Ron Paul on 2012: "Degree of Support Will be a Major Factor in Decision"

[MRoCkEd]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/63845.html


I have said publicly several times that it has not been ruled out. Certainly the decision will not occur in 2010. Assessing the degree of support will be a very major factor in making the decision. And note: there was no announcement in Orlando.

[Matt Collins]

YouTube - Ron Paul Will Run in 2012? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgu1xV8cIqw&feature=player_embedded)

[Agorism]

Is JBS running CPAC again? That's what we need.

[low preference guy]

Is JBS running CPAC again? That's what we need.

Didn't they sponsor CPAC? There is a big difference between running and sponsoring. Had they run it, they wouldn't call reporters after they left to capture the crowd booing Ron Paul on camera, after he won the Presidential straw poll.

[RedStripe]

I can't wait for the opportunity to support Ron Paul. I hope he puts more of an emphasis on a third-party/independent coalition like he did at the end of his last bid for the presidency. That is the only political strategy that has the potential to shake the fundamentals of our political system, in my opinion.

Our system is built to withstand rough seas; to co-opt, suppress, slightly appease, or adapt to the angry masses and reform movements. What we need is a tsunami... a hurricane... a fucking shit storm that rejects the basic rules of the game (the most basic being that there are only 2 sides to every debate). We need to rock the fucking elite to their core.

[2young2vote]

The support is probably 100,000 times what it was the last time he decided to run (literally). Within 1 month of him announcing his presidential bid he will have supporters going door to door and handing out fliers until election day.

[RedStripe]

The support is probably 100,000 times what it was the last time he decided to run (literally). Within 1 month of him announcing his presidential bid he will have supporters going door to door and handing out fliers until election day.

Yea, and the official campaign should be staffed and funded to reflect this. They have no excuse this time, and have every reason to be prepared. They need to have the best campaign website ever created and more.

[RedStripe]

Get involved in your local GOP

*barf*

[KurtBoyer25L]

I think the first question we have to ask is, what are some tangible ways we can show Ron Paul himself our support for 2012 before Jan. 2011? It's not enough that we show it to one another.

(Yeah, yeah...that's what she said)

[Bergie Bergeron]

Start by donating to Rand I guess, it is Ron Paul's birthday after all.

[RedStripe]

then FAIL again

lol if you only knew how much effort i put into trying to educate my local GOP last time around. I'm not saying I won't try again, but that it has to be the absolute worst part of the political process.

[KurtBoyer25L]

Well, alright. But we should think about this long-term as well.

I notice looking at the recent donors' ticker, it would seem to indicate judging by names that those of many different colors & creeds are donating to Rand. That has to be heartening and hopeful for the Old Man, even though we're short of 500,000$.

[Matt Collins]

lol if you only knew how much effort i put into trying to educate my local GOP last time around. I'm not saying I won't try again, but that it has to be the absolute worst part of the political process.
Winning votes and changing the hearts and minds of others are not one in the same.

[RedStripe]

Winning votes and changing the hearts and minds of others are not one in the same.

They are pretty closely related when you are trying to convince someone to vote for "the guy that hates Amurrica"

[parocks]

I hope not.

"Isn't that election a year away? Leave me alone."

He could consider saying "If I get 20 Million $ (or however much) from my supporters by November 15 (or whenever), I'll run for President." Or "I'll start running for President when I get $20 million."


The support is probably 100,000 times what it was the last time he decided to run (literally). Within 1 month of him announcing his presidential bid he will have supporters going door to door and handing out fliers until election day.

[silentshout]

*barf*

I would also need a barf bag to do that where i live. I would rather support him from a coalition of independents voting for Ron Paul if that is possible. I would work with the Gop if i had to, but I would prefer to find another way.

[MRoCkEd]

Any ideas for showing him support?

[Matt Collins]

Any ideas for showing him support?Get Rand enough money to win by a landslide. Then get involved in your local GOP and get your precinct program in place.

[Matt Collins]

YouTube - Ron Paul 2012 - Let the Race Begin! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7-lIYERors&feature=player_embedded)

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

Any ideas for showing him support?

If a bunch of people sent him personal letters, that may help. That's what I suggested at http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=253691

[speciallyblend]

ron paul 2012 will not happen unless folks join the gop and become delegates and get involved. anything less and you need to wake up from your wet dreams!!!!

[speciallyblend]

Any ideas for showing him support?

join the republican party and become a delegate and get involved. that is the bottom line, anything less is a wet dream!

[LibertarianfromGermany]

How about you stop your annoying spam? It's really a pain to go through threads here only to find that half of the posts are just you spamming again.

[low preference guy]

how about you stop your annoying spam? It's really a pain to go through threads here only to find that half of the posts are just you spamming again.

-1000

[speciallyblend]

How about you stop your annoying spam? It's really a pain to go through threads here only to find that half of the posts are just you spamming again.

yeah spam= register republican and become a delegate. I guess Ron paul is spam when he tells you this. he has said this from day one but your ignore the very guy you say you support! get f'in real

you guys and gals want to do everything but what RON PAUL ASKED YOU TO DO!!!

[speciallyblend]

How about you stop your annoying spam? It's really a pain to go through threads here only to find that half of the posts are just you spamming again.

you can always flag my post as spam. I am sure Ron Paul Forums will find it laughable that your flagging it, when all i am saying is register republican and become a delegate and get involved to win Ron Paul the gop nomination in 2012!
i double dare you and now that you brought it up. I will remind you whenever i see you post!

stop bitching and do what your Man ron paul told you to do from day one, get Involved ,Register republican and become a delegate or get others to. anything less is a waste of time!

i would love to be banned from RPF for telling folks to register republican and become a delegate and get involved.
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[Eric21ND]

May idea for a long time has been to organize a $10 million dollar money bomb the day Ron Paul annouces his campaign.

