How is it Ron Paul Supporters can support O'Donnell?......She's Pro War

[Xchange]

I don't do alot of posting on this site that often...mainly lurk
But have been engaged in the campaign since '07....still am


How in the Duck can anyone support this pro-war candidate?.....especially Liberty minded folks?


@ the very least she pro-war...not to mention she supports Federally Funded education

I'm lost.....

[GunnyFreedom]

I don't think anybody here REALLY supports O'Donnell as much as we are pleased that Castle got pillaged. As far as incumbents go, a 1st termer is way easier to take down than someone who's been there forever. It also indicates a strong anti-establishment bent to the electorate, which will help us going forward. It's a clear indication of things moving in our direction, even though she herself is not actually worthy of our support.

[Cap]

Good post Gunny.

[oyarde]

I don't think anybody here REALLY supports O'Donnell as much as we are pleased that Castle got pillaged. As far as incumbents go, a 1st termer is way easier to take down than someone who's been there forever. It also indicates a strong anti-establishment bent to the electorate, which will help us going forward. It's a clear indication of things moving in our direction, even though she herself is not actually worthy of our support.

That and the fact that the alternatives of Castle and Coons would probably have alot to do with it .

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

It is the same phony balognes who supported Scott Brown. They call it "politicking". I call it being an unprincipled miser. Grow a goddamn spine! :D

[MRoCkEd]

^^ +1

[Athan]

Yeah, I'm for the throw the bums out brigade. I am glad Castle got his ass handed to him. I am not pro-war. I'm anti-establishment.

[pcosmar]

Who supports her?

Most just dislike who she replaced. (known evil v unknown evil)
Some are just watching the show.
I doubt that many support her.

[GunnyFreedom]

It is the same phony balognes who supported Scott Brown. They call it "politicking". I call it being an unprincipled miser. Grow a goddamn spine! :D

I don't recall much support on here for Scott Brown. I know I don't support either Brown OR O'Donnell, but I am still glad that O'Donnell won for reasons far, far removed from any thought that "O'Donnell will make a good Senator" :puke:

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There was a Libertarian in the Race

http://www.jimrash.com/



I have many times heard Glenn Beck even Sean Hannity refer to themselves Libertarians

It's disgusting they have not pimped this cat alittle

[oyarde]

Who supports her?

Most just dislike who she replaced. (known evil v unknown evil)
Some are just watching the show.
I doubt that many support her.

I think the Gunny and Pcosmar have it summed up .

[low preference guy]

There was a Libertarian in the Race

http://www.jimrash.com/


I hope he runs as a Republican next time. It's the only way to not waste time.

[GunnyFreedom]

There was a Libertarian in the Race

http://www.jimrash.com/ (http://www.jimrash.com/)



I have many times heard Glenn Beck even Sean Hannity refer to themselves Libertarians

It's disgusting they have not pimped this cat alittle

There STILL IS a Libertarian in the race. They just had their primary election, not their general. If I lived there, I'd probably vote for the LP in this race in the general.

[Matt Collins]

Where has she stated that she is pro war?

[JK/SEA]

Yes, at this point is a win for the liberty movement if we can just get ESTABLISHED NEOCONS out, and just continue pounding on them as needed.

In Washington State, i'm wrestling with the fact i may have to vote for the NEOCON Dino Rossi, just to get the established Senator Murray out of there...sigh..

[runningdiz]

Rosie O'Donnell is not pro war she is very anti war. Why do you care if Ron Paul supporters support her?:cool::p

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ON FOREIGN POLICY

O’Donnell advocated military action against Iran. The AP reported, “Ms. O’Donnell was the only candidate, however, to assert that the U.S. should consider military action against Iran. ‘You can’t negotiate with the devil,’ said. [AP, 9/6/06]

O’Donnell warned China wants to ‘take over America.’ China has a “carefully thought out and strategic plan to take over America. [AP, 9/6/06]

O’Donnell explained why there were never WMD found in Iraq by comparing the war to raiding a ‘crack house.’ “One of the biggest lies that’s going on is that we had no reason to go in. … If we were going to invade a crack house, and we said, ‘We’re going to invade this crack house. We’re going to raid this crack house.’ For six months, we gave them warning. And then you walk in and you go, ‘Hey, there’s no crack. There’s only these little pipes. Now, there’s no crack with the little pipes, so we can’t assume that these pipes are used for crack.’” [Hardball, 6/20/03]
http://thinkprogress.org/christine-odonnell-record/



Christine O`Donnell on War & Peace


Strategy to bring troops home from Iraq: it’s called victory
Most importantly, Christine has a strategy for bringing our troops home from Iraq: It’s called victory. Past mistakes should not deter our need to stabilize Iraq so we can get our troops home. We can succeed in the future, but we must accompany our efforts with the honor and respect we’ve earned as a people. We cannot leave on the enemy’s terms. We must leave on our terms.


