Burning bibles

[Liberty4life]

What would be said if churches started burning bibles?

[DamianTV]

Woot! Party like its 1699!

[virgil47]

So you're for burning bibles but not koran's. Can you say dhimmi?

[Sola_Fide]

What would be said if churches started burning bibles?


If they own the Bibles, then they could definitely burn them. Especially if it was especially cold outside and for some reason they couldn't find wood to burn in the case of a power outtage.


My copy of the Bible and the other copies of the Bible are not God Himself. The print on the pages of a book are not Deity.

[lucius]

What would be said if churches started burning bibles?

Why not...hell let's burn all the books as we de-evolve:

If Jesus Christ were to come today, people would not even crucify him. They would ask him to dinner, and hear what he had to say, and make fun of him.
- Thomas Carlyle (1795 - 1881)

The block of granite, which was an obstacle in the path of the weak, becomes a stepping stone in the path of the strong.
- Thomas Carlyle

[puppetmaster]

buy stock in the book publishers......whoo hoo they needed a new bubble here it comes!!

[DamianTV]

So you're for burning bibles but not koran's. Can you say dhimmi?

Naa, burn the Koran too! And the flag, my algebra homework, and anything else that I feel like, as long as it is MY property.

WTF is a dihimmi, and why should I care?:rolleyes:

[TC95]

WTF is a dihimmi, and why should I care?:rolleyes:

I didn't know what it was either. I had to look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

[DamianTV]

So I just got downgraded to illegal immigrant status because I reject religion? Thats pretty cold.

[nate895]

I'd bet that somewhere in the world right now, someone is burning a Bible. I am not going to riot and kill somebody over it, unlike the religion of perpetual rage.

Edit: Both sides in this petty controversy are acting like immature children. I expect to see this kind of behavior from five-year-olds.

"I am going to burn your religion's holy book," says immature Christian.

"Oh, yeah, well I am going to rampage around the school and burn all of your classmate's toys because you are burning my holy book, even though your classmates have nothing to do with this, and most of 'em are not even Christian anyway," says five-year-old Muslim.

[bruce leeroy]

bible paper can be used to roll joints......its thin enough and burns correctly

[tangent4ronpaul]

I would love to see the look on that priest face who's doing the Koran burn if someone announced they were going to do a Bible burn at the same time and day, because he was burning Korans...

I bet he'd have a cow!

-t

[Liberty4life]

Personally I'm for trying it just to see what happens.

On a side note could this be a setup?
If its going to cause so much trouble like they are saying
why not say its in the national interest not to do it.
Freedom of expression is trumped by national security?
Why wouldn't they?

BECAUSE THEY WANT THIS!

Lets do a bible burning bomb.

[BlackTerrel]

Jews burn bibles (http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=jews+burn+bibles&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=f42cedd875d403c4)

Muslims burn bibles (http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=muslims+burn+bibles&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=f42cedd875d403c4)

It's happened before it will happen again. So fucking what?

This event has been condemned by everyone from Glenn Beck to the state department, to the military, to Ron Paul and Angelina Jolie. Obama basically offered to suck the guys dick if he wouldn't go through with it. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_quran_burning_obama_plea)

At some point enough is enough. I am tired of hearing that WWIII is about to be upon us just because some idiot "Pastor" in Florida with a 50 member Church burns a Koran. So effing what?

[Lib111]

Nutty Pastor Terry Jones.
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=12450&title=a-closer-look-at-pastor-terry-jones


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Orthodox Jewish youths burn New Testaments …

http://www.haaretz.com/news/orthodox-jewish-youths-burn-new-testaments-in-or-yehuda-1.246153


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[libertybrewcity]

Surprisingly, I don't think the Koran burning as hurt Republicans at all. Maybe there will be a surge in the Arab American vote that will overcome the Republican vote because of it.

[JK/SEA]

Just write the word KORAN on a piece of paper and burn it, and see what happens. Can't wait for saturday.....>yawn<

[oyarde]

I didn't know what it was either. I had to look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

It means second class citizen .

