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FrankRep
08-18-2010, 07:33 PM
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Fidel Castro fascinated by book on Bilderberg Club (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ixj3s-khJwpcfPSqYbjoTDnq2oaAD9HM2NVG0)


Associated Press
Aug 18, 2010


Fidel Castro is showcasing a theory long popular both among the far left and far right: that the shadowy Bilderberg Group has become a kind of global government, controlling not only international politics and economics, but even culture.

The 84-year-old former Cuban president published an article Wednesday that used three of the only eight pages in the Communist Party newspaper Granma to quote — largely verbatim — from a 2006 book by Lithuanian-born writer Daniel Estulin.

Estulin's work, "The Secrets of the Bilderberg Club," argues that the international group largely runs the world. It has held a secretive annual forum of prominent politicians, thinkers and businessmen since it was founded in 1954 at the Bilderberg Hotel in Holland.

Castro offered no comment on the excerpts other than to describe Estulin as honest and well-informed and to call his book a "fantastic story."
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The excerpt published by Castro suggested that the esoteric Frankfurt School of socialist academics worked with members of the Rockefeller family in the 1950s to pave the way for rock music to "control the masses" by diverting attention from civil rights and social injustice.

"The man charged with ensuring that the Americans liked the Beatles was Walter Lippmann himself," the excerpt asserted, referring to a political philosopher and by-then-staid newspaper columnist who died in 1974.

"In the United States and Europe, great open-air rock concerts were used to halt the growing discontent of the population," the excerpt said.

Castro — who had an inside seat to the Cold War — has long expressed suspicions of back-room plots. He has raised questions about whether the Sept. 11 attacks were orchestrated by the U.S. government to stoke military budgets and, more recently suggested that Washington was behind the March sinking of a South Korean ship blamed on North Korea.
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SOURCE:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ixj3s-khJwpcfPSqYbjoTDnq2oaAD9HM2NVG0

FrankRep
08-18-2010, 07:36 PM
Flashback:

Texas Governor Rick Perry Attends Bilderberg Group Meeting in Istanbul, 2007

YouTube - TX Gov. Rick Perry Attends Bilderberg in Istanbul, 2007 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90jfQrb4wAE)


Bilderberger Confab in United States Goes Unreported … Again
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/foreign-policy/207-bilderberger-confab-in-united-states-goes-unreported-again

Bush, Bilderbergers Push EU Membership for Turkey
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/foreign-policy/208-bush-bilderbergers-push-eu-membership-for-turkey

Dropping All Pretenses About “Global Governance”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/610

Bilderbergs Hold Annual Meeting in Greece
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/1137

Secretive Bilderberg Group Meets in Spain
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/3713-secretive-bilderberg-group-meets-in-spain

Bilderberg Group Met and Discussed — What?
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/3733-bilderberg-group-met-and-discussed-what

RedStripe
08-18-2010, 07:46 PM
Haha, that's pretty funny. Fidel knows what's up.

FrankRep
08-18-2010, 07:48 PM
Video: The History of Cultural Marxism and The Frankfurt School


YouTube - Political Correctness - Cultural Marxism 1of3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfFjCpG82mo)

YouTube - Political Correctness - Cultural Marxism 2of3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hW7CYVu4As)

YouTube - Political Correctness - Cultural Marxism 3of3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n0vAi3cxJA)

RedStripe
08-18-2010, 07:50 PM
Ok, the very first sentence uttered in the very first video is a massive lie to anyone know knows a lick about the history of the United States.

I can't believe people actually think this conspiracy-tinged garbage is true.

FrankRep
08-18-2010, 07:54 PM
Ok, the very first sentence uttered in the very first video is a massive lie to anyone know knows a lick about the history of the United States.

Massive lie? Americans are not free to say what they think.

Latest examples:

Timothy Horrigan (D-NH) State Rep. Resigns After "Dead Palin" Comment
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257072

Dr. Laura Quits Show After N-Word Controversy
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257522

Free speech zones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

RedStripe
08-18-2010, 08:05 PM
Massive lie? Americans are not free to say what they think.

Latest examples:

Timothy Horrigan (D-NH) State Rep. Resigns After "Dead Palin" Comment
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257072

Dr. Laura Quits Show After N-Word Controversy
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257522

Free speech zones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

"For the first time.." hahaha, clearly the speaker doesn't know anything about the long history of speech suppression in the United States, or I guess speech suppression only shows up on hist little radar if the person is a conservative.

