Alex Jones ABC Nightline Interview

[Zatch]

YouTube - Alex Jones Nightline Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUUND959uek)

[libertybrewcity]

interesting.

[Ekrub]

Spencer Pratt is an Alex Jones fan hahaha.

I sympathize with people are generally distrustful of the government but AJ is an egomaniac capitalizing off of the fear of a growing federal government. I enjoy watching his movies for a laugh, but not anything more.

[Kludge]

Spencer Pratt is an Alex Jones fan hahaha.

I sympathize with people are generally distrustful of the government but AJ is an egomaniac capitalizing off of the fear of a growing federal government. I enjoy watching his movies for a laugh, but not anything more.

This. I was particularly fond of when AJ & his employees "smashed the wall of tyranny." (They smashed up a wall put up in their office)

I can never seem to find that clip, though.

[NiceGoing]

Spencer Pratt is an Alex Jones fan hahaha.

I sympathize with people are generally distrustful of the government but AJ is an egomaniac capitalizing off of the fear of a growing federal government. I enjoy watching his movies for a laugh, but not anything more.

What continues to interest me is "where does he get all that inside information from"? - it's a very disturbing questions, in its implications, I think.
Does he have a pipeline to the (self-styled) elitists??

[dannno]

Spencer Pratt is an Alex Jones fan hahaha.

I sympathize with people are generally distrustful of the government but AJ is an egomaniac capitalizing off of the fear of a growing federal government. I enjoy watching his movies for a laugh, but not anything more.

That's really a shame you have that attitude because there is a ton of valuable information in his films.. and he is often the only person emphasizing and breaking stories related to liberty. Recently they have started to pick him up on Drudge on occasion.

I agree AJ is a little bit of an ego maniac and likes to exaggerate sometimes, but he is EXTREMELY valuable, I am sorry you aren't able to see why.

[dannno]

What continues to interest me is "where does he get all that inside information from"? - it's a very disturbing questions, in its implications, I think.
Does he have a pipeline to the (self-styled) elitists??

He gets it from the news.. its all out there, but the news has a narrative that they are constantly running and so they emphasize articles that go along with the narrative while sweeping the others under the rug. AJ reports the stories that get swept under the rug.

[NiceGoing]

Ah. Thanks....

[Seraphim]

That's really a shame you have that attitude because there is a ton of valuable information in his films.. and he is often the only person emphasizing and breaking stories related to liberty. Recently they have started to pick him up on Drudge on occasion.

I agree AJ is a little bit of an ego maniac and likes to exaggerate sometimes, but he is EXTREMELY valuable, I am sorry you aren't able to see why.

Unfortunately I think he is a cop out version of William Cooper. I think Alex Jones is a paid psy ops. I could be wrong- but something smells "fishy" about him. I agree, A LOT of what he says is very valuable. But my radar for "something is off" starts to beep when it comes to Alex Jones.

[Ekrub]

That's really a shame you have that attitude because there is a ton of valuable information in his films.. and he is often the only person emphasizing and breaking stories related to liberty. Recently they have started to pick him up on Drudge on occasion.

I agree AJ is a little bit of an ego maniac and likes to exaggerate sometimes, but he is EXTREMELY valuable, I am sorry you aren't able to see why.

I don't understand how you think he is extremely valuable. Outside of the liberty movement/ conspiracy theorists no one knows who Alex Jones is. He does dig up some good stuff SOMETIMES, but he loses credibility when he stretches to make a story fit his nutjob conspiracy theories.

And I don't understand his obsession with Bilderberg/CFR/Illuminati whatever... most the people who attend those meetings are washed up has-beens, not the mover and shakers of today. While I do think that there is a push towards globalization, it isn't as sinister as he makes it out to be. Its just misguided.

[A Son of Liberty]

Oh the guy is an opportunist. Come on... didn't you guys watch Police State? "TEH REPUBLICK IZ FALLING B4 OUR EYZ!"

lol

[dannno]

I don't understand how you think he is extremely valuable. Outside of the liberty movement/ conspiracy theorists no one knows who Alex Jones is. He does dig up some good stuff SOMETIMES, but he loses credibility when he stretches to make a story fit his nutjob conspiracy theories.

Actually he picks up a lot of people because they realize he is telling them the truth. If he loses them, then he never really had them to begin with.



And I don't understand his obsession with Bilderberg/CFR/Illuminati whatever...


Then maybe you should study them more.




most the people who attend those meetings are washed up has-beens, not the mover and shakers of today.

No, the "washed up has-beens" who attend the meetings are the ones who control the people who you believe are the movers and shakers in the public sphere. They are the 'elders' so to speak. You just don't understand how they work. Once you get high enough up and do enough good work for them, you can begin to leave the public sphere, which is a fairly dangerous place to be in. Not to mention it is a bit more work.




While I do think that there is a push towards globalization, it isn't as sinister as he makes it out to be. Its just misguided.

What you have to realize is that most of the people who believe and preach globalization do actually believe it, and for them it is not sinister. That doesn't mean that the people who allow them to operate the public sphere aren't watching them and ensuring that people who they have placed there aren't touting their agenda, whether they really believe it or not. Even some of the people watching them might actually believe what they are saying. But in the end, the organization as a whole is sinister and there are many sinister individuals who run and control the operation.

[dannno]

Oh the guy is an opportunist. Come on... didn't you guys watch Police State? "TEH REPUBLICK IZ FALLING B4 OUR EYZ!"

lol

I didn't realize it wasn't :confused:

[lucius]

Spencer Pratt is an Alex Jones fan hahaha.

I sympathize with people are generally distrustful of the government but AJ is an egomaniac capitalizing off of the fear of a growing federal government. I enjoy watching his movies for a laugh, but not anything more.

Maybe more, as AJ gains traction within the mainstream media...ideas are sterling, men may often fail you.

Palin/Beck are other such creations as well...we are always given our choices in our new period of dialectic materialistic secular humanism...Alan Watt touches upon this.

[sratiug]

I don't understand how you think he is extremely valuable. Outside of the liberty movement/ conspiracy theorists no one knows who Alex Jones is. He does dig up some good stuff SOMETIMES, but he loses credibility when he stretches to make a story fit his nutjob conspiracy theories.

And I don't understand his obsession with Bilderberg/CFR/Illuminati whatever... most the people who attend those meetings are washed up has-beens, not the mover and shakers of today. While I do think that there is a push towards globalization, it isn't as sinister as he makes it out to be. Its just misguided.

Have you read the Creature From Jekyll Island? The Council on Foreign Relations is an insturment of world government, that is it's entire purpose. It is as anti-American an organization as has ever existed. There is no reason not to be concerned since it's only purpose is to destroy our republic. Everyone on these forums needs to understand this.

[Anti Federalist]

I didn't realize it wasn't :confused:

That^^^

Have I been misinformed?

Is the reality that the Republic is fine, our freedoms are secure and the government is financially solvent? :rolleyes:

And no AJ thread is complete without the pejorative sobriquet "nutjob" having been thrown out.

Like reading a story about Ron Paul and not seeing "quixotic" at least once.

[Danke]

I agree AJ is a little bit of an ego maniac and likes to exaggerate sometimes, but he is EXTREMELY valuable, I am sorry you aren't able to see why.

I am always amazed at how well read he is, his memory and his quick recall ability.

