Johnson surges ahead in Wisconsin

[Brett85]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/wisconsin/election_2010_wisconsin_senate

[MRoCkEd]

This guy sucks.

[Fozz]

I'm not even sure if I want him to win. Feingold is one of the better liberals.

[Brett85]

This guy sucks.

According to the DSCC Johnson is open to completely abolishing the federal reserve. He sounds like he's better than the average Republican. At least he'll be getting rid of one of the most far left Senators in the Senate.

Rated 17% by NTU, indicating a "Big Spender" on tax votes. (Dec 2003)
Rated 80% by the CTJ, indicating support of progressive taxation. (Dec 2006)

Russell Feingold is a Hard-Core Liberal.

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Russell_Feingold.htm

[Fozz]

According to the DSCC Johnson is open to completely abolishing the federal reserve. He sounds like he's better than the average Republican. At least he'll be getting rid of one of the most far left Senators in the Senate.

Rated 17% by NTU, indicating a "Big Spender" on tax votes. (Dec 2003)
Rated 80% by the CTJ, indicating support of progressive taxation. (Dec 2006)

Russell Feingold is a Hard-Core Liberal.

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Russell_Feingold.htm

Russ Feingold was the only Senator to vote against the PATRIOT Act. Liberalism is not entirely evil.

[Jeremy]

Russ Feingold was the only Senator to vote against the PATRIOT Act. Liberalism is not entirely evil.

You're basing it off of one vote?

[cindy25]

who would be more likely to be anti-war?

[Brett85]

who would be more likely to be anti-war?

Feingold. So you're a one issue voter as well? Who cares if he's against overseas wars when he's declared war on the economic freedom of U.S. citizens.

[Brett85]

Russ Feingold was the only Senator to vote against the PATRIOT Act. Liberalism is not entirely evil.

I'm opposed to warrentless searches, but I care more about issues like taxes and spending than I do a bill like that Patriot Act that hasn't had any impact on my life. If I didn't read the news I wouldn't even know that the Patriot Act existed. Isses like taxes and spending have a direct and immediate impact on my life.

[Slutter McGee]

I hope Johnson wins, but only for that possible Republican Senate.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

[MRoCkEd]

I think we need at least one guy in there who is good on civil liberties. I also would rather the gop come close to majority but not quite get it.

[Brett85]

I think we need at least one guy in there who is good on civil liberties. I also would rather the gop come close to majority but not quite get it.

Rand certainly will be. Ken Buck said that he was opposed to warrentless searches in the Campaign for Liberty questionnaire as well.

[MRoCkEd]

Is there a link to him on the fed?

[Brett85]

Is there a link to him on the fed?

This is all I could find. It's just coming from the national Democrats, so they certainly could've just been making stuff up.

http://www.dscc.org/news?type=press_release&press_release_KEY=1623

"Johnson is open to abolishing the federal reserve,"

[paulitics]

I'm opposed to warrentless searches, but I care more about issues like taxes and spending than I do a bill like that Patriot Act that hasn't had any impact on my life. If I didn't read the news I wouldn't even know that the Patriot Act existed. Isses like taxes and spending have a direct and immediate impact on my life.

You need to understand how the patriot act effects you directly, at least financially. It effects the financial industry, transportation, and many other sectors of the economy, etc. It is a massive beuaracracy where companies where big $$ must be spent just to be compliant. Just ask Peter Schiff. This hurts small businesses and consumers the most, slowing down the free market and rising prices. Not to mention all of the government overhead the taxpayers (you) must spend to feed this cancer.


Also, the patriot act can be used on political enemies all under the guise of protecting the public. Do you actually believe all of that power is not being abused? Perhaps those that would speak up on your behalf are being muzzled in large part due to the patriot act. I would say that government was able to grow leaps in bounds in large part because of 911 and the patriot act. It was the worst piece of legislation since the federal reserve.

[Brett85]

You need to understand how the patriot act effects you directly, at least financially. It effects the financial industry, transportation, and many other sectors of the economy, etc. It is a massive beuaracracy where companies where big $$ must be spent just to be compliant. Just ask Peter Schiff. This hurts small businesses and consumers the most, slowing down the free market and rising prices. Not to mention all of the government overhead the taxpayers (you) must spend to feed this cancer.