It's the same thing as when the more thick-skulled members of the tea party movement say "this isn't my America anymore" and "Obama's put this country on the wrong track" and "i want my country back" as if the shenanigans in Washington are something new. It only becomes an issue when it affects middle-class, mainstream America. Who cares if abolitionists were jailed, beaten, killed. What about slaves who weren't free to speak their mind, much less live independent lives from their masters? What about the laborers, the strikers, the socialists, the anti-war activists of the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries who were jailed and suppressed for speaking their mind?

Of course the dunce in the video is going to ignore all those things, because he just wants to boo hoo about how everyone in modern society will call you out for spewing racist or sexist comments. Cry. Me. A. River.

FrankRep
08-18-2010, 08:10 PM
Massive lie? Americans are not free to say what they think.

Hate Crime Bill Is A Trojan Horse Against Free Speech
http://www.infowars.com/hate-crime-bill-is-a-trojan-horse-against-free-speech/

Hate Crime Laws: Criminalizing Free Speech
http://www.infowars.net/articles/october2005/311005hatebill.htm

RedStripe
08-18-2010, 08:12 PM
Hate Crime Bill Is A Trojan Horse Against Free Speech
http://www.infowars.com/hate-crime-bill-is-a-trojan-horse-against-free-speech/

Hate Crime Laws: Criminalizing Free Speech
http://www.infowars.net/articles/october2005/311005hatebill.htm

It's a lie to say that now, due to "political correctness" and/or hate speech laws, Americans are for the first time not allowed to speak freely. It's just that for the last 200+ years, it's been the radicals and the leftists and the opponents of slavery and the status quo who have been violently suppressed.

And this guy is gonna sit here and whine about not being about to say racist things as if it's some "new" thing that there are limits to speech imposed by the state? He's gonna sit here and belittle and ignore the massive history of the United States just to whine about political correctness? What a joke.

FrankRep
08-18-2010, 08:14 PM
And this guy is gonna sit here and whine about not being about to say racist things as if it's some "new" thing that there are limits to speech imposed by the state?

He didn't say anything racist. :rolleyes:

RedStripe
08-18-2010, 08:19 PM
He didn't say anything racist. :rolleyes:

lol, I never said he did. I said that he was complaining about how "political correctness" suppresses unpopular speech, such as speech that is considered racist. Not a cause I find particularly sympathetic (although, of course, I do believe in absolute free speech - but the people who have been historically denied free speech are the political/racial/social minorities i mentioned above, of which the speaker is clearly oblivious).

michaelwise
08-18-2010, 08:28 PM
Video: The History of Cultural Marxism and The Frankfurt School


YouTube - Political Correctness - Cultural Marxism 1of3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfFjCpG82mo)

YouTube - Political Correctness - Cultural Marxism 2of3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hW7CYVu4As)

YouTube - Political Correctness - Cultural Marxism 3of3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n0vAi3cxJA)What is the ultimate goal of Cultural Marxism?

To make everyone act a certain way with sensitivity training irrespective of human nature? And what does that lead to? Nations of compliant sheeple? It seems to me that will only work for short spans of time till war or economies collapse. Then society reverts back to every man for himself as is now happening. Screw the social engineering and just allow everyone be who they want to be.

michaelwise
08-18-2010, 08:31 PM
Massive lie? Americans are not free to say what they think.

Latest examples:

Timothy Horrigan (D-NH) State Rep. Resigns After "Dead Palin" Comment
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257072

Dr. Laura Quits Show After N-Word Controversy
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257522

Free speech zones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zonePeople like Dr. Laura just need to tell others who try to scold them to Go Fuck Themselves.

RedStripe
08-18-2010, 08:39 PM
Massive lie? Americans are not free to say what they think.

Latest examples:

Timothy Horrigan (D-NH) State Rep. Resigns After "Dead Palin" Comment
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257072

Dr. Laura Quits Show After N-Word Controversy
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257522

Free speech zones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

When it's convenient, conservatives define freedom as the absence of state coercion:

:mad: :"Man, it's not fair that I'm forced to either sell my labor to a capitalist or starve"
:cool: :"Heh, so long as no one is putting a gun to your head to do something, it's your free choice to either sell your labor or starve. You are free."

