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knarfxii
09-12-2010, 03:27 PM
YouTube - How will you eat when the Dollar crashes? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHuFZHgBd54)
How will you eat when the Dollar crashes?
People are concerned about the wars. People are concerned and the man in the White house. Many of us know what is going on with the inflation of the Dollar. Have we thought about what will happen once the Dollar crashes? I have given it a lot of thought. What I came up with is that we will go to a barter system. Gardens, Silver and Gold, Guns and ammo you will have to have. Wait, what about being stocked up on food? I have thought about that also and that is why I am writing to you now. I found a company that is giving away free survival food that will last 15 years! The Company is a spawn of EFoods Direct. To get your free food go to http://www.patriotshelpingpatriots.com/ Sign up for your free food.
I only want to help Patriots that want to help themselves!

UPDATE: I just got my FREE food from Sundance today in the mail!
YouTube - I just got my FREE food from Sundance today in the mail! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqox3eGeKKg)

I am eating my free food, come and join me!
YouTube - I am eating my free food, come and join me! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJjTmVbxYr4)

Danke
09-12-2010, 03:35 PM
You have food. I have ammo. I have your food.

phill4paul
09-12-2010, 03:36 PM
You have food. I have ammo. I have your food.

What if I have food and ammo? ;)

Danke
09-12-2010, 03:37 PM
What if I have food and ammo? ;)

Do you ever sleep?

(I plan on sending my nephews in first as scouts, I give them the scraps).

knarfxii
09-12-2010, 03:39 PM
You have food. I have ammo. I have your food.

made me laugh!

phill4paul
09-12-2010, 03:41 PM
Do you ever sleep?

(I plan on sending my nephews in first as scouts, I give them the scraps).

Yep. I put my nephews on watch.:D

Philhelm
09-12-2010, 03:44 PM
You have food. I have ammo. I have your food.

Damn, beat me to it. I say we team up on Phill4Paul. Deal?

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 03:46 PM
You have food. I have ammo. I have your food.

wouldn't that be thievery and murder? :eek:

Danke
09-12-2010, 03:46 PM
Damn, beat me to it. I say we team up on Phill4Paul. Deal?

I don't know, I'm a big eater.

Danke
09-12-2010, 03:47 PM
wouldn't that be thievery and murder? :eek:

Liberals taste like chicken.

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 03:48 PM
Damn, beat me to it. I say we team up on Phill4Paul. Deal?

Go for it, I'm with Phill, and I have 10,000 rounds of one-shot one-kill ready to go with zero notice. :)

Uriel999
09-12-2010, 03:52 PM
and when the dust settles and you guys are all dying of gunshots wounds I will come in and take the food. :D

phill4paul
09-12-2010, 03:54 PM
Go for it, I'm with Phill, and I have 10,000 rounds of one-shot one-kill ready to go with zero notice. :)

Notice Gunny gave the deterrent without one hint of enticements. Now THAT is how you post. :D

noxagol
09-12-2010, 03:56 PM
Same as I do now, with my mouth!

(cue drum snare)

PatriotOne
09-12-2010, 03:57 PM
Liberals taste like chicken.

Crap..you beat me to it.

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 03:57 PM
and when the dust settles and you guys are all dying of gunshots wounds I will come in and take the food. :D

What in the world makes you think that you (or the thieving murderer's bullets) will every find me? :)

phill4paul
09-12-2010, 04:00 PM
and when the dust settles and you guys are all dying of gunshots wounds I will come in and take the food. :D

And if the dust settles and some are still standing and better armed? :D

awake
09-12-2010, 04:02 PM
Imagine... If the IRS had started off as a charity.

*Knock, Knock* Good evening mam, I am with the Internal Revenue Service... We are collecting donations today so that some day we may cure the horrible affliction of having to ask for donations.

Philhelm
09-12-2010, 04:03 PM
What in the world makes you think that you (or the thieving murderer's bullets) will every find me? :)


"The cunning warrior attacks neither body nor mind...the heart, Osborn! First, we attack his heart!"

-Willem Dafoe / Green Goblin

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 04:03 PM
Notice Gunny gave the deterrent without one hint of enticements. Now THAT is how you post. :D

LOL yeah, this whole "you have food, I have bullets" argument really pisses me off. Talk about the antithesis of everything we stand for! I have heard plenty of people advance this argument in all seriousness. If someone is too stupid to prepare ahead of time, they think they have a right to kill the smart people and take their food? Stuff that! I'll stand shoulder-to-shoulder with a card-carrying communist to defend him against the likes of "libertarians" who think they can go about murdering people for their food. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Every time I see that "you have food, I have ammo, I have your food" garbage it sends me to the brink of a murderous rage. That's the f'n truth. :mad:

amy31416
09-12-2010, 04:04 PM
I can't wait until my tins o' tuna are worth their weight in gold. I'll share with Gunny--not so sure about that Danke character though.

