Ron Paul polls 10% for 2012 GOP Nomination (highest national numbers yet)

[Rogerwho?]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/13/cnn-poll-whos-on-top-in-hunt-for-2012-gop-nomination/

Romney 21
Palin 18
Gingrich 15
Huckabee 14

EDIT: 2012 Nomination

[djdellisanti4]

Its a better start than last election, but I have trouble believing we can duplicate the same results.

[Jordan]

We have work to do:


"More than half of all Republicans we questioned consider themselves Tea Party supporters or active members of the Tea Party movement," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Romney tops the list among Tea Party Republicans; Gingrich is next on that list and Palin is in third."

[low preference guy]

this is huge. if he has 10%, there's no way he will be excluded from the debates. and i think RP can triple his support by performing well in the debates, so it won't be shocking if he gets 30%. with many candidates, that might be enough to win.

[MRoCkEd]

Moving on up!

http://i.imgur.com/r6iVp.png


National Polls:
CNN August 2010 national poll - 10% for Ron Paul - 9 way race - http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/13/cnn-poll-whos-on-top-in-hunt-for-2012-gop-nomination/
PPP July 2010 national poll - 7% for Ron Paul - 5 way race - http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/07/gingrich-leads.html
PPP June 2010 national poll - 6% for Ron Paul - 5 way race - http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/monthly-gop-poll.html
PPP May 2010 national poll - 8% for Ron Paul - 5 way race - http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/jumble-for-gop.html
CNN April 2010 national poll: 8% for Ron Paul - 9 way race (w/Santorum, Pence, Barbour, Pawlenty, Gingrich): http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/04/13/rel7d.pdf (PDF)
PPP March 2010 national poll - 11% for Ron Paul - 4 way race (no Gingrich): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/03/romney-leads-tight-republican-race.html
Gallup February 2010 poll: 2% for Ron Paul (open ended poll, so it's lower): http://www.gallup.com/poll/125777/Voters-Divided-Obama-Republican-Candidate-2012.aspx

[K466]

We are on track for an exciting election. This time we are RUNNING TO WIN.

Also, you can edit the title. Click to edit your comment, and then click go advanced. I really don't want to wait till 20102 for Ron Paul to run...

[jmdrake]

We have work to do:

"More than half of all Republicans we questioned consider themselves Tea Party supporters or active members of the Tea Party movement," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Romney tops the list among Tea Party Republicans; Gingrich is next on that list and Palin is in third."


Ugggg! We need fliers to pass out at all future tea party rallies with the following messages:

Romneycare = Obamacare
Gingrich = Support for Nancy Pelosi on "climate change"
Palin = Support for the Bush Bailout

[WhiteHaven]

Jesus. People are stupid to even think of voting for anyone else. More of the same bs. I bet you both Romney and Huckabee are like McCain when it comes to illegals and the wars we are in. Palin well she is just an idiot.

[malkusm]

13% of men, 14% of self-described "Independents" who are likely Republican voters, and 12% of those under age 50.

The problem continues to be the older folks, hardline GOP voters, and women.

[CoreyBowen999]

DAMN you old people. :)

[sailingaway]

It depends on what you count as polling. His high is 41% against Obama's 42% in the head to head poll they did. Recently he polled 13% as a independent against Romney and Obama in a PPP poll (which, given PPP's 'house effect' might well mean he'd poll high enough to get into the debates.... sigh... yeah, I know he doesn't want to run that way....) and he's polled 10 or maybe 11% against a stable of GOP candidates in various states, and they hadn't yet polled places like Montana or Idaho.

[malkusm]

DAMN you old people. :)

I seriously think that if we can get a charismatic figure into office as the face of the liberty movement over the next 10 years who isn't named Ron Paul (Rand? Amash?), the dynamics of the population will have changed enough that one of our candidates can be the frontrunner for President.

Most of the older folks vote only because "it's their civic duty," knowing little about the candidates other than what the talking heads on TV say (since they grew up with Cronkite, who could do no wrong).

[NCGOPer_for_Paul]

This is very, very encouraging.

The 2012 race is between Gingrich, Pailn, and Paul. Romney will be exposed before the primaries, just like Guiliani was, and Huckabee will poll is 10% of evangelicals.

There has to be a strategy in place to be able to steal a key early state. That keeps both Palin and Gingrich in it long enough to be able to pick off delegates up to Super Tuesday.

