Start preparing, Ron Paul WILL run for President in 2012!!! [Mod Note: RUMOR]

[Matt Collins]

Start saving your money
Start getting involved in your local GOP
Start building your contact lists
Start working your precincts
Start going door to door


Ron Paul
WILL BE
running
in 2012!

(barring any unforeseen circumstances)




You heard it here first, and you heard it from me :)

[newbitech]

I sent a tip to drudgereport with this post linked.


Ron Paul is planning to run against Obama in 2012, this is a tip from an insider known as "The Collins", a hard core activist with connections to the Paul's. The Collins is definitely trying to cause a ruckus, but this tip was confirmed over the weekend at the Florida Liberty Summit in Orlando.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257221

[awake]

See the sig...

http://i45.tinypic.com/2jcbkh5.png

[Matt Collins]

Organizing our precincts will be the most important and critical action that we can do this time around. November 3rd is the day to get started on this.

[anaconda]

Remember the campaigning starts in early 2011. We should see lots of candidates announcing and campaigning in just about 6 or 7 months from now, I would think... The first primaries are only less than 16 months away!

[Agorism]

just a guess?

[speciallyblend]

collins is re- hashin old news me and elwar already broke this story months ago;) get'em Collins;0

[Son of Detroit]

The Collins is never wrong.

RON PAUL 2012!

[Matt Collins]

just a guess?
Nope, it's not :)

[speciallyblend]

Ron Paul 2012 is on, mods this is no claim;) we have money to back it up;) mods must be dreaming if they think Ron paul isn't running;)

[Knightskye]

Evidence, please.

[anaconda]

I think it is almost a no brainer that Ron Paul will run again. I believe he really likes getting the message out and finds the general excitement for his ideas very gratifying after several decades in the wilderness. This is his time. His star has been rising dramatically and steadily since 2007. He shook the establishment last time. This time he will rock it hard and all bets are off. Everything will be on the table. The gloves are coming off.

[runningdiz]

Haha this thread will be interesting...

[speciallyblend]

better hope the gop can read the writing on the wall.run Ron run , Ron Paul 2012 that is what is on my ticket:)

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

Organizing our precincts will be the most important and critical action that we can do this time around. November 3rd is the day to get started on this.

At http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=253691 I posted encouraging people to start organizing to take over their county GOP as soon as possible. It seems to me that one of the easiest ways to do this is to look up Ron Paul Republicans in your area on Facebook and other social networking sites, contact them, and organize together to flood your county central committee with Ron Paul Republicans.

Do you have any suggestions, or know of any strategies or comprehensive plans of action, for us to use in precinct organization or door-to-door activism?

[speciallyblend]

Evidence, please.

^^^^^ post #12 above

[BuddyRey]

Looks like the time has come to dust off the ol' soapbox and take my good suit to the cleaners. Let's rock & roll!!!

[MRoCkEd]

Sauce?

[YumYum]

^^^^^ post #12 above

Post #12 is proof he is running? :confused:

[speciallyblend]

we can blackmail the collins for more info. We can all change our avatars back to the dancin collins:) should i post the animation avatar of collins once again??

[speciallyblend]

Post #12 is proof he is running? :confused:

sarcasm but it is a no brainer;)

[MelissaWV]

Even if he's running, I doubt sincerely that people are the least bit better informed on how their state nominations work during the primaries.

Educate yourself as if Dr. Paul is running. The worst that can happen is that he does not, and that you'll direct your efforts to another disappointing candidate (either mainstream that is disappointing because of their views, or third party that is disappointing because of their likely loss).

[libertybrewcity]

Ron will be older and he will probably have retirement on his mind, but he should RUN FOR PRESIDENT! HE NEEDS TO. If he thought he had a chance in 2008, now he REALLY has a chance to run as a REPUBLICAN in the 2012 election. He will have tea party/liberty candidates ready to endorse him as well thousands of volunteers ready with time and money.(maybe money,but hopefully)

[YumYum]

sarcasm but it is a no brainer;)

Just because its a "no-brainer" doesn't mean he is going to run. You can't just speak for the man just because you want him to run.

This may be more Ra! Ra! Ree! My push buttons are broken.

Matt needs to be more specific.

[Wren]

As a former Obama supporter, if I were to accomplish a single good deed in my life it would be to give my vote, my money and convince everyone I know to do the same for Ron Paul in 2010 and beyond. I will vote even though I don't want to see this American saint be assassinated and lose our chances of having the only real president since JFK. If Ron Paul is assassinated, will the peaceful revolution be over and replaced with the real one? That's the question I often ponder.

[Matt Collins]

Matt needs to be more specific.I can't at the moment :)

[RedStripe]

Let's all hope he does run. He's done more to disrupt the political status quo than anyone since Ross Perot.

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

Ron will be older and he will probably have retirement on his mind, but he should RUN FOR PRESIDENT! HE NEEDS TO. If he thought he had a chance in 2008, now he REALLY has a chance to run as a REPUBLICAN in the 2012 election. He will have tea party/liberty candidates ready to endorse him as well thousands of volunteers ready with time and money.(maybe money,but hopefully)

He really does have a chance in 2012; see Doug Wead's analysis at http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/how-ron-paul-wins-in-2012-step-one/ and at http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/ron-paul-and-karl-rove-dont-mix/

There are a few things Ron has to change, though. He has to really run to win, not just to educate, and he needs to be willing to brag (in a non-arrogant way) more about his pro-Constitution record.

[silentshout]

I hope so!

[YumYum]

As a former Obama supporter, if I were to accomplish a single good deed in my life it would be to give my vote, my money and convince everyone I know to do the same for Ron Paul in 2010 and beyond. I will vote even though I don't want to see this American saint be assassinated and lose our chances of having the only real president since JFK. If Ron Paul is assassinated, will the peaceful revolution be over and replaced with the real one? That's the question I often ponder.

The only reason he would be assassinated is if he was elected president and didn't do what the bankers told him to do. Worse yet, if he is president when everything collapses he will be blamed for the coming collapse and will be the target for 300 million angry Americans.

[speciallyblend]

Just because its a "no-brainer" doesn't mean he is going to run. You can't just speak for the man just because you want him to run.

This may be more Ra! Ra! Ree! My push buttons are broken.

Matt needs to be more specific.

He will Run!!!!! don't worry just get ready!!!! the collins has spoken!!!

[libertybrewcity]

He really does have a chance in 2012; see Doug Wead's analysis at http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/how-ron-paul-wins-in-2012-step-one/ and at http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/ron-paul-and-karl-rove-dont-mix/

There are a few things Ron has to change, though. He has to really run to win, not just to educate, and he needs to be willing to brag (in a non-arrogant way) more about his pro-Constitution record.

I have read all of Doug Weeds analyses and agree with him. Ron needs to win CPAC and do well in the Iowa Caucuses. I think he needs to run to win, and his supporters need to run to educate.

A mix of education and 'simple straight talk' is key.

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

He really does have a chance in 2012; see Doug Wead's analysis at http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/how-ron-paul-wins-in-2012-step-one/ and at http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/ron-paul-and-karl-rove-dont-mix/

There are a few things Ron has to change, though. He has to really run to win, not just to educate, and he needs to be willing to brag (in a non-arrogant way) more about his pro-Constitution record.

And having Judge Nap on board would be a huge plus, too. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257112

[YumYum]

I can't at the moment :)

Hundreds of thousands of people are going to put faith in your announcement. I trust you. This is exciting news!! :)

[speciallyblend]

And having Judge Nap on board would be a huge plus, too. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257112

I would be excited to see the nap as vp. If i see a gop establishment as a vp, even i might not vote for Ron Paul 2012! I want credibility period!!!!

[RedStripe]

I know for a fact that a lot of leftists will grudgingly support him over Obama.

[speciallyblend]

Hundreds of thousands of people are going to put faith in your announcement. I trust you. This is exciting news!! :)

Collins has more credibility then fox,cnn and msnbc;)

[Michigan11]

If he does run, his support will be larger than before from the beginning no doubt. Back in 07', the arms I had to twist to get involved and donate are now hoping he runs again, and asking if he is. Some others, the neo-con types who have yet to awaken, realize there aren't any good options running, so they could be persuaded, but it will be like last time in many ways. On top of that, most of us just heard about him for the first time, since then, he's been all over the news, who knows what his support is right now.

To win this time, if that is the goal, there is alot of work to do, no more sign waving. Door to door, calling, donating will be essential. Just my opinion..

[YumYum]

I know for a fact that a lot of leftists will grudgingly support him over Obama.

I support him not grudgingly, but wholeheartedly and willingly!

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

I hope Ron Paul does run. It will settle for all time the debate about the merits of politics and viable plans for the future of liberty if the best liberty candidate alive loses again.

I don't expect Ron Paul to win but I do expect a second run to be the campaign of the century for rocking the establishment boat.

[speciallyblend]

I know for a fact that a lot of leftists will grudgingly support him over Obama.

yep;) as well as the non-interventionists from all parties and folks from all political spectrums!!!!