Philhelm
09-12-2010, 04:06 PM
Actually, I'm surprised nobody has brought up the free market solution; I can simply provide a service for someone who has food.

amy31416
09-12-2010, 04:08 PM
Actually, I'm surprised nobody has brought up the free market solution; I can simply provide a service for someone who has food.

Yeah, but how much does male prostitution pay?











:eek:

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 04:09 PM
Actually, I'm surprised nobody has brought up the free market solution; I can simply provide a service for someone who has food.

There is little or no future in service-sector economics. Better to figure out how to actually PRODUCE something.

Philhelm
09-12-2010, 04:09 PM
LOL yeah, this whole "you have food, I have bullets" argument really pisses me off. Talk about the antithesis of everything we stand for! I have heard plenty of people advance this argument in all seriousness. If someone is too stupid to prepare ahead of time, they think they have a right to kill the smart people and take their food? Stuff that! I'll stand shoulder-to-shoulder with a card-carrying communist to defend him against the likes of "libertarians" who think they can go about murdering people for their food. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Every time I see that "you have food, I have ammo, I have your food" garbage it sends me to the brink of a murderous rage. That's the f'n truth. :mad:

I'd imagine that most people on this site who make that argument are not serious about murdering others for food. However, it is important to remember that there are plenty of people who would do such.

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 04:12 PM
I'd imagine that most people on this site who make that argument are not serious about murdering others for food. However, it is important to remember that there are plenty of people who would do such.

True enough, that's why I said "against the likes of "libertarians" who think they can go about murdering" instead of "against the likes of Danke who think they can go about murdering." I don't think Danke is serious about doing such a thing. It is indeed good for us to remember that there are plenty of people who actually will, though.

Danke
09-12-2010, 04:13 PM
I can't wait until my tins o' tuna are worth their weight in gold. I'll share with Gunny--not so sure about that Danke character though.

I have your coordinates.

But you are safe. I like tender meat. Can't stand all that gristle.

amy31416
09-12-2010, 04:15 PM
I have your coordinates.

Pfft. You don't have the coordinates of my tins o' tuna. Think I'm silly enough to keep 'em on me? Like I wear a trench coat chock full of tuna or something?

You underestimate me, flyboy.

ETA: No gristle? I guess me and my dog are safe. :)

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 04:16 PM
I have your coordinates.

But you are safe. I like tender meat. Can't stand all that gristle.

I can center-mass a head at 600 yards.

Acala
09-12-2010, 04:18 PM
There is little or no future in service-sector economics. Better to figure out how to actually PRODUCE something.

Exactly this^

How long does anyone think they are going to live on a food stash? Six months? A year? How many of you have more than a year of food stashed? The Great Depression lasted TEN years! When the dollar finally pops, the GD will look like prosperity.

Learn to produce something of value. I think some trades will have a market - welding, auto repair, sewing, locksmithing, gunsmithing, etc. But only if you have the tools, skills, and supplies already in place.

amy31416
09-12-2010, 04:18 PM
I can center-mass a head at 600 yards.

Quit hitting on Danke, this is a family forum! :eek:

Danke
09-12-2010, 04:20 PM
Quit hitting on Danke, this is a family forum! :eek:

Marines do like to hang out on boats with sailors...

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 04:21 PM
Exactly this^

How long does anyone think they are going to live on a food stash? Six months? A year? How many of you have more than a year of food stashed? The Great Depression lasted TEN years! When the dollar finally pops, the GD will look like prosperity.

Learn to produce something of value. I think some trades will have a market - welding, auto repair, sewing, locksmithing, gunsmithing, etc. But only if you have the tools, skills, and supplies already in place.

To be honest, some services will be quite valuable; marksmanship training, security guarding, etc. You could probably get quite a bit of barter teaching people how to reload, but you are better off just reloading yourself and selling ammo for trade goods.

Philhelm
09-12-2010, 04:23 PM
There is little or no future in service-sector economics. Better to figure out how to actually PRODUCE something.

I wasn't referring to service in a strict sense such as that; however, while I agree that production is required for real wealth, non-wealth producing services can still be important so long as the balance isn't skewed like it is in the U.S.

Vaguely speaking, if you had excess food, and I could provide some sort of non-producing services for you that could provide you with more time, you could use that excess time to produce more. This can work, so long as the producer sees value in the service.