On the other hand, they'll define "freedom" (see FrankRep's statement above that Amurricans aren't free to say what they think) as meaning freedom from the consequences of being a racist or a moron.

:( : "When public pressure forces me to resign for saying something racist, or I lose my job because I'm not being politically correct, my freedom is being violated."

Haha, it's so pathetic. Yeah, Dr. Laura is, believe it or not, free to say whatever she wants - however she is not free to force people to agree with her or accept whatever she says without reacting. If you don't understand the difference, I don't know what else I can do to get through to you.

Andrew-Austin
08-18-2010, 08:41 PM
Video: The History of Cultural Marxism and The Frankfurt School


YouTube - Political Correctness - Cultural Marxism 1of3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfFjCpG82mo)

*snipped out others*



Frank I've seen in the past what types of videos you choose to spam (as in repeatedly and constantly posting), not biting this time as I don't watch just anything that will most likely be a waste of time.

RedStripe
08-18-2010, 08:44 PM
Frank I've seen in the past what types of videos you choose to spam (as in repeatedly and constantly posting), not biting this time as I don't watch just anything that will most likely be a waste of time.

Yea, I think at least 75% of the times he has even bother responding to me it has just been a link to another thread or a video. The other 25% he just says "SO SAYS THE SOCIALIST." It's really childish.

Andrew-Austin
08-18-2010, 09:20 PM
Yea, I think at least 75% of the times he has even bother responding to me it has just been a link to another thread or a video. The other 25% he just says "SO SAYS THE SOCIALIST." It's really childish.

And so as to not take any sides in this thread, in case it turns out to be long..:


He didn't say anything racist.
lol, I never said he did. I said that he was complaining about how "political correctness" suppresses unpopular speech, such as speech that is considered racist. Not a cause I find particularly sympathetic (although, of course, I do believe in absolute free speech - but the people who have been historically denied free speech are the political/racial/social minorities i mentioned above, of which the speaker is clearly oblivious).

And how is that relevant to today? It isn't. Its like you are trying conjure up this false image of white conservative versus oppressed minorities thing on the subject of free speech. "How dare he get huffy about his free speech, doesn't he know white people like himself denied that right in the past to minorities?" That is the barely perceptible insinuation I'm picking up.

Anyhow political correctness can seriously harm honest discussion. Some of those who are called racist, bigot, etc don't actually give people a true reason to be called such things, those words are thrown at them anyways to silence them through embarrassment and to distort their true positions in the minds of others. Its a common enough tactic of the modern left, you must admit some leftists (whether you identify with them that much or not, I don't think you do) are really quick to throw out words like "racist" at their opponents.

I agree bigotry is wrong, and I know why it is wrong more so than most leftists, who most often just start by accepting the blind hysterical stigmata against racism society inoculates them with. Really just watching the hysterics that surround the race card you would think the accused were actually a bunch of devil worshiping baby eaters, as opposed to just closeted bigots who have committed no actual crime save ignorance. It has that much power, and so calling people racist or anything similar is a powerful tactic, and it is obviously a tactic that is not used honestly (when it is actually justified).

So where political correctness can go wrong is when its falsely used as a bludgeon, like when a person who is merely against the welfare system is called a racist just because the abolition of welfare would end the coerced flow of cash to other races.
And it can go sour when even though a person is technically right (in their opposition to bigotry), they did not come to this conclusion through reason and so take on a ridiculous zeal on the issue.

FrankRep
08-19-2010, 01:08 PM
Castro lashes out at secretive Bilderberg Group (http://rt.com/Politics/2010-08-19/castro-lashes-bilderberg-group.html)


Russia Today
19 August, 2010


Former Cuban President Fidel Castro continues to taunt the West, this time with an article that accuses the ultra-secretive Bilderberg Group of conspiring to create a one-world government.

Despite his advanced age and periodic bouts with an intestinal disorder, 84-year-old Castro continues to warn on the West, this time by dedicating three pages in the Communist Party newspaper Granma that quotes excerpts from a 2006 book by investigative journalist Daniel Estulin entitled "The Secrets of the Bilderberg Club".