[South Park Fan]

A statistical tie for third place is pretty good this far in the cycle. Although when it comes down to it, the 13% in New Hampshire will be more important than the 10% Nationally.

[CoreyBowen999]

This is a great base. By 2011, we should be off an running. We NEED a good start if Paul decides to run.

[Epic]

POLL TRACKER

State polls:
13% in New Hampshire (PPP, July 23-25 2010, 7 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/07/romney-continues-to-lead-in-nh.html
7% in Nevada (PPP, July 16-18 2010, 5 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/07/2012-floridanevada-gop-numbes.html
6% in Florida (PPP, July 16-18 2010, 5 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/07/2012-floridanevada-gop-numbes.html
11% in Pennsylvania (PPP, June 19-21 2010, 5 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/little-support-for-perry-pres-bid.html
8% in Texas (PPP, June 19-21 2010, 6 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/little-support-for-perry-pres-bid.html
10% in Texas (PPP, June 19-21 2010, 5 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/little-support-for-perry-pres-bid.html
7% in Iowa (PPP, May 31 2010, 7 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
7% in South Carolina (PPP, May 31 2010, 6 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
6% in Michigan (PPP, May 31 2010, 5 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
6% in New Hampshire (Magellan, May 2010, 7 choices) http://www.magellanstrategies.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Magellan-New-Hampshire-GOP-US-Senate-Primary-Survey-Release-0528101.pdf
10% in California (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/gingrich-looking-serious.html
9% in Colorado (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices) http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_CO_518.pdf (PDF)
8% in North Carolina (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/looking-at-our-gop-polling.html
8% in Kentucky (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/paul-still-up-big.html
6% in Kentucky (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/paul-continues-to-lead-big.html
9% in Arizona (PPP, April 2010, 5 choices ) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/04/2012-gop-in-arizona.html
7% in New Hampshire (PPP, April 2010, 8 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/04/romney-up-big-in-new-hampshire.html

National Polls:
10% (CNN August 2010 9 choices): http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/13/cnn-poll-whos-on-top-in-hunt-for-2012-gop-nomination/
7% (PPP July 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/07/gingrich-leads.html
6% (PPP June 2010, 5 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/monthly-gop-poll.html
8% (PPP May 2010, 5 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/jumble-for-gop.html
8% (CNN April 2010, 9 choices): http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/04/13/rel7d.pdf (PDF)
11% (PPP March 2010, 4 choices) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/03/romney-leads-tight-republican-race.html
8% (CNN March 2010 9 choices) http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/25/rel5i.pdf (PDF)
2% (Gallup February 2010, open-ended poll) http://www.gallup.com/poll/125777/Voters-Divided-Obama-Republican-Candidate-2012.aspx

Versus Obama:
Obama(D) 42 Romney(R) 36 Paul(I) 13 (PPP August 2010) http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/13/cnn-poll-whos-on-top-in-hunt-for-2012-gop-nomination/http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/08/monthly-2012.html
Obama 46 Paul 36 (PPP June 2010, Paul wins indeps 46-28) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/obama-up-in-2012-contests.html
Obama 42 Paul 41 (Rasmussen March 2010, highlighted by Drudge) http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41
Obama 46 Paul 38 (PPP November 2009) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/11/monthly-2012-numbers.html

[YumYum]

We NEED a good start if Paul decides to run.

Yeah, no use putting the cart before the horse.

Polls are like political Viagra for some people.

[Stary Hickory]

DAMN you old people. :)

Ron Paul is old why hate on their own!

[Epic]

11% in Pennsylvania, 13% in New Hampshire and 10% nationally...

Ron Paul has been polling well lately...

[Stary Hickory]

I seriously think that if we can get a charismatic figure into office as the face of the liberty movement over the next 10 years who isn't named Ron Paul (Rand? Amash?), the dynamics of the population will have changed enough that one of our candidates can be the frontrunner for President.

Most of the older folks vote only because "it's their civic duty," knowing little about the candidates other than what the talking heads on TV say (since they grew up with Cronkite, who could do no wrong).

Rand has a serious chance, and even in 2012(Obama pulled this off). The GOP lacks any candidates who are not old establishment relics, the mood is very anti-establishment. Rand Paul fits the bill quiet nicely.

I have hopes for him in 2012.

[Kregisen]

13% of men, 14% of self-described "Independents" who are likely Republican voters, and 12% of those under age 50.

The problem continues to be the older folks, hardline GOP voters, and women.