[YumYum]

I hope Ron Paul does run. It will settle for all time the debate about the merits of politics and viable plans for the future of liberty if the best liberty candidate alive loses again.

I don't expect Ron Paul to win but I do expect a second run to be the campaign of the century for rocking the establishment boat.

If he wins the primary, the neocons would back a democrat (behind the scenes). Ron Paul is an enemy of the neocons.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Ron Paul announced the formation of an exploratory committee for his 2008 run in January 2007.

The equivalent of that here would be January 2011; or five months from now.

[rootboot]

If he wins the primary, the neocons would back a democrat (behind the scenes). Ron Paul is an enemy of the neocons.

maybe some, but a VERY small minority at that.

[Agorism]

Ron Paul announced the formation of an exploratory committee for his 2008 run in January 2011.

2007 maybe?

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

Ron Paul announced the formation of an exploratory committee for his 2008 run in January 2011.

The equivalent of that here would be January 2011; or five months from now.

Ron needs to announce before January. He needs to announce right after the November elections so he can capitalize on the tea party electoral momentum and portray himself (correctly) as the epitome of the tea party.

[sailingaway]

I hope it's true!

[Agorism]

I think he needs to wait until after the Kentucky primary because it might be a distraction to have him running while that is ending and it may also divert funds.

Also if Rand loses in Kentucky, he may not want to run.

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I also recently got some word from someone VERY close to the decision making process and at that time I was told it was looking very likely. I am not trying to pull a George here but that is just what I was told so I honestly believe this news.

All I can say is let's roll folks and be ready to fight like never before.

[Johnnybags]

I look so forward to being frustrated as Romney gets 25 questions to every 1 for Paul and all the newscasts black him out! LOL, I love Ron but the game is so rigged. He could raise 100mil and noone would report it or grudgingly report it as they call him a gadfly.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Ron needs to announce before January. He needs to announce right after the November elections so he can capitalize on the tea party electoral momentum and portray himself (correctly) as the epitome of the tea party.

But the 'tea party' doesn't like Ron Paul. He polled 2% among tea parties in one poll and always polls among just them lower than his overall total. The tea party is too pro-war to support him. Independents are more for Ron Paul. And many of them won't vote for Paul in these closed primary states.

By the way, is Collins trying to be ghemminger here? Have we confirmed the billionaire is ready for 2012?

[james1906]

[/SIZE]
Ron Paul
WILL BE
running
in 2012!

(barring any unforeseen circumstances)



of course he is, to burn off the cookies
YouTube - Presidential Candidate Shares His Vices (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX8DvivnBH0&feature=related)

[TortoiseDream]

If this news is true, it's wonderful news. I have mixed feelings at the moment about campaigning for Dr. Paul (just as a matter of principle), but I'd be so down for talking to people about the issues, and waking people up to the ideas of liberty just as I was only a few years ago :)

[Tinnuhana]

And if Ron doesn't win but Obama loses...there's always li'l Timmy's position. Ron Paul for Sec. of the Treasury...because only Nixon can go to China.

[TortoiseDream]

of course he is, to burn off the cookies
YouTube - Presidential Candidate Shares His Vices (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX8DvivnBH0&feature=related)

LOL that video is hilarious.

on a more serious note, that's good ammo for anyone who says he too old. hell, the guy probably exercises more than most American kids these days.

http://susty.com/image/ron-paul-bike-bicycle-michael-maresco-lake-jackson-texas-photo.jpg

[speciallyblend]

I also recently got some word from someone VERY close to the decision making process and at that time I was told it was looking very likely. I am not trying to pull a George here but that is just what I was told so I honestly believe this news.

All I can say is let's roll folks and be ready to fight like never before.

hmmm i have at least 6-10 Big Ron Paul for President 2008 blue background, cover 08 with 12;) will not hurt having a Ron Paul Republican(Kevin Cannell running for local office with a broad support of folks from all parties to speak up for Ron Paul's Platform:)

Kevin Cannell 2010, Liberty Candidates 2010, Ron Paul 2012 ,Wolverines Colorado!!

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

hmmm i have at least 6-10 Big Ron Paul for President 2008 blue background, cover 08 with 12;) will not hurt having a Ron Paul Republican(Kevin Cannell running for local office with a broad support of folks from all parties to speak up for Ron Paul's Platform:)

Kevin Cannell 2010, Liberty Candidates 2010, Ron Paul 2012 ,Wolverines Colorado!!

lol yeah I saved all of my signs and I have a ton of bumper stickers left as well which can easily be modified.

[Akus]

I look so forward to being frustrated as Romney gets 25 questions to every 1 for Paul and all the newscasts black him out! LOL, I love Ron but the game is so rigged. He could raise 100mil and noone would report it or grudgingly report it as they call him a gadfly.

I already am frustrated that Ron Paul just leans over while media "treats" him like it does and doesn't even demand a lube or at least a kiss. He needs to stur shit up. I am not saying flip the discussion table over, but something.....

[KurtBoyer25L]

Iowa....colleges...Iowa...colleges...

...colleges in Iowa...

[Agorism]

Prolly going to need at least 6-7 thousand supporters to win Iowa straw poll in Iowa. Possibly ten.

[KurtBoyer25L]

I think we can get that. How many counties are there in Iowa? Add a pro-weed/anti-war set of 50-100 college kids from every campus. Also we need to educate independents & liberals how they can go and vote. Drive people or finance bus trips if needed. If we can't spend fundraising dollars on getting people to the polls, what should we spend them on? 10,000 votes is an achievable number.

[Agorism]

Only about 100,000 or maybe slightly more vote in the GOP caucuses in Iowa.

Probably 15K or so of them will attend the Iowa straw poll. Maybe we don't quite need 10K.

Bush really rigged that thing whereas in 08 it wasn't quite so bad.

[Agorism]

Well about 5000K needed to win in 2008. Whereas in 2000 it was harder.


2008

1 Mitt Romney 4,516 31.6%
2 Mike Huckabee 2,587 18.1%
3 Sam Brownback 2,192 15.3%
4 Tom Tancredo 1,961 13.7%
5 Ron Paul 1,305 9.1%
6 Tommy Thompson 1,039 7.3%
7 Fred Thompson 203 1.4%
8 Rudy Giuliani 183 1.3%
9 Duncan Hunter 174 1.2%
10 John McCain 101 0.7%
11 John H. Cox 41 0.3%



and

2000

1 George W. Bush 7,418 31.3%
2 Steve Forbes 4,921 20.8%
3 Elizabeth Dole 3,410 14.4%
4 Gary Bauer 2,114 8.9%
5 Patrick Buchanan 1,719 7.3%
6 Lamar Alexander 1,428 6.0%
7 Alan Keyes 1,101 4.6%
8 Dan Quayle 916 3.9%
9 Orrin Hatch 558 2.4%
10 John McCain 83 0.4%
11 John Kasich 9 0.04%
12 Bob Smith 8 0.03%

[Agorism]

People may have been able to attend from out of state in 2000 vs. 2008 I'm not sure. At some point the rules were changed but I think it was before 2000...but maybe not.

[rancher89]

I kept all of my old signs, especially the homemade ones.



We will need to step up the effort we've all been giving and do a serious, all out educational campaign.


Many dems will vote for him over most other possible gop candidates. Be prepared for that old racist crap to come up again.

Many goper's have admitted that RP was right, that they wished they'd voted for him, and that they hope they have another chance. They feel that McCain was shoved down their throats and will not put up with that again. The neocons will be having fits, let them. Stick to the facts.

We need poll watchers & workers and exit polls for the primaries. Vote fraud is our biggest enemy. Have those camera phones at the ready...

Be prepared for RP not to run and Gary Johnson running instead. Just saying. Gov Johnson will NOT run against Dr Paul, but if RP doesn't run, Gov "No" will. I like the Gov, but let's hope RP runs.

If you haven't already, start attending your county meetings, show up at rallies, offer to take out the trash and pick up after events.

If you haven't already, start walking your neighborhood (precinct) and TALK to people. Doesn't have to be politics, but if that's where it takes you, so be it. Be nice. Be polite. The point is to become known in the precinct as someone who cares and has a clue.

Show up for your precinct meeting in Jan/Feb and become the precinct chair or at least an officer for the precinct. This gets you on the county executive committee.

Show up....show up.....show up....AND....Do what you say you will do. You don't have to do things that you find offensive (like canvassing or lit dropping for a neocon candidate) BUT find something, someone you can support and work for.

Last, but not least, I know how important some hot button issues are for some people. Can we let it sit on the back burner or tone it down a bit until after the election? :eek: Say the end of the first week in Nov, 2011??? Please? And then we can all wave our freak flags if that's what we have to do....... :)

The sheeple get scared and we don't need to confuse them anymore than we have to....:D

[rancher89]

Iowa....colleges...Iowa...colleges...

...colleges in Iowa...

What's our YAL coverage in Iowa?

[Agorism]

We have all the big campuses but one.

[KurtBoyer25L]

Very naive here, but what is the difference between the Iowa straw poll and the caucuses? How is the decision actually made? What if one guy won the straw poll and another got more votes in the caucuses? Is there just one straw poll at one location compared to caucuses in every county?