Or a service could be something such as your nephew standing guard at night while you sleep. He wouldn't produce something, but his service would be valuable assuming that there would be a liklihood of others attempting to steal your property. If his compensation for that service is food, then both of you could mutually benefit.

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 04:23 PM
Quit hitting on Danke, this is a family forum! :eek:

Well, for Danke it may be 700 yards. that fella has a BIIIIIIG head!


Marines do like to hang out on boats with sailors...

Whatever the seamen do on their own time is their own business, so long as they taxi us to the warzone where the real men fight it's all good. :D

Acala
09-12-2010, 04:29 PM
To be honest, some services will be quite valuable; marksmanship training, security guarding, etc. You could probably get quite a bit of barter teaching people how to reload, but you are better off just reloading yourself and selling ammo for trade goods.

Want the secret to making money in reloading in a real SHTF scenario? Get the equipment and learn to swage bullets. Can't reload .223 (or any other military caliber) without copper jacketed bullet. Can't cast 'em. You must either lay in a crap load of them now or learn to swage. If I were planning to make a living in the ammo business, that would be how I would go about it. The dies and press are not cheap, but not out of the question. There is a monkey on every block with a Dillon press. But where will they get their jacketed bullets? From you! If you know how to swage.

phill4paul
09-12-2010, 04:31 PM
Well, for Danke it may be 700 yards. that fella has a BIIIIIIG head!

I'M not gonna touch that one. Really, I'm not.




Whatever the seamen do on their own time is their own business, so long as they taxi us to the warzone where the real men fight it's all good. :D

Yeah, those SEALS really suck.:rolleyes:

MRK
09-12-2010, 04:51 PM
Want the secret to making money in reloading in a real SHTF scenario? Get the equipment and learn to swage bullets. Can't reload .223 (or any other military caliber) without copper jacketed bullet. Can't cast 'em. You must either lay in a crap load of them now or learn to swage. If I were planning to make a living in the ammo business, that would be how I would go about it. The dies and press are not cheap, but not out of the question. There is a monkey on every block with a Dillon press. But where will they get their jacketed bullets? From you! If you know how to swage.

Pre-1982 Copper pennies ftw!

2006 ban on melting down coins ftl :( (http://www.usatoday.com/money/2006-12-14-melting-ban-usat_x.htm)

By the way, the value of the copper in those pennies is up to 2.2 cents now. I've got about 300. You can still find them everywhere.

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 04:56 PM
I'M not gonna touch that one. Really, I'm not.

Just look at him peeking out from behind that cubicle. That thing is as big as a watermelon!


Yeah, those SEALS really suck.:rolleyes:

Every group of run of the mill's is entitled to their fraction of a percent of over achievers. :D

Flash
09-12-2010, 05:01 PM
Would there still be a government when/if the dollar collapses?

Anti Federalist
09-12-2010, 05:04 PM
I know where I'll be.

Swim, motherfuckers.

lynnf
09-12-2010, 05:13 PM
Liberals taste like chicken.

actually, pork --- people taste like pork (or so I've read) and that's considering that you grant people status to liberals. I don't think their politics will change the salt content of their bodies (sorta salty like pork).


lynn

MelissaWV
09-12-2010, 05:15 PM
Via my mouth. (This is a thread?)

Dr.3D
09-12-2010, 05:16 PM
Via my mouth. (This is a thread?)

That's pretty much what I was thinking. I'll eat just the way I always have.

phill4paul
09-12-2010, 05:17 PM
Just look at him peeking out from behind that cubicle. That thing is as big as a watermelon!

Gonna just let this go. :D and concentrate on this.


Every group of run of the mill's is entitled to their fraction of a percent of over achievers. :D

:D I know your j/k. 'Cause I don't know a Marine that has anything bad to say about their Navy Corpsman or naval aerial support in a tough situations.
Aside from the fact that the Marine Corp. exists as an extension of the Department of the Navy.;)

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 05:22 PM
Gonna just let this go. :D and concentrate on this.



:D I know your j/k. 'Cause I don't know a Marine that has anything bad to say about their Navy Corpsman or naval aerial support in a tough situations.
Aside from the fact that the Marine Corp. exists as an extension of the Department of the Navy.;)

Sailors and Marines bang on each other all the time, but it's a brotherly thing. Let a soldier or a zoomie look at one of em wrong and see what the other does. ;) ;)

phill4paul
09-12-2010, 05:24 PM
Sailors and Marines bang on each other all the time, but it's a brotherly thing. Let a soldier or a zoomie look at one of em wrong and see what the other does. ;) ;)

Yep. ;)

Danke
09-12-2010, 05:44 PM
Sailors and Marines bang on each other all the time...

