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qh4dotcom
08-09-2010, 05:38 PM
Comment below posted on the official Ron Paul Facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/ronpaul



Please... Please... Please! run in 2012. We need you! I voted for Obama. I still try to support him since I still think he's doing better than McCain could have. Bush left us with a hell of a mess. We are loosing everything and not getting the CHANGE we were expecting. We need someone who can make the tough decisions and not just increas debt.

sevin
08-09-2010, 06:20 PM
lolz

CoreyBowen999
08-09-2010, 06:22 PM
what. an. idiot.

james1906
08-09-2010, 06:54 PM
lolz

no, loolz

jmdrake
08-09-2010, 08:07 PM
That's not surprising. I know multiple people who have favorable views of Ron Paul, are disappointed in Obama, and yet still can't bring themselves to completely stop supporting Obama. Many Obama voters really thought Obama would be a "peace president" and just wouldn't believe me when I tried to explain from Obama's rhetoric and record that he was for expanding the war in Afghanistan, wasn't committed to ending the war in Iraq and supported warrantless wiretapping and other abuses of the constitution.

That said, this is good news. To win in 2012 we need to win over disgruntled Obama voters. Many of these people only supported Obama because they mistakenly thought he would end the wars and restore civil liberties. While some Obama supporters are committed socialists, those who only voted for Obama because he fooled them into thinking he would end the Bush abuses are possibly up for grabs.

Legend1104
08-09-2010, 08:11 PM
ya know, I was thinking the other day that it did not really matter who we voted for (mccain v. obama). The only real difference would have been that mccain would have voted down the health care bill (probably). Gitmo would still be the same, the wars would still be basically the same, the bailout would have been the same (mccain supported bailouts), the debt would still probably be the same, Bernake would still be the Fed head. If we don't get a Paul candidate next election, then what is the point?

jmdrake
08-09-2010, 08:21 PM
ya know, I was thinking the other day that it did not really matter who we voted for (mccain v. obama). The only real difference would have been that mccain would have voted down the health care bill (probably). Gitmo would still be the same, the wars would still be basically the same, the bailout would have been the same (mccain supported bailouts), the debt would still probably be the same, Bernake would still be the Fed head. If we don't get a Paul candidate next election, then what is the point?

Actually I think McCain would have proposed a similar healtcare bill. Think about it. One thing that BSNBC actually got right in the healthcare debate is that the plan the GOP rejected in 2010 was basically the plan the were pushing in the early 1990s as an alternative to Hillarycare. The "unconstitutional mandate" was a centerpiece to Dole-Gingrichcare. And that's also the centerpiece to Romneycare. The so called "Heritage Foundation" also endorsed a health insurance mandate. And John McCain endorsed a tax on "Cadillac health plans" when he was running. So it's quite likely that a McCain presidency would have brought us McCainCare which would have essentially been Obamacare but with bi-partisan support. (Some republicans would have voted for it just because a republican president proposed it and most of the dems would have voted for in just to support big government. Different loyalties, same result).

2young2vote
08-09-2010, 10:51 PM
Unfortunately, i have met at least 2 Ron Paul supporters who were not too smart. One was a bagger in a local store and he saw my Ron Paul hat and he said "Oh hey, i love Ron Paul. He wants to kick all of the mexicans out of the country, so do i they are annoying. Yeah, i was hoping he'd run for Governor of Michigan. That would have been cool."

First of all, you don't talk about finding certain people annoying with customers. It just isn't a good thing for the business.
Second of all, Governor of Michigan? WTF, this is self explanatory.

Another person was just some air-headed bimbo who i work with. When i asked why she liked Ron Paul she responded "Oh, He's the cute old man. The rest of them were bad, but he was cute."

I'm glad these people believe in the message that Ron Paul is giving, but i don't think that we should take for granted people "waking up". From what i can tell, they really don't have a clue and could probably very easily be converted by a well spoken and likable liberal candidate.

zade
08-09-2010, 10:53 PM
These are the normal feelings of a confused person, don't just laugh and call the person an idiot. The person says they are "trying" to still have hope but correctly notice that nothing is changing and the debt is just increasing. So instead of ridiculing why not welcome the attention and try to fully convert someone who seems to be on the right path?

RM918
08-09-2010, 11:10 PM
Unfortunately, i have met at least 2 Ron Paul supporters who were not too smart. One was a bagger in a local store and he saw my Ron Paul hat and he said "Oh hey, i love Ron Paul. He wants to kick all of the mexicans out of the country, so do i they are annoying. Yeah, i was hoping he'd run for Governor of Michigan. That would have been cool."

First of all, you don't talk about finding certain people annoying with customers. It just isn't a good thing for the business.
Second of all, Governor of Michigan? WTF, this is self explanatory.

Another person was just some air-headed bimbo who i work with. When i asked why she liked Ron Paul she responded "Oh, He's the cute old man. The rest of them were bad, but he was cute."