[YumYum]

Last, but not least, I know how important some hot button issues are for some people. Can we let it sit on the back burner or tone it down a bit until after the election? :eek: Say the end of the first week in Nov, 2011??? Please? And then we can all wave our freak flags if that's what we have to do....... :)

The sheeple get scared and we don't need to confuse them anymore than we have to....:D

You mean be phony and pretend that we all get along and agree with one another on every issue? Sure, why not? That would be nice for a change. :)

[trey4sports]

is there any type of evidence that confirms this? Nothing against lord Collins but we've all had our hopes up and been let down about things before. remember Ghemmy? The Billionare? Polls not representing accurate data?


I want Ron to run soooooo bad but I would just like something that points to this. Whether it was a conversation with someone close, or if Rand said something about it. I'm just wanting something substantial.

Anyway, I'm excited!

[eOs]

I may not have faith in god, but I've got faith in The Collins. I'm already ahead of you The Collins, I'm working on a moneybomb site to end all money bomb sites for the good doctor himself. 2012 is going to be epic.

[Agorism]

Iowa Straw poll is 6 months before the caucus. It's a grass roots event rather than a real election, but it is the biggest media event.

Whoever wins get 6 months free TV coverage.

[KurtBoyer25L]

Hey, thanks, Agor. Is it just in one place or in every/multiple counties?

[YumYum]

is there any type of evidence that confirms this? Nothing against lord Collins but we've all had our hopes up and been let down about things before. remember Ghemmy? The Billionare? Polls not representing accurate data?


I want Ron to run soooooo bad but I would just like something that points to this. Whether it was a conversation with someone close, or if Rand said something about it. I'm just wanting something substantial.

Anyway, I'm excited!

I am excited too! Everybody right now is on political steroids. The phones are ringing, money bombs are bombing. People have been staring at their computers for three years waiting for this announcement.

But on getting a confirmation, you must show patience. And please, don't let the fact that we don't know who Collins talked to that confirms that Ron Paul is most definitely running in 2012 ruin your excitement. Even if it turns out not to be true (which I believe it is), its still fun to get excited and go nuts!!! :D

[Epic]

What's our YAL coverage in Iowa?

YAL chapters at:
- Northern Iowa
- Drake
- Iowa State
- Univ. of Iowa

That's pretty good

[Son of Detroit]

I do know one thing for sure...

When I see that official announcement to run for president by Ron Paul, I am going to be grinning from ear to ear non stop for at least a few days. :D

I would give anything to be able to cast my first ever vote in an election for the good doctor.

[Epic]

Very naive here, but what is the difference between the Iowa straw poll and the caucuses? How is the decision actually made? What if one guy won the straw poll and another got more votes in the caucuses? Is there just one straw poll at one location compared to caucuses in every county?

Straw poll is in Ames, Iowa. Caucus is in every precinct.

Straw poll greatly benefit RP because it emphasizes enthusiasm of support.

[Epic]

DailyPaul commenter reports that "The Rockwell" took the portkey to Texas this week to strategize with Ron.
http://dailypaul.com/node/142426#comments

[YumYum]

You guys are fantastic! At this rate, we will have Ron Paul elected by this Friday!:p

[trey4sports]

You guys are fantastic! At this rate, we will have Ron Paul elected by this Friday!:p

ahaha good times!

[trey4sports]

so on the Daily paul i heard that Lew Rockwell was summoned to texas to talk with Dr. Paul about 2012 strategy. I have NO CLUE if that is true but I wander if that is what Lord Collins is basing this off of or if he talked to Ron ????????????????

[ItsTime]

so on the Daily paul i heard that Lew Rockwell was summoned to texas to talk with Dr. Paul about 2012 strategy. I have NO CLUE if that is true but I wander if that is what Lord Collins is basing this off of or if he talked to Ron ????????????????

http://dailypaul.com/node/142426

but this tip was confirmed over the weekend at the Florida Liberty Summit in Orlando.

[low preference guy]

Ron Paul
WILL BE
running
in 2012!
(barring any unforeseen circumstances, like deciding not to run)

[RonPaulFanInGA]

DailyPaul commenter reports that "The Rockwell" took the portkey to Texas this week to strategize with Ron.
http://dailypaul.com/node/142426#comments


I heard this Wednesday from someone connected to the Mises Institute. Lew Rockwell was summoned to Texas earlier this week for policy strategy.

Policy strategizing with Lew Rockwell; man who has never ran for political office or even ran a campaign in his life I believe and who, frankly, isn't exactly mainstream. Are we back to another bargin basement amatuer hour campaign staff?

If true, this campaign is off to a great start already. Maybe Paul can officially announce on Alex Jones instead of C-Span like in 2008 too while he's at it. :rolleyes:

[ItsTime]

Policy strategizing with Lew Rockwell; man who has never ran for political office or even ran a campaign in his life I believe and who, frankly, isn't exactly mainstream.

If true, this campaign is off to a great start already. Maybe Paul can officially announce on Alex Jones instead of C-Span like in 2008 too while he's at it. :rolleyes:

LMAO. Well he cant meet with Rands team, yet, or maybe he has already? :cool:

[speciallyblend]

Policy strategizing with Lew Rockwell; man who has never ran for political office or even ran a campaign in his life I believe and who, frankly, isn't exactly mainstream. Are we back to another bargin basement amatuer hour campaign staff? Are Lew Moore and Jesse Benton available?

If true, this campaign is off to a great start already. Maybe Paul can officially announce on Alex Jones instead of C-Span like in 2008 too while he's at it. :rolleyes:

man we know you live in ga, but that is no reason to bring the rest of us down;)

[Pauls' Revere]

Paul/Palin?

[trey4sports]

Who cares who his campaign staff is, we are responsible for his campaign!

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Who cares who his campaign staff is

All the people who complained about Ron Paul's inept campaign staff here back in 2007 and 2008?

[Andrew-Austin]

so on the Daily paul i heard that Lew Rockwell was summoned to texas to talk with Dr. Paul about 2012 strategy. I have NO CLUE if that is true but I wander if that is what Lord Collins is basing this off of or if he talked to Ron ????????????????

"Strategy" is very broad. The only way this would make sense (getting advice on strategy from Lew) is if he wasn't aiming to win but to achieve something else. With that in mind Lew could offer some advice on other things besides trying to win over the republican status quo neocons and pulling off a win... He could offer advice on what issues to focus on (from an educational standpoint), he could offer advice as a friend, etc.

[LisaNY]

Organizing our precincts will be the most important and critical action that we can do this time around. November 3rd is the day to get started on this.

Matt, I am just north of NYC (in the Lower Hudson Valley) and I'd love to be part of a Ron Paul Presidential campaign. Please keep us posted and thank you for the great news!

[ctiger2]

Fucking Ron Paul FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Michigan11]

First thing we need to do is re-awaken the meetups and start new ones up. We should all be emailing the current meetup groups in our areas and start new ones if needed. Email everyone we know too. This may also help all of our 2010 candidates in the process. Hell Yeah!!!!!

[Number19]

...I don't expect Ron Paul to win but I do expect a second run to be the campaign of the century for rocking the establishment boat.Don't quite know what your meaning is here, but I want to remind everyone that the RNC recently changed their rules. At the next National Convention, all states will be allocating their delegates proportionately according to the primary vote. Previously, winner-take-all was allowed ( Texas was a winner-take-all state ).

This means the campaign will not conclude with the primaries, but will continue through the convention, with, likely, the top three candidates heavily influencing a vicious floor fight. You are going to see fireworks which haven't been seen in some time.

[speciallyblend]

Don't quite know what your meaning is here, but I want to remind everyone that the RNC recently changed their rules. At the next National Convention, all states will be allocating their delegates proportionately according to the primary vote. Previously, winner-take-all was allowed ( Texas was a winner-take-all state ).

This means the campaign will not conclude with the primaries, but will continue through the convention, with, likely, the top three candidates heavily influencing a vicious floor fight. You are going to see fireworks which haven't been seen in some time.

bring on Adam Kokesh on the floor;)

[jclay2]

This thread has made my day. Ron Paul 2012 FTW!!!!! I am so pumped and way more willing to call/door to door/campaign for Ron then the last go around. For old times sake:

YouTube - Nuclear Tests to the 1812 Overture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo48YpNOesQ)

[moonshineplease]

In the meantime we also should be promoting the documentary "For Liberty" as much as possible. Keep emailing Netflix, IFC or whomever might show this brilliant piece of recruiting gold.

[farrar]

I hope more conformation comes out soon. I'm 17 now, but I would like for my first presidental vote to be for ron paul.

[parke]

I think I need to change my undies..

I posted this to FB and its already been reposted a few times in ten minutes. The sh*t is hitting the fan come 12.:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[newbitech]

I do know one thing for sure...

When I see that official announcement to run for president by Ron Paul, I am going to be grinning from ear to ear non stop for at least a few days. :D

I would give anything to be able to cast my first ever vote in an election for the good doctor.

and this is why he will run.