Tell me something I don't know.

phill4paul
09-12-2010, 05:45 PM
Tell me something I don't know.

Damn! See I wasn't gonna go there either....

lynnf
09-12-2010, 05:45 PM
Would there still be a government when/if the dollar collapses?

martial law is a kind of government, but just barely. kinda beats jungle rules.

lynn

Anti Federalist
09-12-2010, 05:48 PM
Tell me something I don't know.

Lacks lovin' ^^^

Jealous.

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 06:00 PM
martial law is a kind of government, but just barely. kinda beats jungle rules.

lynn

are you sure?

Golding
09-12-2010, 06:03 PM
I will eat dollar bills.

Anti Federalist
09-12-2010, 06:06 PM
are you sure?

I'd take jungle law over martial law any day.

Just have to be well prepared.

Make sure you have your life jacket on.

http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2009/07/16/0zrlb5338y.jpg

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 06:27 PM
I'd take jungle law over martial law any day.hear here!


Just have to be well prepared.

Make sure you have your life jacket on.

http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2009/07/16/0zrlb5338y.jpg

Y'know, I've seen this pic several times, and I still can't even begin to imagine wtf was going on in that guy's head...

- tired of it all, please shoot me. shoot me now. Here, let me make myself an easier target.

- the guy on the corner said it was a bulletproof vest. Amazingly, it weighs less than a pound.

- my uncle the fisherman gave me this, said it saved his life. maybe it will save mine.

???

Vessol
09-12-2010, 06:34 PM
Too bad the Federal Reserve doesn't make edible dollar bills, then no one would starve.

legion
09-12-2010, 06:59 PM
YouTube - Penn and Teller Bullshit S08E05 Easy Money Part (1/2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y60XdZJG83U)
YouTube - Penn and Teller Bullshit S08E05 Easy Money Part (2/2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m_4S5BtIbk)

Hey, here's how I'm going to eat! Mancave! Yeah.

osan
09-12-2010, 07:03 PM
Liberals taste like chicken.

Doubtful. Nobody who's ever bitten into one has ever lived long enough to tell.

Bet they taste like they sound: like pig vomit.

osan
09-12-2010, 07:07 PM
There is little or no future in service-sector economics. Better to figure out how to actually PRODUCE something.

I've been telling this to people for at least 20 years. They just look at me as if I'd sprouted a third head. If things go south in a big way, I wonder what all those people will then be thinking.

Division of labor is a beautiful thing. Too much of anything will kill you.

knarfxii
09-12-2010, 07:18 PM
I've been telling this to people for at least 20 years. They just look at me as if I'd sprouted a third head. If things go south in a big way, I wonder what all those people will then be thinking.

Division of labor is a beautiful thing. Too much of anything will kill you.

We had better be prepared!

lynnf
09-12-2010, 07:27 PM
are you sure?

nothing is sure, and in this, since it would heavily depend upon who the local military dictator is, it is definitely not sure. but it does have a better chance at some measure of justice over whatever gangs would enforce with their brute force. of course, since Obama would be giving the orders on down, they could just get rid of their opposition, like Ron Paul supporters, truthers, etc. and that may be why we show up in the listings of the likes of the MIAC report, etc.

the South certainly didn't like their martial law but then the Yankees had an axe to grind.

lynn

speciallyblend
09-12-2010, 07:34 PM
sprouting and ammo

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 07:36 PM
nothing is sure, and in this, since it would heavily depend upon who the local military dictator is, it is definitely not sure. but it does have a better chance at some measure of justice over whatever gangs would enforce with their brute force. of course, since Obama would be giving the orders on down, they could just get rid of their opposition, like Ron Paul supporters, truthers, etc. and that may be why we show up in the listings of the likes of the MIAC report, etc.

the South certainly didn't like their martial law but then the Yankees had an axe to grind.

lynn

martial law in the US today would favor socialists and cold hard cash at the expense of honest people. At least the jungle would be an even playing field for everyone.

Anti Federalist
09-12-2010, 07:37 PM
Y'know, I've seen this pic several times, and I still can't even begin to imagine wtf was going on in that guy's head...

- tired of it all, please shoot me. shoot me now. Here, let me make myself an easier target.

- the guy on the corner said it was a bulletproof vest. Amazingly, it weighs less than a pound.

- my uncle the fisherman gave me this, said it saved his life. maybe it will save mine.

???

Here's the same guy in another engagement, later (earlier?) in the day.

This was in Liberia, during the last uprising.