Old people don't do research but I guess when you live your first 60 years of your life without internet or any other means of communication besides your color television set, you aren't gonna suddenly switch.

Atleast more old people will die by 2012 (okay that was horrible....but true). I really don't see anyone currently over the age of 70 to be converted to the liberty movement. Just not gonna happen.

Hardline GOP voters....only way to deal with them is get Freedom Watch more ratings and hope it reaches FNC, or pray that hell freezes over and Beck endorses Ron.

Women.....I think just by statistics, women for the most part don't care about politics as much, don't do as much research, and vote on emotion more-so than men. (though there's obviously still many that do)

[itshappening]

Don't forget Ron has a significant fundraising edge too which will put him within striking distance of the top 2, i.e Palin and the self funding Romney

If Ron announces early there is no doubt he can build a war chest and run ads in Iowa and New Hampshire attacking Romneycare, Newt the fake and portraying himself as a conservative leader

[Anti Federalist]

Ron, please, if you are even considering the idea, announce, now!

[TheTyke]

I think the perfect time would be on the heels of a huge Randslide in November. But we have to make that happen first!

[rich34]

Anyone that is trying to discourage another run I have to question their motives...

Anyone that was around when the revolution started would know that Ron wasn't even polling when he started and was hardly even on the radar even when Iowa and New Hampshire was around the corner. To put this mildly, FOLKS THIS IS HUGE!! Paul is going to be a very serious contender this time around so all you peeps that are on the fence either need to take a shit or get off the pot!!

[nobody's_hero]

Rand has a serious chance, and even in 2012(Obama pulled this off). The GOP lacks any candidates who are not old establishment relics, the mood is very anti-establishment. Rand Paul fits the bill quiet nicely.

I have hopes for him in 2012.

Eh. I don't know about the whole leaving Senate thing to shoot for the presidency right away. It makes you look like you're just looking to move up the ladder ASAP, than to actually represent the people of your district. Since that has been the pinnacle of Rand Paul's campaign appeal, it might come across as a bit hypocritical of him.

I have high hopes for 2016, though.

[bolidew]

He don't have to announce the earliest but need to prepare for it NOW.

[Epic]

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/13/ppp-poll-palin-leads-gop-field-among-republicans-who-say-theyve-smoked-pot/

Paul struggling in PPP August national poll...

[Anti Federalist]

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/13/ppp-poll-palin-leads-gop-field-among-republicans-who-say-theyve-smoked-pot/

Paul struggling in PPP August national poll...

Gag poll


The sample size was only, er, 83 people, but even so, I’m intrigued to see her so far ahead of Ron Paul, whom you might think would have this particular market cornered. Either her brand as a western libertarian-ish type is stronger than we realized or pot-smoking is so mainstream even among Republicans that there’s no “fringe effect” when polling this particular demographic. When you sample a group of conservatives who’ve smoked weed, you end up with … a group of conservatives, not the pilots of the next “rEVOLution” blimp or whatever. Exit question: Which formerly lefty issue will a majority of the right embrace first, marijuana legalization or gay marriage?

[Epic]

antifed, I think the sample size *among republicans who had smoked marijuana* was 83 people. The entire poll is usually 500. PPP does this every month. Looks like RP is just gonna get 5% or so this month. Last month he got 7 or 8 I think.

[Anti Federalist]

antifed, I think the sample size *among republicans who had smoked marijuana* was 83 people. The entire poll is usually 500. PPP does this every month. Looks like RP is just gonna get 5% or so this month. Last month he got 7 or 8 I think.

83 people is a legitimate sample?

I really thought it was a gag.

Oh well...thanks for the info.

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

Ron needs to announce shortly after the November elections and he needs to announce that he's running with Judge Napolitano as his VP. Bringing the Judge on board from square one will provide a huge boost to Ron's poll numbers and the public perception of his viability.

But will the Judge be willing to do it? I hope so. I encourage people to send letters of support for this idea to the Judge.

Judge Andrew Napolitano
c/o FOX News Channel
1211 Avenue of the Americas, 2nd Floor
New York, NY 10036

[TheTyke]

Ron needs to announce shortly after the November elections and he needs to announce that he's running with Judge Napolitano as his VP. Bringing the Judge on board from square one will provide a huge boost to Ron's poll numbers and the public perception of his viability.

But will the Judge be willing to do it? I hope so. I encourage people to send letters of support for this idea to the Judge.