[jclay2]

We should probably get ron paul a 24 hour security force to protect him from the "(barring any unforeseen circumstances)" bit.

[parke]

I hope more conformation comes out soon. I'm 17 now, but I would like for my first presidental vote to be for ron paul.

Proud of ya kid. Dont ever give up your rights or give up fighting for justice, equality and peace.

I hope more of your generation gets behind this message and helps make Paul as cool as Obama was to your age group.

[Uriel999]

I hope so! This thread makes me feel excited even though its just a rumor.

[parke]

and this is why he will run.

and why he will win.

[Son of Detroit]

I hope more conformation comes out soon. I'm 17 now, but I would like for my first presidental vote to be for ron paul.

HELL YEAH! :D

Liberty lovers >18 UNITE!

I wish I knew someone my age who liked Ron Paul. Hell, even knew who Ron Paul is.

[jake]

Victory is the only option. 15 million dollar money bomb here we come. You think the blimp was big? Wait for this election! Ron paul! Ron paul! Ron paul!

[newbitech]

HELL YEAH! :D

Liberty lovers >18 UNITE!

I wish I knew someone my age who liked Ron Paul. Hell, even knew who Ron Paul is.

well, what are you waiting for? You have a vast array of resources right here to help you out. Be passionate, be honest, and above all, live your life free, and your message will be heard.

[LeifEiriksson]

Victory is the only option. 15 million dollar money bomb here we come. You think the blimp was big? Wait for this election! Ron paul! Ron paul! Ron paul!

Let's just hope by 2012 that a 15 million dollar money won't be the new 6 million dollar moneybomb if Bernanke keeps printing them like he has ;)

[Vessol]

HELL YEAH! :D

Liberty lovers >18 UNITE!

I wish I knew someone my age who liked Ron Paul. Hell, even knew who Ron Paul is.

Well start talking. Find out what issues are important to them and I'm sure on many issues they'd love Ron Paul.

[sailingaway]

Right now, if you 'google Ron Paul' by date, this thread is number 3 in the list. :o

And the DP link citing the mysterious insider 'The Collins' is on the next page via this aggregator: http://iplextra.indiatimes.com/article/0faO4zBfD55tR?q=Orlando+Florida

And it's on twitter....

in fact if you go through 4 pages of google search, OUR links to this and pick ups come up a half dozen times..

And even Marion County Line's blog headline feed automatically picked up the DP headline because of course Michael or someone over there bumped Rand's request for help from the liberty movement down to the number two slot when this came up....

[Son of Detroit]

Well start talking. Find out what issues are important to them and I'm sure on many issues they'd love Ron Paul.

That's the thing. No one I know even cares about issues. Politics are as interesting as math homework.

I'm taking AP Government this year, so hopefully there will be some kids in there interested in politics. Hopefully I can reach them by the end of the year just through the debates and discussions we will have in class.

[Kregisen]

Well start talking. Find out what issues are important to them and I'm sure on many issues they'd love Ron Paul.

Exactly. Lots of us on here are college students and I've gotten lots of friends who never even heard of Ron before to wanna vote for him simply because of the drug war issue alone.

Ron can appeal to anyone, you just have to mention the relevant issues.

[speciallyblend]

That's the thing. No one I know even cares about issues. Politics are as interesting as doing their math homework.

ok work on the pro-marijuana group first. walk up to them take their weed and then say this is what the fed government wants to do and if you do not register to vote and get involved i will take your marijuana from you for the rest of your life:) it is a start hehe joking of course well maybe

[trey4sports]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit egotistical for someone to come up here and make a really big claim with no substantial evidence and then sit back and let the forum go crazy while he sits back?

[thomas-in-ky]

I'll donate $1,000 if he runs. Does anyone else remember the interview in Louisville (at the Rally for the Republicans for Rand Paul)? I think it was after the rally - a couple of amateurs with a camera (can't find the tube now - dang). They asked him (or was it his wife?) if Ron would run in 2012, and he (or she?) said he would if he thought his county needed him, i.e., if there were a financial crisis that he had predicted and was uniquely prepared to address.

This time around, he'll have an outspoken son in the senate who will be on cable news every night, as the defacto spokesperson/leader of the movement to return our country to constitutional principles!

[speciallyblend]

Exactly. Lots of us on here are college students and I've gotten lots of friends who never even heard of Ron before to wanna vote for him simply because of the drug war issue alone.

Ron can appeal to anyone, you just have to mention the relevant issues.

+1 i am 42 but our 22 yr old likes Ron paul and her and her boyfriend votes sent us over the top against the good ole boy local gop system locally. Every Vote Counts!!

[axiomata]

But will he have the support of the billionaire? That is the question.

[speciallyblend]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit egotistical for someone to come up here and make a really big claim with no substantial evidence and then sit back and let the forum go crazy while he sits back?

what else do we have to look forward to? nfl football? not like their is much excitement in the gop except Ron Paul!!

[sailingaway]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit egotistical for someone to come up here and make a really big claim with no substantial evidence and then sit back and let the forum go crazy while he sits back?

Egotistical?

I think the word you want is 'sadistic'.

And then there is 'manipulative'.....

although, I have to admit, it is fun, at the moment....

[newbitech]

That's the thing. No one I know even cares about issues. Politics are as interesting as math homework.

I'm taking AP Government this year, so hopefully there will be some kids in there interested in politics. Hopefully I can reach them by the end of the year just through the debates and discussions we will have in class.

this might be a good point of entry.

http://blog.aflcio.org/2010/08/15/global-youth-unemployment-reaches-record-levels/

http://www.aflcio.org/aboutus/laborday/upload/laborday2009_report.pdf


http://americanaffairs.suite101.com/article.cfm/american_youth_and_unemployment


According to Lizzy Ratner, in The Nation article entitled “Generation Recession,” the “unemployment rate [in September] for people between the ages of 16 and 24 hovered morosely at 18.1 per cent.” This was nearly double the 10.1 per cent national average. Equally drastic was the low employment rate of those in the same age bracket, merely 46 per cent. This means less than half of all people ages 16-24 are employed on a regular basis. According to Ratner, this is the lowest employment rate for this age bracket since 1948, “the year the government began keeping track.”

Since the recession began taking its grip on the nation in December 2007, 16 to 24 year-olds have lost 2.5 million jobs, “roughly one-third of all the jobs lost, making them the hardest-hit age group of the recession.”



Read more at Suite101: American Youth and Unemployment: The Recession's Effects on 16-24 Year Old's Employment Rates http://americanaffairs.suite101.com/article.cfm/american_youth_and_unemployment#ixzz0wjM00P2H

[evilfunnystuff]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit egotistical for someone to come up here and make a really big claim with no substantial evidence and then sit back and let the forum go crazy while he sits back?

:D
http://luckyjane.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/believe2.jpg

[knarfxii]

In 2007 I spent about $6000 on going places, buying stuff, sending DVD's all over the country to help Ron Paul win and my wife thought I was crazy! In January of 2008, my wife voted for the first Republican in her life, Ron Paul. this time I will try to do the same but spend less money and my wife will be the first to help me help him!

Ron Paul 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MRoCkEd]

RONNNNnnnnnnnnnnn'

PAAAAAAAAuuuuLLLlLlL

[BarryDonegan]

Imagine how much more support he could have by then...

[Uriel999]

:D
http://luckyjane.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/believe2.jpg

http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2008/04/x-files-believe1.jpg

[Son of Detroit]

If Ron ends up not running, I say we all go to The Collins' house torches-a-blazin'.

:D

Newbitech- interesting post. Never thought of that angle.

[newbitech]

If Ron ends up not running, I say we all go to The Collins' house torches-a-blazin'.

:D

Newbitech- interesting post. Never thought of that angle.

the way I approach that is like this. Those age brackets span longer than anyone presidency.

We don't need a temporary quick fix, we need wholesale changes, and only young people can bring that. That is the only way to make the changes permanent, is by changing the fundamental underlying structure. Change this now, so that in 10 years from now, you won't have to tell the next generation about 75% unemployment etc etc..

[sailingaway]

If Ron ends up not running, I say we all go to The Collins' house torches-a-blazin'.

:D



Hey, those pitchforks must be good for something!

[james1906]

If Ron ends up not running, I say we all go to The Collins' house torches-a-blazin'.

:D

Newbitech- interesting post. Never thought of that angle.

And he thought that couple upstairs having sex too loud was an inconvenience!

[speciallyblend]

If Ron ends up not running, I say we all go to The Collins' house torches-a-blazin'.

:D

Newbitech- interesting post. Never thought of that angle.

no need we can blackmail him with my avatar;) snickers:) the collins better give up some info. i pulled the secret weapon out:)

[newbitech]

no need we can blackmail him with my avatar;) snickers:) the collins better give up some info. i pulled the secret weapon out:)

haha

hey, here is an awesome video about how to get the message spread.

YouTube - For Liberty: How the Ron Paul Revolution Watered the Withered Tree of Liberty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIcIkoOwp7s)

inspiration from the last time this happened.

[Old Ducker]

ROFL @ SB's avatar. These forumz are too much sometimes.