I have to think it's number 2 or 3.

http://www.fmft.net/archives/gangsta%2021/gangsta9.JPG

Zippyjuan
09-12-2010, 08:47 PM
That's pretty much what I was thinking. I'll eat just the way I always have.

Usually with a fork or spoon now. If things get really bad I might just have to use my fingers.

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 09:14 PM
Here's the same guy in another engagement, later (earlier?) in the day.

This was in Liberia, during the last uprising.

I have to think it's number 2 or 3.

http://www.fmft.net/archives/gangsta%2021/gangsta9.JPG

didn't get the image 8-(

I am actually interested in this, as I have this bizarre freakish need to know why in hell he'd want to wear that thing to a firefight

Anti Federalist
09-12-2010, 09:29 PM
didn't get the image 8-(

I am actually interested in this, as I have this bizarre freakish need to know why in hell he'd want to wear that thing to a firefight

Crap, I see that, for some reason that damn site will hot link once or twice and that's it.

Let's see how this one does:

http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/attachments/nonsense-anything-boards/195529d1272403026-original-gangsta-how-shoot-gangsta9.jpg

By the way, dropped a check in the mail for the 17 September MB, just wanted to make sure it goes in the till for that day. ;)

Pericles
09-12-2010, 09:57 PM
LOL yeah, this whole "you have food, I have bullets" argument really pisses me off. Talk about the antithesis of everything we stand for! I have heard plenty of people advance this argument in all seriousness. If someone is too stupid to prepare ahead of time, they think they have a right to kill the smart people and take their food? Stuff that! I'll stand shoulder-to-shoulder with a card-carrying communist to defend him against the likes of "libertarians" who think they can go about murdering people for their food. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Every time I see that "you have food, I have ammo, I have your food" garbage it sends me to the brink of a murderous rage. That's the f'n truth. :mad:

In any case, I doubt the Non Aggression Principle will last the day when SHTF.

I have food. I have guns. I have a bunker of ammunition. I have friends with food, guns, and bunkers.....

Pericles
09-12-2010, 10:09 PM
hear here!



Y'know, I've seen this pic several times, and I still can't even begin to imagine wtf was going on in that guy's head...

- tired of it all, please shoot me. shoot me now. Here, let me make myself an easier target.

- the guy on the corner said it was a bulletproof vest. Amazingly, it weighs less than a pound.

- my uncle the fisherman gave me this, said it saved his life. maybe it will save mine.

???

It is the culture - also FYI, longer weapons are more powerful - that is why they have bayonets mounted whenever possible.

Zippyjuan
09-12-2010, 10:49 PM
Longer weapons are not necessarily more powerful- just more accurate. A heaver gun is easier to hold steady for a shot. Bayonets are for if the enemy gets too close to shoot with your longer rifle. A bayonet can decrease the accuracy of a rifle. Sometimes it can effect the balance.

Vessol
09-12-2010, 10:52 PM
Can you still even buy bayonets?

Anti Federalist
09-12-2010, 10:58 PM
Can you still even buy bayonets?

http://www.bayonetsonline.com/

GunnyFreedom
09-12-2010, 11:03 PM
Crap, I see that, for some reason that damn site will hot link once or twice and that's it.

Let's see how this one does:

http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/attachments/nonsense-anything-boards/195529d1272403026-original-gangsta-how-shoot-gangsta9.jpg

Yeah, I get it, but I still don't get it. If my culture told me to wear a blaze orange neon bullseye in a firefight, I'd tell my culture to go take a flying leap...

Sure looks like he's proud of it tho...


By the way, dropped a check in the mail for the 17 September MB, just wanted to make sure it goes in the till for that day. ;)

Thank you sir! It will indeed be counted in the moneybomb. It really means a lot to me for you to participate in this. Thanks man.

Anti Federalist
09-12-2010, 11:10 PM
Yeah, I get it, but I still don't get it. If my culture told me to wear a blaze orange neon bullseye in a firefight, I'd tell my culture to go take a flying leap...

Sure looks like he's proud of it tho...

Well, maybe he's down near the quayside and figures if all hell breaks loose (worse than it already was that is) he can jump overboard and swim for it. ;)


Thank you sir! It will indeed be counted in the moneybomb. It really means a lot to me for you to participate in this. Thanks man.

Happy to do it.

Anti Federalist
09-12-2010, 11:20 PM
dupe post nvm

Pericles
09-12-2010, 11:43 PM
Longer weapons are not necessarily more powerful- just more accurate. A heaver gun is easier to hold steady for a shot. Bayonets are for if the enemy gets too close to shoot with your longer rifle. A bayonet can decrease the accuracy of a rifle. Sometimes it can effect the balance.