Plus he has greats guest and does good interviews as a host.

[Todd]

parnoia porn. LOL!

[Galileo Galilei]

I don't understand how you think he is extremely valuable. Outside of the liberty movement/ conspiracy theorists no one knows who Alex Jones is. He does dig up some good stuff SOMETIMES, but he loses credibility when he stretches to make a story fit his nutjob conspiracy theories.

And I don't understand his obsession with Bilderberg/CFR/Illuminati whatever... most the people who attend those meetings are washed up has-beens, not the mover and shakers of today. While I do think that there is a push towards globalization, it isn't as sinister as he makes it out to be. Its just misguided.

What you're saying is exactly what the establishment wants the sheeple to think. Thanks for sharing.

[johngr]

What continues to interest me is "where does he get all that inside information from"? - it's a very disturbing questions, in its implications, I think.
Does he have a pipeline to the (self-styled) elitists??

He's the shepherd of the wayward sheep.

[FrankRep]

From Alex Jones:

Demonizing Alex Jones: ABC Nightline Hit Piece Backfires


Infowars.com
September 3, 2010

http://www.infowars.com/demonizing-alex-jones-abc-nightline-hit-piece-backfires/

[Matt Collins]

Was Alex driving a Dodge Viper?

[Anti Federalist]

From ABC's website, the accompying article:

Lolz at "media empire", as if an office in Austin industrial park, websites and self made documentaries is an "empire".

Double Lolz at the repeated "libertarian" references.

Angry in America: Inside Alex Jones' World
Radio Host and 'Conspiracy Theorist' Taps into Dark National Mood to Build Media Empire

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/alex-jones-day-life-libertarian-radio-host/story?id=10891854&page=1

Not many comments, about 70, but all positive.

[johngr]

What you're saying is exactly what the establishment wants the sheeple to think. Thanks for sharing.

Looks like you've got a line to them as well. Are you a disinfo shill/controlled opposition rabble rouser/agent provocateur like Jones is?

[Anti Federalist]

Was Alex driving a Dodge Viper?

At 3:15?

That was a Dodge but it wasn't any Viper.

The Viper has no back seat.

I think it's a Journey, maybe a mini van, I've heard him say he drives a "crossover" SUV.

[johnrocks]

I watched this last night and was so worried that ABC was going to lump Ron Paul in with the celebrities that are fans of his.

[Matt Collins]

My thoughts?

1- Remember Ghandi? First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they win. AJ has just gone from being ignored to being laughed at. The mere fact that the MSM is giving them ANY attention or even acknowledging his presence is amazing in and of itself.

2- Obvious hit piece? Maybe not. Most conservatives watching will see the liberal media attacking him and think "well if the liberals are attacking him, then he might have some merit, let me check him out".

3- Thankfully they didn't try to tie him to Rand or Ron or the tea parties; this could've been MUCH worse than it was in the political department.

4- AJ must be really starting to bother some people for the MSM to do a hit piece on him. My guess is that because Drudge has been linking to him more frequently he is becoming more of a household name. This ABC segment just increased his name brand recognition which only helps AJ.


I am not an AJ fan by any stretch and I think about half of what he puts out is garbage. However I must say he is great at opening peoples eyes, getting them to think outside of the box, and most importantly causing them to question and not trust their government. The more people who are turned onto AJ will eventually be turned onto liberty and that is a good thing even if they do carry the liability of conspiracy theory baggage.

[RokiLothbard]

Just for entertainment pruposes, I like AJ alot. Who doesn't want to hear a good rant over a calm pretend-to-be-objective snooze fest? Well .. I guess lots of people, but I'm not one of them.

I do think he exagerates at time, and he sometimes has to work too hard to fit stuff into his narrative.

However , go look at the ABC article referenced by the infowars refutation. That really is nothing but a hit piece. If they disagree with what he is saying, why don't they do some actual researach and point out his factual errors? And then they bring up "hate groups" and people going on shooting sprees in association with AJ? WTF? that is dishonest and scummy. Way worse than any problem I've got with AJ.

I think it is always pretty obvious when AJ takes it too far, but for that reason I feel like I can listen to him with my guard down. ABC and other MSM are much more subtle, and seek to convince their consumers that they don't even have a narrative. I feel like I have to intentionally fire up my BS filters before I can listen to them at all.

[Ekrub]

That^^^

Have I been misinformed?

Is the reality that the Republic is fine, our freedoms are secure and the government is financially solvent? :rolleyes:

And no AJ thread is complete without the pejorative sobriquet "nutjob" having been thrown out.

Like reading a story about Ron Paul and not seeing "quixotic" at least once.

And no police injustice thread you start is complete without an obligatory "All cops are tyrants and should die" post.

The Republic is not fine, our freedoms are not secure, and the government is not financially solvent. This is due to a majority of the population using the government to get what they want from the minority. Not due to Bilderberg attendees controlling all of us like puppets.

I appreciate your passion, but I feel like it could be better directed at changing leadership at the local, state, and national level. Not fretting about the Bilderberg group, CFR, Trilateral Commission, or whatever other conspiracy theory is popular right now.

[eOs]

From Alex Jones:

Demonizing Alex Jones: ABC Nightline Hit Piece Backfires


Infowars.com
September 3, 2010

http://www.infowars.com/demonizing-alex-jones-abc-nightline-hit-piece-backfires/

What the hell? From the youtube vid I thought this was nothing but an objective news story. I didn't see any hit pieces..Alex may have intellectually hit himself a couple of times but that's about it.

[Ekrub]

What you're saying is exactly what the establishment wants the sheeple to think. Thanks for sharing.

You're right. I am unenlightened and just follow the masses. I can't think for myself. The government must have really ramped up that poison water over here, because I trust everybody, and everything that I hear from the MSM. Thanks for bringing me out of that slump.

[ViniVidiVici]

At 3:15?

That was a Dodge but it wasn't any Viper.

The Viper has no back seat.

I think it's a Journey, maybe a mini van, I've heard him say he drives a "crossover" SUV.

I thought it was a Charger

[Galileo Galilei]

Looks like you've got a line to them as well. Are you a disinfo shill/controlled opposition rabble rouser/agent provocateur like Jones is?

You're saying the same thing the NWO says. Please get off Alex Jones' back.

[Natalie]

I like AJ. I was mad after the whole Medina thing, but I got over it.

[dannno]

What the hell? From the youtube vid I thought this was nothing but an objective news story. I didn't see any hit pieces...

LOL, That is why YOU are discredited :D

[Zatch]

Drudge links to Alex Jones on a regular basis these days. There's an infowars article on drudge now about Machete sequels: http://www.drudgereport.com/

[Anti Federalist]

And no police injustice thread you start is complete without an obligatory "All cops are tyrants and should die" post.

While sympathetic to that thought, in that all cops are enforcing the laws of an unjust and illegal state, I never said any such thing.


The Republic is not fine, our freedoms are not secure, and the government is not financially solvent. This is due to a majority of the population using the government to get what they want from the minority. Not due to Bilderberg attendees controlling all of us like puppets.

So, those people who attend, and declare, publicly that they will increase the system that you speak of, have no influence at all, and their meetings are not newsworthy?


