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johngr
08-28-2010, 10:01 PM
http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/08/25/29858.htm

Nightmarish Hospital Visit Capped by Beating, Accident Victim Says
By RYAN ABBOTT
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UPPER MARLBORO, Md. (CN) - A man who was hurt in a car crash but was misidentified as a cancer patient claims security guards at Prince George's Hospital beat him up when he tried to leave the hospital to avoid chest surgery he didn't need - "to have a potentially cancerous mass removed from his chest." He adds that one guard repeatedly called him "bitch" as he roughed him up.
Joseph Wheeler says a June 23 car accident put him in the hospital, which is owned by Dimensions Health Corporation. When he woke up hungry on June 24 and asked a nurse for food, she told him he couldn't eat because he was scheduled for surgery, Wheeler claims in Prince George's County Court.
Wheeler says the nurse checked his identification bracelet and told him the surgery was "to have a potentially cancerous mass removed from his chest."
Wheeler says his ID bracelet "contained a name that was different from Mr. Wheeler's, appeared to be that of a woman, and had a birth date that was 13 years prior to his own."
The complaint continues: "Mr. Wheeler, still in serious pain from the car accident and subsequent treatment from injuries sustained, was starting to fear for his safety as the hospital had misidentified him and he was being prepped to go into a surgery that he knew nothing about.
"At this point, Mr. Wheeler's wife, Felicia Ann Wheeler, came into the room to see her husband. Mr. Wheeler immediately told Mrs. Wheeler about what was taking place. The Wheelers decided that it was in their best interest to leave Prince George's Hospital Center and seek medical care for Mr. Wheeler elsewhere."
Mrs. Wheeler confirmed with nurses outside her husband's room that he was scheduled for cancer surgery, and when she told the nurses that she and her husband were leaving, "an argument ensued."
According to the increasingly bizarre complaint, Mr. Wheeler, "hearing the argument, took out his I/V, got out of the hospital bed, put his clothes on, and started to walk out of the room. He was bleeding from the spot on his hand where that I/V had been connected.
"Mrs. Wheeler and the nurse met Mr. Wheeler at the door. The nurse told Mr. Wheeler that he was not allowed to leave. She put a bandage on Mr. Wheeler's hand to stop the bleeding from the I/V spot, and then yelled for security.
"Mr. Wheeler, now bandaged and clothed, began to walk toward the exit of the floor while his wife gathered the rest of his belongings. As he moved toward the exit, two large men in security uniforms moved quickly toward Mr. Wheeler."
These men, defendants William Reese and Donovan Scott, worked for the hospital and/or defendant Broadway Services, according to the complaint. The Wheelers say the two security guards were "immediately hostile."
"Defendant Scott harshly asked, 'Where do you think you're going?' Mr. Wheeler told both Reese and Scott that his business was finished at the hospital and that he was on his way out," the complaint states.
"In the moments immediately following this exchange, defendant Scott began to appear angry and upset with Mr. Wheeler. He began to use profanity directed at Mr. Wheeler about getting back to Wheeler's 'damn room.'
"At this point the two officers put on black padded gloves in front of Mr. Wheeler and defendant Scott started to hit his fist against his own hand and moved closer in proximity to Wheeler's face. Defendant Scott appeared angry and agitated."
Wheeler, "in fear for his safety," tried to reason with the guards.
"He told the officers that he had been in a serious car accident and suffered from multiple injuries to the torso and shoulders. Wheeler also told the officers that he was retired from the St. Mary's County Sheriff's Office and that he knew that the security officers had no right or authority to detain him. Wheeler stated that he wanted to leave."
At that point, Wheeler says, Scott grabbed him and shoved him "hard from behind into the adjacent wall and metal railing," hurting his ribs.
The complaint continues: "Mr. Wheeler, in serious pain and feeling like he was going to black out, fell to floor. Defendant Scott stood over him and yelled, 'Get off the floor bitch! This game is over!'
"Defendant Scott continued, 'I don't care who you think you are, this is my camp, you listen to what I got to say!' The vocal officer then grabbed Mr. Wheeler and pulled him up off of the ground as Wheeler pleaded with the officer to stop hurting him.
"At this point the defendant Reese said to the vocal officer, 'Man, ease up on him. He might really be hurt.' Defendant Scott replied, 'Hell no, he don't come up in here and be telling us what the fuck to do!'"
As the two guards "escorted" him back to his room, "Scott accused Wheeler of attempting to push the second officer down a flight of stairs," and "continued to shout expletives at Wheeler," according to the complaint.
Wheeler says the men took him to the hospital security office, where an unidentified lieutenant questioned him.
"After Mr. Wheeler explained what had happened, the lieutenant looked at Wheeler's hospital-provided identification bracelet and acknowledged that Wheeler had been misidentified," Wheeler says.
But that was not the end of the conflict. Wheeler says the lieutenant became agitated when he would not return the incorrect bracelet, and ordered the security guards to stop him from leaving.
He says a plainclothes hospital employee, a woman he identifies as an "administrator ... intervened in the conversation" and after he explained the situation, said she would make sure he "would have his own private room and any type of drug he wanted, just to name the pain killer."
Wheeler says he and his wife chose to leave the hospital, but when he tried to leave with the incorrect ID bracelet, one of the security guards "charged Wheeler, again calling Wheeler 'bitch,' and shoved him against the wall."
"Mr. Wheeler spent the next three days at St. Mary's Hospital and was diagnosed with four broken ribs, a sprained shoulder, a ruptured spleen, and a concussion," he says.
The Wheelers seek $3.2 million in compensatory damages and $9.5 million in punitive damages for assault and battery, false imprisonment and infliction of emotional distress.
They are represented by Bryan Dugan with Dugan, McKissick, Wood & Longmore of Lexington Park, Md.