[oyarde]

Naa, burn the Koran too! And the flag, my algebra homework, and anything else that I feel like, as long as it is MY property.

WTF is a dihimmi, and why should I care?:rolleyes:

The algebra homework makes more sense to me .

[lucius]

Naa, burn the Koran too! And the flag, my algebra homework, and anything else that I feel like, as long as it is MY property.

WTF is a dihimmi, and why should I care?:rolleyes:

Yes, yes, burn baby burn... :D

[tangent4ronpaul]

Tune into FOX news for details

-t

[MelissaWV]

Tune into FOX news for details

-t

It was supposedly called off due to there being a deal made to move the NYC Mosque. The NYC Mosque guy made a statement that there's no deal and he doesn't know wtf Jones is talking about. Now Jones is scrambling around the Dove World lawn and figuring out what to say next.

As I said in another thread, I'd be more inclined to think that, if it stays called off, it has more to do with the city's threat to charge him for security services. Of course, the security and checkpoint are staying in place even if there is no book burning.

[oyarde]

It was supposedly called off due to there being a deal made to move the NYC Mosque. The NYC Mosque guy made a statement that there's no deal and he doesn't know wtf Jones is talking about. Now Jones is scrambling around the Dove World lawn and figuring out what to say next.

As I said in another thread, I'd be more inclined to think that, if it stays called off, it has more to do with the city's threat to charge him for security services. Of course, the security and checkpoint are staying in place even if there is no book burning.

Melissa , will the city bill him anyway ?

[tangent4ronpaul]

Considering that Muslims have been worshiping at that location for over a year this is over the NANNY STATE "blessing" of it being an official religious facility. :rolleyes:

MOMMY PLEASE! - BARF!

-t

[MelissaWV]

Melissa , will the city bill him anyway ?

Doubtful. The guy's finances were in the shitter, anyhow; the byte I heard on the radio was talking about a $40,000 bill for security, etc.. The local news showed the FBI had been in town to brief Jones and his followers.

This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen.

[oyarde]

Doubtful. The guy's finances were in the shitter, anyhow; the byte I heard on the radio was talking about a $40,000 bill for security, etc.. The local news showed the FBI had been in town to brief Jones and his followers.

This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen.

I agree it has to rate high on the dumb list . They would care if he was broke ? or would they put a lien against the property ?

[keepitlow]

What would be said if churches started burning bibles?

Islam?

Christian?

It is all mythology.

Politicians love religion cause it gives the poor and downtrodden (they like to keep under their thumbs) some hope for everlasting joy in a mythical heaven. As the politicians and rich that fund the politicians rape and pillage the working class, religion dangles a carrot in front of them that the believer quite never gets a bite of.

Humans need gods since we have the brains we do it makes it tough to go through life without some heavenly hope when we die. I was trying to get that point across to my old Mom the other day when she asked me to pray for her. Told her that praying does no good. She said she couldn't get though life without her god.

She has about thirty something pictures of Jesus on her fridge and numerous angels....yet she is one of the most miserable and unhappy people I know? Maybe she just needs one or two more photos of Jesus to fix her?

We don't need science to prove god a delusion, just look at what the contacts of gods have written about their deities.

When it comes to faith...faith must always be based on the fact of a 'first see-er' or 'first contact' that is telling the truth.

We do not come up with ideas to base faith on all on our own. All religious faith is based on someone else's reports. If this persons report is based on lies, than the faith must evaporate.

The major religions of the world are mainly based on one person's report of contact with a deity. Yet all their story's conflict and contradict?

Jews...Moses...

Went up the mountain and is popularly thought to have come down with 10 commandments. Wrong...try 613 commandments. God communicated extensively with the Hebrews on an almost daily basis is seems. Yahweh directed them specifically with how to design and build things, how to worship him through burnt offerings and penance and who to murder. God instructed them to discriminate against the handicapped. God was very detailed with his directions about unclean women during menses and how the Hebrews should keep their slaves. And of course, the constant orders to kill, kill, kill...from killing one's children to killing homosexuals to killing the parents of young virgins so the religious devotees could round up a harem of sex slaves. (see end of post for quotes.)

