Why are liberals so obsessed with the enviornment?

[Howard_Roark]

I was reading about the militant enviornmentalist who took people hostage and it got me wondering why liberals are so obssesed with the enivornment. From Al Gore and global warming, to the medias total obssession for months on end of the oil rig fire, to the prevention of oil drilling in places like Alaska. As a conservative, I just can't relate to any of this or understand why they are so obsessed with it and what their motivations are.

[Brett]

Easiest way into guilting people into supporting their type of government. Gone over in nice detail in the Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming (I forget the exact title, but it's in the PIG series)

[amy31416]

Mostly because it's trendy and helps them fit in with their crowd and socialize.

That's my guess.

[Elwar]

It's a convenient way to force people to do something under the guise of "saving the planet".

Since youre mere existence is detrimental to their utopia, you must give them as much of your life as possible to appease them.

[paulitics]

Mostly because it's trendy and helps them fit in with their crowd and socialize.

That's my guess.

I agree with this. For most, it is superficial. They don't even know what they are protesting and some guys just want to get chicks, etc.

Also liberals are suckers for guilt ridden propaganda. This selfish emotion is targeted towards a certain personality type, and liberals seem to possess this trait.

For those who are psycho about it, who really believe in this stuff, then I would classify it as a religion or cult...and it can become dangerous once they see everyone as "parasites" to the planet.

[WaltM]

Mostly because it's trendy and helps them fit in with their crowd and socialize.

That's my guess.

I think its because they hate profits.

If being environmentalist is profitable, they'd be against it too (and they are, to some extent)

[Endgame]

An excuse to give government control over all resources and industry.

A modern secular urban religion that appeals to people's guilt and masochistic desire for self-deprivation.

Imagine a feathered shaman atop a pyramid, tripping on shrooms, telling us the sun won't rise if we don't give him sacrifices. It's all the same pattern.

[ChaosControl]

Why aren't more people concerned about it?
Nothing wrong with being concerned about it, the problem comes in how you want to address the problems.

[oyarde]

They only pretend to be concerned . The real plan is for them to tax and steal from you at higher , maximum levels in the name of the environment while they complete the evil plan of creating wealth for themselves and poverty for you . Common communists .

[amy31416]

Why aren't more people concerned about it?
Nothing wrong with being concerned about it, the problem comes in how you want to address the problems.

Because it's also trendy for "conservatives" to be skeptical and not give a crap about it. Unless it affects the hunting. :)

It really is kind of silly. I love nature, botany, the earth, etc--and it totally sucks to see tampon applicators and used condoms on a beach. But nobody's come up with reasonable answers--I'm on neither side because there's so much bullshit surrounding the issue.

Personally, I try to do as little damage as possible.

[YumYum]

I can't speak for liberals, but many people, including myself, have seen pollution and what industry can do to ruin the environment. Some of the concern may not be warranted, but some of it is. A good source to watch documentaries about corporatism ruining the environment is Link TV. One program showed what the oil companies have done down in Ecuador and its pretty disgusting. Another is the silver mine in Bolivia, where the incident of cancer is outrageous. There are many examples in the world of deadly pollution where companies practice whatever they wish without any interference. Cleaning up their mess eats into profits, so they leave the mess. The results are disastrous.

Not everything is about Cap 'n Trade or complaining for the sake of complaining. There are legitimate complaints about pollution. Everything isn't about the bottom line, either.

[aclove]

I was reading about the militant enviornmentalist who took people hostage and it got me wondering why liberals are so obssesed with the enivornment. From Al Gore and global warming, to the medias total obssession for months on end of the oil rig fire, to the prevention of oil drilling in places like Alaska. As a conservative, I just can't relate to any of this or understand why they are so obsessed with it and what their motivations are.

This is #64 of the Things White (Liberal) People Like:

Recycling is a part of a larger theme of stuff white people like: saving the earth without having to do that much.

Recycling is fantastic! You can still buy all the stuff you like (bottled water, beer, wine, organic iced tea, and cans of all varieties) and then when you’re done you just put it in a DIFFERENT bin than where you would throw your other garbage. And boom! Environment saved! Everyone feels great, it’s so easy!