Can't find any pics of the perps, but I'd lay a thousand to one the guards were affirmative action cases. Easiest $1 I would ever have made.

RedStripe
08-28-2010, 10:10 PM
do you understand the meaning of the words "general politics"?

Anti Federalist
08-28-2010, 10:24 PM
Just another day in Amerika...

Speechless, I am.

speciallyblend
08-28-2010, 10:39 PM
glad you posted it here. dam scary story! he posted in politics section because this section gets more viewers, next time just post ,register to vote and become a republican and be a delegate .then it is politics related;)

Anti Federalist
08-28-2010, 10:44 PM
And another thing, what qualifies private security goons to be "officers" and "lieutenants"?

johngr
08-28-2010, 10:47 PM
do you understand the meaning of the words "general politics"?

The statement behind that question which you know the answer to, barbed with an insult calling into question my intelligence, is that my post is not topical. My answer is, yes and for my purposes, I don't care, neither about the statement nor the question.

speciallyblend
08-28-2010, 10:49 PM
The statement behind that question which you know the answer to, barbed with an insult calling into question my intelligence, is that my post is not topical. My answer is, yes and for my purposes, I don't care, neither about the statement nor the question.

thanks for posting the story;)

IPSecure
08-28-2010, 10:50 PM
He says a plainclothes hospital employee, a woman he identifies as an "administrator ... intervened in the conversation" and after he explained the situation, said she would make sure he "would have his own private room and any type of drug he wanted, just to name the pain killer."

Drug Bribes?

coastie
08-28-2010, 10:50 PM
Horrifying story to be sure, I'd sue the fuck out of that hospital as well.:mad:



http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/08/25/29858.htm


Can't find any pics of the perps, but I'd lay a thousand to one the guards were affirmative action cases. Easiest $1 I would ever have made.

:confused: And you came up with that how, exactly?

johngr
08-28-2010, 10:51 PM
Just another day in Amerika...

Speechless, I am.

Has there been an increase in security guards abusing their petty powers? Or is this an aberration (and not a surprising one, considering the county in Maryland where the abuse took place). I can't imagine something like this happening in Wyoming or New Hampshire.

Anti Federalist
08-28-2010, 10:56 PM
Has there been an increase in security guards abusing their petty powers?

They're just following the cops lead.

jake
08-28-2010, 10:56 PM
How the hell is this a professional way to resolve the situation?! jesus christ!


He says a plainclothes hospital employee, a woman he identifies as an "administrator ... intervened in the conversation" and after he explained the situation, said she would make sure he "would have his own private room and any type of drug he wanted, just to name the pain killer."

johngr
08-28-2010, 11:01 PM
Horrifying story to be sure, I'd sue the fuck out of that hospital as well.:mad:




:confused: And you came up with that how, exactly?

From the area where it occurred the type of particular verbal abuse and abuse of petty power. Nothing on http://www.thugreport.com/ yet, though.

MelissaWV
08-29-2010, 07:13 AM
Prince George's County does have a large minority population. Of course, that would imply you don't need an "Affirmative Action case" for the people involved to be of a darker complexion.

Most of the officers Anti Federalist posts about are of a lighter complexion. Where's your snarky comment on those? :rolleyes:


Wheeler also told the officers that he was retired from the St. Mary's County Sheriff's Office and that he knew that the security officers had no right or authority to detain him.