I need to hook you up with some stories from some Green Berets operating in Africa.

The preferred weapon in the SKS because it is 44 inches before bayonet, then the M16 at 40 inches, then the AKs.

Vests have magical properties - thicker = more bullet resistance.

In Muslim countries, real men fight standing up - to crouch in a hole or behind cover is womanly.

Money quote: Explaining his motivation, one Iraqi sniper told the London Sunday Times, “When I snipe at my target and watch him drop, I feel elated—
dizzy with ecstasy. I fall on the ground, shouting to God, calling Allah akbar, for God is indeed great. When their snipers kill one of us, we go to heaven as martyrs. But when we kill them they go to hell.”

The rest of the world does not operate the way we do.

Philhelm
09-13-2010, 12:57 AM
Can you still even buy bayonets?

Well, I own a bayonet, and got it in 2005, if I recall correctly.

fj45lvr
09-13-2010, 02:47 AM
Liberals taste like chicken.

No they don't....it's PORK!!!!

lynnf
09-13-2010, 04:41 AM
martial law in the US today would favor socialists and cold hard cash at the expense of honest people. At least the jungle would be an even playing field for everyone.

no, I don't think it would be an even playing field. gangs will rule at some point in the beginning and only if the rest of us organize and become gangs ourselves will they be countered. ward politics/warfare. think Mexico.

lynn

MelissaCato
09-13-2010, 05:40 AM
Learn to produce something of value. I think some trades will have a market - welding, auto repair, sewing, locksmithing, gunsmithing, etc. But only if you have the tools, skills, and supplies already in place.


I've been Mason Jaring foods since 2007 .. I have a bunker of stash. :D

I have another bunker filled with empty Mason Jars, and another with OTC medical supplies and camping tents. :D

Hope the shit doesn't hit the fan though. If it does, I hope our Republic wins, again. ;)

legion
09-13-2010, 06:03 AM
lol this whole thread is about an MLM scheme but nobody noticed because their too busy answering the question in the title instead of actually paying attention... :cool:

this post will also not be read.

GunnyFreedom
09-13-2010, 11:10 AM
lol this whole thread is about an MLM scheme but nobody noticed because their too busy answering the question in the title instead of actually paying attention... :cool:

this post will also not be read.

Your post was read. I did notice the MLM scheme. I don't actually care in this case, because this is one of the few products where an MLM model might actually be appropriate to the product. LTS foods, and bug-out/survival gear normally traded within insular tightly knot communities would seem to me to be one of the few trade goods that would be appropriate to an honest MLM system (if you could actually find one lol).

phill4paul
09-13-2010, 03:15 PM
In Muslim countries, real men fight standing up - to crouch in a hole or behind cover is womanly.

Money quote: Explaining his motivation, one Iraqi sniper told the London Sunday Times, “When I snipe at my target and watch him drop, I feel elated—
dizzy with ecstasy. I fall on the ground, shouting to God, calling Allah akbar, for God is indeed great. When their snipers kill one of us, we go to heaven as martyrs. But when we kill them they go to hell.”


I see what he did there. ;)

oyarde
09-13-2010, 04:08 PM
I'd take jungle law over martial law any day.

Just have to be well prepared.

Make sure you have your life jacket on.

http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2009/07/16/0zrlb5338y.jpg

Does anyone know where this photo was taken ?

oyarde
09-13-2010, 04:14 PM
Africa ?

knarfxii
09-13-2010, 05:48 PM
Haiti?

Seraphim
09-13-2010, 06:00 PM
Would there still be a government when/if the dollar collapses?

You bet your ass. It will be a time where government RADICALLY expands.

Warrior_of_Freedom
09-13-2010, 06:13 PM
You have food. I have ammo. I have your food.

I have a bigger gun. I have your ammo and your food. :D

oyarde
09-13-2010, 06:18 PM
You bet your ass. It will be a time where government RADICALLY expands.

Correct it would be battle , Marxists or Liberty .

oyarde
09-13-2010, 06:20 PM
I guess I will eat fish , rabbits , squirrels , quail and what I grow , corn , green beans , tomatoes . Liberals do not merit to be eaten , instead , make tools from the bones :)

legion
09-13-2010, 08:02 PM
I guess I will eat fish , rabbits , squirrels , quail and what I grow , corn , green beans , tomatoes . Liberals do not merit to be eaten , instead , make tools from the bones :)

Are you sure? I'd imagine Liberal meat would be pretty tender... like veal. The flesh has never seen a day of work in its life.