This is important because all white feel guilty about producing waste. It doesn’t stop them from doing it, but they feel guilty about it. Deep down, they believe they should be like the Native Americans and use every part of the product or beast they have consumed. Though for many white people, this simply means putting plastic bags into a special drawer where they will accumulate until they are eventually used to carry some gym clothes or bathing suit. Ultimately this drawer will get full and only be emptied when the person moves to a new house. Advanced white recyclers will uses these grocery bags as garbage bags.

If you are in a situation where a white person produces an empty bottle, watch their actions. They will first say “where’s the recycling?” If you say “we don’t recycle,” prepare for some awkwardness. They will make a move to throw the bottle away, they will hesitate, and then ultimately throw the bottle away. But after they return look in their eyes. All they can see is the bottle lasting forever in a landfill, trapping small animals. It will eat at them for days, at this point you should say “I’m just kidding, the recycling is under the sink. Can you fish out that bottle?” And they will do it 100% of the time!

The best advice is that if you plan to deal with white people on regular basis either start recycling or purchase a large blue bin so that they can believe they are recycling.

For the full list, see here: http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/full-list-of-stuff-white-people-like/

[awake]

Environmental regulation has been both a boon to the state and the business latched on to the government tit.

If whole oil bearing stretches of the ocean can be made untouchable to save the polar bears or the dolphins, that is land that is intimately controlled by the political powers from which they can grant or deny for the sole benefit of special interests.

Closing The Gulf of Mexico has a profitable effect on the price of oil. So do sabotaged oil rigs and wars with oil producing countries. Prices go up. The oil cartel would like this government decree , it makes them money.

Environmentalists are aggressively attacking the Canadian Oil sands to stop it. Why? It is not part of any cartel arrangement and 2nd to Saudi Arabia for reserves. Those reserves coming to the market scare cartelists as it has a price lowering effect. Keep'n the foreign oil out as they say ...

This shows an example of the U.s. Oil Cartel agreeing with Environmentalists - the goal is the same.

Environmentalism serves in a round about way the interest of oil cartelisim and government the same , by making something more scarce (artificially) you boost prices and the deceiving GDP rises. Environmentalism achieves this scarcity through greater amounts of legislation placing areas off limit to exploration and attacking all competition to oil companies as more polluting than oil; requiring special penalties that the oil companies some how manage to mostly free themselves from. Environmentalism is protectionism redressed. This fact is vehemently denied by its most indoctrinated members.

[Elwar]

I can't speak for liberals, but many people, including myself, have seen pollution and what industry can do to ruin the environment. Some of the concern may not be warranted, but some of it is. A good source to watch documentaries about corporatism ruining the environment is Link TV. One program showed what the oil companies have done down in Ecuador and its pretty disgusting. Another is the silver mine in Bolivia, where the incident of cancer is outrageous. There are many examples in the world of deadly pollution where companies practice whatever they wish without any interference. Cleaning up their mess eats into profits, so they leave the mess. The results are disastrous.

Not everything is about Cap 'n Trade or complaining for the sake of complaining. There are legitimate complaints about pollution. Everything isn't about the bottom line, either.

Pollution became more prevalent when the government gave polluting companies immunity from lawsuits through the EPA.

[YumYum]

Pollution became more prevalent when the government gave polluting companies immunity from lawsuits through the EPA.

I'm not talking about the EPA. I'm referring to corporations and their activities world wide. There was a documentary titled "Confessions of a Hitman" on Link TV. This guy is a reformed hit man who worked for major industries, including the oil companies. He explains how he and others were hired to go into these poor countries that had an abundance of natural resources and would meet with the leader of the country and make an offer: "We will pay you $200 million and will drill for your oil, or we will kill you." In most cases the leader of the third world country accepts the blackmail out of fear. One president didn't accept the offer in Ecuador, and he was murdered. The next president accepted the hitman's offer and now Ecuador is left with irreparable damage to their environment.

Just because government is corrupt and allows corporations to pollute doesn't make polluting the environment acceptable when it endangers other people's lives.

[Rothbardian Girl]

This is #64 of the Things White (Liberal) People Like:

Recycling is a part of a larger theme of stuff white people like: saving the earth without having to do that much.

Recycling is fantastic! You can still buy all the stuff you like (bottled water, beer, wine, organic iced tea, and cans of all varieties) and then when you’re done you just put it in a DIFFERENT bin than where you would throw your other garbage. And boom! Environment saved! Everyone feels great, it’s so easy!