[YumYum]

This sudden announcement can be destabilizing for the many members on here who are bi-polar. I had to double up on my nut meds. I'm finally leveling out...yeah, I feel much better now.

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

ROFL @ SB's avatar. These forumz are too much sometimes.

That is by far hands down the best .gif I have ever produced. Thanks to "The Collins" for providing great footage.

[speciallyblend]

That is by far hands down the best .gif I have ever produced. Thanks to "The Collins" for providing great footage.

wonders how long it will take before the collins tells me that gif will cause Ron Paul not to run?:) and to take it down? then if he does . i will run a rpf poll if i should remove it or not:) lmfao. i am hoping this gif gets the collins talking asap:)

[sailingaway]

wonders how long it will take before the collins tells me that gif will cause Ron Paul not to run?:) and to take it down? then if he does . i will run a rpf poll if i should remove it or not:) lmfao. i am hoping this gif gets the collins talking asap:)

I think you might have to go to a thread he is reading. Is he still on this one? I think he just got us stirred up, and took off.

[trey4sports]

The Collins for VP!


Paul/The Collins 2012
More antics to come

[low preference guy]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit egotistical for someone to come up here and make a really big claim with no substantial evidence and then sit back and let the forum go crazy while he sits back?

The mods put [Mod Note: It's Collins] in the title for a reason.

[newbitech]

YouTube - Matt Collins Trying to Cause a Ruckus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqbAemV1WdA)

[Legend1104]

Nope, it's not :)

So you have some undeniable evidence. Forgive my sinicism but I have not been on RPF long enough to understand the full weight of a "Collins" endorsement.

[newbitech]

So you have some undeniable evidence. Forgive my sinicism but I have not been on RPF long enough to understand the full weight of a "Collins" endorsement.

just look at how many views and posts this thread has. The Collins may come across as being egotistical and self serving, but it is his job to stir the pot like this. The grassroots would not have dispatched him if something important was NOT in fact occurring.

Welcome aboard by the way!

[speciallyblend]

So you have some undeniable evidence. Forgive my sinicism but I have not been on RPF long enough to understand the full weight of a "Collins" endorsement.

i would give it more weight then the failed gop;) though collins could be having a ghemminger rpf moment!! we will see i have his avatar up now, hoping he starts explaining:) we are gonna make the collins talk one way or another;)

[sailingaway]

i would give it more weight then the failed gop;) though collins could be having a ghemminger rpf moment!! we will see i have his avatar up now, hoping he starts explaining:) we are gonna make the collins talk one way or another;)

no offense, but the cat avatar is much easier to look at ad infinitum....

[newbitech]

the classic for all the new people out there. Lets revive this for 2012 ya'll!!

YouTube - Ron Paul : Don't tread on me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG_HuFtP8w8)

[sailingaway]

by the way, I just posted a Ron Paul 2012 poll thread for people to vote in and no one has....

[Legend1104]

just look at how many views and posts this thread has. The Collins may come across as being egotistical and self serving, but it is his job to stir the pot like this. The grassroots would not have dispatched him if something important was NOT in fact occurring.

Welcome aboard by the way!

Hope so and thanks cause if he is wrong, dems figtin words!

[Son of Detroit]

YouTube - Ron Paul: A New Hope (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA)

[YumYum]

I wonder if Ron Paul even knows of all the commotion going on here. He's probably getting ready for bed. Doesn't anybody have his phone number?

[Vessol]

no offense, but the cat avatar is much easier to look at ad infinitum....

speak for yourself

[sailingaway]

um.. oookay.....

[Matt Collins]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit egotistical for someone to come up here and make a really big claim with no substantial evidence and then sit back and let the forum go crazy while he sits back?I can understand how you think that. You don't have to trust what I say, but I also admit I have nothing that I am willing to show at the moment to prove my assertion. Take my word for it, don't take my word for it. But whatever you do, start laying the groundwork and do what is necessary to prepare for a 2012 run.

If you want Ron to win in 2012, work on your local level on a precinct strategy, and donate to Rand on the Aug 20th Money Bomb. Those are the two most important actions that we can take right now!

[Agorism]

Collins- would he ever announce before Kentucky race is over?

[trey4sports]

I can understand how you think that. You don't have to trust what I say, but I also admit I have nothing that I am willing to show at the moment to prove my assertion.

For now, if you want Ron to win in 2012, work on your local level on a precinct strategy, and donate to Rand on the Aug 20th Money Bomb. Those are the two most important actions that we can take at the moment!

hey, no offense meant by my comment Matt. You're a great guy and a hardcore activist, supporter, spreader of the movement. I'm just scarred from Billionaire threads of past :D

[Matt Collins]

That is by far hands down the best .gif I have ever produced. Thanks to "The Collins" for providing great footage.No one knows who is really in that video :rolleyes:

[sailingaway]

///

[newbitech]

YouTube - Ron Paul: A New Hope (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA)

oh this brings tears to my eyes every time.

[speciallyblend]

I can understand how you think that. You don't have to trust what I say, but I also admit I have nothing that I am willing to show at the moment to prove my assertion. Take my word for it, don't take my word for it. But whatever you do, start laying the groundwork and do what is necessary to prepare for a 2012 run.

If you want Ron to win in 2012, work on your local level on a precinct strategy, and donate to Rand on the Aug 20th Money Bomb. Those are the two most important actions that we can take right now!

You have more credibility then MSM collins;)

Ron Paul 2012 is on folks;)


YouTube - Ron Paul : Don't tread on me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG_HuFtP8w8)

[Matt Collins]

Ron' probably getting ready for bed. Doesn't anybody have his phone number?Yes but I ain't sharing :p

[Matt Collins]

Ron Paul announced the formation of an exploratory committee for his 2008 run in January 2007.

The equivalent of that here would be January 2011; or five months from now.You are very perceptive :)

[axiomata]

So you have some undeniable evidence. Forgive my sinicism but I have not been on RPF long enough to understand the full weight of a "Collins" endorsement.
<insert fat joke here>

[Matt Collins]

Collins- would he ever announce before Kentucky race is over?I will refer you to this post to draw your own conclusions: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2842747&postcount=44 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2842747&postcount=44)

[Matt Collins]

hey, no offense meant by my comment Matt. You're a great guy and a hardcore activist, supporter, spreader of the movement. I'm just scarred from Billionaire threads of past :D
Did the people who posted the billionaire "rumor" threads have 20k+ posts and a known history? ;)


Also there was a billionaire supporting Ron, but it wasn't in the way that people thought it was.

[michaelwise]

What the hell is going on. There are 235 logged onto RPF right now? I'm all In on Paul 2012.

[ElCount]

Policy strategizing with Lew Rockwell; man who has never ran for political office or even ran a campaign in his life I believe and who, frankly, isn't exactly mainstream. Are we back to another bargin basement amatuer hour campaign staff?

If true, this campaign is off to a great start already. Maybe Paul can officially announce on Alex Jones instead of C-Span like in 2008 too while he's at it. :rolleyes:

Well Rockwell has worked on political campaigns in the past, for Eugene McCarthy's campaign and I heard him in an interview with Scott Horton say he worked on someone's campaign for governor (can't remember who).

And we shouldn't forget that he was Ron Paul's Chief of Staff for much of his time in Congress and was instrumental in his 2008 campaign (which despite not securing the GOP nomination, was a huge success).

Despite being a devout anarchist with no faith in politics these days, Rockwell has had his hand in politics in the past so I think it's untruthful to say he is an amateur. Not to mention, he's a very intelligent guy.

[Matt Collins]

But the 'tea party' doesn't like Ron Paul. He polled 2% among tea parties in one poll and always polls among just them lower than his overall total. The tea party is too pro-war to support him. Independents are more for Ron Paul. And many of them won't vote for Paul in these closed primary statesReally? How is Ron polling against Obama? And there was a poll out there a few months ago about how Ron had more support than Palin. If anyone can cite that please do because I don't remember nor do I have the time at the moment.

[Matt Collins]

Iowa....colleges...Iowa...colleges...

...colleges in Iowa...
Have you seen this?
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/event/2010iowa.php

[michaelwise]

collins is re- hashin old news me and elwar already broke this story months ago;) get'em Collins;0

What happened to your cat with headphones avatar speciallyblend? Someone is extremely excited I guess.

[michaelwise]

Resurrect the BLIMP!

[newbitech]

go ahead and bookmark this page now folks.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

also would be a good idea to start linking to it.

[speciallyblend]

oh this brings tears to my eyes every time.

nothing but goosebumps:)

[sailingaway]

Resurrect the BLIMP!

I want to, but when you watch that part in the For Liberty movie, the bit about it only being able to fly under certain weather conditions does limit it... we need to do something spectacular, however. We have a reputation to uphold! :D

[brenden.b]

Campaign for Liberty just sent me five Ron Paul 2008 bumper stickers and I just stuck one on my new ride. The fiance's reactions was priceless when I told her I put a bumper sticker on the new vehicle. Here she thought this vehicle was going to be bumper sticker free! Ha! Poor girl...