Consider military action against Iran
The three Republican candidates agreed that Iran, which Western governments fear is intent on developing nuclear weapons and which has close ties to Shiite leaders in Iraq, has benefited from the war in Iraq. Ms. O’Donnell was the only candidate, however, to assert that the U.S. should consider military action against Iran. “You can’t negotiate with the devil,” said Ms. O’Donnell, who also asserted that China has a “carefully thought out and strategic plan to take over America.”
Source: Randall Chase, Associated Press, on NewsZap.com Sep 5, 2006

Stay in Iraq until its government is stable
All three [Republican Senate primary candidates] brandish conservative credentials. They agree taxes should not be raised. They think U.S. troops should stay in Iraq until its government is stable. And all have pledged not to serve more than two six-year terms.

http://archive.ontheissues.org/International/Christine_O%60Donnell_War_+_Peace.htm

[amy31416]

Where has she stated that she is pro war?


Security: Believes terrorism is an act of war requiring the full force of our intelligence and military resources rather than granting terrorists precious Constitutional rights and outsourcing our foreign policy to the U.N.

http://christine2010.com/why-christine/

[Southron]

Personally, I just don't like vitriol aimed at her.

I don't agree with Sarah Palin much either but I won't pile on like a lap dog for the media.

[GunnyFreedom]

Personally, I just don't like vitriol aimed at her.

I don't agree with Sarah Palin much either but I won't pile on like a lap dog for the media.


Yeah, good point. It's a victory against the f'd up media as well.

[specsaregood]

Yeah, good point. It's a victory against the f'd up media as well.

And Karl Rove.
Plus 17/20 on the C4L quiz is something that can be built on.

[0zzy]

<Rand Paul is all my focus.

[parocks]

I don't know what other people think, but maybe she's better than the Marxist, Coons?

Good enough?

Could you give me a link to where she says she's "pro-war"?
Or anything like that?

Thanks




I don't do alot of posting on this site that often...mainly lurk
But have been engaged in the campaign since '07....still am


How in the Duck can anyone support this pro-war candidate?.....especially Liberty minded folks?


@ the very least she pro-war...not to mention she supports Federally Funded education

I'm lost.....

[oyarde]

I don't know what other people think, but maybe she's better than the Marxist, Coons?

Good enough?

Could you give me a link to where she says she's "pro-war"?
Or anything like that?

Thanks

Yes , I am at the marxist limit .

[parocks]

Rand, Angle and Lee got 20/20 on the C4L.

O'Donnell got 17/20 on the C4L.

Pretty good, not great, better than Coons, who didn't even bother to fill out the form.





I don't think anybody here REALLY supports O'Donnell as much as we are pleased that Castle got pillaged. As far as incumbents go, a 1st termer is way easier to take down than someone who's been there forever. It also indicates a strong anti-establishment bent to the electorate, which will help us going forward. It's a clear indication of things moving in our direction, even though she herself is not actually worthy of our support.

[GunnyFreedom]

Rand, Angle and Lee got 20/20 on the C4L.

O'Donnell got 17/20 on the C4L.

Pretty good, not great, better than Coons, who didn't even bother to fill out the form.

Last I heard, she's pushing for another undeclared war but with Iran. You could get 19/20 but if you send us to war with Iran, I'll want no f'n part of that, thankyouverymuch.

I am, however, in favor of logjamming the socialists.

[parocks]

Strong National Defense is the same as Pro-War?

You're gonna find a lot of Republicans are in favor of strong national defense.

Where are Rand, Angle and Lee on this?

I guess the question is whether people want to marginalize themselves by only supporting their dream candidate, and not supporting someone who isn't identical on all particulars, even though that candidate is clearly superior to the Democrat.