Judge Andrew Napolitano
c/o FOX News Channel
1211 Avenue of the Americas, 2nd Floor
New York, NY 10036

That's a really great idea... the Judge is amazing, and is now getting quite a following. One thing that hampered Ron was that he was busy with his duties in Congress and couldn't visit key areas as often as his rivals... the Judge could travel around speaking on behalf of the ticket which would be HUGE!!!

[Fredom101]

I fail to understand the point of the so-called tea party. If they all want Romney and Palin, why aren't they just the GOP?

[LibertyEagle]

Anyone that is trying to discourage another run I have to question their motives...

Anyone that was around when the revolution started would know that Ron wasn't even polling when he started and was hardly even on the radar even when Iowa and New Hampshire was around the corner. To put this mildly, FOLKS THIS IS HUGE!! Paul is going to be a very serious contender this time around so all you peeps that are on the fence either need to take a shit or get off the pot!!

Please tell me you aren't seriously believing that the revolution just started with the last presidential campaign?

There have been a lot of people for many, many years fighting these assholes. Our country would have bit the dust long ago, if not for these patriots.

[amonasro]

How the heck did Huckster drop 10%? Are people getting smart or what?

[RPgrassrootsactivist]

How the heck did Huckster drop 10%? Are people getting smart or what?

I suppose the answer is both yes and no. According to the chart at http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2839666&postcount=5 Huckabee and Romney dropped between March and August, and Palin remained static.

But while Ron gained, so did Newt. So there is both good and bad to be seen here, but probably more good than bad, because I don't think Newt is going to be a serious threat in 2012.

[Imperial]

Interwebz stole my post

[HOLLYWOOD]

13% of men, 14% of self-described "Independents" who are likely Republican voters, and 12% of those under age 50.

The problem continues to be the older folks, hardline GOP voters, and women.Because they're glued to FOX NEWS, etc... I had a discussion with a couple of senior citizen's last week, who want Romney or Newt to run in 2012. Brainwashed FOX and NEOCON right radio crap has made their choice for them. AARP Too.

I had to explain everything these guys have done for the last 25 years and it's repercussions on the economy, liberties, and country. Of course they were basing their decision upon what they are told from others in MSM. Never once either did any investigative research on any of the candidates. Always basing it on what they heard, are suppose to believe, or were told by MSM.

Then were lessons in Internet search engines, what to look for, and vetting candidates... even with exceptional teaching and exposes... it's still very hard to teach old dogs new tricks.

[james1906]

Because they're glued to FOX NEWS, etc... I had a discussion with a couple of senior citizen's last week, who want Romney or Newt to run in 2012. Brainwashed FOX and NEOCON right radio crap has made their choice for them. AARP Too.

I had to explain everything these guys have done for the last 25 years and it's repercussions on the economy, liberties, and country. Of course they were basing their decision upon what they are told from others in MSM. Never once either did any investigative research on any of the candidates. Always basing it on what they heard, are suppose to believe, or were told by MSM.

Then were lessons in Internet search engines, what to look for, and vetting candidates... even with exceptional teaching and exposes... it's still very hard to teach old dogs new tricks.

They can vote for reckless spending, as they aren't going to be the ones paying for it.

[paulitics]

Please tell me you aren't seriously believing that the revolution just started with the last presidential campaign?

There have been a lot of people for many, many years fighting these assholes. Our country would have bit the dust long ago, if not for these patriots.

I think he/she meant the RP revolution.

[paulitics]

I think people are truly underestimating what all this means.

[rich34]

Please tell me you aren't seriously believing that the revolution just started with the last presidential campaign?

There have been a lot of people for many, many years fighting these assholes. Our country would have bit the dust long ago, if not for these patriots.

All hell, you wanna pull out the ruler next because that's what this is equivalent to..

I guess a better phrase would be when the revolution awakened. I know there were people out there long before 2007, but that was the first that it became known just how much liberty minded people were out there and the result thereof networked like minded people from around the country into what is resulting in 10% for Ron Paul in national polls. Without Paul running and getting the revolution jump started we'd never be where we are today. That's all I meant.

[speciallyblend]

I think people are truly underestimating what all this means.

especially the gop;) if the gop screws it up this time. i don't think the gop gets a second chance! just my opinion!! i expect the gop to shape up or they will alienate themselves!!

[heavenlyboy34]

especially the gop;) if the gop screws it up this time. i don't think the gop gets a second chance! just my opinion!! i expect the gop to shape up or they will alienate themselves!!