I'll wait for the official announcement until I get my 2012 Ron Paul bumper sticker. Perhaps we should do a bumper sticker bomb on the day of the announcement?

[pcosmar]

I guess I need to repaint my sign.

Looking forward with great anticipation.
:cool:

[speciallyblend]

Resurrect the BLIMP!

screw the blimp. this time a freaking space station;) hehe ps hover the dam thing over cities.

[sailingaway]

go ahead and bookmark this page now folks.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

also would be a good idea to start linking to it.

do we have .net and .org? So no one else gets them?

[newbitech]

I want to, but when you watch that part in the For Liberty movie, the bit about it only being able to fly under certain weather conditions does limit it... we need to do something spectacular, however. We have a reputation to uphold! :D

We need something that can be seen from outer space, and then pay the russians to take a picture of it for us.

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

Collins- would he ever announce before Kentucky race is over?

I don't expect Ron to announce anything before the general election in November, but it seems like the best strategy would be to announce soon after.

[michaelwise]

I want to, but when you watch that part in the For Liberty movie, the bit about it only being able to fly under certain weather conditions does limit it... we need to do something spectacular, however. We have a reputation to uphold! :DA GPS sign across America, Vote Ron Paul?

[low preference guy]

So you have some undeniable evidence. Forgive my sinicism but I have not been on RPF long enough to understand the full weight of a "Collins" endorsement.

I think it adds to the credibility of this thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=237784&highlight=attention+whore)'s title. In my eyes, it doesn't add any credibility at all that Ron is going to run.

[sailingaway]

We need something that can be seen from outer space, and then pay the russians to take a picture of it for us.

The guy who did the GPS map of Ayn Rand..... not that we necessarily want that, but it IS our kind of thing....

[sailingaway]

A GPS sign across America, Vote Ron Paul?

Ha! Your fingers were faster than mine...

[YumYum]

Something doesn't add up. (nut meds are kicking in) Rand was endorsed by Palin. If Palin is running in 2012 and Ron Paul is running in 2012, Rand has to choose between the two. Naturally, he would pick his father. But the November election is not here yet, and while Ron has no fucking clue that people are going ape shit on this forum, Palin is probably lurking on this forum right now. She will now know that Ron is running, so one of the following must be true:

1) The 2012 ticket is going to be Paul/Palin

2) Palin is not going to run and will endorse Ron Paul

3) Palin is running, and Rand has already distanced himself (though not publicly) from Palin and her machine.

4) Ron hasn't told Rand yet that he is running, only Matt Collins.

[michaelwise]

Ha! Your fingers were faster than mine...We won't need to be quite over the top this time since Ron is practically a household name now, but I just like over the top stuff.

[sailingaway]

Something doesn't add up. (nut meds are kicking in) Rand was endorsed by Palin. If Palin is running in 2012 and Ron Paul is running in 2012, Rand has to choose between the two. Naturally, he would pick his father. But the November election is not here yet, and while Ron has no fucking clue that people are going ape shit on this forum, Palin is probably lurking on this forum right now. She will now know that Ron is running, so one of the following must be true:

1) The 2012 ticket is going to be Paul/Palin

2) Palin is not going to run and will endorse Ron Paul

3) Palin is running, and Rand has already distanced himself (though not publicly) from Palin and her machine.

4) Ron hasn't told Rand yet that he is running, only Matt Collins.

I don't actually think that Rand has to decide anything now and until Ron declares, it hasn't happened. If he does declare, of course Rand would support Ron in the primary, and if Ron doesn't win in the primary, SOMEONE will probably want Rand as their VP. Come on, you haven't been ignoring the way independents break in the polls have you? I don't expect them to ask Ron to be VP because it would almost be insulting. But Rand would be fair game, in an attempt to engage his and his Dad's supporters.

In any event, all of that is to play out, and I want Ron to win the primary.

[newbitech]

we could do a crop circle lol, appeal to our fringe base.

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle

[RoamZero]

I just hope his campaign wont be some kind of veiled CFL fund-raising and proselytizing attempt. While the message is important, winning should be at the front of his mind! :D

[sailingaway]

We won't need to be quite over the top this time since Ron is practically a household name now, but I just like over the top stuff.

It is our trademark.

And it isn't over the top, it is 'creative'.

As Ron says, if you aren't having fun, you're doing it wrong...!


we could do a crop circle lol, appeal to our fringe base.

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle

speciallyblend already suggested tipping cows. We could do crop circles AND tip cows.... leave 'em guessing!

[Matt Collins]

Something doesn't add up. (nut meds are kicking in) Rand was endorsed by Palin. If Palin is running in 2012 and Ron Paul is running in 2012, Rand has to choose between the two. Naturally, he would pick his father. But the November election is not here yet, and while Ron has no fucking clue that people are going ape shit on this forum, Palin is probably lurking on this forum right now. She will now know that Ron is running, so one of the following must be true:

1) The 2012 ticket is going to be Paul/Palin

2) Palin is not going to run and will endorse Ron Paul

3) Palin is running, and Rand has already distanced himself (though not publicly) from Palin and her machine.

4) Ron hasn't told Rand yet that he is running, only Matt Collins.
Let's not speculate :)

Right now keep our noses to the grind, work the precinct program, and donate to Rand on Aug 20th.

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

Really? How is Ron polling against Obama? And there was a poll out there a few months ago about how Ron had more support than Palin. If anyone can cite that please do because I don't remember nor do I have the time at the moment.

Ron polled in a statistical tie with Obama in April: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41

This is one reason why I'm not that concerned about the general election. If Ron wins the primary, he will very likely be able to beat Obama. The primary is where our real fight is at.

I don't know about the Palin poll you are referring to.

[sailingaway]

Let's not speculate :)

Right now keep our noses to the grind, work the precinct program, and donate to Rand on Aug 20th.

good luck with the 'let's not speculate' nonsense.

But the other part I agree with you on.

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

While the message is important, winning should be at the front of his mind! :D

I agree. Ron (and us) need to either run to win, or not even bother. Ron can win and he needs to realize that, and go into this campaign full force.

[Matt Collins]

As Ron says, if you aren't having fun, you're doing it wrong...!And the CFL knows how to have fun as evidenced by this weekend! :D

[newbitech]

And the CFL knows how to have fun as evidenced by this weekend! :D

mmmm, yes. I will vouch for this, sort of. :cool:

[Matt Collins]

we could do a crop circle lol, appeal to our fringe base.

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle (http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle)



speciallyblend already suggested tipping cows. We could do crop circles AND tip cows.... leave 'em guessing!
YouTube - Scary Movie 3 - Crop circles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSIgP_Eq-5k)

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

Policy strategizing with Lew Rockwell; man who has never ran for political office or even ran a campaign in his life I believe and who, frankly, isn't exactly mainstream. Are we back to another bargin basement amatuer hour campaign staff?

Consulting with Lew Rockwell doesn't even make sense as he (Rockwell) doesn't even believe in voting. If there was such a meeting, perhaps it was more of a personal advice meeting rather than a strategic campaign talk.

Ron definitely needs a better campaign staff this time around.

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/ron-paul-and-karl-rove-dont-mix/

He should consider hiring Doug Wead as an adviser.

[Agorism]

We could try to levitate the Pentagon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbie_Hoffman


. During the Vietnam War, Hoffman was an anti-war activist, who used deliberately comical and theatrical tactics, such as organizing a mass demonstration in which over 50,000 people would attempt to use psychic energy to levitate The Pentagon until it would turn orange and begin to vibrate, at which time the war in Vietnam would end.[3] Hoffman's symbolic theatrics were successful at convincing many young people to become more active in the politics of the time.[3]

[Pauls' Revere]

Start saving your money
Start getting involved in your local GOP
Start building your contact lists
Start working your precincts
Start going door to door


Ron Paul
WILL BE
running
in 2012!

(barring any unforeseen circumstances)






You heard it here first, and you heard it from me :)


Can we get a Red Alert?

YouTube - RED ALERT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJgYurYwONE&feature=related)

[newbitech]

Consulting with Lew Rockwell doesn't even make sense as he (Rockwell) doesn't even believe in voting. If there was such a meeting, perhaps it was more of a personal advice meeting rather than a strategic campaign talk.

Ron definitely needs a better campaign staff this time around.

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/ron-paul-and-karl-rove-dont-mix/

He should consider hiring Doug Wead as an adviser.

here is RP and LR together on Fox with the judge. There is a close tie in with LR and the mises institute via austrian economics.

YouTube - Ron Paul & Lew Rockwell "We Have A Dictatorship When It Comes To Foreign Policy" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT0oEU0HKCI)

[michaelwise]

YouTube - Ron Paul Limo - in Phoenix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uvOJqwE0Bg&feature=related)

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

here is RP and LR together on Fox with the judge. There is a close tie in with LR and the mises institute via austrian economics.

YouTube - Ron Paul & Lew Rockwell "We Have A Dictatorship When It Comes To Foreign Policy" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT0oEU0HKCI)

I saw that segment when it aired. I greatly respect Lew Rockwell; I just don't know how much good advice he would have to offer on campaign strategy. He doesn't believe in voting.