Anti Federalist
09-13-2010, 08:16 PM
Does anyone know where this photo was taken ?

Monrovia, Liberia.

oyarde
09-13-2010, 08:19 PM
Monrovia, Liberia.

Thats what I thought . So do you think this guy is just high and waring that to dare them to shoot him ?

Anti Federalist
09-13-2010, 08:37 PM
Thats what I thought . So do you think this guy is just high and waring that to dare them to shoot him ?

Honestly?

I really think he has convinced himself that vest will save him.

amy31416
09-13-2010, 08:40 PM
Honestly?

I really think he has convinced himself that vest will save him.

Pretty tame. I saw a documentary on Liberia where they believe that eating your enemy's brains will protect you. Cannibalism is common. Rape is around 80% for women, rates are unknown for men since it's rarely reported, but seemingly common.

Looks like one of the most repulsive places on Earth--I have yet to see worse anyways.

oyarde
09-13-2010, 08:40 PM
Honestly?

I really think he has convinced himself that vest will save him.

Oh man , that is hard to take . He is qualified for a Senste seat or a Czar position here :) .

oyarde
09-13-2010, 08:42 PM
Pretty tame. I saw a documentary on Liberia where they believe that eating your enemy's brains will protect you. Cannibalism is common. Rape is around 80% for women, rates are unknown for men since it's rarely reported, but seemingly common.

Looks like one of the most repulsive places on Earth--I have yet to see worse anyways.

Well if they are eating brains , that will not last long , there is a disease from that that kills 80 % .

Dr.3D
09-13-2010, 09:03 PM
I guess I will eat fish , rabbits , squirrels , quail and what I grow , corn , green beans , tomatoes . Liberals do not merit to be eaten , instead , make tools from the bones :)

How long do you think those will last when every other Joe with a fishing pole and a rifle gets the same idea?

amy31416
09-13-2010, 09:26 PM
Well if they are eating brains , that will not last long , there is a disease from that that kills 80 % .

Maybe, maybe not...

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0410_030410_cannibal.html


Summary: Genetic markers commonly found in modern humans all over the world could be evidence that our earliest ancestors were cannibals, according to new research. Scientists suggest that even today many of us carry a gene that evolved as protection against brain diseases that can be spread by eating human flesh.

pcosmar
09-13-2010, 09:32 PM
How long do you think those will last when every other Joe with a fishing pole and a rifle gets the same idea?

A long time where I am at, Winter will kill a lot of the uninitiated off.

The UP can be harsh. Makes folks tough or dead. No middle ground.
:cool:

Fox McCloud
09-13-2010, 09:47 PM
I suppose eating at restaurants during the initial phase as well as buying up as much freeze-dried+dehydrated+canned foods as possible would be a good starting point; when it initially crashes, you'll be getting a firesale-like bargain on everything; it won't last long though, depending on the severity and the pace; if its extremely fast, forget about the restaurants.

GunnyFreedom
09-14-2010, 12:23 AM
Seeds, land, chickens, goats, and sheep.

knarfxii
09-14-2010, 03:22 PM
Seeds, land, chickens, goats, and sheep.

I wish I had all that!

GunnyFreedom
09-14-2010, 03:25 PM
I wish I had all that!

Seeds and land I have. Chickens I can get without hastle, just a matter of waiting for eggs to hatch etc. Goats and sheep I will trade ammo for once it hits the fan.

oyarde
09-14-2010, 03:51 PM
How long do you think those will last when every other Joe with a fishing pole and a rifle gets the same idea?

I have considered that . It is a good point .

LibertyVox
09-14-2010, 03:53 PM
piranhas

MelissaWV
09-14-2010, 05:08 PM
How long do you think those will last when every other Joe with a fishing pole and a rifle gets the same idea?

If people are shooting rabbits with rifles, they won't last long on that meat (and they'll run out of bullets/shells for whatever weapons they are unloading on small game). Having a fishing pole, and knowing how to bait/use it, are two different things. The best thing to do if SHTF is to get away from every other Joe. Most Joes will die off, and the scavenger animals that gorge on those carcasses will not be fit to eat. This is why, when things get really tough, you shouldn't eat dogs in particular, or rats, or even squirrels. You should get the hell towards the hills and eat things that know to steer clear of diseased, chemical laden human corpses :p

Dr.3D
09-14-2010, 05:14 PM
If people are shooting rabbits with rifles, they won't last long on that meat (and they'll run out of bullets/shells for whatever weapons they are unloading on small game). Having a fishing pole, and knowing how to bait/use it, are two different things. The best thing to do if SHTF is to get away from every other Joe. Most Joes will die off, and the scavenger animals that gorge on those carcasses will not be fit to eat. This is why, when things get really tough, you shouldn't eat dogs in particular, or rats, or even squirrels. You should get the hell towards the hills and eat things that know to steer clear of diseased, chemical laden human corpses :p

