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Matt Collins
09-20-2010, 12:48 PM
A shocking report at WND's "Taking America Back" conference in Miami, Fla., contends the sexual revolution of the 1960s and beyond was manufactured by a single pedophile with deep financial backing.

Dr. Judith Reisman, author of "Sexual Sabotage: How One Mad Scientist Unleashed a Plague of Corruption and Contagion on America," unveiled at the confab a hidden history of scandal and scientific fraud that she says convinced not only America's legal system but also its culture to unjustifiably embrace sexual deviancy.

Reisman explained how Dr. Alfred Kinsey, a scientific pioneer who was lauded in the 1950s for his research and who launched modern-day sexology, received his financial backing from the Rockefeller Foundation in 1941 and used it to twist science and law to fulfill his licentious agenda.

For example, Kinsey's landmark study from 1941-1945 claimed to describe the "normal" sexual practices of "everyday" Americans. Reisman contends, however, that Kinsey didn't have access to the majority of "normal" American men and women, who were engaged with World War II at the time, and so he used a tainted sample.

"Eighty-seven percent of his subjects," Reisman stated, "were sex addicts, homosexuals, criminals, rapists, prostitutes, pedophiles and prisoners."

SOURCE:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=204969

dannno
09-20-2010, 12:55 PM
I can't stand people who hate sex. Jebus, if you don't have a sex drive just stfu and ignore it or something. Very few people are "addicted" to sex, any more than the author is addicted to food.

Promontorium
09-20-2010, 12:57 PM
The old 'Hitler was a vegetarian' argument. Non sequitur is the oddly spelled term I believe applies. Sex wasn't invented in the 60s. Lies, government oppression, as well as puritanical absurdities ruled early America. Go back further, or deviate to non Euro cultures and things look very different.

erowe1
09-20-2010, 01:03 PM
A shocking report at WND's "Taking America Back" conference in Miami, Fla., contends the sexual revolution of the 1960s and beyond was manufactured by a single pedophile with deep financial backing.

Dr. Judith Reisman, author of "Sexual Sabotage: How One Mad Scientist Unleashed a Plague of Corruption and Contagion on America," unveiled at the confab a hidden history of scandal and scientific fraud that she says convinced not only America's legal system but also its culture to unjustifiably embrace sexual deviancy.

Reisman explained how Dr. Alfred Kinsey, a scientific pioneer who was lauded in the 1950s for his research and who launched modern-day sexology, received his financial backing from the Rockefeller Foundation in 1941 and used it to twist science and law to fulfill his licentious agenda.

For example, Kinsey's landmark study from 1941-1945 claimed to describe the "normal" sexual practices of "everyday" Americans. Reisman contends, however, that Kinsey didn't have access to the majority of "normal" American men and women, who were engaged with World War II at the time, and so he used a tainted sample.

"Eighty-seven percent of his subjects," Reisman stated, "were sex addicts, homosexuals, criminals, rapists, prostitutes, pedophiles and prisoners."

SOURCE:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=204969

Good article. Thanks.

Slutter McGee
09-20-2010, 01:06 PM
Seriously, why go after one of the few good things that came out of the sixties? sex.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

dannno
09-20-2010, 01:09 PM
Good article. Thanks.

It's not a "good article", it's a worthless pile of shit written by some hag who hates sex and all those who enjoy it.

Kludge
09-20-2010, 01:17 PM
The article's absolutely absurd. For them to use use "bias" as a derisive term is frustrating, but I do think there's a valid argument that pedophiles have benefited in the societal sexualization of very young people.

Sex sells, even to seven-year-olds. Bratz, tattoos, makeup, all sorts of rings... It's broadcasting "easy." What can you do about that - or should anything be done? Is the sexualization of children natural or created by the media? I can't answer - kids have always been sexualized while I've been alive. The article unfortunately seems to have a call to action that we alter laws, but I'm only interested in fixing society if need be -- The origins of laws are irrelevant - the real issue comes out that we need to discuss the morality of "statutory rape."

erowe1
09-20-2010, 01:20 PM
It's not a "good article", it's a worthless pile of shit written by some hag who hates sex and all those who enjoy it.

I didn't see any evidence of that. I wouldn't normally say that people who experiment with babies to see how many orgasms they can have as a good sample of "all those who enjoy sex." And I didn't see a single line in the article that was anti-sex.

dannno
09-20-2010, 01:25 PM
I wouldn't normally say that people who experiment with babies to see how many orgasms they can have as a good sample of "all those who enjoy sex."

Ya, that would be child abuse.

See the Hitler/vegetarian argument above.

erowe1
09-20-2010, 01:27 PM
Ya, that would be child abuse.

See the Hitler/vegetarian argument above.

That comment was an argument?

dannno
09-20-2010, 01:31 PM
That comment was an argument?