I'm glad these people believe in the message that Ron Paul is giving, but i don't think that we should take for granted people "waking up". From what i can tell, they really don't have a clue and could probably very easily be converted by a well spoken and likable liberal candidate.

Hah! You think the vast majority of voters put much more stock into their votes?

silus
08-10-2010, 12:24 AM
These are the normal feelings of a confused person, don't just laugh and call the person an idiot. The person says they are "trying" to still have hope but correctly notice that nothing is changing and the debt is just increasing. So instead of ridiculing why not welcome the attention and try to fully convert someone who seems to be on the right path?
This is a time where people should ignore their impulses, stfu and listen to a valuable opinion.

speciallyblend
08-10-2010, 01:18 AM
what. an. idiot.

actually the gop really is the idiot!! he just has no reason to vote republican(i can't blame him) the real idiot is the gop for not nominating Ron Paul in 2008 and possibly electing obama again if the gop doesn't run Ron paul 2012!!!! blame the gop not the obama voter!!!!

speciallyblend
08-10-2010, 01:21 AM
That's not surprising. I know multiple people who have favorable views of Ron Paul, are disappointed in Obama, and yet still can't bring themselves to completely stop supporting Obama. Many Obama voters really thought Obama would be a "peace president" and just wouldn't believe me when I tried to explain from Obama's rhetoric and record that he was for expanding the war in Afghanistan, wasn't committed to ending the war in Iraq and supported warrantless wiretapping and other abuses of the constitution.

That said, this is good news. To win in 2012 we need to win over disgruntled Obama voters. Many of these people only supported Obama because they mistakenly thought he would end the wars and restore civil liberties. While some Obama supporters are committed socialists, those who only voted for Obama because he fooled them into thinking he would end the Bush abuses are possibly up for grabs.

the bottom line is they do not want to support the gop as it is! they feel like their is no other option! these are folks that would vote for Ron paul in a heartbeat but no other republican has their trust nor should they! it is called gop credibility 0! Ron Paul 2012

Akus
08-10-2010, 02:01 AM
Another person was just some air-headed bimbo who i work with. When i asked why she liked Ron Paul she responded "Oh, He's the cute old man. The rest of them were bad, but he was cute."


Hey we can't be picky, if she voted for RP because he's "cute", I say go for it.

speciallyblend
08-10-2010, 06:25 AM
Hey we can't be picky, if she voted for RP because he's "cute", I say go for it.

Ron Paul 2012, Cause he is sexy;)

BuddyRey
08-10-2010, 08:30 AM
These are the normal feelings of a confused person, don't just laugh and call the person an idiot. The person says they are "trying" to still have hope but correctly notice that nothing is changing and the debt is just increasing. So instead of ridiculing why not welcome the attention and try to fully convert someone who seems to be on the right path?

This!

qh4dotcom
08-10-2010, 10:48 PM
I sent that Obama voter a message on Facebook. He replied back, here's what he had to say



Yes, I did vote for Obama. The Republicans didn't have anything better to offer and no one else stood a chance. I am an independent and I voted for the best candidate at the time and wouldn't trade him for McCain today. So, No I havn't "screwed up". Pesonally it seems to me that the ones who have screwed up are all those who voted Republican since Reagan. Compared to the long term damage and money borowing Reaganomics has done... Obama is a saint! If you truly want to point blame your going to have to go a lot higher than me... start with the Republican party George W Bush, Dick Chenney, The Federal Reserve, Wall Street, and big banks.

And please don't be one of those people who only wants to blame the president when theirs an entire House and Senate full of greedy, dishonest, and incompetant people to blame as well... any chance you voted for one of them? Hmm.. your not a traitor are you? Or have you always voted for loosers?

Obama maight not be doing a good job of getting us out of these problems, but he sure as hell didn't creat them.
Also, I'm quite sure George Carlin would agree that all politicians are dishonest so all you can do is choose the best one at the time.

In my defense, I didn't know a whole lot about Ron Paul 2 years ago.
And Hey! At least I voted for the winner!

low preference guy
08-10-2010, 10:50 PM
And Hey! At least I voted for the winner!

this is the right moment to post your best facepalm image

speciallyblend
08-10-2010, 11:37 PM
budpalm? sigh

oyarde
08-11-2010, 03:22 PM
ya know, I was thinking the other day that it did not really matter who we voted for (mccain v. obama). The only real difference would have been that mccain would have voted down the health care bill (probably). Gitmo would still be the same, the wars would still be basically the same, the bailout would have been the same (mccain supported bailouts), the debt would still probably be the same, Bernake would still be the Fed head. If we don't get a Paul candidate next election, then what is the point?

No , the debt would be less.There would have been no health care bill or stimulus similar to those signed , so , yes ,a couple trillion less in economic damage, otherwise , the same.Well.... he would likely be securing the border in Arizona with troops right now.