Christians...Paul...

Here is the thing about Jesus. Throughout history NO ONE that ever wrote about Jesus ever met Jesus. Jesus started with Paul's visualization or dream of Jesus decades after Jesus' life and death and it all mushroomed from there. EVERYONE that wrote about Jesus did so conveniently decades after his supposed life and death. Most Christians think the gospels were written by the disciples or men that met Jesus...FALSE! Jesus born of December 25? FALSE! Just a fantasy they Christians came up with in the 4th century to steal the solstice holiday away from the pagans. Trinity? Just more man-made spin that they voted on 'to approve' what god meant at the First Council of Nicaea in the 3rd century. Imagine that...man voting on approving god...what utter bullshit. In the middle ages indulgences were sold by the greedy church. Yes, if you had some money you could buy your way into heaven . Well, things have not changed much over the centuries. The church makes up the rules as it goes, like all man made religions do.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/faithvalues/2003675522_limbo21.html

Muslims...Mohammed...

Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet, but not god. And for those that do not know, Allah is the same god as Yahweh or 'god the father' of the Christians. Islam believes the Jews had an earlier, imperfect version in the Torah. The Koran is corrected, and ONLY perfect word of god. It must be all true...after all, god told Mohammed so. Have doubts? Too bad for you..."kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Qur'an:9:5

Mormons...Joseph Smith...

Angel Moroni gave Joseph Smith magic glasses that allowed him to translate golden plates that proved Jesus visited North America to share his gospel with the Indians. Smith also believed that the 'Garden of Eden' was in Missouri.

Buddhists...Siddhartha Gautama...

A reformed Hindu ascetic. Siddhartha gave up on the belief in 'self' in favor of 'no-self'. Unfortunately this no-self must come back to suffer samsara until no-self can get to Buddhists heaven of Nirvana. Buddha also gave up beliefs in all the crazy gods of the Hindus. But the latter day Buddhists couldn't resist adding the freaky gods right back in. And the Pure Land Buddhists even made Buddha a god that had the power to whisk them off to Nirvana once they died. But human ego's being what they are, the Purelanders were split into 2 factions - the 'self powered' and 'other powered' schools. It seems no one can settle the dispute between them...should they chant the name of Buddha one time to be saved ('self powered') or do they have to chant the name of Buddha incessantly day and night to be lucky enough to catch Buddha's attention with their last breath! ('other powered')

Haiti....Voodoo...

Although about 80% of Haiti identifies themselves as Christian, they have an underlying belief in voodoo. Voodoo has too many magik beliefs to cover here. But the main belief is this. When a person dies they disappear underwater for a year and a day. Then they come back to life for 8 times as a man and 8 times as a woman before perfecting themselves enough to become one with their god.

Mankind is predisposed to create gods...148 pages of them. Roughly 5756 gods!

http://www.godfinder.org/

The majority of people run their life by 'wishful thinking' and delusions. One poll said 98% of the people believe in a god, a human soul, karma or an afterlife. Yet there has never been a shred of proof to support any of these theories.

You see, many people do with religion and their religious fixations the same as the compulsive gambler does with their fantasy.

Excerpt From: Gamblers Anonymous pamphlet

"The dream world of a compulsive gambler." A lot of time is spent creating images of great and wonderful things they are going to do as soon as they make "the big win."... No one can convince them that their great schemes will not come true. They believe they will, for without this dream world, life for them would not be tolerable.
See:

http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=133.0

I'll leave you with some of Yahweh's / Allah's / God the Father's loving word...