[enjoiskaterguy]

PROOF PLEASE!!!!!!! where is this proof that Ron Paul will be running again???

[low preference guy]

I saw that segment when it aired. I greatly respect Lew Rockwell; I just don't know how much good advice he would have to offer on campaign strategy. He doesn't believe in voting.

It's a bit more (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/63594.html)than "doesn't believe in voting".


Every voter is a tool.

[AlterEgo]

I want to, but when you watch that part in the For Liberty movie, the bit about it only being able to fly under certain weather conditions does limit it... we need to do something spectacular, however. We have a reputation to uphold! :D

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_K7XixVsv8kc/TA_8jYiTvDI/AAAAAAAAAZo/s_e2usqrDLg/s400/pauls_blimp.png

[newbitech]

I saw that segment when it aired. I greatly respect Lew Rockwell; I just don't know how much good advice he would have to offer on campaign strategy. He doesn't believe in voting.

I imagine that the advice he would give would be research related. I wouldn't be surprised if the issue of blowback and the cia came from the LVMI tho.

[low preference guy]

PROOF PLEASE!!!!!!! where is this proof that Ron Paul will be running again???

it's just a claim with zero evidence provided. be patient. focus on the November elections and be alert for the two months after Nov 2.

[Matt Collins]

So you have some undeniable evidence. Forgive my sinicism but I have not been on RPF long enough to understand the full weight of a "Collins" endorsement.

Daily Kos knows it:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/21/868566/-Calling-Out-the-Republicans-who-Endorsed-Rand-Paul

[enjoiskaterguy]

YouTube - Scary Movie 3 - Crop circles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSIgP_Eq-5k)

We could make crop circles that say "even aliens support Pon Paul for president"

or say "Ron Paul 2012 or the world really does end" lol

[michaelwise]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_K7XixVsv8kc/TA_8jYiTvDI/AAAAAAAAAZo/s_e2usqrDLg/s400/pauls_blimp.pngA Father and Son team as President and VP is possible, but we must keep this next campaign as professional as possible while having fun. Perhaps a more classy R3volution sign is in order.

[Old Ducker]

it's just a claim with zero evidence provided. be patient. focus on the November elections and be alert for the two months after Nov 2.

I have no doubt that the Pauls would leak such important information to such a credible and respected outlet. Carol probably called him herself.

[low preference guy]

I have no doubt that the Pauls would leak such important information to such a credible and respected outlet. Carol probably called him herself.

where is the credible and respected outlet?

[michaelwise]

I have no doubt that the Pauls would leak such important information to such a credible and respected outlet. Carol probably called him herself.I love Carol Paul. I met them in Orlando at One Eyed Jacks.

[libertybrewcity]

Supporting liberty candidates now will be HUGE for a Ron Paul victory.

Priorities:
1. Move to Iowa
2. Register to vote in Iowa
3. Get 10 friends to complete 1 and 2

:D

[enjoiskaterguy]

We could make crop circles that say

"even aliens support Pon Paul for president"

or say

"Ron Paul 2012 or the world really does end"

lol

[james1906]

I have no doubt that the Pauls would leak such important information to such a credible and respected outlet. Carol probably called him herself.

Well....Collins is known in some circles as 'Deep Throat'

[TheTyke]

Supporting liberty candidates now will be HUGE for a Ron Paul victory.

Priorities:
1. Move to Iowa
2. Register to vote in Iowa
3. Get 10 friends to complete 1 and 2

:D

Would the Free State Project move to Iowa for a couple years? It might even turn into a good recruiting tool! :D

[enjoiskaterguy]

A Father and Son team as President and VP is possible, but we must keep this next campaign as professional as possible while having fun. Perhaps a more classy R3volution sign is in order.

this is epic!!!!

[speciallyblend]

Well....Collins is known in some circles as 'Deep Throat'

lmfao , sitting at work:) good one! look folks the collins doesn't joke around!! I am taking his word at 100% but we all already know Ron Paul has to run!

[YumYum]

Well....Collins is known in some circles as 'Deep Throat'

LOL. And if Sarah Palin was the one leaking the information she would be known as "Sore Throat".

[Matt Collins]

it's just a claim with zero evidence provided. be patient. focus on the November elections and be alert for the two months after Nov 2.Exactly.



We could make crop circles that say "even aliens support Pon Paul for president"Not exactly what we're looking for in the GOP primary :)



Carol probably called him herself.No. Don't speculate please, it's not productive and can lead to rumors which cause problems. :)



I love Carol Paul. I met them in Orlando at One Eyed Jacks.Yeah that was a night I'll never forget! What a great time :D



Well....Collins is known in some circles as 'Deep Throat'
And for those who think it's something sexual, it's not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_throat

[thehighwaymanq]

GREAT NEWS! Some things I believe we need to aim for:

1) 15 million dollar money bomb ( i realize that is a massive number, but we can absolutely pull that one off with the right advertising)
2) 100,000 person march in D.C. ( physical showing of numbers for the media to report on, and lie about, and a celebration of liberty-minded individuals)
3) we all know what they are going to say about Ron Paul and his supporters, we need to be ready with answers about the racism thing, and we need to not ever get involved in attempts to discredit the movement
4) constant brainstorming and development of creative ideas for activism, thats what were known for and thats what attracts newcomers.
5) focusing in on the anti war and pro marijuana people
6) attempt to get the youth as interested in RP as Obama got in '08. Everyone says now " our kids are goin pay for this", the kids need to step up and voice their opinions. YAL will need to be huge in this election!
7) in addition to YAL, C4L needs to be ready to play a major role in this campaign
8) we need to resurrect all meet-up groups
9) regardless of how great or terrible the actual campaign is, the outcome will be determind by us. We all need to be on our game and work our asses off for this election.
10) donations will be at the top of our priority list- get ready to throw money into that campaign!

we can absolutely do this. Is an actual presidential victory possible? I don't know- but major spreading of this message WILL HAPPEN.

Get some rest tonight folks, its going to be a long next two years, three months.

-Matthew

[Pauls' Revere]

I sense a December 16th Money Bomb!!

Remind them of where the Tea Party came from.

YouTube - Ron Paul December 16th Money Bomb [12/16/07 TeaParty07.com] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDqneN4weE)

We did 12 Million in 2007!

[michaelwise]

I sense a December 16th Money Bomb!!

Remind them of where the Tea Party came from.

YouTube - Ron Paul December 16th Money Bomb [12/16/07 TeaParty07.com] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDqneN4weE)It still amazes me they still don't know us Paulies started this new Tea Party movement. I would like to get documentation of the events that followed our primary loss with us guys continuing the movement and the subsequent hijacking of it by Glenn Beck.

[Bergie Bergeron]

I don't know the rules about this so are C4L and YAL officially allowed to push/help/organize a candidate? Obviously the members will but can the organization do it?

[Anti Federalist]

Nothing has "changed".

Obama owns the wars.

Ron Paul 2012!!!!

YouTube - Ron Paul Our Power Our Responsibility (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6SODAhbJdE)

[YumYum]

3) we all know what they are going to say about Ron Paul and his supporters, we need to be ready with answers about the racism thing, and we need to not ever get involved in attempts to discredit the movement

Don't worry, we got that covered. We got Black Terrel and Black Peter Schiff to prove them wrong! :)

[Pauls' Revere]

It still amazes me they still don't know us Paulies started this new Tea Party movement. I would like to get documentation of the events that followed our primary loss with us guys continuing the movement and the subsequent hijacking of it by Glenn Beck.

Ron should annouce on Glen beck and remind him and his audience of the liberty movement.

[sailingaway]

Don't worry, we got that covered. We got Black Terrel and Black Peter Schiff to prove them wrong! :)

I think the racism thing has been so overused, it is a joke at this point. But maybe it will be an issue. Maybe not so much.

[MRoCkEd]

From piecing together different rumors and confirmed sources, it seems Ron Paul is serious considering it and has had consultants lay out some plans, but its still a matter of Ron deciding whether to go for it. I'd say its more than likely - let's make sure he does!

[Bergie Bergeron]

I don't know the rules about this so are C4L and YAL officially allowed to push/help/organize a candidate? Obviously the members will but can the organization do it?
:confused:

[libertybrewcity]

Just a thought. maybe Peter Schiff could run and we could phonebank 200 million people. what do you think?:_

[thehighwaymanq]

campaign for liberty needs to hold a national tea party convention and bring in as many people and organizations into our fold as possible.

totally agree

[speciallyblend]

From piecing together different rumors and confirmed sources, it seems Ron Paul is serious considering it and has had consultants lay out some plans, but its still a matter of Ron deciding whether to go for it. I'd say its more than likely - let's make sure he does!

I demand Ron Paul 2012!! i am cooking chocolate chip cookies for him now:)

[HarryBrowneLives]

If your correct Matt RP and crew will literally need a server farm for the kickoff money bomb :D

[fj45lvr]

This time he will rock it hard and all bets are off. Everything will be on the table. The gloves are coming off.