This is important because all white feel guilty about producing waste. It doesn’t stop them from doing it, but they feel guilty about it. Deep down, they believe they should be like the Native Americans and use every part of the product or beast they have consumed. Though for many white people, this simply means putting plastic bags into a special drawer where they will accumulate until they are eventually used to carry some gym clothes or bathing suit. Ultimately this drawer will get full and only be emptied when the person moves to a new house. Advanced white recyclers will uses these grocery bags as garbage bags.

If you are in a situation where a white person produces an empty bottle, watch their actions. They will first say “where’s the recycling?” If you say “we don’t recycle,” prepare for some awkwardness. They will make a move to throw the bottle away, they will hesitate, and then ultimately throw the bottle away. But after they return look in their eyes. All they can see is the bottle lasting forever in a landfill, trapping small animals. It will eat at them for days, at this point you should say “I’m just kidding, the recycling is under the sink. Can you fish out that bottle?” And they will do it 100% of the time!

The best advice is that if you plan to deal with white people on regular basis either start recycling or purchase a large blue bin so that they can believe they are recycling.

For the full list, see here: http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/full-list-of-stuff-white-people-like/

Lol.

My opinion is that it is a shame some people have absolutely no regard for the environment, but there is really nothing that can be legislated in order to prevent that. People will still litter and engage in "midnight dumping", among other things. I am far from a tree-hugging hippie type of person, but I don't find harmful pollution acceptable. Some of the concern is justified, but most liberals will pretend to be concerned about pollution and energy, and then simultaneously do more to harm the environment than anyone else (see here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp) Recycling isn't exactly helpful, either -- a lot of the time, it takes more energy to transport the materials to be recycled than you are actually saving by recycling. The best thing to do is just to reduce consumption and reuse containers, something with which I'm sure a lot of people on this forum are familiar with, seeing as we have forums dedicated to health freedom and sustainable living.

The kind of large-scale pollution from the corporations, though, is something that would probably involve getting the government out of bed with these corporations and scaling back our foreign policy. That kind of thing makes me madder than anything else, to be completely honest. Also, the EPA is useless because the government is one of the biggest, if not the biggest polluters in the country, so the punishments just go round and round. There isn't really any accountability. Not to mention the uselessness of some of the Superfund sites. (There is one near my house that has been polluted for like 20 years if not more.)

[pcosmar]

CONTROL

:(

Fabian Socialism
Georgia guide stones
UN Agenda 21

It is all about control.

[BlackSand]

Why are liberals so obsessed with the enviornment?

Cause the republicans arent.

[pcosmar]

From the movie "Serenity"




teacher-So with so many social
and medical advancements...

we can bring
to the Independents...

why would they fight
so hard against us?



River Tam-We meddle.



teacher-River?



River Tam-People don't like
to be meddled with.

We tell them what to do,
what to think.

Don't run, don't walk.

We're in their homes
and in their heads
and we haven't the right.

We're meddlesome.



teacher-River, we're not telling
people what to think...

we're just trying
to show them how.


. Sure as I know anything, I know this - they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten? They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that. So no more runnin'. I aim to misbehave.
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds:

[BlackSand]

From the movie "Serenity"

Firefly is the best series of all time. Hands down. But ifs ands ors buts.

Just wanted to let everyone know.

[Anti Federalist]

I was reading about the militant enviornmentalist who took people hostage and it got me wondering why liberals are so obssesed with the enivornment. From Al Gore and global warming, to the medias total obssession for months on end of the oil rig fire, to the prevention of oil drilling in places like Alaska. As a conservative, I just can't relate to any of this or understand why they are so obsessed with it and what their motivations are.

Realizing I'm repeating what others already said, but they like it because it grows and supports their idea of government.

Same reason they harp on "health care" over and over.

Both through environmental and health legislation, government will have the excuse to manage and regulate every single aspect of your life.

Nothing will be off limits, since, according to them, every thing you do has an effect on the environment and your health, which they have forced all of us to pay for.

[libertybrewcity]

Why are Republicans so obsessed with Islamo-facism and the war on terror? Just as Gore gave dems a "mission" for global warming, Bush gave Republicans a "mission" to fight "terrorism".

I see a problem with being obsessed with government intervention with the environment, however, I find nothing wrong with being obsessed with the environment. Personally, I am obsessed with the environment and conservation myself. I just have a different approach.

[Stary Hickory]

Agreed they naturally gravitate to it because of the unprecedented level of control they might get out of it...same with health care. If they own your body you have nothing else left.