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charrob
08-02-2010, 09:06 AM
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Congress Could End Obama’s Wars
by Ron Paul

August 1, 2010

Our foreign policy was in the spotlight last week, which is exactly where it should be. Almost two years ago, many voters elected someone they thought would lead us to a more peaceful, rational coexistence with other countries. However, while attention has been focused on the administration’s disastrous economic policies, its equally disastrous foreign policies have exacerbated our problems overseas.

Especially in times of economic crises we cannot afford to ignore costly foreign policy mistakes. That’s why it’s important that U.S. foreign policy receive some much-needed attention in the media, as it did last week with the leaked documents scandal. Many are saying that the Wikileaks documents tell us nothing new. In some ways that is true. Most Americans knew that we have been fighting losing battles; these documents show just how bad it really is. The revelation that Pakistani intelligence is assisting the people we are bombing in Afghanistan shows the quality of friends we are making with our foreign policy.

This kind of thing supports points that Rep. Dennis Kucinich and I tried to make on the House floor last week with a privileged resolution that would have directed the administration to remove troops from Pakistan pursuant to the War Powers Resolution. We are not at war with Pakistan. Congress has made no declaration of war. Actually, we made no declaration of war on Afghanistan or Iraq either, but that is another matter. Yet we have troops in Pakistan engaging in hostile activities, conducting drone attacks and killing people. We sometimes manage to kill someone who has been identified as an enemy, yet we also kill about ten civilians for every one of those. Pakistani civilians are angered by this, yet their leadership is mollified by our billions in bribe money. We just passed an appropriations bill that will send another $7.5 billion to Pakistan. One wonders how much of this money will end up helping the Taliban.

This whole operation is clearly counterproductive, inappropriate, immoral, and every American who values the rule of law should be outraged. Yet these activities are being done so quietly that most Americans as well as most members of the House don’t even know about them.

We should follow constitutional protocol when going to war. It’s there for a reason. If we are legitimately attacked it is the job of the Congress to declare war. We then fight the war, win it and come home. War should be efficient, decisive and rare. However, when Congress shirks its duty and just gives the administration whatever it wants with no real oversight or meaningful debate, wars are never-ending, wasteful and political.

Our so-called wars have been become a perpetual drain on our economy and liberty. The founders knew that heads of state are far too eager to engage in those very conflicts. That is why they entrusted the power to go to war with the deliberative body closest to the people: the Congress. Decisions to go to war need to be supported by the people. Wars should not be covert or casual. We absolutely should not be paying off leaders of a country while killing their civilians, without expecting to create a lot of new problems. This is not what America is supposed to be about.


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cooker263
08-02-2010, 09:34 AM
If things really start to escalate in Pakistan and the neighboring occupations, along with a stagnant or declining economy, Ron Paul really has a great chance to wake even more people up and maybe even have a good shot in 2012. The more people realize the economy is not improving, they're not going to trust Obama. However, even the pro-war people may start to realize we can't afford it anymore and we need to start taking care of our own affairs.

TheeJoeGlass
08-02-2010, 10:03 AM
If things really start to escalate in Pakistan and the neighboring occupations, along with a stagnant or declining economy, Ron Paul really has a great chance to wake even more people up and maybe even have a good shot in 2012. The more people realize the economy is not improving, they're not going to trust Obama. However, even the pro-war people may start to realize we can't afford it anymore and we need to start taking care of our own affairs.

Romney is the Republican candidate as he has the base behind him. I want Ron To run as an indy.

thehunter
08-02-2010, 10:09 AM
Romney's coronation is not a sure thing by any stretch. Let's remember that the Christian Right will never feel comfortable with a Mormon president and will not easily campaign for one. The economic conservatives will also not feel that Romney is sufficiently conservative enough (because he isn't), and as soon as one of the other candidate (eg. Palin) makes hay of the fact that Romney passed a health care bill almost identical to Obamacare in Massachusetts, the political edge that Romney currently has will fade away faster than you can say "taxi"!

johnrocks
08-02-2010, 10:17 AM
Good read and tube....Thanks!

bobbyw24
08-02-2010, 10:47 AM
Bump

djdellisanti4
08-02-2010, 11:39 AM
"War should be efficient, decisive and rare."
Great quote IMHO.

Zippyjuan
08-02-2010, 11:48 AM
"War should be efficient, decisive and rare."
Great quote IMHO.

I think Bush Jr thought the Iraqi war would be quick, decisive, and cheap since the first Gulf war was. We are certainly paying (and paying, and paying) for that mistake. I don't remember the exact words or who said them but I prefer the quote that wars should be messy and costly- that way we don't want to fight too many of them. Quick and decisive (and in turn lower cost) encourages more activities.

charrob
08-02-2010, 07:03 PM
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Aratus
08-03-2010, 12:09 PM
MY MID-AFTERNOON rEVOLUTIOn BUMP!