Eat your son's and daughters: "I will see to it that your enemies lay siege to the city until all the food is gone. Then those trapped inside will have to eat their own sons and daughters and friends. They will be driven to utter despair." (Jeremiah 19:6-9 NLT)

God kills 185,000: "The angel of the Lord went forth and struck down one hundred and eighty-five thousand in the Assyrian camp. Early the next morning they were there, all the corpses of the dead. " (Isaiah 37:36 NAB)

God holds a grudge: "They may try to rebuild, but I will demolish them again! Their country will be known as 'The Land of Wickedness,' and their people will be called 'The People with Whom the LORD Is Forever Angry.'" (Malachi 1:2-4 NLT)

Gods unquenchable anger: "So the Sovereign LORD says: "I will pour out my terrible fury on this place. Its people, animals, trees, and crops will be consumed by the unquenchable fire of my anger." (Jeremiah 7:20 NLT)

Mass killings: "They will bury so many bodies in Topheth that there won't be room for all the graves. The corpses of my people will be food for the vultures and wild animals, and no one will be left to scare them away. I will put an end to the happy singing and laughter in the streets of Jerusalem. The joyful voices of bridegrooms and brides will no longer be heard in the towns of Judah. The land will lie in complete desolation." (Jeremiah 7:32-34 NLT)

Makes a joke out of killing: "A third of your people will die in the city from famine and disease. A third of them will be slaughtered by the enemy outside the city walls. And I will scatter a third to the winds and chase them with my sword. Then at last my anger will be spent, and I will be satisfied. And when my fury against them has subsided, all Israel will know that I, the LORD, have spoken to them in my jealous anger. "So I will turn you into a ruin, a mockery in the eyes of the surrounding nations and to everyone who travels by. You will become an object of mockery and taunting and horror. You will be a warning to all the nations around you. They will see what happens when the LORD turns against a nation in furious rebuke. I, the LORD, have spoken! " (Ezekiel 5:11-15)

Carry away people with fish hooks: "Behold, the days are coming upon you When they will take you away with meat hooks, And the last of you with fish hooks. You will go out {through} breaches {in the walls,} Each one straight before her, And you will be cast to Harmon, declares the LORD." (Amos 4:1-3 NAS)

Slavery OK: "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property." Exodus 21:20-21 NAB

Discrimination: "No child of an incestuous union may be admitted into the community of the Lord, nor any descendant of his even to the tenth generation." (Deuteronomy 23:3 NAB)

No handicapped allowed: "No one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut off may be admitted into the community of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:2 NAB)

Kill your sons: "Suppose a man has a stubborn, rebellious son who will not obey his father or mother, even though they discipline him. Then all the men of the town must stone him to death. In this way, you will cleanse this evil from among you, and all Israel will hear about it and be afraid." (Deuteronomy 21:18-21 NLT)

Eat your son's and daughters 2: "He brought down upon us evils so great that there has not been done anywhere under heaven what has been done in Jerusalem, as was written in the law of Moses: that one after another of us should eat the flesh of his son or of his daughter." (Baruch 2:1-4 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals: "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Slavery is OK: "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ." (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Kill them all...except the virgins: "Now kill all the men, boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

Have you ever asked yourself how god could have been so vocal giving the Jews 613 commandments, almost talking with them daily ... and now no one hears a peep from god?

613 commandments
http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm

...anyway, it is all in the bible...read it!

http://www.evilbible.com/

People always ask me to pray for this or that from god. Going back to godfinder, I always wonder which of the 5756 gods they want me to pray to? But all joking aside. What does it say about a perfect god that is all knowing and all loving that needs to have his / her / its mind changed by an imperfect human groveling enough? A god that takes delight in torturing its creation until enough begging has been done?

And in the big picture...what would make us think we know better than the perfect god running things? Why would we wish to change perfection? Yet we cling to the notion of prayer as it makes us feel like we have power.

A proper atheist does not believe in gods or anything supernatural and unproven. No karma, no soul, no nothing they can't get a grip on, feel, see, touch or taste.

