Tea party beating war drums on FB

[tropicangela]

This thread is making me :mad:. Anyone who is up for a debate, come on over. It's about the TIME mag cover, Afghan Women under Taliban threat.

http://www.facebook.com/teapartypatriots

[tropicangela]

some talking points - http://www.unitedliberty.org/articles/5240-how-to-defend-non-interventionist-foreign-policy

[JCF]

"Stories like that make me feel like we should be fighting a war on Islam and spreading not only democracy but Christianity as well. There is no excuse for treating women that way. "

[dannno]

"Stories like that make me feel like we should be fighting a war on Islam and spreading not only democracy but Christianity as well. There is no excuse for treating women that way. "

Oh for crying out loud, the husband did it, not Islam.. not to mention there is equally if not worse stuff that they used to do to people in the Bible.

[pcosmar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials
http://hnn.us/articles/1796.html

Ammo,,use with discretion.

[TC95]

"...The only way the U.S. can continue to protect them and fight for them is to completely take over their country and kick butt in a big way, but I don't think we want to do that."

Yeah, I don't think we want to do that either. We don't even have the money to do that even if we had any business doing that.

"And 'so called Americans' say we shouldn't get involved in their business!! They NEED our help, ask for it and THAT is what America does!!"

"So-called Americans". Nice. Did I mention that us so-called Americans are broke? I guess some people think wars are free. I guess it probably seems that way when you sit home in your air conditioning while others are dying. I wonder how many of these warmongers will volunteer to go to fight Iran or will they just expect others to go spill their blood?

These people make me sick. Tea party "patriots" my foot. :mad:

[tropicangela]

9/11 just came up.

[paulpwns]

I am doing my part on that thread!

[dannno]

9/11 just came up.

Here comes a history lesson about our foreign policy that neocons seem to get really bored by for some reason :rolleyes:

[tropicangela]

how am i doing?

[paulitics]

Didn't our CIA give them the textbooks for radicalizing Islam? From what I know, only certain radical sects still condone these atrocious acts, and we were building them up during the 80s. I realize sharia law may be authoritarian, but this occurance here is whay more complex than "Islam is evil".

I'm so sick of TIME magazine and their bullshit half truths, and the people's predictable respone of "oh, we must do something"...which usually ends up with bombing innocent people.

[tropicangela]

seems like when i say something it takes a while for them to respond.

[dannno]

Didn't our CIA give them the textbooks for radicalizing Islam? From what I know, only certain radical sects still condone these atrocious acts, and we were building them up during the 80s. I realize sharia law may be authoritarian, but this occurance here is whay more complex than "Islam is evil".

I'm so sick of TIME magazine and their bullshit half truths, and the people's predictable respone of "oh, we must do something"...which usually ends up with bombing innocent people.


YES:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A5339-2002Mar22?language=printer




From U.S., the ABC's of Jihad
Violent Soviet-Era Textbooks Complicate Afghan Education Efforts

By Joe Stephens and David B. Ottaway
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 23, 2002; Page A01

In the twilight of the Cold War, the United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings, part of covert attempts to spur resistance to the Soviet occupation.

The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system's core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books, though the radical movement scratched out human faces in keeping with its strict fundamentalist code.

As Afghan schools reopen today, the United States is back in the business of providing schoolbooks. But now it is wrestling with the unintended consequences of its successful strategy of stirring Islamic fervor to fight communism. What seemed like a good idea in the context of the Cold War is being criticized by humanitarian workers as a crude tool that steeped a generation in violence.


More:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A5339-2002Mar22?language=printer

[belian78]

omg this michael prizo is nauseating. i would 'like' their page to help you out, i just cant bring myself to be associated with that mess, even for just long enough to debate in that thread.

but i'd say you are doing as well as you could, given what you are being given to work with.

[tropicangela]

omg this michael prizo is nauseating. i would 'like' their page to help you out, i just cant bring myself to be associated with that mess, even for just long enough to debate in that thread.

but i'd say you are doing as well as you could, given what you are being given to work with.

thanks. yes, this michael guy is something else.

[angelatc]

Where is the thread?

[belian78]

seems like everytime a hard core 'kill the terrists' type brings up 9-11 inevitably they have family and friends that were lost in the buildings. it's like their go to move to end conversation. when in reality that should be a clarion call for them to wake up and realize the motivation behind it all and seek out the true way to reduce our threat of attack from radicals.

but no.. it's just what they wave to justify creating a whole new generation to get frothed at the mouth over.

[tropicangela]

Where is the thread?

http://www.facebook.com/teapartypatriots#!/posted.php?id=93228695778&share_id=145610352123556&comments=1#s145610352123556

[tropicangela]

seems like everytime a hard core 'kill the terrists' type brings up 9-11 inevitably they have family and friends that were lost in the buildings. it's like their go to move to end conversation. when in reality that should be a clarion call for them to wake up and realize the motivation behind it all and seek out the true way to reduce our threat of attack from radicals.

but no.. it's just what they wave to justify creating a whole new generation to get frothed at the mouth over.

yea, i'm not with them, so i'm with the terr'ists.