I appreciate your passion, but I feel like it could be better directed at changing leadership at the local, state, and national level. Not fretting about the Bilderberg group, CFR, Trilateral Commission, or whatever other conspiracy theory is popular right now.

Well, I'm confused, what is the falsehood here?

Do these organizations not exist?

Do they exist, but have goals completely contrary to what I believe they do?

Do they exist, have the goals I believe they do, but have no influence?

Oh and BTW, point me to the last CFR, TriLat or Bilderberg thread I started.

[sratiug]

And no police injustice thread you start is complete without an obligatory "All cops are tyrants and should die" post.

The Republic is not fine, our freedoms are not secure, and the government is not financially solvent. This is due to a majority of the population using the government to get what they want from the minority. Not due to Bilderberg attendees controlling all of us like puppets.

I appreciate your passion, but I feel like it could be better directed at changing leadership at the local, state, and national level. Not fretting about the Bilderberg group, CFR, Trilateral Commission, or whatever other conspiracy theory is popular right now.

I suppose you think Ron Paul's obsession with the evil caused by the Federal Reserve is crazy conspiracy theory? You do understand that the goal of the CFR is to hand American sovereignty over to world government, right?

[sratiug]

I like AJ. I was mad after the whole Medina thing, but I got over it.

I'm pretty sure that was Glenn Beck.

[Ekrub]

While sympathetic to that thought, in that all cops are enforcing the laws of an unjust and illegal state, I never said any such thing.

We are getting off on a tangent here... but I appreciate the articles you post, and can't remember you saying anything out of line. Lets just leave it at that.


So, those people who attend, and declare, publicly that they will increase the system that you speak of, have no influence at all, and their meetings are not newsworthy?

The people who attend and declare publicy that they will ramp up the world government do just that. Talk. No action. And to the extent that AJ says? HELL NO.


Well, I'm confused, what is the falsehood here?

Do these organizations not exist?

Do they exist, but have goals completely contrary to what I believe they do?

Do they exist, have the goals I believe they do, but have no influence?

Oh and BTW, point me to the last CFR, TriLat or Bilderberg thread I started.

They exist, have some goals that you believe they do, but have relatively little influence.

[Ekrub]

I suppose you think Ron Paul's obsession with the evil caused by the Federal Reserve is crazy conspiracy theory? You do understand that the goal of the CFR is to hand American sovereignty over to world government, right?

:rolleyes:

The boom and bust cycle, inflation, bailing out banks? Absolutely I believe in these evils caused by the Federal Reserve. It is crazy, but not a conspiracy theory. Just flawed economic theory.


I'm pretty sure that was Glenn Beck.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/126737

It was AJ she was referring to. He attacked her for not believing in the 9/11 Truther movement.

[paulitics]

[QUOTE=Ekrub;2873419]:rolleyes:

The boom and bust cycle, inflation, bailing out banks? Absolutely I believe in these evils caused by the Federal Reserve. It is crazy, but not a conspiracy theory. Just flawed economic theory.



Whatever makes you sleep better at night. :rolleyes:

[Ekrub]

:rolleyes:

The boom and bust cycle, inflation, bailing out banks? Absolutely I believe in these evils caused by the Federal Reserve. It is crazy, but not a conspiracy theory. Just flawed economic theory.



Whatever makes you sleep better at night. :rolleyes:

? What is wrong with this statement?

[anaconda]

I learned about Ron Paul from Alex Jones. Crazy man, that Jones....;)

[sratiug]

:rolleyes:

The boom and bust cycle, inflation, bailing out banks? Absolutely I believe in these evils caused by the Federal Reserve. It is crazy, but not a conspiracy theory. Just flawed economic theory.



http://www.dailypaul.com/node/126737

It was AJ she was referring to. He attacked her for not believing in the 9/11 Truther movement.

No, it is a conspiracy that has been revealed by G. Edward Griffin, Charles Lindburg and others. I hadn't heard about Alex attacking Medina.

[sratiug]

? What is wrong with this statement?

He doesn't understand it is a conspiracy and they are doing it on purpose, would be my guess.

[edit: oops, he was you, lol... I was posting too fast, thought someone else posted that.]

[Nate-ForLiberty]

I learned about Ron Paul from Alex Jones. Crazy man, that Jones....;)

+1

[tjeffersonsghost]

Anyone can say what they want about Alex Jones but the fact is he reports the stories that most news outlets will not report. I have seen stories on infowars that arent reported by the MSM till months later. I have seen many more on there that arent reported at all. That being said I have seen some far out stories that are even out there for me.

In a free market there is supply and demand. Alex Jones is supplying for a demand that is growing and growing as the government lies, hypocrisy, and out right theft become more apparent. If corruption, lies, and hypocrisy didn't exist within our government the demand for AJ wouldnt be there and he would fall off the map. So who do you blame?

[Jandrsn21]

I learned about Ron Paul from Alex Jones. Crazy man, that Jones....;)

Same, last November me and my two friends ran across Obama Deception on the internet. Watched that and The Fall of the Republic. We were Obama voters. That movie shook us out of the hypnosis. We we started looking into the alternate media, we then began to see what Obama was doing and became horrified! Didn't even know who Ron Paul was in 2007, 2008 and most of 2009.

I do agree with some that he may be over the top. Honestly though, name someone so influential that will report these things. Even C4L is a fraction of what he is. Also it is pretty astonishing too, to see neighbors and family members starting to bring these things up.

[SLSteven]

Gotta love that eery Obama Deception music!

[devil21]

The segment seemed pretty fair to me. It's one of the few MSM pieces that presents both sides! I don't want them kowtowing to AJ just because AJ is a centerpiece (like it or not) of the present day liberty movement. He was asked a few tough questions but those questions were framed as they would be asked by a sheep. A fair interview, though maybe shorter than it should have been considering they spent a whole day with him.

Sure, AJ is over the top at times but I think that's part of how he attracts people into listening and then digging deeper. Some of his subject matter is so fantastic (even when true) that it needs to be over the top just to sink into some people's heads. I don't listen to AJ's shows but I do visit his websites every few days and I always learn something new. ...and learning and reading deeper is what he urges people to do.

[Danke]

They exist, have some goals that you believe they do, but have relatively little influence.

I'm glad we finally got someone in the know to clear that up for us. I can sleep better at night now. Thanks!!!

[Imaginos]

Calling out Federal Reserve and Banking Cartel criminals day in and day out alone qualifies Alex Jones as an upstanding citizen.
Plus Alex has introduced Ron Paul to a million plus listeners for 12 years when everyone ignored Ron Paul.
Alex was one of the first few who gave Ron Paul a chance to express his ideas and philosophies.

[EndDaFed]

What continues to interest me is "where does he get all that inside information from"? - it's a very disturbing questions, in its implications, I think.
Does he have a pipeline to the (self-styled) elitists??

It's from a dark smelly place where the sun never shines.

[Anti Federalist]

We are getting off on a tangent here... but I appreciate the articles you post, and can't remember you saying anything out of line. Lets just leave it at that.

Normally I wouldn't be inclined to "leave it at that" since you stated an opinion of my comments not based in fact: or having your blessings on anything I say being "out of line".

But, I'm not in that sort of mood tonight.


The people who attend and declare publicy that they will ramp up the world government do just that. Talk. No action. And to the extent that AJ says? HELL NO.