Was Wheeler also an "Affirmative Action case"? It's fine if you're going to be a douche, but you should really be consistent, y'know ;)

noxagol
08-29-2010, 07:29 AM
I wonder if these two asshats were off duty police officers.

JustinTime
08-29-2010, 07:44 AM
Prince George's County does have a large minority population. Of course, that would imply you don't need an "Affirmative Action case" for the people involved to be of a darker complexion.

Most of the officers Anti Federalist posts about are of a lighter complexion. Where's your snarky comment on those? :rolleyes:



Was Wheeler also an "Affirmative Action case"? It's fine if you're going to be a douche, but you should really be consistent, y'know ;)

There is no such thing as affirmative action for lighter complexioned people.

Affirmative action is a totally unjust and discriminatory policy that divides people up into arbitrary groups with no scientific basis. If we dont like the bad reputation it has, if we cant stomach jokes about AA giving jobs to those who arent necessarily the best qualified (which is exactly what it does), we should chunk it into the dustbin of history along with Jim Crow.

MelissaWV
08-29-2010, 07:56 AM
There is no such thing as affirmative action for lighter complexioned people.

Affirmative action is a totally unjust and discriminatory policy that divides people up into arbitrary groups with no scientific basis. If we dont like the bad reputation it has, if we cant stomach jokes about AA giving jobs to those who arent necessarily the best qualified (which is exactly what it does), we should chunk it into the dustbin of history along with Jim Crow.

I know what AA is, thanks, and yes there is Affirmative Action for people with light complexions (as long as they don't have a penis, mind you). It's a ridiculous policy.

The euphemism in the OP for "I bet these guys are underqualified darkies," however, is ridiculous and uncalled-for. It's also not a standard applied to the other policeman in the article (the victim), or all the other police-related beating stories on the forums. There's no basis for any such implication, but if you want to chalk it up to not being able to take a joke, go for it.

If you take your first sentence at face value, though, you'll reread the article and wonder where the OP got any impression of complexion at all.

JustinTime
08-29-2010, 08:16 AM
I know what AA is, thanks, and yes there is Affirmative Action for people with light complexions (as long as they don't have a penis, mind you). It's a ridiculous policy.

The euphemism in the OP for "I bet these guys are underqualified darkies," however, is ridiculous and uncalled-for. It's also not a standard applied to the other policeman in the article (the victim), or all the other police-related beating stories on the forums. There's no basis for any such implication, but if you want to chalk it up to not being able to take a joke, go for it.

If you take your first sentence at face value, though, you'll reread the article and wonder where the OP got any impression of complexion at all.

Im not simply chalking it up to a joke, the policy needs to be mocked, stigmatized and shamed. Even if it is in a clunky, ridiculous "where'd the hell that come from?!?" way.

Anti Federalist
08-29-2010, 01:17 PM
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Anti Federalist
08-29-2010, 01:29 PM
If you take your first sentence at face value, though, you'll reread the article and wonder where the OP got any impression of complexion at all.

FWIW, the location of the hospital and this quote:


Defendant Scott replied, 'Hell no, he don't come up in here and be telling us what the fuck to do!'"

That's where the Freepers got that impression as well.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2577304/posts

Infowars picking up the story now.

http://www.infowars.com/nightmarish-hospital-visit-capped-by-beating-accident-victim-says/

Anti Federalist
08-29-2010, 08:42 PM
Bump, this is a really horrid story, notwithstanding any racial overtones.

Philhelm
08-30-2010, 01:41 AM
What am I looking for in the original post on this thread? Isn't this standard operating procedure? Good work, security, for getting the dangerous, belligerent, wounded, misidentified scumbag in line.

MelissaWV
08-30-2010, 07:16 AM
FWIW, the location of the hospital and this quote:

That's where the Freepers got that impression as well.
...

I used to live in PeeGee County for quite some time, and that type of talk is quite common from the minority there (lighter-skinned people). Being that the area is quite predominantly made up of darker-skinned people, the implication this is "Affirmative Action at work" is bogus. Considering how many of the people beating up, tasing, and shooting folks from behind a badge in your posts are white-as-Casper, if race were really a factor I'd expect it to have been pointed out there, too, but it isn't :rolleyes:

If we're going to make assumptions, by the way, why doesn't the victim deserve it (being that he's an ex-cop and black, to boot; probably hired via Affirmative Action!) ;)

Sorry, it's just ridiculous that there's a story that's more than horrifying, but someone has to toss in their racist two cents in just for good measure. Then again, maybe it's not racist. Maybe it's just being psychic, knowing someone's history and how they got hired and why, based purely on their names and locations and how they speak.

fisharmor
08-30-2010, 07:33 AM
Has there been an increase in security guards abusing their petty powers? Or is this an aberration (and not a surprising one, considering the county in Maryland where the abuse took place). I can't imagine something like this happening in Wyoming or New Hampshire.