If we look at what was written about Yahweh, we can determine it does not add up and Yahweh is a myth and Jesus too. And even if Yahweh was for real - who would want to worship such a hateful and evil god as that?

But we humans do not know everything under the sun. We may have a soul or some other supernatural aspect we know nothing about. There may be some aspect of intelligent design. Aliens may have dropped of a pair of us eons ago and it all blossomed from there...who knows?

There is also that burning question of why humans are so different from all other species? Sure we can pin it on evo, but what singled our species out for it? That is why I am an agnostic...just don't have the answers to all the questions.

But there is no proof for any of these theories, other than wishful thinking / speculation. And if push comes to shove...I side with the atheists for being right.

[Liberty4life]

What would be said if churches started burning bibles?
??

[lucius]

Dude, atheism is just another tool of the Banksters' Luciferian agenda...

Buy a vowel and start hating on the Babylonian Talmud--spread your love around... :D

ps: Are you a tool or do you actually believe this shit/large-cut-paste below?


Islam?

Christian?

It is all mythology.

Politicians love religion cause it gives the poor and downtrodden (they like to keep under their thumbs) some hope for everlasting joy in a mythical heaven. As the politicians and rich that fund the politicians rape and pillage the working class, religion dangles a carrot in front of them that the believer quite never gets a bite of.

Humans need gods since we have the brains we do it makes it tough to go through life without some heavenly hope when we die. I was trying to get that point across to my old Mom the other day when she asked me to pray for her. Told her that praying does no good. She said she couldn't get though life without her god.

She has about thirty something pictures of Jesus on her fridge and numerous angels....yet she is one of the most miserable and unhappy people I know? Maybe she just needs one or two more photos of Jesus to fix her?

We don't need science to prove god a delusion, just look at what the contacts of gods have written about their deities.

When it comes to faith...faith must always be based on the fact of a 'first see-er' or 'first contact' that is telling the truth.

We do not come up with ideas to base faith on all on our own. All religious faith is based on someone else's reports. If this persons report is based on lies, than the faith must evaporate.

The major religions of the world are mainly based on one person's report of contact with a deity. Yet all their story's conflict and contradict?

Jews...Moses...

Went up the mountain and is popularly thought to have come down with 10 commandments. Wrong...try 613 commandments. God communicated extensively with the Hebrews on an almost daily basis is seems. Yahweh directed them specifically with how to design and build things, how to worship him through burnt offerings and penance and who to murder. God instructed them to discriminate against the handicapped. God was very detailed with his directions about unclean women during menses and how the Hebrews should keep their slaves. And of course, the constant orders to kill, kill, kill...from killing one's children to killing homosexuals to killing the parents of young virgins so the religious devotees could round up a harem of sex slaves. (see end of post for quotes.)

Christians...Paul...

Here is the thing about Jesus. Throughout history NO ONE that ever wrote about Jesus ever met Jesus. Jesus started with Paul's visualization or dream of Jesus decades after Jesus' life and death and it all mushroomed from there. EVERYONE that wrote about Jesus did so conveniently decades after his supposed life and death. Most Christians think the gospels were written by the disciples or men that met Jesus...FALSE! Jesus born of December 25? FALSE! Just a fantasy they Christians came up with in the 4th century to steal the solstice holiday away from the pagans. Trinity? Just more man-made spin that they voted on 'to approve' what god meant at the First Council of Nicaea in the 3rd century. Imagine that...man voting on approving god...what utter bullshit. In the middle ages indulgences were sold by the greedy church. Yes, if you had some money you could buy your way into heaven . Well, things have not changed much over the centuries. The church makes up the rules as it goes, like all man made religions do.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/faithvalues/2003675522_limbo21.html

Muslims...Mohammed...

Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet, but not god. And for those that do not know, Allah is the same god as Yahweh or 'god the father' of the Christians. Islam believes the Jews had an earlier, imperfect version in the Torah. The Koran is corrected, and ONLY perfect word of god. It must be all true...after all, god told Mohammed so. Have doubts? Too bad for you..."kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Qur'an:9:5

Mormons...Joseph Smith...