Well, how about using a snare to get those wascally wabbits? :D

GunnyFreedom
09-14-2010, 05:19 PM
Well, how about using a snare to get those wascally wabbits? :D

or a .22 which doesn't make a stupid amount of noise, doesn't obliterate the meat, and shells can be had at 1200 for $25

oyarde
09-14-2010, 05:24 PM
If people are shooting rabbits with rifles, they won't last long on that meat (and they'll run out of bullets/shells for whatever weapons they are unloading on small game). Having a fishing pole, and knowing how to bait/use it, are two different things. The best thing to do if SHTF is to get away from every other Joe. Most Joes will die off, and the scavenger animals that gorge on those carcasses will not be fit to eat. This is why, when things get really tough, you shouldn't eat dogs in particular, or rats, or even squirrels. You should get the hell towards the hills and eat things that know to steer clear of diseased, chemical laden human corpses :p

Meh , the squirrels will be ok :)

MelissaWV
09-14-2010, 05:26 PM
or a .22 which doesn't make a stupid amount of noise, doesn't obliterate the meat, and shells can be had at 1200 for $25

You get my point ;) But if we're really living in SHTF-ville, do you want to shoot much at all? Depending on your terrain, you might just be doing the equivalent of standing up and shouting "HEY I'M OVER HERE! I HAVE SOME AMMO, BUT MAYBE I'M NOT AS GOOD A SHOT AS YOU ARE, AND I PROBABLY HAVE FOOD AND AM SO COMFORTABLE OR STUPID THAT I GAVE NO CONSIDERATION TO THE SOUND ME FIRING A WEAPON WILL MAKE! YOU COULD PROBABLY JUST KILL ME IN MY SLEEP TONIGHT! YOU CAN FIND ME BY MY BIG, SMOKE-PRODUCING FIRE!" :D

oyarde
09-14-2010, 08:34 PM
You get my point ;) But if we're really living in SHTF-ville, do you want to shoot much at all? Depending on your terrain, you might just be doing the equivalent of standing up and shouting "HEY I'M OVER HERE! I HAVE SOME AMMO, BUT MAYBE I'M NOT AS GOOD A SHOT AS YOU ARE, AND I PROBABLY HAVE FOOD AND AM SO COMFORTABLE OR STUPID THAT I GAVE NO CONSIDERATION TO THE SOUND ME FIRING A WEAPON WILL MAKE! YOU COULD PROBABLY JUST KILL ME IN MY SLEEP TONIGHT! YOU CAN FIND ME BY MY BIG, SMOKE-PRODUCING FIRE!" :D

She is a wily one , scoping out my fire :)

knarfxii
09-16-2010, 02:57 AM
Actually, I'm surprised nobody has brought up the free market solution; I can simply provide a service for someone who has food.

Is what it is all about!

silus
09-16-2010, 02:58 AM
Top Ramen.

denison
09-16-2010, 06:07 AM
I have a bigger gun. I have your ammo and your food. :D

:rolleyes: Americans and there thirst for blood and violence. Never gets old.

torchbearer
09-16-2010, 06:18 AM
http://dexter.download-tvshows.com/sites/default/files/dexter20.jpg
i'll have a freezer full of looter meat.

knarfxii
09-17-2010, 05:26 PM
http://dexter.download-tvshows.com/sites/default/files/dexter20.jpg
i'll have a freezer full of looter meat.

gross!

torchbearer
09-17-2010, 06:38 PM
gross!

just removed your invite from my next BBQ.

oyarde
09-17-2010, 06:41 PM
just removed your invite from my next BBQ.

lol

Deborah K
09-17-2010, 06:58 PM
Go for it, I'm with Phill, and I have 10,000 rounds of one-shot one-kill ready to go with zero notice. :)

This ^

And one should never underestimate the beauty of boobie-traps and snares.....

Dr.3D
09-17-2010, 07:13 PM
This ^

And one should never underestimate the beauty of boobie-traps and snares.....

And they serve a double purpose too. With boobie-traps and snares, one may procure food and protect it as well.

knarfxii
09-18-2010, 10:36 PM
bump

knarfxii
09-19-2010, 11:46 AM
bump for free food!

pcosmar
09-19-2010, 11:53 AM
boobie-traps ??

http://files.myopera.com/clean/albums/430311/boobie%20Trap.jpg