I don't know....I sure wish that would happen but "gloves coming off" is not his style as he is far to "gentlemenly" when in reality this IS PERSONAL and it is WARFARE (not some show of "statesmanship" where the the good ole USA "can turn things around" if we only yada yada yada. I want to see the opposing "frauds" on stage shredded to bits for what they really are and who they really represent.

I am not very optimistic when the GOP base is as STUPID as ever...still believing their BIG GOVERNMENT stooges rhetoric!!!!! Where the neo-cons are "conservative" and their "ire" is pinned on mexicans and muslims while they are being bent over by their so-called "leaders" AKA real enemies.

The populous is much too stupid to ever understand and comprehend PAUL (besides the fact that the populous DOES NOT WANT actual "liberty" (because they'd have to take care and be responsible for themselves).

Last go around I had to chuckle about a bunch of folks jumping on Paul's bandwagon and they had no idea what he really stood for except for trivial things that appealed to them (and if they really knew I am positive they would have been in shock).

[Jace]

Start saving your money
Start getting involved in your local GOP
Start building your contact lists
Start working your precincts
Start going door to door


Ron Paul
WILL BE
running
in 2012!

(barring any unforeseen circumstances)


You heard it here first, and you heard it from me :)


This is exciting!

[Mr.Magnanimous]

This is the best news I've ever heard in my life! Only this video can express my feelings

YouTube - Spaced -Tim Bisleys Happy Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeqZpbuZlqI)

[DjLoTi]

I want to, but when you watch that part in the For Liberty movie, the bit about it only being able to fly under certain weather conditions does limit it... we need to do something spectacular, however. We have a reputation to uphold! :D

for... 1/4 of the price (ONE FOURTH or 25%!!!)... We could have a REAL radio station... reaching 500k people... IN IOWA.... for A YEAR

I recently wrote like 15 pages on my plans for a radio station, the benefits, and the challenges. Personally I think it's the best way to go. I'll post that thread up some time this week. I guess it's time to start getting ready.... (???????)

[Kregisen]

Guys the blimp idea in 2008 was stupid.

















I propose TWO blimps.

[Mr.Magnanimous]

I propose TWO blimps.

Ingenious! That just might win us the election!

[KurtBoyer25L]

The radio station idea intrigues me. I can't wait to hear more, DJ.

I know there's an understandable impulse to be like, well, we lost last time, let's prepare ourselves for the worst & just spread the message. But remember that this time, whoever wins the GOP primary is going to win the presidency, barring either A) a complete turnaround of the economy, war effort and Obama's image in 2 years (not happening) or B) a born-again, Neoconservative, fascist whack job winning the primary (think Huckabee). With Ron's support among (real) liberals and independents, he can't lose to Obama. They might try to dig up dirt or catch him off guard in a debate/interview/stump speech, but any kind of normal Republican candidate will have such an advantage this go-around anyway. Ron could dig a hole and get in it (i.e. play completely safe) and come out a President.

So winning the primary means winning the whole thing. And I have to imagine that where there's a will, there's a way with the primary. Especially if what everybody says is true about Iowa and a few other key states carrying a candidate to a win. People are envisioning a pitched battle on the convention floor, but my gut feeling is that old habits are hard to break in politics. Whoever wins the primary race will get the nomination.

And I still think there are untapped liberal/youth markets for Ron Paul. I don't really think a great number of college kids voted in the 2008 primary, especially in states that require party registration. Not that none of them cared, it's just not something a lot of kids do. And there was peer pressure against registering as GOP, even for one day, because of the pro-war, pro-poverty, pro-corporate, anti-weed, anti-gay rights image of the GOP. That can change this time. We have to get the message across that the Ron Paul movement is hijacking/commandeering a major political party for purposes anti-war, anti-poverty, anti-racist, pro-equal rights. THAT will get the great masses of young people on our side, more than just a few tuned-in intellectuals. "Republican" is just a word. It can be done.

[Marc]

Just want to add that I'm definitely super excited about Ron running again. I guess I need to figure out why Ron polled so low in the primaries here in Springfield MO when I made and hung more signs around town than anyone.

Maybe our signs need to addres the question of "why Paul?" as opposed to simply "Ron Paul Revolution" and "Ron Paul 08" or "Google Ron Paul". My next signs will read something like....

"Prosperity? Ron Paul 2012", "Integrity? Ron Paul 2012", or "Consistency? Ron Paul 2012"....something along those lines. Our signs have to address that. Otherwise it's just a name.

http://www.animateclay.com/ronpaul2012/signtips.jpg

[itshappening]

There needs to be a rally for the Republic in 2011, to really kick things off

[KurtBoyer25L]

Marc, first thank you for all of your hard work. I live in MO, doesn't make me necessarily an expert to give advice, but I think Springfield is more like Oklahoma or Arkansas than any other town we have here. Most of it is very Protestant, evangelical bible-belt Protestant. You know that video televangelist chick down there who made a video like four years ago where she said the problem was that people think too much, because humans aren't able to get Jesus' message through our "Leeeeeeettle teeny-weeny brains" so we should just sit back and accept the church's word on everything? That kind of says it all. Then you have like 10% rebellious punk kids who are probably just radical left-wing because it's trendy, and counter to the GOP voting morays of the church elders.

I think what you have to do is talk to individuals, signs won't do anything if people know who he is but made up their minds already. Ron Paul is right when he says the freedom message brings people together. It does, but the political corollary to that is that you can angle the message toward the listener. I wouldn't talk to old people in Springfield about personal liberty in general. But you could talk about Ron Paul's support OF the church against certain government restriction & intervention. Most proselytizing Christians are big local-education-control fans because they wouldn't have D.C. imposing rules about praying, teaching evolution, black history, science in general, A = A or electricity...powered appliances...um, sorry, got carried away there.:-) They like local education. Ask them if they watch Glenn Beck, he's solidly in Ron's corner now. Talk about the drastically lower taxes and gun rights, property rights, etc. All kinds of traditional GOP issues that were perverted by neocons and church opportunists are good Ron Paul talking points for getting the Archie Bunker vote.

And there are colleges down there. We need to campaign hard at all colleges. Not with signs but with direct communication and encouraging young liberty activists. If you run into liberals, just explain how Ron is more of a true liberal than Obama. Talk up his stances on the Patriot Act, gay rights, drugs, the "War is Making you Poor Act" w/ Kucinich and the ongoing dialogue/friendship with Nader. Mention that he did not favor cutting unemployment benefits & how he plans to spend approximately half of the current war budget to tide over the poor and elderly.

I think "Ron Paul 2012" or "Revolution" are still the best bet. Prosperity is a what-not-how rhetorical proposition, Integrity is a common political boast, and Consistency falls flat because many voters are regretfully starting with the proposition that libertarians are consistently fucked up. But keep the ideas coming! Great work and thanks!

(It's wrong for a newbie to take the reins & give such advice, but it's 4:50 AM MO time and I thought I'd help a brotha out).

[justinc.1089]

we could do a crop circle lol, appeal to our fringe base.

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle

Omg I laughed so hard I started coughing!

[IPSecure]

Everyone needs to either learn Roberts Rules in depth, or we need to hire Professional Parliamentarians in order to smack down the neoconservative controlled republicrat party...

Becoming a delegate is as easy as showing up after the voting ends. So simple everyone should do it!

Also, Gingrich has an unlimited fund raising capability, with his 527 group. (wonder if the fedres will support him)

[justinc.1089]

Guys the blimp idea in 2008 was stupid.


I propose TWO blimps.




NO.


For the price of ONE BLIMP, according to another poster, we could have OUR OWN RADIO STATION for an ENTIRE YEAR in IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, SOUTH CAROLINA, and whatever other primary state we choose, or TWO RADIO STATIONS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.

For the price of TWO BLIMPS, we could have EIGHT RADIO STATIONS FOR A YEAR!


Think about it...

[RonPaulFanInGA]

no need we can blackmail him with my avatar;) snickers:) the collins better give up some info. i pulled the secret weapon out:)

YouTube - Matt Collins of Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty Does Truffle Shuffle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU1xMyCGiAA)

[t0rnado]

for... 1/4 of the price (ONE FOURTH or 25%!!!)... We could have a REAL radio station... reaching 500k people... IN IOWA.... for A YEAR

I recently wrote like 15 pages on my plans for a radio station, the benefits, and the challenges. Personally I think it's the best way to go. I'll post that thread up some time this week. I guess it's time to start getting ready.... (???????)

Start a pirate radio station. It's free, but probably not legal.

http://www.diymedia.net/links/lstart.htm

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

for... 1/4 of the price (ONE FOURTH or 25%!!!)... We could have a REAL radio station... reaching 500k people... IN IOWA.... for A YEAR

I recently wrote like 15 pages on my plans for a radio station, the benefits, and the challenges. Personally I think it's the best way to go. I'll post that thread up some time this week. I guess it's time to start getting ready.... (???????)

I have been saying forever that we need some real media outlets and when you post plans for this than count me in as someone who will contribute. If possible I will even come out to Iowa and take a shift on the air or work on the staff at the station or something....anything... let's just get this done.

[Ireland4Liberty]

This thread makes me smile.