Since I am, even as a US citizen, directly taxed of my time and money by the global government, can you tell me what makes you so sure?

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

I suppose you think Ron Paul's obsession with the evil caused by the Federal Reserve is crazy conspiracy theory? You do understand that the goal of the CFR is to hand American sovereignty over to world government, right?

Ron Paul is against the Federal Reserve for Misesian reasons, not because of Mullins or AJ..lol.

[ninepointfive]

I wonder how many forum members are paid by disinformation campaigns. It's obvious we have a few right here right now!

Alex Jones is the man. The only thing I think hurts his credibility is his tendency to get verbally exited about what he's doing, and discredit himself for these journalists looking for news clips and sound bytes. Anyone else discrediting him has on some heavy blinders, or is one of those paid bloggers.

[Galileo Galilei]

Ron Paul is against the Federal Reserve for Misesian reasons, not because of Mullins or AJ..lol.

There's quite a bit of overlap between RP and AJ.

[sofia]

AJ has unplugged hundreds of thousands....perhaps even a few million....from the Globalist Matrix.

How many people have you Jones haters unplugged????

I bet most of you haven't even converted your own family members and friends.

Hmmmm..Give your O-bot co-worker, or your Beck-bot Uncle a copy of a Von Mises book. That'll wake em up I bet.....:rolleyes:

[crazyfacedjenkins]

I watch AJ for entertainment, but I'm pretty impressed with some of the guests he has.

[WaltM]

Very good catch!

I don't think they misrepresented him.

"That's why you're discredited" (because he doesn't believe in world government, lol)
"It's all sarcastic" (yeah Alex, why not?)

I'm surprised they didn't get him for his Desiree Jennings article (actually discredited and never corrected or retracted)

"He hates his job" Yeah, right, wait til you hear how much he's earned on people's fears.

[WaltM]

Have you read the Creature From Jekyll Island?


You mean the book that tells us JFK WASN'T killed by bankers for wanting to "end the Fed"?



The Council on Foreign Relations is an insturment of world government, that is it's entire purpose. It is as anti-American an organization as has ever existed. There is no reason not to be concerned since it's only purpose is to destroy our republic. Everyone on these forums needs to understand this.

[James Madison]

I learned about Ron Paul from Alex Jones. Crazy man, that Jones....;)

Same here.:eek:

[Anti Federalist]

Lots of kooky, conspiracy tainted ideas, here...

YouTube - Ron Paul's What If ? Remastered (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM)

[WaltM]

Same here.:eek:

Some people heard about Ron Paul from Bill Maher or Bunny Ranch owner, doesn't make them all good people.

[James Madison]

Some people heard about Ron Paul from Bill Maher or Bunny Ranch owner, doesn't make them all good people.

As in the Bunny Ranch in Nevada?

[Anti Federalist]

AJ has unplugged hundreds of thousands....perhaps even a few million....from the Globalist Matrix.

How many people have you Jones haters unplugged????

I bet most of you haven't even converted your own family members and friends.

Hmmmm..Give your O-bot co-worker, or your Beck-bot Uncle a copy of a Von Mises book. That'll wake em up I bet.....:rolleyes:

LolZ +1776

[Vessol]

Getting out of the conspiracy theory field, are there actually people here who DONT believe there is a push for world government? That's been out of the realm of conspiracies since the 1990's and the push for the idea of a "Global Village"

[Anti Federalist]

The people who attend and declare publicy that they will ramp up the world government do just that. Talk. No action. And to the extent that AJ says? HELL NO.

They exist, have some goals that you believe they do, but have relatively little influence.


Getting out of the conspiracy theory field, are there actually people here who DONT believe there is a push for world government? That's been out of the realm of conspiracies since the 1990's and the push for the idea of a "Global Village"

See above ^^^

[lucius]

AJ has unplugged hundreds of thousands....perhaps even a few million....from the Globalist Matrix.

How many people have you Jones haters unplugged????

I bet most of you haven't even converted your own family members and friends.

Hmmmm..Give your O-bot co-worker, or your Beck-bot Uncle a copy of a Von Mises book. That'll wake em up I bet.....:rolleyes:

Yea ok, but I kinda feel this way about Alex 'Emerick' Jones:

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
— Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Have you ever met him?

[Anti Federalist]

Yea ok, but I kinda feel this way about Alex 'Emerick' Jones:

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
— Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Have you ever met him?

Whom?

Jones or Lenin? ;)

Kidding aside, I've met Jones twice, and the impression that I took away was that he is, indeed, the "real deal".

[James Madison]

Whom?

Jones or Lenin? ;)

Kidding aside, I've met Jones twice, and the impression that I took away was that he is, indeed, the "real deal".

Awesome! How'd you meet him?

[eOs]

YouTube - Alex Jones Has Delusional Fantasies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vjtn_ex2t8)

Throw 'em in the pit! BLAAR!!!


YouTube - Crazy Alex Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81rZ2DlfENQ)

We gonna' feed on yo' ass!

YouTube - Epic Alex Jones Screaming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmAiD2k8rNY)

[Vessol]

Heaven forbid someone has fun while doing their job. I have to admit though, that was a hilarious clip.

[lucius]

Whom?

Jones or Lenin? ;)

Kidding aside, I've met Jones twice, and the impression that I took away was that he is, indeed, the "real deal".

I met him once. What concerns me is that he is gaining mainstream media traction, ie. prospering (not like west, gurudas, boylan, fitts etc...). Also, I think root-cause is very easy to articulate, but he just seems not to quite make it. He also pushes the fear/back-against-the-way option way too much--in his defense, I have not listened to him for many years. But, there was a time when I woke-up with him, just went beyond...

But, you know I have held this opinion for awhile...

[jclay2]

Despite Jones' personal motives, he consistently is one of the first people to break news stories pivotal to the liberty movement and the state of our declining country. Often I see his stories reposted on rp forums and other websites. And a lot of these so called crazy conspiracy stories that he posts on infowars are direct links to the mainstream media. I have listened to the alex jones show and watched his movies. Sure he has a tendency to stretch the truth, but he also has a tendency to hit on really good nuggets of information that are completely disregarded everywhere else. You don't have to accept everything alex jones says for him to be a valueable and trustworthy resource. Like any other media source, take in the information and analyze it for yourself. I personally think what jones is doing is awesome. Tons of people have woken up because of his show and have been introduced to ron paul because of him. This guy is good for the liberty movement. Don't believe me, take a couple weeks and listen to his show.

[Vessol]

I met him once. What concerns me is that he is gaining mainstream media traction, ie. prospering (not like west, gurudas, boylan, fitts etc...). Also, I think root-cause is very easy to articulate, but he just seems not to quite make it. He also pushes the fear/back-against-the-way option way too much--in his defense, I have not listened to him for many years. But, there was a time when I woke-up with him, just went beyond...

But, you know I have held this opinion for awhile...

I don't listen to Alex Jones much anymore myself, if not at all. But if you asked people on the internet or in general if they heard of Alex Jones, they'd go "Who?". Now ask in 2010 and many will know because of his movies being spread. Why? Because people are actively trying to find out why shit is so fucked up and Alex Jones gives them understandable reasons.

[Anti Federalist]

Awesome! How'd you meet him?

On two different days whilst raising hell at the 2004 RNC convention in NYC.