Also, the patriot act can be used on political enemies all under the guise of protecting the public. Do you actually believe all of that power is not being abused? Perhaps those that would speak up on your behalf are being muzzled in large part due to the patriot act. I would say that government was able to grow leaps in bounds in large part because of 911 and the patriot act. It was the worst piece of legislation since the federal reserve.

I guess I would have to look into it more. I'm not saying that I support it, but simply that I can't tell that it's had an impact on my life. If I was in Congress I would vote against it because it violates the 4th amendment, but from what I've heard there's also some non controversial things in there that I wouldn't repeal.

[specsaregood]

Isses like taxes and spending have a direct and immediate impact on my life.

And you think the wars have no impact on either of those 2 issues?

[Travlyr]

I'm not even sure if I want him to win. Feingold is one of the better liberals.

What does liberal mean today? Liberal, conservative, left, right tags only seem to obfuscate positions rather than define them. When somebody calls themselves, or someone else, a conservative I have no idea what they stand for... and I'm pretty well convinced that no one understands it accurately.

[Brett85]

And you think the wars have no impact on either of those 2 issues?

I didn't say that. It certainly has an impact on spending issues, as it increases the deficit and the national debt. I also think that endless war weakens our military and makes us less safe at home. I support bringing our troops home. My point is simply that I'm not a one issue voter, and I wouldn't vote against someone like Johnson simply because of this issue. Even Rand doesn't support an immediate withdrawel from Iraq and Afghanistan, and I've still given money to him and campaigned for him. There simply isn't anyone who's as anti war as Ron Paul, except maybe Dennis Kucinich. I want the Republicans to take control of the Senate to provide a check and balance on Obama.

[Travlyr]

I want the Republicans to take control of the Senate to provide a check and balance on Obama.

The check and balance on the President is what I thought we were going to get in 1994 with the "Contract with America."
We got the Republicans, but we didn't get less government... we got more... a lot more... we got screwed... and it will be the same in 2010. :mad:

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

[Brett85]

The check and balance on the President is what I thought we were going to get in 1994 with the "Contract with America."
We got the Republicans, but we didn't get less government... we got more... a lot more... we got screwed... and it will be the same in 2010. :mad:

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

We did get a balanced budget for a while. That's more than we'll get with the Democrats running everything.

[paulitics]

I guess I would have to look into it more. I'm not saying that I support it, but simply that I can't tell that it's had an impact on my life. If I was in Congress I would vote against it because it violates the 4th amendment, but from what I've heard there's also some non controversial things in there that I wouldn't repeal.

Are you unsure whether water is wet? Expanding the government will always impact your life, especially economically.

[Jeremy]

Are you unsure whether water is wet? Expanding the government will always impact your life, especially economically.

Which is why we need Fiengold to lose. This is a no-brainer.

[MRoCkEd]

Which is why we need Fiengold to lose. This is a no-brainer.
I'd love for him to lose if only the other guy wasn't just as bad!

[Jeremy]

I'd love for him to lose if only the other guy wasn't just as bad!

He can't be as bad as 17% from the NTU.

[MRoCkEd]

He can't be as bad as 17% from the NTU.
That rating doesn't incorporate civil liberties or foreign policy.

[Jeremy]

That rating doesn't incorporate civil liberties or foreign policy.

Obviously, but economic freedom is abused more than social freedom. And how do you know what civil liberties Johnson opposes?

[Pericles]

I'd suggest to you that the more incumbents that get tossed, the better. The remainder might learn something from those examples.

[MRoCkEd]

Obviously, but economic freedom is abused more than social freedom. And how do you know what civil liberties Johnson opposes?
http://wi.rlc.org/2010/06/ron-johnson-neocon/

Ron Johnson, candidate for U.S. Senate in Wisconsin, claims he is a Tea Party candidate.

But why did it take Mr. Johnson until mid-June, after he received the endorsement of the Republican Party establishment, to put up his issue position statements at his website?

Perhaps the Republican establishment had to craft the perfect issue position statements for him.

Unfortunately for Mr. Johnson, his issue position statement includes meddling in the affairs of law-abiding American citizens — something the Republican Liberty Caucus is vocal in its opposition to. Says Mr. Johnson’s website,

“Ron also supports REAL ID, requiring employers to verify the Social Security numbers of potential employees. Ron supports providing law enforcement the necessary tools, such as the Patriot Act, to protect our country.”

