Was "Restore Sanity" rally by Comedy Central libertarians really necessary?

[Liberty Star]

While neocon Beck and sanity may have parted ways long time ago, what is really the point of "Restore Sanity" rally being planned by some loud mouth comedy central libertarians?

Is anyone planning to attend?

[Kludge]

Never heard of it until now. What do they intend to do? Criticize Beck and mock Christianity OR hold a true tea party rally?

[Jeremy]

What do libertarians have to do with this?

[brenden.b]

What do libertarians have to do with this?

That's what I was wondering. Who are this "Comedy Central libertarians" you speak of?

[Liberty Star]

What do libertarians have to do with this?

Jon Stewart is seen as a libertarian somehow.

http://www.dirigoblue.com/diary/1212/jon-stewart-conservative-libertarian

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=280668




Never heard of it until now. What do they intend to do? Criticize Beck and mock Christianity OR hold a true tea party rally?

I just found out, don't know the detailed agenda of rally yet.

Is Beck a Christian? Did not know that.

[brenden.b]

Glenn Beck is a Mormon.

[brenden.b]

And who is calling Jon Stewart a libertarian?

[nate895]

Calling Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart "libertarians" is like calling Bush a "conservative."

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

Glenn Beck is a Mormon.

Remove the second "m" and you will find out what Beck really is.

[AlexMerced]

Jon Stewart is moderate...

people always think if your a centrist (a left leaning centrist in stewarts case) that means libertarian cause they think of the Political spectrum as one dimensions left right. It's actually two dimensional.

Horizontal axix = Statism vs Anarchism (Structure of Control Conflict)

Vertical Axis = Socialism vs. Capitalism (Resource Distribution Conflict)


Jon Stewart would be towards the middle of that chart slightly falling into Statist Social quadrant but only slightly, he can change his mind if he spent enough time with Ron Paul

[Kludge]

Remove the second "m" and you will find out what Beck really is.

Fuck.... I just spent a couple seconds trying to figure out "what the hell's a Mormo?"

[Anti Federalist]

Fuck.... I just spent a couple seconds trying to figure out "what the hell's a Mormo?"

ROFL that^^

And these guys are "libertarians"?

Yeah, so is Bill Maher...:rolleyes:

[fletcher]

John Stewart is a liberal. He is nowhere close to libertarian.

[Liberty Star]

Calling Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart "libertarians" is like calling Bush a "conservative."

I tend to agree, but they are more libertarians than some of the necons dressed as libertarians. They display libertarian leanings at times though and likely do not hate porn.

[Liberty Star]

John Stewart is a liberal. He is nowhere close to libertarian.

That is open to debate, lately some conservatives who are even less closer to libertarian principles claim to be so.

[silentshout]

It is possible that he is a left libertarian, but who knows. I like Stewart and Colbert's shows very much, but no, i won't be attending. The whole thing did start though by some people on reddit emailing them and urging them to do this.

[Liberty Star]

ROFL that^^

And these guys are "libertarians"?

Yeah, so is Bill Maher...:rolleyes:



Best post so far.

[Liberty Star]

And who is calling Jon Stewart a libertarian?

Same people who called Glenn Beck a conservative.

[specsaregood]

Yeah, so is Bill Maher...:rolleyes:

So is Hannity. :rolleyes:

[Anti Federalist]

So is Hannity. :rolleyes:

Oh, yeah, right, I had forgotten...:rolleyes:

[Liberty Star]

Glenn Beck is a Mormon.

Then he is a Christian, sort of.

[Fr3shjive]

lol @ having a rally for people who are apathetic to the entire political process. "Moderate" is basically anybody who is content with how things are run in washington today.

[Liberty Star]

lol @ having a rally for people who are apathetic to the entire political process. "Moderate" is basically anybody who is content with how things are run in washington today.

Couple of comedians can restore ablout as much "sanity" as couple of neocons can restore "honor".

Fighting a joke with a joke seems to be the game plan here.

[payme_rick]

These two are more libertarian than those neocon South Park guys, eh? Throw Ron Paul in there, that social-conservative ass hat...

[Depressed Liberator]

The South Park guys are actually pretty libertarian, and nowhere near neoconservative.

Anyway, I like things that bash Beck, and I don't live too far from D.C., so I may give it a visit. I also loathe the social issue conservatives, so I may wear a shirt that says "If evolution is real, why do gays exist?"

[Brett85]

John Stewart is about as libertarian as Karl Marx.

[Liberty Star]

I have something to say about this point but for fear of getting this discussion tossed in to HT also, I'm going to censor myself.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

The creators of South Park are libertarians. Other than that I don't know any other libertarians on Comedy Central.

[QueenB4Liberty]

Honestly, I don't think there will be many libertarians there at all. The Coffee Party Movement has embraced this, so I think it'll be pretty liberal. :(

[Stary Hickory]

And who is calling Jon Stewart a libertarian?

Truth to that, he leans left but doesn't always tow the lefty line on everything. He is no libertarian that is for sure.