Granted not at all a "sit down' long talk" kind of thing, but I like to think I'm a pretty good judge of character and I took what he said as being "real".

[Anti Federalist]

I met him once. What concerns me is that he is gaining mainstream media traction, ie. prospering (not like west, gurudas, boylan, fitts etc...). Also, I think root-cause is very easy to articulate, but he just seems not to quite make it. He also pushes the fear/back-against-the-way option way too much--in his defense, I have not listened to him for many years. But, there was a time when I woke-up with him, just went beyond...

But, you know I have held this opinion for awhile...

You know what? I don't have a mouthpiece in media, and outside of Ron Paul, who does not represent my district, I have little or no representation in government.

Neither of these men are perfect, (although Dr. Paul comes damn close) but since my representation in the battle field of ideas is so limited, I have to take what I can get.

For the most part, Jones represents what I think, and presents it in exactly the same gruff, bombastic style that I do.

Therefore, I have no choice but to support his efforts.

[Ekrub]

Getting out of the conspiracy theory field, are there actually people here who DONT believe there is a push for world government? That's been out of the realm of conspiracies since the 1990's and the push for the idea of a "Global Village"

I believe that there is a push for world government or globalization. I just don't think there is some evil sinister plot by Bilderberg/CFR to start a world government and then poison our water to dumb us down/population control.

I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job by our government, but a reaction from muslims pist off because of our foreign policy of occupation and our meddling.

I do believe that the Fed is an institution that needs to be ended. Not because I believe that they purposely want to destroy our dollar and wreck the economy, but because they utilize a flawed Keynesian economic theory that leads to the boom and bust cycle, no transparency, manipulate interest rates, and bail out their buddies.

I don't believe that every disaster/ event that occurs is due to some sort of conspiracy theory.

And I don't believe there is any difference between the way Glenn Beck and Alex Jones use fear mongering as a way too profit off of people. I'll admit that Alex Jones has brought a lot of people to the liberty movement, but so has Glenn Beck. Doesn't mean that I have to like either of their styles or believe what they say.

[Sola_Fide]

Alex is right about the progress toward world collectivism run by the scientific elite.

No doubt in my mind.

[Anti Federalist]

I believe that there is a push for world government or globalization. I just don't think there is some evil sinister plot by Bilderberg/CFR to start a world government and then poison our water to dumb us down/population control.

Even when "they" say that is the ultimate goal, to reduce world population to no more than 500 million?


I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job by our government, but a reaction from muslims pist off because of our foreign policy of occupation and our meddling.

It can be both, it does not have to be posited as an either/or situation.


I do believe that the Fed is an institution that needs to be ended. Not because I believe that they purposely want to destroy our dollar and wreck the economy, but because they utilize a flawed Keynesian economic theory that leads to the boom and bust cycle, no transparency, manipulate interest rates, and bail out their buddies.

Behind the scenes manipulations of trillions of dollars to pay off corrupt cronies is the very definition of an "inside job conspiracy theory". ;)


I don't believe that every disaster/ event that occurs is due to some sort of conspiracy theory.

No, it is not, of course that's not the case. There are many incidents that are not "conspiracies" per se, they happen every day. The Deepwater Horizon disaster is one of those incidents or the Challenger explosion. Both disasters were caused by rushing a deadline and overlooking critical mechanical and safety issues.

But there are certainly other incidents that do qualify as 'conspiracies".

The events surrounding the death of Pat Tillman certainly falls into that category.


And I don't believe there is any difference between the way Glenn Beck and Alex Jones use fear mongering as a way too profit off of people. I'll admit that Alex Jones has brought a lot of people to the liberty movement, but so has Glenn Beck. Doesn't mean that I have to like either of their styles or believe what they say.

I don't begrudge either of these men the right to make a living.

My problem with Beck is that he doesn't actually believe what he says, it's all an act to him, whereas I'm convinced that Jones is sincere.

[Ekrub]

Even when "they" say that is the ultimate goal, to reduce world population to no more than 500 million?

I don't believe there are these sinister agendas. There is a push for globalization but it is a lot more mainstream.


It can be both, it does not have to be posited as an either/or situation.

If this were true, Bin Laden would have already came out and told the truth. Nothing would get us out of the Middle East quicker. (his stated goal)


Behind the scenes manipulations of trillions of dollars to pay off corrupt cronies is the very definition of an "inside job conspiracy theory". ;)

I already stated that was a reason to end the Federal Reserve. And it wasnt behind the scenes. The bank bailouts were broadcast on every news station for months (and to this day currently) and one of the reasons that the tea parties started becoming so popular. I just don't believe that they are intentionally trying to sabotage the dollar. Its flawed economic theory that is destroying our economy.


No, it is not, of course that's not the case. There are many incidents that are not "conspiracies" per se, they happen every day. The Deepwater Horizon disaster is one of those incidents or the Challenger explosion. Both disasters were caused by rushing a deadline and overlooking critical mechanical and safety issues.

But there are certainly other incidents that do qualify as 'conspiracies".

The events surrounding the death of Pat Tillman certainly falls into that category.

Alex Jones' claim that the Deepwater Horizon disaster is a false flag event:

YouTube - Alex's Evidence Points to BP Oil Spill as False Flag Event on The Alex Jones Show 1/3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aRiC_mwFj8&feature=player_embedded)

I believe Pat Tillmans death to be fishy. I believe in that "conspiracy."


I don't begrudge either of these men the right to make a living.

My problem with Beck is that he doesn't actually believe what he says, it's all an act to him, whereas I'm convinced that Jones is sincere.

Both use the same tactics to prey on people's fears. Both bring people to the liberty movement. Both threw Medina under the bus when she didn't say exactly what they wanted to hear. They are both douche bags not truely interested in the message of liberty, but rather use the liberty message to advance their own agendas and careers.

[lucius]

You know what? I don't have a mouthpiece in media, and outside of Ron Paul, who does not represent my district, I have little or no representation in government.

Neither of these men are perfect, (although Dr. Paul comes damn close) but since my representation in the battle field of ideas is so limited, I have to take what I can get.

For the most part, Jones represents what I think, and presents it in exactly the same gruff, bombastic style that I do.

Therefore, I have no choice but to support his efforts.

No, no, no, you misunderstanding me.

Support his efforts always, but have a modicum of allowance that ideas are sterling, men sometimes fail...I step back now with my new understanding and think, "Of course the opposition is led...always has been, always will...just do not know who's leading?"

But hal turner was a fucking ringer which was very easy to spot for me way before he was outed, just because he prospered for awhile when others got slammed dunked for less. It was funny to watch how the feds just threw him away like the broken-tool he was.

So, I'm not a real jones-hater, but just a little apprehensive the blind faith many maintain...

[legion]

Alex is right about the progress toward world collectivism run by the scientific elite.

No doubt in my mind.


Why is does everyone hate scientists so much? We're the only reason you're not living as slaves and cowering in fear every time an asteroid streaks across the sky.

[sratiug]

You mean the book that tells us JFK WASN'T killed by bankers for wanting to "end the Fed"?

The book that explains how a group of evil bankers conspired to take over the American monetary system, destroy the American middle class, destroy the dollar to replace it with a global currency, and enslave the entire world.

[sratiug]

Why is does everyone hate scientists so much? We're the only reason you're not living as slaves and cowering in fear every time an asteroid streaks across the sky.