Ron Johnson wants to empower the federal government to snoop in the lives of ordinary private citizens, tap phone lines, and spy on Wisconsinites.

[libertybrewcity]

People in Wisconsin love Feingold. However, I think he could lose this time. The only thing stopping Johnson is his lack of Tea Party support by some.

[Fozz]

You're basing it off of one vote?

Feingold is also consistently anti-war.

[Fozz]

Feingold. So you're a one issue voter as well? Who cares if he's against overseas wars when he's declared war on the economic freedom of U.S. citizens.

I'd rather live in a peaceful socialist country than a pseudocapitalist country that drafts young people to get killed (the latter is not what America is, but it is how many neocons envision our country).

[Jeremy]

Feingold is also consistently anti-war.

He expands government. Big government = war.

[Fozz]

You need to understand how the patriot act effects you directly, at least financially. It effects the financial industry, transportation, and many other sectors of the economy, etc. It is a massive beuaracracy where companies where big $$ must be spent just to be compliant. Just ask Peter Schiff. This hurts small businesses and consumers the most, slowing down the free market and rising prices. Not to mention all of the government overhead the taxpayers (you) must spend to feed this cancer.


Also, the patriot act can be used on political enemies all under the guise of protecting the public. Do you actually believe all of that power is not being abused? Perhaps those that would speak up on your behalf are being muzzled in large part due to the patriot act. I would say that government was able to grow leaps in bounds in large part because of 911 and the patriot act. It was the worst piece of legislation since the federal reserve.

Great post, but I can't agree with your last sentence.

[Fozz]

He expands government. Big government = war.

Which is why I don't like Johnson. War leads to big government, as war is the health of the state.

But entitlements and socialized medicine do not lead to war.

[Fozz]

If people want to support Senate candidates besides Rand, they should donate to Ken Buck, not Ron Johnson.

[surf]

Who cares if he's against overseas wars when he's declared war on the economic freedom of U.S. citizens.

l do, but i don't live there.

[Brett85]

Are you unsure whether water is wet? Expanding the government will always impact your life, especially economically.

Then explain how the Patriot Act has affected you in your own personal life.

[Brett85]

If people want to support Senate candidates besides Rand, they should donate to Ken Buck, not Ron Johnson.

I'm not going to donate to him. I'm just saying I would vote for him if I lived in Wisconsin. But Johnson doesn't need money anyway. He's self funding his own campaign.

[specsaregood]

But entitlements and socialized medicine do not lead to war.

Unless you go to war to acquire proceeds to fund those things.....

[libertybrewcity]

Then explain how the Patriot Act has affected you in your own personal life.

it has affected our wallets because many of the regulations cost consumers money.

it has potentially destroyed a job that I could have done.

it has affected us all psychologically by placing fear in us via the militarization of the police and 'federalizing' much of the funding.

[Brett85]

it has potentially destroyed a job that I could have done.

What do you mean by that?

[Brett85]

My position on the Patriot Act is that it needs to be reformed to get rid of any warrentless searches. Warrentless searches are unconstitutional. But I wouldn't repeal the entire bill, because certain parts of it simply break down communication barriers between intelligence agencies. I don't see how anybody can be against that.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

I think we need at least one guy in there who is good on civil liberties.

Right. So McCain-Feingold needs to go.

[One Last Battle!]

Eh, to be honest, it isn't all that bad.

Neither is perfect, but they are both decent and acceptable for our purposes (Feingold would counteract war-hawk neo-con tea partiers, Johnson would counteract RINOs and spend-crazy Democrats)

Unless you actually live in Wisconsin (in which case you might as well flip a coin), we may as well ignore it entirely and focus on a place where the liberty candidate is far more evident (Rand Paul, Sharron Angle, etc)

[oyarde]

Eh, to be honest, it isn't all that bad.

Neither is perfect, but they are both decent and acceptable for our purposes (Feingold would counteract war-hawk neo-con tea partiers, Johnson would counteract RINOs and spend-crazy Democrats)

Unless you actually live in Wisconsin (in which case you might as well flip a coin), we may as well ignore it entirely and focus on a place where the liberty candidate is far more evident (Rand Paul, Sharron Angle, etc)

I would like to take a moment to remind people of the amount of damage Feingold has tryed to wage on the American people . He is not a harmless dip shit . He is an enemy of the people .