I can't imagine this happening right across the river in Virginia.

Maryland is just a shithole. Every single night you turn on the local news, and all the horrible stuff happening is either going on in DC or Montgomery/PG counties.

'Course, our hospitals are all owned by the same monopoly corporation in NoVA, and we learned as soon as we had kids that it's gotta be a genuine life-or-death situation to set foot in one of them, 'cause otherwise it's a 4-12 hour wait.

MelissaWV
08-30-2010, 07:56 AM
I can't imagine this happening right across the river in Virginia.

Maryland is just a shithole. Every single night you turn on the local news, and all the horrible stuff happening is either going on in DC or Montgomery/PG counties.

'Course, our hospitals are all owned by the same monopoly corporation in NoVA, and we learned as soon as we had kids that it's gotta be a genuine life-or-death situation to set foot in one of them, 'cause otherwise it's a 4-12 hour wait.

I sympathize. In Miami it could literally be more than a day before you're seen at Baptist (which is where my aunt/uncle have to go when something goes wrong). Despite not being in a terrible area, they still get accident and gunshot victims, and those get to cut in line ahead of you. All the while, you get to sit around in the ER answering questions every few hours (if you're lucky), and eventually get seen by someone who glances at you and appraises your condition. Maryland's hospitals were not much better. North Florida's hospitals, despite still having a bit of a wait, are not that bad. West Virginia's ER was glorious, and took care of me (as a walk-in) within probably ten minutes or so.

Urgent Care Centers are a pretty good solution, but if you go to the ER, spring for the ambulance. It usually gets you a room right off the bat.

Anti Federalist
08-30-2010, 11:31 AM
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Anti Federalist
09-01-2010, 06:54 PM
"Little girl dies of asthma attack while cops detain mother for traffic tickets, denying medical assistance" bump

johngr
09-02-2010, 05:11 AM
Sorry, it's just ridiculous that there's a story that's more than horrifying, but someone has to toss in their racist two cents in just for good measure. Then again, maybe it's not racist. Maybe it's just being psychic, knowing someone's history and how they got hired and why, based purely on their names and locations and how they speak.

My bet offer stands.

MelissaWV
09-02-2010, 05:52 AM
My bet offer stands.

Your "bet" is about how the security guards were hired, which is something that cannot be verified unless, for some strange reason, the company came right out and said it, which would give the guards grounds for a nice lawsuit later on down the line (hiring information is generally private unless it's something that's legitimately relevant to the case, like a prior bad act that was ignored during hiring, etc.). I'm guessing that you'll consider it a "win" merely if the security guards were "dark enough" for you to crow that there's no way they were hired on their own merits. Given the difficulty one would have in even finding any great number of applicants with a light complexion in that area, it is actually incredibly unlikely AA had anything to do with it. Even the demographics numbers are skewed for PG County, because for instance those people living in Bowie are not likely to want to take a security job of this nature in that particular location. There are better jobs locally.

But hey, you know all about the area :rolleyes: so you know for certain that these guys were products of AA hiring practices. I notice you didn't make mention of the victim's skin color, yet again. Is it only important when there's a negative association, so you can make your snarky comment that's impossible to prove beyond all doubt? Yeah, I thought so.

specsaregood
09-02-2010, 06:26 AM
My oh my, look at how racism divides. What should have been a fairly unifying thread around here turns into pointless bickering of the likely color of the guards and the hiring practices that put them in place both of which are completely irrelevant to this situation.

fisharmor
09-02-2010, 06:51 AM
My oh my, look at how racism divides. What should have been a fairly unifying thread around here turns into pointless bickering of the likely color of the guards and the hiring practices that put them in place both of which are completely irrelevant to this situation.

Well, I'm in favor of their castration no matter what their color.
Yet in some people's minds, that makes me a racist.

specsaregood
09-02-2010, 07:13 AM
Well, I'm in favor of their castration no matter what their color.

