Foreign 'versions' of Ron Paul?

[RileyE104]

For a lack of better word, are there any foreign versions of Ron Paul out there, besides Dan Hannan?

If so, how can we come together as a movement?

Like an "International Campaign For Liberty"...?

We should be trying to capitalize off of all the negative feelings toward 'the State' in all areas of the world.

What better way than to expand Campaign for Liberty into other countries?

[nate895]

The UKIP, which is one of the larger minor parties in the UK, is fairly libertarian. There are not many conservatives in the American sense outside the United States. In fact, American Conservatives are considered a branch of liberalism by most European conservatives. and the alternative to European conservatives is socialism.

[wormyguy]

Douglas Carswell and a couple others in the British parliament, Maxime Bernier in Canada, probably some others.

[Mattsa]

For a lack of better word, are there any foreign versions of Ron Paul out there, besides Dan Hannan?

If so, how can we come together as a movement?

Like an "International Campaign For Liberty"...?

We should be trying to capitalize off of all the negative feelings toward 'the State' in all areas of the world.

What better way than to expand Campaign for Liberty into other countries?

I don't get all misty eyed about Dan Hannan

I saw him speaking at a political speech in Brighton and I wasn't that impressed frankly

[Mattsa]

The UKIP, which is one of the larger minor parties in the UK, is fairly libertarian. There are not many conservatives in the American sense outside the United States. In fact, American Conservatives are considered a branch of liberalism by most European conservatives. and the alternative to European conservatives is socialism.

The problem in the UK is that the ruling elites have everything so sewn up.

UKIP are treated with derision by the BBC. Nigel Farage is always made to look like a buffoon.

If UKIP became a serious threat to the status quo, they would subvert and destroy it before it became too popular.

They've done the same thing to the BNP already

[nate895]

I don't get all misty eyed about Dan Hannan

I saw him speaking at a political speech in Brighton and I wasn't that impressed frankly

What didn't impress you?

[JohnEngland]

These are the pro-Austrian, Liberty-loving UK politicians that I'm aware of:

Daniel Hannan - http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/author/danielhannan/

Douglas Carswell - http://www.talkcarswell.com/

Steve Baker - http://www.stevebaker.info/where-i-stand/

Peter Lilley - http://www.peterlilley.co.uk/text.aspx?id=2

There is a fairly new organisation called Progressive Conservatives (not to be confused with the American progressives, who are socialist/fascist) - http://progressive-conservatives.org/web/

There's also the Cobden Centre (The British version of the Mises Institute) - http://www.cobdencentre.org/

Our liberty movement is not as developed as the American one, but we have something to build on :)

[nate895]

They've done the same thing to the BNP already

You mean the anti-immigration party? The BNP isn't exactly an example of a liberty-loving group of individuals. Furthermore, you need to get over media attacks if you're a real conservative. They're going to happen.

[Mattsa]

What didn't impress you?

The elephant in the room is the monetary system

I've never heard Dan Hannan speak forthrightly about the money power in the same way as Ron Paul does.

The fact is, if he dared, he would mysteriously die in a car accident or contract a mystery disease.

It's a fear based system like any totalitarian state. It's just more subtle.

The British state murdered Dr Kelly and Robin Cook, probably John Smith and Princess Diana too.

I don't understand why Dan Hannan stays in the Conservative Party either. They are demonstrably not conservative in any manner whatsoever.

Politics is a charade. It's a filthy nest of vipers, parasitic scum put there to make you believe you have choices.

There ARE NO CHOICES.

[Mattsa]

You mean the anti-immigration party? The BNP isn't exactly an example of a liberty-loving group of individuals. Furthermore, you need to get over media attacks if you're a real conservative. They're going to happen.

Oh, I was never a supporter of the BNP. They are a socialist party but they are nationalists and nationalism isn't part of the plan for the global elite. They hate nationalism and people having any form of self determination. That's why they were so keen to wipe it out.

They are turning the UK into a muslim state........deliberately

[JohnEngland]

The problem in the UK is that the ruling elites have everything so sewn up.

This.

[nate895]

The problem in the UK is that the ruling elites have everything so sewn up.

I do not who you mean by the "ruling elites" of the UK, but I think part of the problem in the UK is the imbalance of political power in the House of Commons as opposed to the House of Lords and the Monarchy. When the Lords and Monarch had some power, as in they actually had to agree with what the Commons proposed in order for a law to be passed, the socialist tendencies of the commons was kept in check. The Lords used to provide resistance to the radicalism of the Commons. Now they cannot provide any resistance at all. The Golden Age of liberty in the British Isles, in the 19th Century, was due to a balance of power between the two Houses of Parliament.

[Imperial]

Otto Guevera of the Movimiento Libertario in Costa Rica. It is true they are not as libertarian as they used to be, purging some of the radicals in the party in 2005 and starting to accept public funding. Nevertheless, in uber-socialist Costa Rica the party and Guevera are a breath of fresh air.

(PS: Guevera polled 2nd place in the last Costa Rican presidential race, and the party has slowly increased its representation in the Costa Rican legislature. I think last I heard he made a power-sharing deal with the incumbent party in exchange for getting to reform a couple of state agencies, but that they have been a bit of a roadblock for the incumbent party sometimes. However, I read the article months ago in a Spanish newspaper so take that last sentence with a grain of salt).

[Agorism]

UK is all cities though.