Angel Moroni gave Joseph Smith magic glasses that allowed him to translate golden plates that proved Jesus visited North America to share his gospel with the Indians. Smith also believed that the 'Garden of Eden' was in Missouri.

Buddhists...Siddhartha Gautama...

A reformed Hindu ascetic. Siddhartha gave up on the belief in 'self' in favor of 'no-self'. Unfortunately this no-self must come back to suffer samsara until no-self can get to Buddhists heaven of Nirvana. Buddha also gave up beliefs in all the crazy gods of the Hindus. But the latter day Buddhists couldn't resist adding the freaky gods right back in. And the Pure Land Buddhists even made Buddha a god that had the power to whisk them off to Nirvana once they died. But human ego's being what they are, the Purelanders were split into 2 factions - the 'self powered' and 'other powered' schools. It seems no one can settle the dispute between them...should they chant the name of Buddha one time to be saved ('self powered') or do they have to chant the name of Buddha incessantly day and night to be lucky enough to catch Buddha's attention with their last breath! ('other powered')

Haiti....Voodoo...

Although about 80% of Haiti identifies themselves as Christian, they have an underlying belief in voodoo. Voodoo has too many magik beliefs to cover here. But the main belief is this. When a person dies they disappear underwater for a year and a day. Then they come back to life for 8 times as a man and 8 times as a woman before perfecting themselves enough to become one with their god.

Mankind is predisposed to create gods...148 pages of them. Roughly 5756 gods!

http://www.godfinder.org/

The majority of people run their life by 'wishful thinking' and delusions. One poll said 98% of the people believe in a god, a human soul, karma or an afterlife. Yet there has never been a shred of proof to support any of these theories.

You see, many people do with religion and their religious fixations the same as the compulsive gambler does with their fantasy.

Excerpt From: Gamblers Anonymous pamphlet

"The dream world of a compulsive gambler." A lot of time is spent creating images of great and wonderful things they are going to do as soon as they make "the big win."... No one can convince them that their great schemes will not come true. They believe they will, for without this dream world, life for them would not be tolerable.
See:

http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=133.0

I'll leave you with some of Yahweh's / Allah's / God the Father's loving word...

Eat your son's and daughters: "I will see to it that your enemies lay siege to the city until all the food is gone. Then those trapped inside will have to eat their own sons and daughters and friends. They will be driven to utter despair." (Jeremiah 19:6-9 NLT)

God kills 185,000: "The angel of the Lord went forth and struck down one hundred and eighty-five thousand in the Assyrian camp. Early the next morning they were there, all the corpses of the dead. " (Isaiah 37:36 NAB)

God holds a grudge: "They may try to rebuild, but I will demolish them again! Their country will be known as 'The Land of Wickedness,' and their people will be called 'The People with Whom the LORD Is Forever Angry.'" (Malachi 1:2-4 NLT)

Gods unquenchable anger: "So the Sovereign LORD says: "I will pour out my terrible fury on this place. Its people, animals, trees, and crops will be consumed by the unquenchable fire of my anger." (Jeremiah 7:20 NLT)

Mass killings: "They will bury so many bodies in Topheth that there won't be room for all the graves. The corpses of my people will be food for the vultures and wild animals, and no one will be left to scare them away. I will put an end to the happy singing and laughter in the streets of Jerusalem. The joyful voices of bridegrooms and brides will no longer be heard in the towns of Judah. The land will lie in complete desolation." (Jeremiah 7:32-34 NLT)

Makes a joke out of killing: "A third of your people will die in the city from famine and disease. A third of them will be slaughtered by the enemy outside the city walls. And I will scatter a third to the winds and chase them with my sword. Then at last my anger will be spent, and I will be satisfied. And when my fury against them has subsided, all Israel will know that I, the LORD, have spoken to them in my jealous anger. "So I will turn you into a ruin, a mockery in the eyes of the surrounding nations and to everyone who travels by. You will become an object of mockery and taunting and horror. You will be a warning to all the nations around you. They will see what happens when the LORD turns against a nation in furious rebuke. I, the LORD, have spoken! " (Ezekiel 5:11-15)