[parocks]

You are right.


you can always flag my post as spam. I am sure Ron Paul Forums will find it laughable that your flagging it, when all i am saying is register republican and become a delegate and get involved to win Ron Paul the gop nomination in 2012!
i double dare you and now that you brought it up. I will remind you whenever i see you post!

stop bitching and do what your Man ron paul told you to do from day one, get Involved ,Register republican and become a delegate or get others to. anything less is a waste of time!

i would love to be banned from RPF for telling folks to register republican and become a delegate and get involved.
.

[Matt Collins]

FUNDRAISING IS KEY

Ron Paul's fundraising growth was exponential in 2007-2008. Lets start the exponential growth 10 months earlier for 2011-2012.

One of the reasons Paul got as much media attention that he got in 2007-2008 (especially later in 2007) was his ability to harness our grassroots financial support - support that is reported and is one of few things the media covering the election has to cover. Lets make Ron the frontrunner financially EARLY and he WILL NOT be ignored.


Timeline of events:

January 2011 Ron Paul forms exploratory committee

Q1 2011 starts Jan 1 - March 31 2011, and is reported on April 15.

This is analgous to Q1 2007 (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008-presidential-candidates/finance/2007/q1/) where Ron raised $639k:
Republicans $53,204,874
Mitt Romney $20,737,149
Rudy Giuliani $14,731,897
John McCain $12,992,655
Tom Tancredo $1,311,533
Ron Paul $639,889
Mike Huckabee $544,880
Duncan Hunter $499,874
Tommy Thompson $315,036

OUR Goal starting THE DAY HE ANNOUNCES FORMING AN EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE should be to raise at least $10 million dollars by March 2011. (Q1)

Q2 2011 - Our goal should be $20 million to keep him in frontrunner status:

Results from Q2 2007 (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008-presidential-candidates/finance/2007/q2/)
Republicans $49,673,752
Rudy Giuliani $17,267,287
Mitt Romney $13,793,151
John McCain $11,187,821
Ron Paul $2,357,423
Tom Tancredo $1,465,776
Duncan Hunter $803,383
Mike Huckabee $763,618
Tommy Thompson $458,967

Q3 2011 - The ball shall continue to roll, and the freedom movement shall envelope this country.

Here's Q3 2007: (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008-presidential-candidates/finance/2007/q3/)
Republicans $47,464,436
Fred Thompso$12,717,993
Rudy Giuliani $11,253,552
Mitt Romney $9,533,269
John McCain $5,466,904
Ron Paul $5,204,218
Mike Huckabee $1,031,679
Tom Tancredo $747,539
Duncan Hunter $486,337
Tommy Thompson $195,725
Alan Keyes $21,218


Ron Paul got most of his fundraising in Q4 2007 - when it mattered the least fundraising-wise - the numbers aren't published until mid-January, when the early primaries are already over and the game is up and he's been called a "long-shot" too many times to remember. Lets change the MSM's adjective of choice from "long-shot" to "moneybags" and "wildly popular."

Most of Ron Paul's $34 million came at the end, in November and December of 2007, when it was too late to do as much good as EARLIER.

Imagine if Ron, instead of raising $25 million in November and December and January had gotten it 8-10 months earlier! We'd have at least double the support we have now, Paul would be even more of a household name - the freedom movement would have been in a stronger position - who knows what would have happened!?


The government (Federal Election Commission) dictates individuals can give a maximum of $2400 per person ($4800 per married couple). (http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/citizens.shtml#fn2)

A few suggestions:
START SAVING NOW.
1. I'm maxing out and encouraging my friends to do the same. In a fight there are times to save onto your ammo and times to fire with all you've got - Jan 2011 lets fire the shot heard around the world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord_Hymn).

2. Join your local tea party and tell them Ron Paul started the modern tea party movement. Lets earn their hearts and minds.

3. I posit that a money bomb should be planned for some time in Jan, Feb., or March 2011 to put our campaign in a competitive position and gain financial-frontrunner status.

4. Meetup groups

http://ronpaulgraphs.com/ (http://ronpaulgraphs.com/) - note all the major money bombs occurred 10 months before they MUST this time around. This is necessary, but not sufficient, to win.

http://ronpaulgraphs.com/thumb_all_time_total.png?911.png
For math geeks, lets shift the curve to the left.

Info on primaries: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/ (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/)

Better list of suggestions:http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=232814 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=232814)

Avery J. Knapp Jr., M.D.
Helped run the Greater NYC Ron Paul Action Meetup (http://www.meetup.com/campaignforlibertynyc/) (and helped start it in May 2007, end of Q2, shortly after I heard about Ron Paul).

SOURCE:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2878691&postcount=144

[puppetmaster]

maybe he should join the CIA....I hear it helps get you elected

[puppetmaster]

ron paul 2012 will not happen unless folks join the gop and become delegates and get involved. anything less and you need to wake up from your wet dreams!!!!

yea we need to join and become national and state chair persons this year;)......they are the ones that control the outcome,not the delegates

[MelissaWV]

yea we need to join and become national and state chair persons this year;)......they are the ones that control the outcome,not the delegates

This varies state to state.

[speciallyblend]

beckin, Towelie says Don't forget to Register Republican, Become a Delegate and Get Involved!!! wanna get high?

YouTube - South Park- Towelie Quotes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA6EHCrgZC0)