In a nutshell, Estulin’s book makes the tempting case that an elite group of political, academic and economic leaders are, as quoted by Castro, “ushering in a world government that knows no borders and is not accountable to anyone but its own self.”

Castro went on to call the book a “fantastic story” that draws public attention to “sinister cliques and the Bilderberg lobbyists” that are making a mockery of Western democratic traditions.

The Bilderberg Group, which holds annual closed-door meetings that are rarely covered by the mainstream media, got its name from a hotel in Holland where it commenced its first meeting in 1954. This year’s meeting was held in Spain, at the luxury Dolce Hotel in Sitges from June 3-6, and was opened by Spanish Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero. Thanks to growing interest in the group, which has become something of an Internet sensation, there was no shortage of protesters outside of this year's venue.

Is Castro on to something?

Although international meetings that bring together the world’s movers and shakers occur on a regular basis, Bilderberg Group functions are different in that they convene behind closed doors, while the mainstream corporate media, despite having numerous representatives at these annual events, never reveals the content of what is discussed.

The Bilderberg Group website, which consists of just one page, defends its activities by tersely stating between nibbles of a caviar-coated cracker: “Bilderberg is a small, flexible, informal and off-the-record international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced. Bilderberg's only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued.”

The website failed to explain, however, the coincidence of prominent guests who have gone on to be elected as political leaders of their respective countries, including Bill Clinton who first attended in 1991.

The rare photographs taken of public figures whisked into these insanely secret events behind an iron phalanx of security have naturally fed numerous conspiracy theories over the motivation behind these meetings. Meanwhile, the guest list to these events is a veritable who’s who of the most influential people of our times.

Here is a brief peek at some of the big-name attendees of this year’s power pow-wow that were leaked to the media: Bill Gates, Microsoft chairman; Richard Holbrooke, Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan; Henry Kissinger, former US Secretary of State; Moisès Naìm, Editor-in-Chief, Foreign Policy; Her Majesty the Queen of the Netherlands; Her Majesty the Queen of Spain; Robert Rubin, Co-chairman, Council on Foreign Relations; Eric Schmidt, CEO, Google; Paul Volcker, US Economic Recovery Advisory Board; Peter Vosel, CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc; Robert Zoellick, President, World Bank.

And the list goes on, but unfortunately any sort of mainstream reporting on these meetings does not.

Although Castro’s personal endorsement of Estulin’s book will draw attention to the mystery that surrounds Bilderberg, the diehard Cuban leader was not the first person to pull the lid off of this story.

Europe is also puzzled

On the initiative of Mario Borghezio, Italian Member of the European Parliament (Lega Nord, Europe of Freedom and Democracy Group), Daniel Estulin addressed the European Parliament in a press conference entitled “Bilderberg Group – Towards the Creation of a One World Company Ltd.?”

During the conference, Estulin accused North American and European elites of conspiring to create a so-called “aristocracy of purpose” in order to “control the necessities of life for the rest of the planet.”

Seemingly unpredictable events, Estulin argues, like the recent financial implosion that had powerful aftershocks around the planet, are actually nothing more than planned catastrophes designed to bring about the "One World Company, Ltd."

At the same press conference, Borghezio used the opportunity to criticize the “selection” of Herman van Rompuy as the first president of the European Union, whose nomination was allegedly sealed after he was seen rubbing elbows at a recent Bilderberg event alongside the likes of Henry Kissinger, former prime minister of Sweden Carl Bildt and David Rockefeller, one of the great granddads of the annual get-together.

Here is the British media’s take on van Rompuy’s rise to power:

“The man tipped to be Europe’s first president is already considering new EU taxes to fund the rising cost of Brussels and the welfare state.”

Herman Van Rompuy, the Belgian Prime Minister, broke his silence before Thursday’s summit to choose the president – but only at a meeting of the secretive Bilderberg group of top politicians, bankers and businessmen.”

Mr. Van Rompuy’s contentious remarks were aired privately amid the grand surroundings of the Castle of the Valley of the Duchess near Brussels. The château hosted the talks on the Treaty of Rome in 1957 that launched the European Union.”

Clearly, the selection of van Rompuy by an elite minority of champagne-sipping individuals flies in the face of democratic theory and hurls Europe back into the Dark Ages when the voice of the people was considered bothersome at best.

