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carlos1215
08-12-2010, 03:16 PM
How does one of these sheep have the audacity to walk into a voting booth....NOT KNOWING who the candidates are...

being IGNORANT is one thing.....but to be ignorant, and then show up to vote in spite of your admitted ignorance......is really sick..


if the other 51% had heard of Peter, he doubles his numbers and beats Mcmahon...what a shame.

Shimpchip
08-12-2010, 03:18 PM
gotta love democracy

XxNeXuSxX
08-12-2010, 03:53 PM
See my thread. Exams are NEEDED.

dannno
08-12-2010, 03:56 PM
People don't understand the power of the media. McMahon IS the media.

The media is the message.

klamath
08-12-2010, 04:32 PM
This is why Schiff lost. I truely believe that if he would have introduced himself to the majority of the CT people he would have won. That is where his campaign sucked. 3 million should have done that.

dude58677
08-12-2010, 04:32 PM
You are taking this the wrong way. He gets 22 percent of the vote among the GOP in a State such as CT and only half the voters heard of him, yet a large portion of them liked his message. Now that is just ...amazing! This Ron Paul Revolution is really catching on!:)

SamuraisWisdom
08-12-2010, 05:48 PM
This is why Schiff lost. I truely believe that if he would have introduced himself to the majority of the CT people he would have won. That is where his campaign sucked. 3 million should have done that.

Not in CT. This is an extremely expensive state for everything including advertising, especially since it's so close to NYC and Boston. Schiff would have needed at least $10 million to blanket the state with ads for an extended period of time. Think about it, a lot of the $3 million was spent in the last 2 weeks prior to the election, so if he wanted to have the same consistency of advertising he would have needed a lot more money.

K466
08-12-2010, 06:14 PM
He did not even need to fully double his numbers. A jump to 40 percent would have been enough. He needed at least 80% name recognition.

This is where 2012 has a good advantage. We’ll need less money than otherwise in 2012 because his name recognition is up from <2% to almost 50%. We did not waste money this time around. It laid the foundation.

G-Wohl
08-12-2010, 06:16 PM
This is why Schiff lost. I truely believe that if he would have introduced himself to the majority of the CT people he would have won. That is where his campaign sucked. 3 million should have done that.

Listen: I've done a bit of television marketing in CT. Drop it. You are WRONG.

klamath
08-12-2010, 06:19 PM
Not in CT. This is an extremely expensive state for everything including advertising, especially since it's so close to NYC and Boston. Schiff would have needed at least $10 million to blanket the state with ads for an extended period of time. Think about it, a lot of the $3 million was spent in the last 2 weeks prior to the election, so if he wanted to have the same consistency of advertising he would have needed a lot more money.
Nope, don't buy it. That was just the problem. spending the 3 million at the last. He should have spent it last fall getting his name recognition up. His poll numbers would have jumped and people would have been encouraged to donate more. Staying stagnant in the polls for 9 months killed donor enthusasm. This was the same stupid mistake Rudy did by betting all his money on FL. It was over by that time. There are ways to get your name recognition up without expensive radio and tv ads. I live in California which is one heck of a lot more expensive media market than CT. Chuck Devore did as well as Schiff with a few hundred thousand. Phone banking last fall would have helped a lot. Mailers to all registered R's in the state.
His campaign wasn't run right. He needed better staff. I want him to learn from it and get it right the next time. RP had a bad campaign staff as well and if he runs again I hope he learned from the last time.

klamath
08-12-2010, 06:21 PM
Listen: I've done a bit of television marketing in CT. Drop it. You are WRONG.

I forgot to mention having people like G-wohl around cost him alot in the election.

G-Wohl
08-12-2010, 06:27 PM
Nope, don't buy it. That was just the problem. spending the 3 million at the last. He should have spent it last fall getting his name recognition up. His poll numbers would have jumped and people would have been encouraged to donate more. Staying stagnant in the polls for 9 months killed donor enthusasm. This was the same stupid mistake Rudy did by betting all his money on FL. It was over by that time. There are ways to get your name recognition up without expensive radio and tv ads. I live in California which is one heck of a lot more expensive media market than CT. Chuck Devore did as well as Schiff with a few hundred thousand. Phone banking last fall would have helped a lot. Mailers to all registered R's in the state.
His campaign wasn't run right. He needed better staff. I want him to learn from it and get it right the next time. RP had a bad campaign staff as well and if he runs again I hope he learned from the last time.

