When / where will Ron announce for 2012? [Archive] - Ron Paul Forums

Matt Collins

09-10-2010, 12:19 PM

Looks like in 2007 Ron announced the exploratory committee on January 11th and then announced the full Presidential Campaign on March 12th.

Here are the relevant articles:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/MYSA031207_paul2008_EN_74141d9_html22655.html

http://capitolhub.com/video/7422/congressman-ron-paul-announces-presidential-run-while-taking-live-calls-c-span-full-video

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/local/stories/011207dntswpaul.2114595.html

Anyone care to speculate when / where it will be this time around?

Austrian Econ Disciple

09-10-2010, 12:30 PM

Shouldn't you know?

Flash

09-10-2010, 12:31 PM

I hope he announces on Glenn Beck and tries to appeal to the Tea Party movement from early on.

Elwar

09-10-2010, 12:32 PM

When he announces his exploratory committe, would he be able to use donations for that in his official campaign?

Elwar

09-10-2010, 12:33 PM

My guess:

January 7 (exploratory)

April 8 (candidacy) on the Tonight Show.

Matt Collins

09-10-2010, 12:35 PM

My guess:

January 7 (exploratory)

April 8 (candidacy) on the Tonight Show.
Why do you say that?

Elwar

09-10-2010, 12:39 PM

Why do you say that?

Jan. 7 because it's a Friday and he can go hit some big events over the weekend.

Apr. 8 because it's the Friday before April 15 (also a Friday) and we can set up a huge ass tax day Moneybomb/Tax protest the likes of which has never been seen before. Especially if they don't freeze the income taxes by 2011.

Matt Collins

09-10-2010, 12:46 PM

What about CPAC 2011?

Elwar

09-10-2010, 12:57 PM

What about CPAC 2011?

Looks like he's not even invited...yet.

aknappjr

09-10-2010, 01:26 PM

When he announces his exploratory committe, would he be able to use donations for that in his official campaign?

Yes. Donations to the exploratory committee, I'm told, also count as the $2400 max to the campaign.

Austin

09-10-2010, 03:45 PM

What about CPAC 2011?

Sounds good. He said the level of support will be important in his decision. Perhaps if he wins CPAC 2011 he will announce his run immediately or shortly thereafter.

Eric21ND

09-10-2010, 08:14 PM

He should announce sooner rather than later. January would be ideal.

Tinnuhana

09-11-2010, 12:49 AM

erowe1

09-11-2010, 07:06 AM

If we donate in junk silver, say, can we count it at face value? Kokesh had a "real money bomb" during his campaign. I think some things counted face value and some had to be valued by current market prices for silver...not sure I remember how it worked.

Interesting point. The only advantage would be for people who want to donate more than $2400, which I think would end up being a fairly small total amount of extra money raised. But I do think junk silver could be counted at face value.

One thing about it is that it would have to be a planned and publicized thing, so that donors know about the option being available to them, and campaign staffers know what to do with the junk silver when it comes in the mail. So if this scheme did garner a significant amount of money, it would draw the attention of rival campaigns and the FEC, which might result in unwanted hassles, even if it's legit.

european

09-11-2010, 07:46 AM

Not before November 2nd. First Rand has to be elected into the Senate.

Then maybe we will remember the 5th of November :D as the date dr. Paul announces he is running.

Which is right on time to hype the buzz for the moneybomb on December 16th. And then he will get that $10 million.

:)

UtahApocalypse

09-11-2010, 08:29 AM

Dec. 16th

S.Shorland

09-11-2010, 08:41 AM

Let's say I trust an American politician,even though I'm a foreigner. Could I just write them a check or make a wire transfer to their bank? Before they declared their candidacy?

erowe1

09-11-2010, 09:14 AM

Let's say I trust an American politician,even though I'm a foreigner. Could I just write them a check or make a wire transfer to their bank? Before they declared their candidacy?

You mean as a personal gift? Or as something with an expectation that they use it for campaigning?

If it's just a personal gift, then yeah, I'm pretty sure you can do that.

If it's for campaigning, then it's definitely illegal, and it would end up hurting them more than helping.