It's up to the person.


http://christine2010.com/why-christine/

[parocks]

Last I heard, she's pushing for another undeclared war but with Iran. You could get 19/20 but if you send us to war with Iran, I'll want no f'n part of that, thankyouverymuch.

I am, however, in favor of logjamming the socialists.


I heard the Iran thing, you have a link to it? I tried to find it, didn't look too hard, but didn't find it.

I'm mostly on the lookout for any "Israel is special" foreign policy.

[GunnyFreedom]

Strong National Defense is the same as Pro-War?

You're gonna find a lot of Republicans are in favor of strong national defense.

Where are Rand, Angle and Lee on this?

I guess the question is whether people want to marginalize themselves by only supporting their dream candidate, and not supporting someone who isn't identical on all particulars, even though that candidate is clearly superior to the Democrat.

It's up to the person.

Publicly pushing for war with iran is the same thing as a strong national defense?


ON FOREIGN POLICY

O’Donnell advocated military action against Iran. The AP reported, “Ms. O’Donnell was the only candidate, however, to assert that the U.S. should consider military action against Iran. ‘You can’t negotiate with the devil,’ said. [AP, 9/6/06]

O’Donnell warned China wants to ‘take over America.’ China has a “carefully thought out and strategic plan to take over America. [AP, 9/6/06]

O’Donnell explained why there were never WMD found in Iraq by comparing the war to raiding a ‘crack house.’ “One of the biggest lies that’s going on is that we had no reason to go in. … If we were going to invade a crack house, and we said, ‘We’re going to invade this crack house. We’re going to raid this crack house.’ For six months, we gave them warning. And then you walk in and you go, ‘Hey, there’s no crack. There’s only these little pipes. Now, there’s no crack with the little pipes, so we can’t assume that these pipes are used for crack.’” [Hardball, 6/20/03]
http://thinkprogress.org/christine-odonnell-record/ (http://thinkprogress.org/christine-odonnell-record/)



Christine O`Donnell on War & Peace


Strategy to bring troops home from Iraq: it’s called victory
Most importantly, Christine has a strategy for bringing our troops home from Iraq: It’s called victory. Past mistakes should not deter our need to stabilize Iraq so we can get our troops home. We can succeed in the future, but we must accompany our efforts with the honor and respect we’ve earned as a people. We cannot leave on the enemy’s terms. We must leave on our terms.


Consider military action against Iran
The three Republican candidates agreed that Iran, which Western governments fear is intent on developing nuclear weapons and which has close ties to Shiite leaders in Iraq, has benefited from the war in Iraq. Ms. O’Donnell was the only candidate, however, to assert that the U.S. should consider military action against Iran. “You can’t negotiate with the devil,” said Ms. O’Donnell, who also asserted that China has a “carefully thought out and strategic plan to take over America.”
Source: Randall Chase, Associated Press, on NewsZap.com Sep 5, 2006

Stay in Iraq until its government is stable
All three [Republican Senate primary candidates] brandish conservative credentials. They agree taxes should not be raised. They think U.S. troops should stay in Iraq until its government is stable. And all have pledged not to serve more than two six-year terms.

http://archive.ontheissues.org/International/Christine_O%60Donnell_War_+_Peace.htm (http://archive.ontheissues.org/International/Christine_O%60Donnell_War_+_Peace.htm)

[silentshout]

I don't support O'Donnell.

[GunnyFreedom]

I heard the Iran thing, you have a link to it? I tried to find it, didn't look too hard, but didn't find it.

I'm mostly on the lookout for any "Israel is special" foreign policy.

yeah, there's some links above inside this thread. I quoted them for you in my last post above.

[Bman]

There's a difference between supporting and refusing to go on a tear blasting the woman.

What does anyone hope to accomplish by doing so at this point and time?

Great just give more ammo to those who want to label all of us as kooks, and help out Coons in the process. Talk about bitting off your nose to spite your face.

[parocks]

Disgusting? That they haven't talked about a little known Libertarian?


There was a Libertarian in the Race

http://www.jimrash.com/



I have many times heard Glenn Beck even Sean Hannity refer to themselves Libertarians

It's disgusting they have not pimped this cat alittle

[parocks]

I love this Christine chick I'm telling ya. Hardcore.

http://thinkprogress.org/christine-odonnell-record/

Great stuff there. I'm bookmarking this. I love it. She wails socon hardcore. And that's how I like my socons. We have to have em. They're usually whiny pussies. They usually do nothing to get their candidates elected in the primaries, and they complain when you don't put abortion in your tv ads. They don't actually want you do anything about it. Just alienate prochoice voters by talking about it after the primaries.