It is the wealthiest people in the world using science as an excuse to exterminate the excess of commoners beyond what they need to live their parasitic lives, or at least the middle classes that can't be easily controlled. They believe that they have achieved wealth through superior intelligence just as kings believed they were ordainded by God to rule over their stupid mortal subjects. In other words, they are a bunch of stupid inbred fucks with a lot of money that are crazy and dangerous and want to control your world government and their greatest enemy is any free republic.

[legion]

It is the wealthiest people in the world using science as an excuse to exterminate the excess of commoners beyond what they need to live their parasitic lives, or at least the middle classes that can't be easily controlled. They believe that they have achieved wealth through superior intelligence just as kings believed they were ordainded by God to rule over their stupid mortal subjects. In other words, they are a bunch of stupid inbred fucks with a lot of money that are crazy and dangerous and want to control your world government and their greatest enemy is any free republic.

That's not science. It's religion and hand waving wearing the mask of science. Marx tried to claim socialism was scientific too, but that doesn't mean it actually had anything to do with science.

[PatriotOne]

I met him once. What concerns me is that he is gaining mainstream media traction, ie. prospering (not like west, gurudas, boylan, fitts etc...). Also, I think root-cause is very easy to articulate, but he just seems not to quite make it. He also pushes the fear/back-against-the-way option way too much--in his defense, I have not listened to him for many years. But, there was a time when I woke-up with him, just went beyond...

But, you know I have held this opinion for awhile...

Ron Paul is allowed the mainstream podium now also. Now that we have been looted, the next step is to start civil unrest, crash our economy, overthrow our government, martial law, force us to submit to the U.N. yadda, yadda, yadda

Their probably wondering what the hell is taking so long and worried they overmedicated us at this point :eek:. Dissenting voices now allowed to cause dissent. RP is obviously not a willing tool...AJ would have to be the best freaking actor in the world but it's possible I guess.

[WaltM]

That's not science. It's religion and hand waving wearing the mask of science. Marx tried to claim socialism was scientific too, but that doesn't mean it actually had anything to do with science.

as if you need an excuse to exterminate people, lol.

Why is science the new scapegoat? Because most of these conspiracy theorists come from Christians. The scapegoat used to be Jews and Muslims, now it's atheists and evolution.

[PatriotOne]

It is the wealthiest people in the world using science as an excuse to exterminate the excess of commoners beyond what they need to live their parasitic lives, or at least the middle classes that can't be easily controlled. They believe that they have achieved wealth through superior intelligence just as kings believed they were ordainded by God to rule over their stupid mortal subjects. In other words, they are a bunch of stupid inbred fucks with a lot of money that are crazy and dangerous and want to control your world government and their greatest enemy is any free republic.

Hahahahaha....that's fabulous :D.

[lucius]

as if you need an excuse to exterminate people, lol.

Why is science the new scapegoat? Because most of these conspiracy theorists come from Christians. The scapegoat used to be Jews and Muslims, now it's atheists and evolution.

Here is the short-cut...science is the tool of the elite; it is our new religion:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w87/alohahedone/the_ascendancy_of_the_scientific_di.png

[PatriotOne]

Why is does everyone hate scientists so much?

I don't think people hate all scientists. It's just the whores willing to manipulate the data to suit the governments agenda. No shortage of them on the government dole.

[Anti Federalist]

Both use the same tactics to prey on people's fears. Both bring people to the liberty movement. Both threw Medina under the bus when she didn't say exactly what they wanted to hear. They are both douche bags not truely interested in the message of liberty, but rather use the liberty message to advance their own agendas and careers.

If it was only about money and careers, Jones would not authorize copying anything and everything he produces.

Try making 10,000 copies of The Overton Window and giving them out.

See how fast Righthaven lands on you.

[Anti Federalist]

Why is does everyone hate scientists so much? We're the only reason you're not living as slaves and cowering in fear every time an asteroid streaks across the sky.

Cuts both ways.

Now we can worry about genetically modified viruses with 100% mortality rates or thermonuclear weapons.

[crazyfacedjenkins]

YouTube - Alex Jones Has Delusional Fantasies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vjtn_ex2t8)

Throw 'em in the pit! BLAAR!!!
...


I love that guy's channel. Pure comic gold.

YouTube - Alex Jones Goes Ape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct21YCEiWMM)

[WaltM]

look what i found today!@
http://imgur.com/yJHGP.gif

[WaltM]

If it was only about money and careers, Jones would not authorize copying anything and everything he produces.

Try making 10,000 copies of The Overton Window and giving them out.

See how fast Righthaven lands on you.

he only authorized it when he knows it's too late to care.

better late than never though.

[Anti Federalist]

he only authorized it when he knows it's too late to care.

better late than never though.

Untrue.

I've been listening for over ten years now, and it has always been his standard "policy" that all his videos can be freely duplicated and/or broadcast/youtubed/file shared at any time.

Says so right in the fine print on the back of the production DVDs

[amy31416]

Cuts both ways.

Now we can worry about genetically modified viruses with 100% mortality rates or thermonuclear weapons.

Shaddap and eat yer "sandwich." we've got tests to run. :)

[Anti Federalist]

Shaddap and eat yer "sandwich." we've got tests to run. :)

Mmmmmm, sammich...

[WaltM]

Untrue.

I've been listening for over ten years now, and it has always been his standard "policy" that all his videos can be freely duplicated and/or broadcast/youtubed/file shared at any time.

Says so right in the fine print on the back of the production DVDs

thanks for the correction.

if that were the case, it's wonder why he sells them for $20 rather than $5, which would make duplication less necessary.

[Wiserphil]

you all are missing the BIG picture.

http://www.wingtv.net/gcnabc.html

GCN an ABC Affiliate

by Victor Thorn & Lisa Guliani



Did you know that GCN – the network which carries Alex Jones and Jeff Rense – is an ABC affiliate? Yes, ABC - as in the Disney-owned American Broadcasting Corporation – the epitome of mainstream corporate media and home of propagandists such as Peter Jennings.

Now, we’re not sure how deeply ABC’s tentacles extend into the Genesis Communications Network, and we’re fairly certain that its President Ted Anderson and others will brush-off this “affiliation” and say it amounts to nothing; but here’s the way we see things. Any time there is a financial arrangement made between two entities – for whatever purpose – there exists a huge probability that some sort of manipulation will result at a future point in time (if it hasn’t already). In addition, any time the “alternative” media starts co-mingling with the MAINSTREAM media, it has to give people an uneasy feeling. What it boils down to is that if GCN is giving money to ABC to be its affiliate, it amounts to nothing more than feeding the beast. A perfect analogy would be a parent giving their nine-year old son to Michael Jackson for an “innocent” sleepover. So yes, if you subscribe to GCN, you are indirectly financing ABC. To us, something just doesn't sound right about that.