Where in California? Unless you're in the LA dma, you aren't even CLOSE to the dma costs of NYC. California makes up 8% of the television homes in this country, while all CT dmas total at 11%. All ct dmas but one are in the top 25 in the US, while only three from California make up that list.

G-Wohl
08-12-2010, 06:36 PM
I forgot to mention having people like G-wohl around cost him alot in the election.

You just made my ignore list. Congrats - you're my first. You didn't do a single god damned thing for Peter. I have been on the ground for Peter since he announced, and I was one of the few who worked with Chad to convince him to run in the first place. I am one of the reasons Peter had a campaign to lose in the first place.

Get fucked, seriously.

XxNeXuSxX
08-12-2010, 06:49 PM
You just made my ignore list. Congrats - you're my first. You didn't do a single god damned thing for Peter. I have been on the ground for Peter since he announced, and I was one of the few who worked with Chad to convince him to run in the first place. I am one of the reasons Peter had a campaign to lose in the first place.

Get fucked, seriously.

G-Wohl don't do this, he is just bitter we lost this election. I just fought this idiotic girl democrat leader for about 7 hours today and I know you're right, she never heard of him despite campaigning for Blumenthal for 6 months already! I'm a Grad at UConn, trust me I know how frustrating this state is.

We need to be united in these times. We have disagreements but there's no reason to fight.

klamath
08-12-2010, 06:50 PM
You just made my ignore list. Congrats - you're my first. You didn't do a single god damned thing for Peter. I have been on the ground for Peter since he announced, and I was one of the few who worked with Chad to convince him to run in the first place. I am one of the reasons Peter had a campaign to lose in the first place.

Get fucked, seriously.

Good, You did more to harm Schiff around here than anyone. I am sure you ran more voters away than you ever got. Besides the campaign is over you can leave these forums.

XxNeXuSxX
08-12-2010, 06:51 PM
G-Wohl don't do this, he is just bitter we lost this election. I just fought this idiotic girl democrat leader for about 7 hours today and I know you're right, she never heard of him despite campaigning for Blumenthal for 6 months already! I'm a Grad at UConn, trust me I know how frustrating this state is.

We need to be united in these times. We have disagreements but there's no reason to fight.
This girl literally just sinked to "fuck you, you sick fuck" when I attempted to explain the economic turmoil caused by Congress in a non party-oriented fashion.

There's no getting through to some people; we must get rid of them through examinations of the Constitution.

I'd recommend classes on BASIC ECONOMICS too, because I know advanced economics in this country would be naturally skewed towards Keynes and the Federal Reserve.

klamath
08-12-2010, 06:54 PM
Where in California? Unless you're in the LA dma, you aren't even CLOSE to the dma costs of NYC. California makes up 8% of the television homes in this country, while all CT dmas total at 11%. All ct dmas but one are in the top 25 in the US, while only three from California make up that list.
And everyone of those areas in California have to be bought into. The state is so big there is no overlapping of tv and radio markets.

XxNeXuSxX
08-12-2010, 07:00 PM
Good, You did more to harm Schiff around here than anyone. I am sure you ran more voters away than you ever got. Besides the campaign is over you can leave these forums.


Stop man, please

G-Wohl
08-12-2010, 07:02 PM
And everyone of those areas in California have to be bought into. The state is so big there is no overlapping of tv and radio markets.

11 > 8. :rolleyes:

klamath
08-12-2010, 07:31 PM
Stop man, please

I'm sorry but you don't know the history. This person has repeatedly come onto these forums and bashed RP and Rand. Our own member Gunny for freedom running for NC statehouse was without provacation was called a "Nameless Goon" by him.
Gunny by the way is leading his democratic opponent.
I generally ignore the guy unless he is bashing RP, Rand or Gunny or slams me.