This stuff is simply meant to make fun of anyone who DARES get politically active and thinks the country is in bad shape. It's meant to silence dissent and to make people embarrassed or ashamed to take a politically active role in restoring their freedoms.

An entire rally just to mock people. He is a real class act. F Jon Stewart.

[BenIsForRon]

Is anyone planning to attend?

I may or may not. I am a huge fan of the Daily Show fan(I rarely miss an episode), but that would be the only reason I would go to this thing. I'm sure there will be some funny guests.

But as much as I love Jon Stewart, and understand what he is trying to say, this really does look like a "It's cool to be apathetic!" rally. It's excusing people for not getting into activism, because they have "shit to do". There is no excuse for not getting involved when fascism is knocking at your door.

I think Jon's main point is akin the point he was making on crossfire many years ago: That all the anger and hate is clouding our ability to compromise and actually come up with solutions. That is true, but the critical part he is missing is that the ruling elite of the country are purposefully creating that atmosphere, because they know we will never go after them if we are constantly going after each other.

Here's the crossfire interview, it should give you an idea as to why he's doing this rally.

YouTube - jon stewart on crossfire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE)

[Vessol]

South Park is a hell of a lot more libertarian than Jon Stewart or Colbert.

[Promontorium]

Anyone who thinks Stewart or Colbert are any more libertarian than Obama needs to immediately hit the books. I swear to god. You are dangerous. You are seriously dangerous.

[Depressed Liberator]

An entire rally just to mock people. He is a real class act. F Jon Stewart.

A lot of which deserve it.


Anyone who thinks Stewart or Colbert are any more libertarian than Obama needs to immediately hit the books. I swear to god. You are dangerous. You are seriously dangerous.

You need to settle down. This really is really aimed towards mocking people like you.

[cindy25]

Stewart's favorite congressman is anti-gold Weiner

he is a socialist, with a few libertarian positions on social issues (similar to Maher)

[Stary Hickory]

A lot of which deserve it.



You need to settle down. This really is really aimed towards mocking people like you.

For what....please extrapolate? You might as mock everyone here while you are at it. Why are you here? Why do you even give a rats ass? Really are you just really bored and like to hang out in political forums and mock them for actually giving a damn? Get a life. Most people there just want government gone. Same as people here. And no I will not change my view on Jon Stewart. He is a POS, he does not do anyone any good. He is not talking about issues, his intent is to make fun of people who do.

He pretends to be moderate while promoting a lefty view, and then if someone gets upset because their liberties are being forcibly taken from them he tries to paint them as lunatics. Yea Stewart is a real swell guy.

[Stary Hickory]

Stewart's favorite congressman is anti-gold Weiner

he is a socialist, with a few libertarian positions on social issues (similar to Maher)

Exactly he is pushing a political ideology and doesn't even have the decency to debate it he is just trying silence any opposition by mocking folks. Same childish krap goes on in classrooms all over the country.

Stewart = tool

[silus]

Anyone who thinks Stewart or Colbert are any more libertarian than Obama needs to immediately hit the books. I swear to god. You are dangerous. You are seriously dangerous.
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/top-gun-movie-03.jpg
Thats right, I am dangerous.

[Stary Hickory]

Stewart is pushing the same old dead line if you don't agree with me you are crazy. No debate, nope aint gonna do that. Not gonna talk about morality...nope just your crazy...or your racist.....I mean he is really just a big fat tool for statist lefties.

Attempting to marginalize people and their concerns using labels and name calling....that is something we can all get behind really. Here is the message:

"Relax and let the statists rule your life if you object you must be CRAZY"

Same tired typical authoritarian garbage. Stewart just became scum, if he is going to push this agenda.

[Kludge]

Are your posts supposed to be read assuming sarcasm tonight, Stary?
Edit: ... Aside from the obvious sarcasm in italics.


"Attempting to marginalize people and their concerns using labels and name calling....that is something we can all get behind really. Here is the message:

"Relax and let the statists rule your life if you object you must be CRAZY"

Same tired typical authoritarian garbage. Stewart just became scum, if he is going to push this agenda."

[RonPaulwillWin]

Bunch of old people in this thread. (troll, I know...its late :) )

[Promontorium]

Ha ha ha! I like watching their shows and that's why I know you'd have to have a screw loose to think they're libertarians.

You'd be dangerous because you fit the category of higher ignorance, you know enough to trump the lay person, but you don't know enough to prevent your own downfall. Imagine an electrician who cheated on all his tests. He can talk like an electrician, but he's going to get someone killed. When you have someone like that in a political movement, they can trick any number of people to believe the most backwards ignorant shit.

[Kludge]

Here's the crossfire interview, it should give you an idea as to why he's doing this rally.

YouTube - jon stewart on crossfire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE)

Worth re-posting. :)

[timosman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpUcD9WEC4w

[timosman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfHD36sWQBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfHD36sWQBo



Nov 8, 2010

New Rule: If you're going to have a rally where hundreds of thousands of people show up, you might as well go ahead and make it about something.