Good for you! And I still like your avatar! :D:cool:

[osan]

Moving on up!

http://i.imgur.com/r6iVp.png


This is what at times seems so frightening about so many Americans - that so high a proportion would favor the likes of Romney, Palin, etc. over a Ron Paul. Sometimes it seems hopeless, but what can we do except to keep swinging?

To those who do not consider Paul I would ask: "how well have the offerings of the Demopublican and Republicrat parties worked out for you so far?" Press them on it and ask what leads them to believe that somehow this time things will be different. What have they to lose in trying something different? You can't get much worse than the "leadership" we have had foisted upon us since 1980, so why not take a chance? At worst the republic is lost. It is lost in any event if we put another insider clone into the oval office, so why not at least take the outside chance candidate - at least there is a chance, slim as it may be. Remind them of the old definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results.

Remember the campaign meme: "Ask youself this: are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?" Perhaps we need to be using that once more - only substitute 8 15 or 30 for 4. It seems to me that we need to yank peoples' thinking into that place and out of the ideological rut into which so many appear to have become stuck. Get them away from the right/left/demo/repub thought paradigm and into one that is focused on results - on the realities of life right here, right now and how it compares with10, 20, 30, and more years ago. Ask them why things are worse now than at any time in the history of the nation. If they respond with the usual regurgitations of "corporate greed" and the sort, you need to disabuse them of those phony baloney notions and help them to see what is really going on. How does corproate greed account for the behavior of those in government, for example. Use socratic method - questions, questions, and more questions - lead them to the conclusion so they run face first into the truth under their own power.

Many such people are just ignorant and deluded - not necessarily stupid or of an evil character. Help them see the way in terms of cost/benefit.

I swear if in 2012 another insider or some inept goon like Palin is seated, I think I may implode. For pity's sake, we have to do something better or we deserve the boot that is on our necks.

[osan]

Ugggg! We need fliers to pass out at all future tea party rallies with the following messages:

Romneycare = Obamacare
Gingrich = Support for Nancy Pelosi on "climate change"
Palin = Support for the Bush Bailout

Forgive me, but flyers are mostly a waste of time, methinks. I am thinking that the tea party is a good conduit for educating those who want a change but are somehow not quite grasping that the SOS is not going to cut the mustard.

One on one education is best, but small group meetings - tea party events - nobody "owns" it, so why organize your own? Invite like-minded friends for a Saturday dinner and introduce them to Ron Paul if they do not know about him or think he is some sort of a kook, or what have you. Teach them of the great virtue that is the act of voting one's consciousness instead of pursuing the one they think has the chance. It is precisely THAT mentality that keeps the vermin in office.

Small social gatherings are a great way to bring people aboard. Hit people up on the golf course, over a beer, around the poker table, while out fishing, at the range, and so on. There are SO many opportunities. You don't have to get into arguments about it or go on for hours necessarily. Bring it up amongst friends and acquaintances - make it a specific point to address the issue - disseminate the information and go with the level of interest. Learn how to maintain focus on the topic. There are legitimate tangents such as that of liberty and why it is better than anything else, but don't let those take over. Know your topic so that you can respond to most any curve an objector may throw. Be gentle and friendly and respectful at all times. Make it clear in your words and demeanor that you are there to help them understand something that you feel is important and that you are not trying to force anything upon them. Force will NEVER work there, but friendly and solidly presented persuasion might. Learn to recognize the lost causes - those so married to their ideas that no amount of reason and truth will shake them loose. For every one of those, there are perhaps five who will at least listen with reasonably open minds if you approach them properly. Make it personal. Make it personable. Make it truthful. Make it genuine.

We are running out of time and out of liberty. Both could be effectively gone in the coming few years. Get out there and talk about it face to face with those you know and encourage them to do the same. Remember the six degrees of separation? It would take only six iterations to spread the world to every man woman and child in the USA - perhaps only five or even four to expose every eligible voter. We have two years. We could accomplish an incredible amount in that time if we each held even only one dinner with six guests. How about a Labor Day barbeque? Short notive now, I know, but would it be worth a try? Come on over for good food, drink, and company and a short talk about Ron Paul and why it is so important that we put him in the white house in '12. Doesn't matter if your guests are reobubs or demos or commies. Well, OK, may not the commies. If we don't try we are guaranteed nothing. If we do, the worst that happens is nothing. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

OK, I'm off the soap box. Sorry.