OFFLINE donations?

[Sematary]

I wonder if there is a way to get info on offline donations? LadyLiberty is going a little slow today and I know we broke the 1 mil mark on there but I figure using the 70% mark as a basis, that puts us at over 1.3 mil so far this month.

[reduen]

I wonder if there is a way to get info on offline donations? LadyLiberty is going a little slow today and I know we broke the 1 mil mark on there but I figure using the 70% mark as a basis, that puts us at over 1.3 mil so far this month.


I think that Lady Liberty is counting offline donations also. Don't qoute me for sure but I remember hearing that somewhere. :)

[Adamsa]

I think that Lady Liberty is counting offline donations also. Don't qoute me for sure but I remember hearing that somewhere. :)

It'd be great if it wasn't, because there'd be so much more. :D

[Richie]

The campaign has already said that offline donations to not count.

[reduen]

Not trying to argue Rich but do you have a link to that info?

[Buzz]

The campaign has already said that offline donations to not count.

I'd like to see the source as well. I heard that about 3/4 of the donations are online, so if true, we have about 4/3 as much money as the fundraising graphic shows.

[kylejack]

They've given conflicting information. It does count. It does not count.

I think the most likely answer is that its not counted, but they might add it in later. We've seen no huge instant spikes to indicate that they're adding it in.

[theseus51]

They've given conflicting information. It does count. It does not count.

I think the most likely answer is that its not counted, but they might add it in later. We've seen no huge instant spikes to indicate that they're adding it in.

I would think, that if I were in charge of handling paper checks, I wouldn't be typing in a name and adding it to the lady liberty online count as I process them. Too much hassle. I'd just make a total count for the day, and deposit it.

And yeah, since there doesn't seem to be an big spikes, I'd have to say they aren't included in the online lady liberty.

[kylejack]

I would think, that if I were in charge of handling paper checks, I wouldn't be typing in a name and adding it to the lady liberty online count as I process them. Too much hassle. I'd just make a total count for the day, and deposit it.

And yeah, since there doesn't seem to be an big spikes, I'd have to say they aren't included in the online lady liberty.

Right. Keep in mind, though, some of those expensive fund-raiser dinners use online contributions with a project code, so those probably are included.

[reduen]

I would think, that if I were in charge of handling paper checks, I wouldn't be typing in a name and adding it to the lady liberty online count as I process them. Too much hassle. I'd just make a total count for the day, and deposit it.

And yeah, since there doesn't seem to be an big spikes, I'd have to say they aren't included in the online lady liberty.

This seems to be good logic. Who knows? :)

[Richie]

Sorry I don't have a source on hand. I remember the fund raising manager said that they do not count. This was at the end of last quarter, so it might have changed. I wish they would count if they don't. That would help us out with this a heck of a lot.

[kylejack]

Sorry I don't have a source on hand. I remember the fund raising manager said that they do not count. This was at the end of last quarter, so it might have changed. I wish they would count if they don't. That would help us out with this a heck of a lot.

Right, and the conflicting part is that they stated "every cent will be counted" on Lady Liberty.

[m72mc]

Right, and the conflicting part is that they stated "every cent will be counted" on Lady Liberty.

they are referring to every online donation.

they also said today current speed points to 8 mill/quarter.
6 mill in online don + 2 mill offline don sums to about 8 mill.

besides why would they pay someone to work constantly on registering offline don online, only costs money and time.

[kylejack]

they are referring to every online donation.

they also said today current speed points to 8 mill/quarter.
6 mill in online don + 2 mill offline don sums to about 8 mill.

besides why would they pay someone to work constantly on registering offline don online, only costs money and time.
I'm not saying that you're wrong. I agree with you. But they have provided conflicting information.


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[mtmedlin]

I think it is pretty clear that it includes every cent raised, especially since it says
"the first campaign in history to disclose immediately every cent that is raised."

[Sematary]

I think it is pretty clear that it includes every cent raised, especially since it says
"the first campaign in history to disclose immediately every cent that is raised."

How would you disclose "immediately" checks, money orders and cash?

[kylejack]

How would you disclose "immediately" checks, money orders and cash?

Exactly...its all a big miscommunication. We'll see.

[Sematary]

Exactly...its all a big miscommunication. We'll see.

Then, of course, there is the fact that RP graphs shows just over 6 mil for the quarter but they are saying 8 - which, if the 70-75% holds true, makes sense.

[blamx8]

All those donors must be reported at the end of the quarter anyway so I imagine the info is being updated on a daily basis as it comes into the campaign office. I don't imagine that it would be too dificult to have three of four fields update the online tracker as each donation is entered for their fundraising reports.

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

Has anyone emailed the official campaign to ask about this...?

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

WHOA! Lady Liberty went from $1.7 mil last night to $2.2 mil today. Unless there was some huge money bomb today that nobody told me about, I think we have our answer. I'm assuming all the new money is from a bunch of offline donations that they entered into Lady Liberty earlier today.

So as far as I can tell, they are including offline donations, but they input chunks of offline donations into the counter sporadically a few times a month...?