Carry away people with fish hooks: "Behold, the days are coming upon you When they will take you away with meat hooks, And the last of you with fish hooks. You will go out {through} breaches {in the walls,} Each one straight before her, And you will be cast to Harmon, declares the LORD." (Amos 4:1-3 NAS)

Slavery OK: "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property." Exodus 21:20-21 NAB

Discrimination: "No child of an incestuous union may be admitted into the community of the Lord, nor any descendant of his even to the tenth generation." (Deuteronomy 23:3 NAB)

No handicapped allowed: "No one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut off may be admitted into the community of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:2 NAB)

Kill your sons: "Suppose a man has a stubborn, rebellious son who will not obey his father or mother, even though they discipline him. Then all the men of the town must stone him to death. In this way, you will cleanse this evil from among you, and all Israel will hear about it and be afraid." (Deuteronomy 21:18-21 NLT)

Eat your son's and daughters 2: "He brought down upon us evils so great that there has not been done anywhere under heaven what has been done in Jerusalem, as was written in the law of Moses: that one after another of us should eat the flesh of his son or of his daughter." (Baruch 2:1-4 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals: "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Slavery is OK: "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ." (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Kill them all...except the virgins: "Now kill all the men, boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

Have you ever asked yourself how god could have been so vocal giving the Jews 613 commandments, almost talking with them daily ... and now no one hears a peep from god?

613 commandments
http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm

...anyway, it is all in the bible...read it!

http://www.evilbible.com/

People always ask me to pray for this or that from god. Going back to godfinder, I always wonder which of the 5756 gods they want me to pray to? But all joking aside. What does it say about a perfect god that is all knowing and all loving that needs to have his / her / its mind changed by an imperfect human groveling enough? A god that takes delight in torturing its creation until enough begging has been done?

And in the big picture...what would make us think we know better than the perfect god running things? Why would we wish to change perfection? Yet we cling to the notion of prayer as it makes us feel like we have power.

A proper atheist does not believe in gods or anything supernatural and unproven. No karma, no soul, no nothing they can't get a grip on, feel, see, touch or taste.

If we look at what was written about Yahweh, we can determine it does not add up and Yahweh is a myth and Jesus too. And even if Yahweh was for real - who would want to worship such a hateful and evil god as that?

But we humans do not know everything under the sun. We may have a soul or some other supernatural aspect we know nothing about. There may be some aspect of intelligent design. Aliens may have dropped of a pair of us eons ago and it all blossomed from there...who knows?

There is also that burning question of why humans are so different from all other species? Sure we can pin it on evo, but what singled our species out for it? That is why I am an agnostic...just don't have the answers to all the questions.

But there is no proof for any of these theories, other than wishful thinking / speculation. And if push comes to shove...I side with the atheists for being right.

[MelissaWV]

I agree it has to rate high on the dumb list . They would care if he was broke ? or would they put a lien against the property ?

They were trying to sell the place in the summer, and got no takers. Their sign is busted, their trailer has a big ding in it, and they have 30-50 members. I don't even think their eBay furniture business is doing well. Even if he makes a good deal from the book-selling, I doubt he'd have $40,000 to spare. If they did all this and put a lien on his property, it would just extend his 15 minutes out towards the infinite horizon. Martyr me this, Batman: if he repents and burns nothing, but gets billed/threatened anyhow, won't he be seen as unlawfully persecuted? He will have done nothing wrong, technically.

The dumbness is spreading, though. The MSM reports I've seen are all about this guy for about 5-10 minutes. Then, right afterwards, they do a report on whether or not the media is making too big a deal about it, which lasts another 3-5 minutes.

~This is the song that never ends...~