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knarfxii
08-18-2010, 05:24 PM
YouTube - Obama Federalizing police - this is what we get (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7KEbLR28XU)

RedStripe
08-18-2010, 05:27 PM
Um, Obama probably has absolutely nothing to do with this. Federalization of the police is something that has been going on for a long, long time now and has more to do with the natural evolution of the relationship between different institutions than with the decisions of any individual politician.

And, yea, it's a terrible thing. But blaming it on Obama is just a inaccurate distraction and lame partisanship. We should be focusing on the police and their polices rather than just wailing about Obama.

Brooklyn Red Leg
08-18-2010, 05:32 PM
And, yea, it's a terrible thing. But blaming it on Obama is just a inaccurate distraction and lame partisanship. We should be focusing on the police and their polices rather than just wailing about Obama.

+1776! Obama is a slug as far as I'm concerned, but this shit started much earlier than his becoming President.

FrankRep
08-18-2010, 05:36 PM
Flashback:


Time to Resist Federal Takeover of Local Police is Now (http://www.jbs.org/us-constitution-blog/3415)

John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/)
09 October 2008


The time is now to resist the efforts to have state and local governments offer up their police services for federalization.

"California is going to Washington, D.C. (http://finance.yahoo.com/loans/article/105909/States-That-Can%27t-Pay-for-Themselves), to ask for $7 billion to cover its budget shortfall. Otherwise it won't be able to pay for its teachers, cops, firemen, and other essential services." -- Business Week

(10-30-08 Update: New York and New Jersey Governors add their voices (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/nyregion/30paterson.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin) to call for federal assistance.)

With our nation's credit crisis deepening, it was inevitable that state and local governments accustomed to living on borrowed money would be caught up in the debt trap. Right behind the Wall Street bankers (http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/17/news/newsmakers/paulson.friendly.fire.fortune/) and captains of industry (http://digg.com/business_finance/Stealth_Bailout_House_Approves_25_Billion_for_GM_a nd_Ford), get ready to see a long line of governors and mayors queuing up in Washington, D.C., to get their fair share of bailouts (http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/100355/wall_street_bailout_takes_us_back_to_the_u.s.s.r/).

We have a problem though.

If it so desired, a federal government that foots the bill for cops and fireman could only be a goose step or two away from heading down the road towards a police state.

Ask yourself, and your state and local officials this question: "If cops and firemen are so essential, why aren't they the first in line to be paid with local revenues?" Even beleaguered California has an income stream that can cover almost 80% of its current state budget. Why not pay for cops and firemen from the 80% of money California does have? If reasonable budget cuts can't be made at the state level, what California should be doing is demanding Washington, D.C., cut a $7 billion dollar bailout check to cover some of the billions of un-funded federal mandates dumped on California's state and local governments.

This is not how the endgame is being played out though. Just as the fed is moving its operating tsars into positions at the companies it bails out, look for the similar federal control strings to be attached to plans designed to keep paychecks flowing to local police and fire departments. While these bailouts (read: takeovers) are being hammered out, those who value their freedom and local independence need to be speaking out. We need to demand that our state and local elected officials not use the excuse of financial distress as a means towards de-facto federalization of our police forces — just as our banks are rapidly being federalized.

There are plenty of other local programs that can be cut before handing over funding of police and firemen to the federal government.

If you value state and local control of the security apparatus in your community, start working with your city, county, and state officials now to avoid them putting your police officers and fireman on the federal payroll. Remind everyone, "He who pays the piper calls the tune."

Endnote: As much as we might like to value education, except perhaps for the case of providing pre-prison conditioning (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/20/nyregion/20metal.html) in many high schools, teachers in government schools are not supplying an "essential" service. If California is short money to keep their schools open, they can do what other businesses would do with limited funds: cut hours or days of operation. One of our goals should be to convince enough Americans that it would be better to convert school sports programs over to all volunteer and donor based operations than to beg the federal government to pick up the tab for local police departments.


SOURCE:
http://www.jbs.org/us-constitution-blog/3415

Dr.3D
08-18-2010, 05:38 PM
It's a good thing that wasn't me, I have two Dobermans and I'm sure they would have shot them, before beating me up.

Live_Free_Or_Die
08-18-2010, 05:40 PM
This shit needs to end and prick cops like this need to be shot dead in self defense to eliminate their aggressions from society.

YumYum
08-18-2010, 05:47 PM
Um, Obama probably has absolutely nothing to do with this. Federalization of the police is something that has been going on for a long, long time now and has more to do with the natural evolution of the relationship between different institutions than with the decisions of any individual politician.

And, yea, it's a terrible thing. But blaming it on Obama is just a inaccurate distraction and lame partisanship. We should be focusing on the police and their polices rather than just wailing about Obama.

Noam Chomsky would never approve of such behavior. Those conservative Republican cops should be prosecuted to the fullest in a court of law.

FrankRep
08-18-2010, 05:49 PM
Federalizing the Police is Nothing New.


1998!


Support Your Local Police (http://reformed-theology.org/html/issue03/local.htm)
(Oppose Police Federalization)

William F. Jasper | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
Copyright 1998