[paulitics]

YES:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A5339-2002Mar22?language=printer






More:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A5339-2002Mar22?language=printer


It's pretty sick that intelligence agencies (probably more than CIA) control their education system, and for decades. And of course, along with that their media.

Slighlty OT, but this is why, when regime change in Iran is policy of the U.S, you can be sure intelligence agencies are already well entrenched there doing the same sort of stuff.

[TC95]

seems like when i say something it takes a while for them to respond.

They probably have to e-mail Sarah Palin to ask what she thinks they should say.

[Anti Federalist]

Ugh, that was disappointing.

[tropicangela]

two ppl i asked won't answer why they think we were attacked on 9/11.

[paulitics]

two ppl i asked won't answer why they think we were attacked on 9/11.

Bring up the textbooks we gave them that taught them this stuff. That destroys any moral argument they may have. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A5339-2002Mar22?language=printer

[angelatc]

http://www.facebook.com/teapartypatriots#!/posted.php?id=93228695778&share_id=145610352123556&comments=1#s145610352123556

Got it. I lol'd at "dumby Angela."

[tropicangela]

Got it. I lol'd at "dumby Angela."

me too!

[ItsTime]

some more ammo

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&client=hp&tbs=nws%3A1&q=man+beats+wife&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=e9086256e869e14f

[angelatc]

This is fun. Thanks for the heads up.

[ScotTX]

Sickening stuff over there. Makes me wanna disassociate from the Tea Party, but then the neo-cons AND the terrorists win.

[TC95]

Sickening stuff over there. Makes me wanna disassociate from the Tea Party, but then the neo-cons AND the terrorists win.

They are not the Tea Party. They just think they are. They are the fake, co-opted Tea Party. We know where it really started. They're fools.

[Philhelm]

Well, I figured I may as well join the fray.

[tropicangela]

wow angelatc you were on a roll.

[TortoiseDream]

This thread is making me :mad:. Anyone who is up for a debate, come on over. It's about the TIME mag cover, Afghan Women under Taliban threat.

http://www.facebook.com/teapartypatriots

I am utterly speechless after reading some of that. It almost makes me feel like I'm living in a country filled with barbarians.

"...just drop a bomb on their [the M.E.] ASS and get it over with."

How can any sane person say something like that, among other things?

[tropicangela]

"support the troops"

"I am not a feminist" ~ Mike Armstrong :D

[Anti Federalist]

I am utterly speechless after reading some of that. It almost makes me feel like I'm living in a country filled with barbarians.

"...just drop a bomb on their [the M.E.] ASS and get it over with."

How can any sane person say something like that, among other things?

They have become what they claim to hate.

[malkusm]

I threw a couple comments up. I'm in no mood or mindset to get into a debate, but maybe someone will learn something from my input....

[Disconsolate]

And 'so called Americans' say we shouldn't get involved in their business!! They NEED our help, ask for it and THAT is what America does!!
^lol

[djdellisanti4]

Maybe there is no hope for this nation...

[angelatc]

I threw a couple comments up. I'm in no mood or mindset to get into a debate, but maybe someone will learn something from my input....

It's like shooting skeet. There's nothing really to be gained, but it helps to keep the skills sharp.

[angelatc]

"support the troops"

"I am not a feminist" ~ Mike Armstrong :D

Yes, that seemed to strike a chord, didn't it? I wonder if he realizes that he's now qualified to be a member of Code Pink?

[Hallamaat]

how am i doing?


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I'm about halfway into the thread, but I'll try to contribute something this afternoon if I have the time. I have a Finnish last name though, complete with an 'ä' in it, so I'll probably just get dismissed as being one of them thar Muslim-loving, Anti-American, liberal Europeans or something.

Check out this gem:

I am having a hard time to even start to comprehend, how one human being can cut off his wife's ears and nose while being held down by her brother -in-law and they call us the infidel..America if you don't want this to happen here in the USA you better wake up our politicians in Whashington want to pass the Shaharia law...The Muslim are about to take over this country therefore we would be subject to there laws!!!!

Just... Wow. I don't know whether to laugh in hysterics, be angry, sad, or disappointed to know that anyone actually believes this.

[angelatc]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/gfx_RedWhiteBlue/icons/icon14.gif

I'm about halfway into the thread, but I'll try to contribute something this afternoon if I have the time. I have a Finnish last name though, complete with an 'ä' in it, so I'll probably just get dismissed as being one of them thar Muslim-loving, Anti-American, liberal Europeans or something.

Check out this gem:
Just... Wow. I don't know whether to laugh in hysterics, be angry, sad, or disappointed to know that anyone actually believes this.

You'd be disappointed to know how many people actually believe this.

[michaelwise]

Dress up some of those Afghan children slaughtered by US troops in their best Sunday go to church digs and put that on the front cover. That shit they put on the front cover of Time moves me to more war, zilch.

[Humanae Libertas]

The current Tea Party is being pushed by RepubliCONs like Sara Failin, Sean Insannity, and Rush Drugbaugh, so of course their Neo-Con influence was going to spread and take over the Tea Party.

[tropicangela]

i might have just caused some of their heads to explode.

[angelatc]

I can't stay out of that.