Maximus

09-11-2010, 02:15 PM

Disregard advice

Maximus

09-11-2010, 02:17 PM

What if he announced on the Daily Show? That'd be pretty cool, and alll media types watch that show

wormyguy

09-11-2010, 03:55 PM

He should announce it on Twitter. That way he would get all the media attention for a week.

Matt Collins

09-11-2010, 04:04 PM

Matt Collins

09-11-2010, 04:18 PM

Let's say I trust an American politician,even though I'm a foreigner. Could I just write them a check or make a wire transfer to their bank? Before they declared their candidacy?

Make a good American friend you trust, donate the money to them, and they can make the donation for you
That would be highly illegal and the FEC if they got wind of it would reign down destruction from the heavens. So in other words, don't even try it, Ron won't need your money that bad.

Austin

09-11-2010, 04:35 PM

Let's say I trust an American politician,even though I'm a foreigner. Could I just write them a check or make a wire transfer to their bank? Before they declared their candidacy?
Actually, I suggest donating money to great organizations like Young Americans for Liberty, who are identifying and engaging activists that will be able to refocus their activism toward Ron Paul's presidential campaign at the flip of a switch. I recommend looking at their most recent semester and annual report for their latest work (Available here (http://www.yaliberty.org/spring2010) and here (http://www.yaliberty.org/node/14117))

Beyond that, keep an eye on grassroots projects that popup during the election cycle. You can donate to their ChipIns.

bucfish

09-11-2010, 05:01 PM

He will announce at The Lincoln Memorial on 9/11/2011, LOL

Agorism

09-11-2010, 07:15 PM

I wonder if not getting invited to CPAC would actually play in his favor vs. winning it.

I'd say winning it would be better, but not getting invited would burn Paul supporters to anger.

Matt Collins

09-11-2010, 08:24 PM

I wonder if not getting invited to CPAC would actually play in his favor vs. winning it.

I'd say winning it would be better, but not getting invited would burn Paul supporters to anger.I don't think it's a matter of being invited, I think it's a matter of CFL dropping bank on ACU/CPAC :)

james1906

09-12-2010, 12:22 AM

March 2nd at the Alamo.

TheTyke

09-13-2010, 07:49 AM

Actually, I suggest donating money to great organizations like Young Americans for Liberty, who are identifying and engaging activists that will be able to refocus their activism toward Ron Paul's presidential campaign at the flip of a switch. I recommend looking at their most recent semester and annual report for their latest work (Available here (http://www.yaliberty.org/spring2010) and here (http://www.yaliberty.org/node/14117))

Beyond that, keep an eye on grassroots projects that popup during the election cycle. You can donate to their ChipIns.

I second this. After getting to see YAL in action when they came into the area, I was blown away by their effectiveness. They need the funding, and I know any investment their group will help them expand the already-impressive impact they're having!

Tinnuhana

11-06-2010, 04:20 AM

Back to an earlier post: RPH and Adam Kokesh ran a "Real Money Bomb" during the primary out there. They could give the details. They know the election rules for it, too.

Matt Collins

11-06-2010, 08:11 AM

YouTube - Ron Paul "Let the Revolution Begin" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDXKV3lO3fk&feature=player_embedded)

Quinn Rogness

11-06-2010, 03:51 PM

The CPAC website says Ron is invited.
http://www.conservative.org/cpac/

Natalie

11-06-2010, 04:13 PM

Kotin

11-06-2010, 04:22 PM

I predict just before CPAC.

Ha!

ItsTime

11-06-2010, 04:32 PM

The CPAC website says Ron is invited.
http://www.conservative.org/cpac/

No Ron Paul, no Rand Paul in the header... WTH is that?

TER

11-06-2010, 04:59 PM

My measly two cents...

I strongly believe Ron should announce on January 4th, the day after he is sworn in. He should schedule a press conference and make the announcement. Not every potential candidate is waiting to see when exactly Mitt throws his hat in or when exactly [fill in name here] makes the declaration, but I believe they are ALL waiting for when Ron Paul announces. He should be the first to announce, that way there can be no excuse for the media outlets and the others to not include him in this conference or that poll, etc. I think Ron suprising everyone by being the first to make an announcement will be to his strategic advantage, giving us and him plenty of time to spread the word and force people to compare him and his ideas to those who will announce after him.