The only thing at all about Iran is one sentence "You don't negotiate with the devil" that she said 4 years ago. She has been on tv so so many times, and that's all they have on middle east?

Yes, that quote indicates warlike. But she was harsher on Britney Spears than Iran.

She hears a 9/11 truth message, she could come around. There isn't that much there on foreign policy, and remember, she was 100% "The Passion of the Christ"
You know what that means. Or could mean or should mean. She hears some facts, boom, she could be wailing hardcore, standing beside Ron.

She believes what she's heard on Iran, I suppose. But the specialness of Israel is not at the foundation of her belief system from what I've read.

Definitely thanks for that awesome quote page.

Adding: Read all those quotes. One thing is that she's hip. Familiar with this stuff. Doesn't like it. But is familiar with it.
You will not find a senator more capable of discussing popular culture.

Also, the bolded part does not actually describe what she says, more times than not.
For example. Advocate does not mean consider for one. Doesn't matter. She is so kick ass.




yeah, there's some links above inside this thread. I quoted them for you in my last post above.

[Brian4Liberty]

What important votes will come up in the next few years? How will she vote, vs. the other two main competitors, the RINO (no longer an option) and the Marxist?

Yes, there's a Libertarian in the General election, so there is a protest option.

[Dianne]

I don't think anybody here REALLY supports O'Donnell as much as we are pleased that Castle got pillaged. As far as incumbents go, a 1st termer is way easier to take down than someone who's been there forever. It also indicates a strong anti-establishment bent to the electorate, which will help us going forward. It's a clear indication of things moving in our direction, even though she herself is not actually worthy of our support.


Agreed... The mere fact that Hannity is promoting her is enough to send me packing.

[oyarde]

Agreed... The mere fact that Hannity is promoting her is enough to send me packing.

Hannity is going to support the person he believes to be the most fiscally conservative .

[james1906]

When these Tea Party people get elected, genuine or not, a message is being sent that govt is out of control. Electing them is a mandate against spending. Most importantly, Ron Paul single handedly made at least auditing the Fed a must on the agenda of any Tea Party candidate. If the Fed is reformed at worst, abolished at best, then Washington's way of spending will change forever, and this will force less spending everywhere.

[GunnyFreedom]

Agreed... The mere fact that Hannity is promoting her is enough to send me packing.

I dislike O'Donnell for very valid reasons, but c'mon, this argument is the same as those who argued against Ron Paul because Don Black supported him. Support or don't support a candidate based on their policy positions. Relying on picking out their supporters as reasons to dismiss them is one of the primary things that killed us in 2008 -- only pointing to Hannity is actually likely to HELP her! Should we throw Rand Paul under the bus too, because Sheera Palin likes him?

[parocks]

Agreed... The mere fact that Hannity is promoting her is enough to send me packing.

Bill Kristol
Charles Krauthammer
Gerson

the real neocons, have all attacked her.

[MozoVote]

It's easier to get a freshman out of office on the next election than to dynamite out an entrenched incumbent. If Castle was nominated and won, then he'd probably be there until he's 90. The grassroots has *some* leverage with O'Donnell at least.

But I agree there is not much "support" here. Mainly bemusement and snickering at the GOP's predicament.

[parocks]

I'm pretty much surprised at how many people here are supporting Christine compared to before the primary. (most people had the opinion of don't know don't care) and just after. People here are coming around to Christines side over the last 5 or 6 days.

I think they get it when all these neocons (the real ones, Bill Kristol included) attack her. Whatever it is that is "wrong" with her in their mind is right for her.


It's easier to get a freshman out of office on the next election than to dynamite out an entrenched incumbent. If Castle was nominated and won, then he'd probably be there until he's 90. The grassroots has *some* leverage with O'Donnell at least.

But I agree there is not much "support" here. Mainly bemusement and snickering at the GOP's predicament.

[cindy25]

senators have a very limited foreign policy role. and on domestic issues O'Donnell is ok.
Obama with a Republican congress is harmless; socialist judges would not be confirmed, spending not passed. He would have to concentrate on foreign affairs, and while he's no Ron Paul, he is also no John McCain.