And, to prove how on-the-mark we are, I recently spoke with Nancy Koernke, wife of imprisoned patriot Mark Koernke, and she told me that once, a few years ago, she met with GCN President Ted Anderson, who said that his ultimate goal for GCN was to make it a MAINSTREAM NETWORK! (See: Does Alternative Media = Mainstream Media?) We’ll repeat: his ultimate goal was to make GCN a mainstream network. Do you think becoming an affiliate of ABC has anything to do with attaining this goal? Also, do you think black-listing certain truth-telling guests has anything to do with GCN squashing controversial information? Hell, they even broadcast corporate mind-control news feeds from the USA Radio Network - another mainstream source! Furthermore, here is a viewer e-mail describing the USA Radio Network's ties to the Armed Forces Radio Network:

GCN's "news" outlet of choice is the USA Radio Network. As you can see from USA Radio Network's own website (USA Radio Network), they are tied in heavily with the Armed Forces Radio Network. It would not be outlandish to assume that the Pentagon has some control over the news content that goes out over the Armed Forces Radio Network. The Pentagon's policy is to shoot journalists who aren't embedded and who are independent. Doesn't this give you a great deal of confidence in GCN's news? How is GCN any different from CNN or Fox with regard to military oversight? No different. -- Mark

P.S. If GCN's news is affiliated with a military radio network, doesn't that at least indirectly make GCN's hosts government agents? They are the "honey" that makes the listeners take the bait of government/military news propaganda. Think about it....

In addition, when I asked Mrs. Koernke where she thought Ted Anderson stood on the truth movement (i.e. if he really believed in its ideals), she said that “he was a businessman out to make money off the patriot movement, and he was just using them as a source to sell gold and silver for Midas Resources.”

Furthermore, every single person in the radio business that we've spoken to has said the exact same thing: Ted Anderson is in this business (and that's what it is to him - a business) for only one reason: MONEY! [Sidenote: Ted Anderson is also president of Midas Resources, whose U.S. sales in 2004 were $8,500,000 ... not too bad for someone who keeps begging his audience for money to pay for bandwidth! Source: Dunn & Bradstreet.]

If this information isn't troubling enough, please read how Alex Jones sold-out a patriot family by selling video footage to ABC's 20/20. (See: The Alex Jones Affair). Yes, ABC has once again entered the picture, which is a strange coincidence since Alex Jones' flagship station is ... GCN!!!

What makes the GCN-ABC association even more troubling is that it is part of a larger trend in the “alternative media.” How so, you may wonder? Well, let’s look at a few supposedly “independent” venues and their affiliations and practices:

1) Art Bell and George Noory’s Coast to Coast AM radio show is syndicated by Clear Channel, one of the ultimate propaganda devils around today. To confirm this, log onto their website where you’ll read the following disclaimer:

Terms of Use Agreement: This site is owned or managed by Clear Channel Communications, Inc. (“Clear Channel”) and is part of the Clear Channel family of companies, which includes other quality entertainment brands such as broadcast and internet radio stations, television stations, Clear Channel Outdoor, Clear Channel Entertainment, and the Premiere Radio Networks (each a “Clear Channel Website,” and collectively the “Clear Channel Websites”). (See: Clear Channel Privacy Policy)

An example of how damaging this network can be is found in Art Bell’s denunciation of ALL 9-11 researchers (Art Bell 9-11 Outrage), and his complete approval of Popular Mechanics’ Benjamin Chertoff, whose 9-11 debunking article did more damage to our movement than quite possibly any other. (See: Questions to Art Bell). [As a sidenote, in the near future we are going to publish a transcript of Art Bell's testimony in a court case where he reveals how much Clear Channel is paying him, and believe us, it's six-figure MAJOR LEAGUE MONEY with lots of zeros behind it!] Strangely, Alex Jones never once criticized Bell for this slash-and-burn 9-11 broadcast, and even went so far as to rebuke callers to his show who took Bell to task for his betrayal. One can only wonder why -- when every single other person in the 9-11 Truth Movement was screaming bloody murder -- Alex Jones shielded Art Bell!

2) Amy Goodman’s Democracy Now (often referred to as Disinformation Now) has received enormous donations on multiple occasions from the Ford Foundation (Ford Foundation Sponsors Democracy Now), and anyone who logs onto (Left Gatekeeper Links) will see in frightening detail how her show is interconnected with a host of intelligence forces, think tanks, and multi-national corporations. And yes, if you missed it, the sum "granted" to Democracy Now by the Ford Foundation was $150,000. Is it starting to become clear why Amy Goodman refused to expose the truth about 9-11?

3) Mike Ruppert’s From the Wilderness website is now nothing more than a mouthpiece for Big Oil as he peddles their gloom-and-doom scare tactics and population reduction agenda under the guise of “peak oil.” (See: The Tragic Fall of Mike Ruppert))

4) As mentioned earlier, GCN is an affiliate of ABC, and now they’re even running advertisements from the same companies on their “mainstream” and “alternative” radio networks. How convenient, especially in regard to censorship, which has become a major issue at GCN. (See: Power Hour Blocks Kaminski at Last Minute). Hmm, isn’t this just like Fox News canceling Kaminski at the last minute, too! The similarities are eerie, and should erect red-flags for anyone still interested in preserving the First Amendment.

5) 911 Truth.org (and others of a similar vein) began as, and still is to this day, the most notorious source of disinformation, obfuscation, distraction, and diversion in existence. With the likes of Nicholas Levis, David Kubiak, and Kyle Hence (who once told us after appearing on WING TV that “the American people aren’t ready for the truth") at their helm, these groups have done more to prevent the truth about the government’s direct planning, execution, and cover-up of the 9-11 terror attacks than any other entity. (See Angela D’Urso’s The LIHOP - MIHOP Distraction Continued). In addition, they have done everything humanly possible to prevent information from reaching the American public on the most crucial aspect of 9-11 --- the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center towers (See: 9-11 on Trial)

6) Air America – totally worthless partisan clap-trap. One of their producers - Gabriel Zuckerman of The Al Franken Show - even compared 9-11 researchers to Live Elvis Sightings (See: Media Cowards: The Games Are Over). Abysmally pathetic.

7) The John Birch Society, who pulled a stunt similar to Popular Mechanics by trashing 9-11 researchers with their propaganda hit piece. (See: Von Kleist Challenges John Birch’s Jasper).

8) Let’s Roll 911 – quite possibly the most censored “discussion forum” on the Internet. Its host, Phil Jayhan, has even gone so far as to say that his site is “not a free speech forum,” and when we once asked him if he thought the alternative media had a responsibility to uphold higher standards than the mainstream media, he said he “wasn’t sure.” Jayhan is also responsible for the “pod theory,” which, as a peripheral issue, has been one of the biggest distractions since the 9-11 terror attacks. (See: The 9-11 Pods). Jayhan has also made the following revelations directly to Lisa Guliani and myself:

a) He knows where the four 9-11 hijacked planes are (in the Atlantic Ocean!), and he wanted Ellen Mariani to collect her Victim Compensation Fund money from the government (after the deadline had already run out, no less) so that she could finance a million-dollar expedition where he’d scour the ocean trying to find these planes! We swear to God we’re not making this up. Can you imagine Ellen Mariani picking-up the phone to hear Jayhan saying, "Yes, ma'am, all you have to do is give me a $1,000,000 and I'll start searching the ocean." The guy is out-of-his-mind delusional! Where's he going to start looking next - Atlantis!

b) He also told us that he thought a Mossad agent – Daniel Levin - who was supposedly killed on one of the downed 9-11 airliners, was still alive and hacking into his website! Can you believe this guy? What a joke!

c) Finally, right before guest hosting on a GCN radio show, Jayhan called us and said that God was speaking directly to him, and told him that he should expose the satanic government pedophilia ring that, coincidentally, everybody else in the alternative media had been talking about for the past few months.