Austrian Econ Disciple

11-06-2010, 05:00 PM

That CPAC list is 20 Statists to one libertarian. Lol. I doubt anyone who likes Ron will stay for anyone elses speech there. All horrendous.

Matt Collins

11-06-2010, 07:28 PM

I strongly believe Ron should announce on January 4th, the day after he is sworn in. That would be the best birthday present I could have :D

Joseph

11-08-2010, 01:06 PM

We need to convince him to run, if he decides not to run all this is pointless. Please mail Ron Paul a letter letting him know how you have been inspired by his message and encourage him to run in 2012. We need him representing us in those debates and on that ballet. Ron Paul is the only one who truly represents the people and the Constitution, please show him that we need him.

Matt Collins

11-08-2010, 02:02 PM

Please mail Ron Paul a letter letting him know how you have been inspired by his message and encourage him to run in 2012. We need him representing us in those debates and on that ballet. Ron Paul is the only one who truly represents the people and the Constitution, please show him that we need him.He's running, it's just a matter of when he announces.

Agorism

11-08-2010, 03:31 PM

YouTube - Ron Paul After the Straw Poll (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2NdkgrDXno)

Let's win Iowa Straw Poll this year

Wesley123

11-08-2010, 03:39 PM

The best thing that could happen to this country could be Ron Paul announcing his candidacy for the presidency. If he doesn't, we'll just have to draft him.

Kotin

11-08-2010, 03:45 PM

The best thing that could happen to this country could be Ron Paul announcing his candidacy for the presidency. If he doesn't, we'll just have to draft him.

I like your attitude.. But I would not worry about it.. He's running.

Maximus

11-08-2010, 04:59 PM

I think his book will be a fantastic attribute for the campaign, people will pick it up out of curioristy/learn about Ron.

nate895

11-08-2010, 05:41 PM

The best thing that could happen to this country could be Ron Paul announcing his candidacy for the presidency. If he doesn't, we'll just have to draft him.

You actually can do that in the primaries. In caucus states, you do not have to file a run to begin with, and so a draft could be conducted there. Eisenhower beat Taft in the NH primary despite not actually running for President, or even saying whether he was a Republican or Democrat.

K466

11-09-2010, 11:28 AM

I hope it is sooner rather than later

PermanentSleep

11-09-2010, 11:46 AM

Every day I wish it were the day.

LibertyMage

11-09-2010, 12:29 PM

To understand the best answer to this question, we should be thinking about how presidential campaigns work politically.

Campaigns are a build up of pressure by political narratives. If we want to be successful in this campaign, we should be asking ourselves this question:

How do we make Ron Paul the Tea Party Candidate? How do we create that narrative?

As soon as possible is the worst possible answer.

The Dark Knight

11-09-2010, 01:08 PM

Much like Rand Paul did in Kentuky, Ron must run as a leader in the Tea Party movement. WE have a huge advantage in that we can make a serious claim to the Tea Party while Romney and Huckabee will splilt the votes up among the Moderate Republicans. Sarah Palin kinda creates a problem in that she may take some Tea Party support away from the good Doctor. Other then that we do need to really campaign hard among the Tea Party.
I think he should announce either at CPAC 2011 or on Gleen Beck on live TV in front of 2 million plus viewers. (regardless of what you think of Beck, its politically smart)

LibertyMage

11-09-2010, 01:35 PM

Much like Rand Paul did in Kentuky, Ron must run as a leader in the Tea Party movement.

Correct.

...Romney and Huckabee will splilt the votes up among the Moderate Republicans.

Incorrect. To win the GOP nomination, candidates will have to resonate with the Tea Parties. The Tea Parties will decide the victor. Our narrative must be "Ron Paul IS the Tea Party".

The Dark Knight

11-09-2010, 05:10 PM

you dont think Huckabee and Romney will split up the votes of the moderates? I hope they do. That means if the Tea Party can rally behind one candidate (Ron Paul) he has a very good chance of winning. This is where Palin comes in as a problem because she also will be somewhat popular among the tea Party.

LibertyMage

11-09-2010, 06:33 PM