Ya, it was.

The point is that America was headed in that direction anyway. There were some 'mini' sexual revolutions in the decades before the 60s, it is a reaction to natural human instincts going against some weird puritanical stuff that was going on here for some reason.

Sure, there may have been some deviants that were put in charge to co-opt the vector, but it would have happened without them. I don't think it was 'engineered' by these people.

erowe1
09-20-2010, 01:33 PM
Ya, it was.

The point is that America was headed in that direction anyway. There were some 'mini' sexual revolutions in the decades before the 60s.

Sure, there may have been some deviants that were put in charge to co-opt the vector, but it would have happened without them.

You got all that out of the Hitler was a vegetarian comment?

Brian4Liberty
09-20-2010, 01:36 PM
In equally shocking news, it was revealed that Corporatism was engineered by a homosexual pedophile by the name of Horatio Alger.

dannno
09-20-2010, 01:40 PM
You got all that out of the Hitler was a vegetarian comment?

Maybe you should re-read the comment as it is several lines long.



In the pre-Kinsey period, the legal age of sexual consent was somewhere between 16 and 21 depending on the state


21?!?!?!? Are you FUCKING joking??

Peace&Freedom
09-20-2010, 01:41 PM
"Eighty-seven percent of his subjects," Reisman stated, "were sex addicts, homosexuals, criminals, rapists, prostitutes, pedophiles and prisoners."

That statement is either accurate or not. If accurate, then much of the "revolution" was academically legitimized by a fraudulent baseline sample. Pointing this out is not "hating sex," but showing that people distorted science in order to promote sexual immorality. If somebody points out that our food has toxic ingredients put in it, and people covered it up with distorted "science," does that make us hate food?

erowe1
09-20-2010, 01:42 PM
Maybe you should re-read the comment as it is several lines long.


I did. I still don't see how it makes the point you said.

Edit: Never mind. I see now that you edited the post I was replying to to make it look more like you really were teasing something out of that Hitler was a vegetarian one.

erowe1
09-20-2010, 01:43 PM
"Eighty-seven percent of his subjects," Reisman stated, "were sex addicts, homosexuals, criminals, rapists, prostitutes, pedophiles and prisoners."

That statement is either accurate or not. If accurate, then much of the "revolution" was academically legitimized by a fraudulent baseline sample. Pointing this out is not "hating sex," but showing that people distorted science in order to promote sexual immorality. If somebody points out that our food has toxic ingredients put in it, and people covered it up with distorted "science," does that make us hate food?

+1

dannno
09-20-2010, 01:43 PM
No-fault divorce, the decriminalization of adultery and even the decision by the American Psychiatric Association to no longer consider homosexuality a sexual disorder, Reisman said, are the result of using Kinsey data that was specifically manipulated to redefine "normal" and exaggerate deviant behavior.

This article is leading the reader to believe that 'sexual deviancy' should be illegal because it leads to 'social consequences'.

I have no problem with an article describing the history of Kinsey and some of the messed up things he did and how it affected the legal system, but to promote the absurdities laced throughout the article is completely insane.

Minuteman2012
09-20-2010, 01:43 PM
I can't stand people who hate sex. Jebus, if you don't have a sex drive just stfu and ignore it or something. Very few people are "addicted" to sex, any more than the author is addicted to food.

How can you be addicted to sex? How many times a day is too much?

dannno
09-20-2010, 01:45 PM
I did. I still don't see how it makes the point you said.

Just because Hitler was a vegetarian doesn't mean all vegetarians are mass murderers.

Just because this Kinsey guy promoted sexuality and was a bit messed up and abusive doesn't mean that all people who engage in consensual sexual activity outside of Christian marriage are abnormal or should be imprisoned.

dannno
09-20-2010, 01:46 PM
How can you be addicted to sex? How many times a day is too much?

14.

silentshout
09-20-2010, 01:50 PM
I can't stand people who hate sex. Jebus, if you don't have a sex drive just stfu and ignore it or something. Very few people are "addicted" to sex, any more than the author is addicted to food.

^^^

erowe1
09-20-2010, 01:51 PM
Just because Hitler was a vegetarian doesn't mean all vegetarians are mass murderers.

Just because this Kinsey guy promoted sexuality and was a bit messed up and abusive doesn't mean that all people who engage in consensual sexual activity outside of Christian marriage are abnormal or should be imprisoned.

Got it yet?

I get what you're saying, and I get how it does reflect the Hitler was a vegetarian comment better than what you previously said that meant.

But I don't see what it has to do with the article. Peace and Freedom's comment was spot on. If Kinsey's science was bad, that's worth writing an article about.

dannno
09-20-2010, 01:58 PM
If Kinsey's science was bad, that's worth writing an article about.