Yes, well that was the: "should have been a fairly unifying thread around here" attitude I was speaking of. :)

Anti Federalist
09-02-2010, 10:35 AM
My oh my, look at how racism divides. What should have been a fairly unifying thread around here turns into pointless bickering of the likely color of the guards and the hiring practices that put them in place both of which are completely irrelevant to this situation.

No shit and +1.

I'm trying to ignore it as much as possible, in spite of some posts that would do otherwise.

The OP made the comment on the race of the thugs, not me. That being said, based on the way the comments were phrased and the location of the hospital, I'd say he was probably right.

And guess what?...it doesn't really matter.

The skin of the thugs tasing me or the color of the skin of the foot in the boot on my neck doesn't really matter.

johngr
09-02-2010, 11:32 AM
My oh my, look at how racism divides. What should have been a fairly unifying thread around here turns into pointless bickering of the likely color of the guards and the hiring practices that put them in place both of which are completely irrelevant to this situation.

The division, irreconcilable, is between liberal creationists http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab357/onestdv/chartlibcrea.jpg and race realists or HBDers (human biodiversity). The division isn't going anywhere, though occasionally, one or the other changes his position (nearly always in the direction of liberal creationist > race realist).

MelissaWV
09-02-2010, 02:09 PM
My oh my, look at how racism divides. What should have been a fairly unifying thread around here turns into pointless bickering of the likely color of the guards and the hiring practices that put them in place both of which are completely irrelevant to this situation.

The race of the guards, and why they were hired, isn't relevant, no. In fact, to think it is seems to me to be an attempt to excuse the whole thing. This was disgusting, and it's par for the course. There are a lot of security guards who abuse their authority, and even a "good" one comes into a heated situation where they have to figure out what's going on and act in short order. The good ones just don't react that way :(

johngr
09-03-2010, 12:49 AM
When I flew out of BMI to Copenhagen, the TSA agents of colour manning the the luggage x-ray machines were (I kid you not), laying aside (or more likely incapable of) any decorum, having a conversation about what being booked into the Baltimore jail was like which both shared their experiences of. From listening to that, maybe my opinion of AA is a little skewed, but if I'm correct, I'm sure Mr. Wheeler would have preferred while going through his ordeal, that the hospital hire its personnel based on competence alone.

MelissaWV
09-03-2010, 08:48 AM
Perhaps they were tickled by your inability to know the airport's name.

johngr
09-03-2010, 03:52 PM
Perhaps they were tickled by your inability to know the airport's name.

They never quizzed me on airport codes. You OTOH seem to be tickled that I didn't remember it. I don't remember the gate number, flight number or the ticket agent's name, either. Not even the specific date, as it was four years ago. I do remember that one of the stewardesses took me as an Icelander and started talking to me in Icelandic and seemed impressed that I could speak so little Icelandic as, "ég taler ekki Islensku".

MelissaWV
09-03-2010, 04:47 PM
They never quizzed me on airport codes. You OTOH seem to be tickled that I didn't remember it. I don't remember the gate number, flight number or the ticket agent's name, either. Not even the specific date, as it was four years ago. I do remember that one of the stewardesses took me as an Icelander and started talking to me in Icelandic and seemed impressed that I could speak so little Icelandic as, "ég taler ekki Islensku".

I'm not ticked, I just find your priorities odd, as they were throughout this entire thread. You seem "familiar" with the area, but didn't realize you flew out of Baltimore-Washington International --- not Body Mass Index --- Airport. Perhaps you are equally as mistaken in some of your other conclusions. :)

specsaregood
09-03-2010, 04:48 PM
You seem "familiar" with the area, but didn't realize you flew out of Baltimore-Washington International --- not Body Mass Index --- Airport.
Perhaps he meant it as Bowel Movement International airport?

johngr
09-04-2010, 02:19 AM
I'm not ticked, I just find your priorities odd, as they were throughout this entire thread. You seem "familiar" with the area, but didn't realize you flew out of Baltimore-Washington International --- not Body Mass Index --- Airport. Perhaps you are equally as mistaken in some of your other conclusions. :)

I made an abbreviation error, therefore my entire argument is faulty. Okay, whatever you say. BTM, I found it rather shocking that in the more "diverse" parts of Baltimore, people would walk right out in front of a speeding car and proceed at an artificially slow pace, as if daring people to hit them. Some apparently are unlucky with such a strategy, like this guy (hat tip http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/hbd-human-biodiversity/natural-selection-caught-on-film/
youtube.com/watch?v=MybLkDp3IEY
I kept my doors locked, the petrol tank always at least half full and a defensive weapon at the ready when driving through such areas.