“For me,” Borghezio told the conference, the selection of van Rompuy “relates to events that take place in absolute confidentiality, without public control, and had I not exposed it myself, we probably would still not have known about van Rompuy’s affiliations.”

Castro, who has been in power through 11 US presidencies (he has predicted that he will not survive Obama's first term in office), has frequently harbored suspicions of conspiratorial plots. The former president has gone on the record as saying the events of September 11, for example, was an inside job by the US government to promote military expenditures and global reach.

Castro, who underwent emergency intestinal surgery in July 2006, handed over presidential powers to his brother Raul in February 2008. Yet this has not stopped the Communist from speaking his mind on matters of international urgency.

On August 8, Castro convened a special session of the Cuban parliament to discuss the threat of a "nuclear holocaust" over the Middle East crisis involving Israel, Iran and the United States. He even made a personal plea to US President Barack Obama to “avoid the worst possible outcome,” which would spell “disaster for humanity.”

Webster G. Tarpley, a frequent commentator on RT, noted that the US media largely ignored Castro’s warnings.

“Not surprisingly,” Tarpley was quoted by Global Research as saying, “the controlled Wall Street news media in the United States did everything possible to trivialize, denigrate and ridicule this dramatic warning. Frivolity and inanity rule US news coverage this summer.”

It is no surprise that the same media “frivolity and inanity” that is able to ignore warnings by a veteran global leader on the perils of a potential nuclear holocaust, is also able to ignore accusations that an ultra-secret organization is trampling recklessly on democratic terrain.

The question, however, is not whether the accusations against the Bilderberg Group are true or false, but rather why the international corporate media, despite having front row seats at these elite meetings, continually fail to report the content of these events to the public. Given the high-profile guest lists year after year, which regularly include the leaders of practically every Western power, this seems to be part of the public's "right to know."

Although Fidel Castro will never be elected as democracy’s poster boy, he seems to have a very valid argument in questioning the existence of a secretive group such as Bilderberg, which seems to have next to nothing in common with the West’s democratic traditions.

Secrecy regardless of the justifications has absolutely no place in a modern democracy.


SOURCE:
http://rt.com/Politics/2010-08-19/castro-lashes-bilderberg-group.html

Romulus
08-19-2010, 01:16 PM
Guilt by association tactics.

So you think Bilderberg is a secret NWO front? Then you are insane, just like that Fidel Castro!

Oh they are so clever.

FrankRep
08-19-2010, 01:19 PM
Guilt by association tactics.

So you think Bilderberg is a secret NWO front? Then you are insane, just like that Fidel Castro!

Bilderberg is certainly secretive and some of the big business leaders of the U.S. and Europe are apart of the group.

FrankRep
08-20-2010, 04:49 PM
Google Trends:

#1 - Free Bilderberg Films
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Vessol
08-20-2010, 05:18 PM
Just because a tin pot dictator isn't in the know on the Elite's plans does not mean that they are our allies.

See: Ahmajinedad, Castro, Kim Jong Ill, Hugo Chavez

FrankRep
08-20-2010, 05:20 PM
Just because a tin pot dictator isn't in the know on the Elite's plans does not mean that they are our allies.

See: Ahmajinedad, Castro, Kim Jong Ill, Hugo Chavez

Never said he was an ally.

G. Edward Griffin's comment: (http://www.realityzone.com/currentperiod.html)


[Left-Wing collectivists like Castro can be counted on to correctly condemn Right-Wing collectivists like the Bilderberg elite – and vice versa. They both want a world government based on the model of collectivism. but they compete mightily over which side will control it. There are no "good guys" on either side.]

Romulus
08-21-2010, 06:06 AM
Bilderberg is certainly secretive and some of the big business leaders of the U.S. and Europe are apart of the group.

I know, I was explaining who the media is attempting to smear those who know about Bilderberg, by associating them with Castro.

It's media propaganda designed to distract once again from the real issue.

It gives new meaning to hidden in plain sight.

yoshimaroka
08-21-2010, 06:34 AM
:cool: :"Heh, so long as no one is putting a gun to your head to do something, it's your free choice to either sell your labor or starve. You are free."

And what do you do if no one is there to point a gun or not? You either labor to sustain yourself or you starve.

Immortal Technique
08-21-2010, 10:54 AM
YouTube - Limbaugh Talks Bilderberg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4seUBKk11c)