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Brian4Liberty
09-10-2010, 12:59 PM
ATF agents posing as "Mexican citizens". Many gun dealers do "transfers", was this a sting based on complex or obscure regulations? Was this a "sale" or "transfer"? The story here contradicts itself.


A federal judge Friday denied setting a bail amount for a Modesto gun shop owner arrested Thursday on suspicion of selling guns illegally to undercover agents.
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Ronning, 42, was arrested on suspicion of illegal gun sales, including the unlawful transfers of unregistered gun silencers and a machine gun, according to the U.S. attorney's office in Sacramento.
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Federal prosecutors said Ronning sold two gun silencers, seven assault weapons and a machine gun to undercover agents and others posing as Mexican citizens without identification at the Yosemite Boulevard business.

On Thursday, agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives served search warrants at the business and Ronning's home, Stewart said.

He said the agents seized legally-registered guns that belong to Ronning and his wife. He declined to say what type of guns were seized.
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Rob Nielsen, a manager of Barnwood Arms gun shop in Ripon, said he has never heard of a licensed gun dealer in the Modesto area arrested for selling weapons illegally until now.

He said the employees at the Ripon business have never been propositioned to conduct an illegal sale before, so he doesn't understand how this could've happened.

"This just seems so weird to us," Nielsen said. "(Ronning) has always been a straight shooter."

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/09/03/3005283/judge-denies-bail-for-jailed-modesto.html

pcosmar
09-10-2010, 01:29 PM
Is this the same ATF that can't tell the difference between Airsoft and real firearms?

The same ATF that busted july4patriot for a "stolen grenade launcher" that he was acquitted on.

YouTube - ATF lawlessly seizes toy AirSoft Guns! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8LakMJ2Ok4)

Brian4Liberty
09-10-2010, 04:31 PM
Is this the same ATF that can't tell the difference between Airsoft and real firearms?


Lol! "Oh noes! They can be easily converted to real guns". I want to see the ATF guys fire those guns after they manage to fit real bullets in there...by the time those are converted to real guns, all you'll have left are the handles and grips. And if you fire fully auto the ones on the barrel might melt...unless they are already using real grips.