There’s plenty more, but all we can say is that this guy is definitely off his rocker. In fact, this is a message that he recently left on his Let’s Roll 911 forum.

"This is the effect I was seeking after. I come out, be an asshole, and piss off those who oppose me and make them speak up. That way I can then swing my sickle, and harvest the wheat from the chaff and ban those who don't contribute anything to the forum.

Crude but effective. I don't need everyone to like me or agree with me, as I have enough friends already. And if some no name annonymous person doesn't like it, oh well.

I have had it up to HERE with being criticized."

Talk about megalomania and delusions of grandeur gone awry! And before we move on, just remember that this guy - Phil Jayhan - is the one who orchestrated the entire "pod theory" in the first place. Makes you want to feel a whole lot of confidence in him, doesn't it?

9) Partisan left/right sites that not only refuse to even remotely touch the 9-11 issue (in fact, they act as if it never even occurred); but who also perpetuate - ad nauseum - the Republican/Democrat paradigm that is so detrimental to any meaningful progress in this country. Examples are: Counterpunch, Newsmax (which is operated by Richard Mellon Scaife protégé Christopher Ruddy), and TruthOut.org, etc.

10) Network Company men Alex Jones (See: Alex Jones Master Link) and Jeff Rense, who have done more to spread a culture of fear in the patriot community than anyone else (See: Rense & Jones Make Fools of Audience). Either by blackballing potential guests from their shows (and literally, the entire Genesis Communications Network), acting as censors and gatekeepers, or barring writers who speak-out from their websites, these two establishment Company Men epitomize the heavy-handed tactics used by the mainstream media to silence those who refuse to remain within the well-defined parameters of their thinly-veiled CONTAINMENT MOVEMENT.

After reading this list, one thing becomes perfectly clear – nearly the entire “alternative media” has been corrupted, tainted, bought-off, or used as a form of CONTAINMENT to quell the truth. Think about it! What is written above should trouble each and every one of you to no end. Can’t you see that we’ve been infiltrated, prostituted, and bamboozled by an array of agent provocateurs?

If you’re not convinced, ponder this story told to us by Alex Merklinger, host of Mysteries of the Mind. A few years ago, Merklinger was approached by Clear Channel to host a syndicated radio talk show. The money they offered to him was substantial, and he would be heard all over the country. There was only one drawback. In Clear Channel’s contract, they clearly stated that they had complete editorial control over Merklinger’s content and guests. In other words, they were the one’s who determined whether or not a subject or personality was too controversial for the airwaves.

To his credit, Merklinger turned-down their offer, and now he does his own independent radio show. But think for a moment about Art Bell and George Noory. They’re both employed by Clear Channel, and they’re forced to abide by the very same editorial control rules as those presented to Alex Merklinger. Now can you see why certain guests never appear on Coast-to-Coast AM? Now can you see why they’ve never invited Lisa Guliani and I onto their show to talk about 9-11 on Trial, which is the most explosive book ever written on the government’s controlled demolition of the World Trade Center towers?

Likewise, now that GCN is an affiliate of the corporate-controlled media magnate ABC, can you see why Jeff Rense and Alex Jones have absolutely refused to speak about or discuss the information contained in 9-11 on Trial, essentially withholding and depriving from the public any information presented by over 40 of the best researchers in the world on the World Trade Center towers controlled demolition. This combined research is a direct, undeniable indictment of the government's smokescreen, and does more than any other source to discredit their "official" conspiracy theory. Moreover, every article and review since this book's publication has been blacklisted from their sites, despite glowing endorsements from David Ray Griffin and the American Free Press. Doesn’t this seem a bit suspicious to you? Think about it! If we really want to crack this case, shouldn't this information be made available for mass public consumption? Yet Jones & Rense put a gag order on it, effectively becoming Gatekeepers of the first order. How can anyone justify such behavior that is so reminiscent of the maintream media?

Regrettably, the deeper one digs into this scene, the more they realize that NONE of the sites, individuals, forums, and networks listed above are independent – none of them! And this trend is continuing to grow and spread throughout the alternative media. The biggest question now is: when will it end? Do you want the entire alternative media to become a mirror-image of the mainstream media? There should be absolutely NO affiliation whatsoever for any reason between the alternative media and the mainstream media. None! Don't you get it? They're the ENEMY, and in our book, cavorting with the enemy is classified as TREASON! Also, there should be absolutely NO money passing back-and-forth between us (the independent media) and them (the controlled media) - ever!

Lastly, in case you haven't figured it out yet, what we're trying to do is keep something very important from becoming broken. Regrettably, large segments of the alternative media are already severely compromised and corrupted; and inconceivably, too many people accept the fact that some of the biggest names in this field are now undeniably infiltrated and controlled by the powers-that-be. To us, their silence in this matter is inexcusable, because if we really believe in an independent media that isn't a mirror-image of the corporate media, it's our responsibility to fix it. And if we don't fix it, then we never really believed in it in the first place.

With this information in mind, here's one last question: Where do you stand on this issue --- with those who remain silent and passive (just like the New World Order controllers want them to be), or with those who are now speaking out and saying that we're not going to tolerate this infiltration any longer?

Published: June 3, 2005

[Anti Federalist]

thanks for the correction.

if that were the case, it's wonder why he sells them for $20 rather than $5, which would make duplication less necessary.

Everybody's got to make a living I suppose.

[WaltM]

Everybody's got to make a living I suppose.

fair enough.

[paulitics]

thanks for the correction.

if that were the case, it's wonder why he sells them for $20 rather than $5, which would make duplication less necessary.

Selling something for 5.00 can actually create a net loss.

[erowe1]

And, to prove how on-the-mark we are, I recently spoke with Nancy Koernke, wife of imprisoned patriot Mark Koernke, and she told me that once, a few years ago, she met with GCN President Ted Anderson, who said that his ultimate goal for GCN was to make it a MAINSTREAM NETWORK! (See: Does Alternative Media = Mainstream Media?) We’ll repeat: his ultimate goal was to make GCN a mainstream network. Do you think becoming an affiliate of ABC has anything to do with attaining this goal? Also, do you think black-listing certain truth-telling guests has anything to do with GCN squashing controversial information? Hell, they even broadcast corporate mind-control news feeds from the USA Radio Network - another mainstream source!

I'd love to see how off the wall these "truth telling guests" must be to get blacklisted by Prison Planet.

[WaltM]

Selling something for 5.00 can actually create a net loss.

worse than having people pirate the film?

[Sola_Fide]

Why is does everyone hate scientists so much? We're the only reason you're not living as slaves and cowering in fear every time an asteroid streaks across the sky.



Ah....

The all-powerful atheistic scientific elite will come and save us from ourselves.




No thanks.

[ninepointfive]

Really just listen to his shows and see for yourself if you haven't already.
I went for a week once, for everyday, and the oddest thing I thought about it were the commercials.

[paulitics]

worse than having people pirate the film?

Sure. There are expenses in any business,and shipping out product individually isn't cheap. Employment, storage, paperwork, etc. Unless you are working out of mom's basement, it isn't worth 5.00 to do it.