Ya, I agreed with that part in a previous post, but the article also has a condemning tone for some of the good things that came about from the sexual revolution, of which he played a role (imo, more minor than the article seems to insinuate as it was inevitable) such as lower the maximum consensual age of sex from 21 to 18, it is no longer a 'crime' to commit adultery, legalize no-fault divorces, legalize sodomy, etc..


Can you imagine being 24 and going to prison for having consensual sex with a 19 year old??

KurtBoyer25L
09-20-2010, 03:04 PM
Our sexual culture is so negative, self-loathing, oppressive & irrational that it never fails to drop my jaw right open when these things are written.

Consider that all those Bad People in the 87% in this author's article are defined by what are ultimately empty, subjective & loaded accusatory labels. All seven of them.

"Sex addict(ion)" is one of the dumber & more destructive concepts of our age. As Danno points out it is simply a function of sex being pre-conceptually, unthinkingly "understood" as an evil vice. To people guided by certain ancient philosophers (or Benjamin Franklin) who often dealt with sex as a healthy means of expression/enlightenment, it's the equivalent of "music addiction" or "soap addiction."

A "homosexual" is only guilty of wrongdoing in the eyes of mystics, at least qua being homosexual.

A criminal can be anyone there's a law against the actions of. Like for instance, homosexuals.

A rapist can be defined legally as a male or female of any age having sex with a teenager. Including another teenager. There have been teenage couples persecuted by the government for raping...themselves.

A prostitute can be anyone who has sex for money, for any purpose except making a movie. Kinsey paid people to have sex, so everyone who had sex for his studies were technically prostituting.

A pedophile is technically anyone attracted to people under the age of consent. See above. In this regard citizens have been arrested & branded for life for thought-crimes. Judges have ruled that any film of children can be defined as pornographic based not on the content but due to the thoughts of the person watching.

A prisoner can be a person who went to jail for any of the above.

There is not a single objective argument to be had here. Besides, do any of us think that the kids getting naked at Woodstock were bigger fans of Kinsey's droll research than of Sly and the goddamn Family Stone? Religious, loathsome crap.

ChaosControl
09-20-2010, 03:07 PM
I doubt it.

I think it was just by people who are incapable of keeping their private lives private and have some kind of mental illness that makes them feel the need to tell the whole world about their sexual acts.

KurtBoyer25L
09-20-2010, 03:14 PM
Imagine...

"I think it was just by people who are incapable of keeping their artistic life private and have some kind of mental illness that makes them feel the need to tell the whole world about their music and paintings."

"I think it was just by people who are incapable of keeping their charity work private and have some kind of mental illness that makes them feel the need to tell the whole world about their charity work."

"I think it was just by people who are incapable of keeping their spiritual life private and have some kind of mental illness that makes them feel the need to tell the whole world about their spirituality."

Vessol
09-20-2010, 03:22 PM
I'm just as scared of the Morality Police as I am the Thought Police.

Anti Federalist
09-20-2010, 03:26 PM
I'm just as scared of the Morality Police as I am the Thought Police.

Comrade, you must report to Miniluv right away.

CCTelander
09-20-2010, 03:51 PM
Our sexual culture is so negative, self-loathing, oppressive & irrational that it never fails to drop my jaw right open when these things are written.

Consider that all those Bad People in the 87% in this author's article are defined by what are ultimately empty, subjective & loaded accusatory labels. All seven of them.

"Sex addict(ion)" is one of the dumber & more destructive concepts of our age. As Danno points out it is simply a function of sex being pre-conceptually, unthinkingly "understood" as an evil vice. To people guided by certain ancient philosophers (or Benjamin Franklin) who often dealt with sex as a healthy means of expression/enlightenment, it's the equivalent of "music addiction" or "soap addiction."

A "homosexual" is only guilty of wrongdoing in the eyes of mystics, at least qua being homosexual.

A criminal can be anyone there's a law against the actions of. Like for instance, homosexuals.

A rapist can be defined legally as a male or female of any age having sex with a teenager. Including another teenager. There have been teenage couples persecuted by the government for raping...themselves.

A prostitute can be anyone who has sex for money, for any purpose except making a movie. Kinsey paid people to have sex, so everyone who had sex for his studies were technically prostituting.

A pedophile is technically anyone attracted to people under the age of consent. See above. In this regard citizens have been arrested & branded for life for thought-crimes. Judges have ruled that any film of children can be defined as pornographic based not on the content but due to the thoughts of the person watching.

A prisoner can be a person who went to jail for any of the above.

There is not a single objective argument to be had here. Besides, do any of us think that the kids getting naked at Woodstock were bigger fans of Kinsey's droll research than of Sly and the goddamn Family Stone? Religious, loathsome crap.


^This times about a billion.

Very well said.