tribal loyalty," as he calls its, and that they need to be replaced with a traditional conservative party.

libertybrewcity
09-22-2010, 04:03 PM
What is there deal? Why is the Republican party so stupid? I just don't understand. Social issues should be last on their list. How are they going to overturn a supreme court ruling anyways? If they go down this path, they fail and we have a repeat of 2006.

silentshout
09-22-2010, 04:04 PM
Bleh..typical. They should stick to economic issues and they could capture so many more votes. The social issues should either be gone or be left to the states.

oyarde
09-22-2010, 04:04 PM
What is there deal? Why is the Republican party so stupid? I just don't understand. Social issues should be last on their list. How are they going to overturn a supreme court ruling anyways? If they go down this path, they fail and we have a repeat of 2006.

I do not think they will go down that path .

silentshout
09-22-2010, 04:06 PM
I knew it.

The new SoContract with America will turn independents off, and the idiotic GOP is going to lose all the gains they've made (but like I said (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2900127&postcount=12), maybe that's the plan).

Is the GOP trying to snatch defeat from of the jaws of victory? (http://thenextright.com/stephen-gordon/is-the-gop-trying-to-snatch-defeat-from-of-the-jaws-of-victory)

Cornyn: GOP's stance on social issues alienating independents (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/09/cornyn_gops_stance_on_social_i.html)

Yep. So many indies are fiscal conservatives, social liberals or moderates and just don't want social issues decided on a federal level. I guess i will be voting libertarian.

dude58677
09-22-2010, 04:12 PM
Then John Boehner is finished in 2012. Let's get a candidate running against him. Incumbents have been losing to outsiders like the way Trey Greyson lost to Rand Paul. Let's just keep doing what we are doing. No time to get down over this.

When you fall down, you get back up.