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Vessol
07-31-2010, 12:58 AM
YouTube - Food: The Ultimate Secret Exposed - PT 1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSpkLk0vYmk)
YouTube - Food: The Ultimate Secret Exposed - PT 2/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B9MeO3SRxU)

/sigh, I wish I had the money to eat organic. Or even have organic options in the tiny town I live in..

BenIsForRon
07-31-2010, 01:23 AM
/sigh, I wish I had the money to eat organic. Or even have organic options in the tiny town I live in..

No farmer's market?

Mike4Freedom
07-31-2010, 01:58 AM
I buy organic foods. I dont eat grains/dairy/refined sugars or starches and man do I feel good. It's pricy because of all the chicken and fresh produce and sometimes I want to just go back to the regular grocery store to save money. Thanks for showing me this video, it is stuff I already know but videos like this help keep me modivated to continue to put good things in my body.

qwerty
07-31-2010, 02:02 AM
This is great!!!!! :)

qwerty
07-31-2010, 02:06 AM
I buy organic foods. I dont eat grains/dairy/refined sugars or starches and man do I feel good. It's pricy because of all the chicken and fresh produce and sometimes I want to just go back to the regular grocery store to save money. Thanks for showing me this video, it is stuff I already know but videos like this help keep me modivated to continue to put good things in my body.

Itīs pretty simple!

REAL FOODS are just IT not anything else! There are NO addictives in REAL FOOD! Natural food!

libertarian4321
07-31-2010, 04:38 AM
I think the hysteria about processed foods is overblown.

Personally, I'm a huge fan of the "Soylent" family of foods. Just love a little soylent green with a glass of white wine on a Friday night.

tangent4ronpaul
07-31-2010, 06:00 AM
/sigh, I wish I had the money to eat organic. Or even have organic options in the tiny town I live in..

You can and it will cost you less. start a garden and join a food co-op

also buy in bulk

-t

thomas-in-ky
07-31-2010, 07:34 AM
Buy locally grown food. Take the organic label with a grain of salt. The "o" word has already been co-opted by mega-con-agri-business.

tangent4ronpaul
07-31-2010, 08:48 AM
Buy locally grown food. Take the organic label with a grain of salt. The "o" word has already been co-opted by mega-con-agri-business.

Yeah - that is a joke... they passed laws and regs so "organic" isn't and real organic foods can't get an organic label. Total doublethink.

organic food should be less expensive than the processed crap, but it's now thrown into a specialty category so you pay megabucks for the illusion of eating healthier.

go figure...

-t

Mike4Freedom
07-31-2010, 10:53 AM
Yeah - that is a joke... they passed laws and regs so "organic" isn't and real organic foods can't get an organic label. Total doublethink.

organic food should be less expensive than the processed crap, but it's now thrown into a specialty category so you pay megabucks for the illusion of eating healthier.

go figure...

-t

This concerns me. Can you go more into this please. What regs have they passed that mage organic not real organic?

YumYum
07-31-2010, 11:17 AM
I avoid some foods that are kitniyot. I prefer foods that have a hechsher; you can't lose by eating organic kosher foods. I love Passover Coca-Cola which is made with cane sugar and not corn syrup.

pcosmar
07-31-2010, 11:39 AM
I thank God for giving me the stomach of a goat and a highly Chemically Resistant system.
I eat and thrive on anything.
:D
:cool:

osan
07-31-2010, 11:57 AM
YouTube - Food: The Ultimate Secret Exposed - PT 1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSpkLk0vYmk)
YouTube - Food: The Ultimate Secret Exposed - PT 2/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B9MeO3SRxU)

/sigh, I wish I had the money to eat organic. Or even have organic options in the tiny town I live in..

Can you not establish your own garden? It can be done even in an apartment. Window boxes for herbs, planters for things such as tomatoes. If you really want clean food, you can have it. Meat is a bit more problematic, of course.

If you have 500 square feet of yard to dedicate, you could have more food than you would know what to do with, and I am dead serious. If you can, build an inexpensive greenhouse and you can feed yourself all year. Learn how to can foods. I make wickedly tasty black and blue jam. The apricot jam my grandma made was SO intensely flavorful that you could not eat more than a few spoonfuls of it. Nothing but apricots and sugar with some aspirin as a preservative. Food should not be a problem for most people if they are willing to put in the time. Most appear not to be as witnessed by the bustling business at the major food markets.

osan
07-31-2010, 11:59 AM
Buy locally grown food. Take the organic label with a grain of salt. The "o" word has already been co-opted by mega-con-agri-business.

+1 to that. "Organic" can mean absolutely NOTHING.

osan
07-31-2010, 12:06 PM
This concerns me. Can you go more into this please. What regs have they passed that mage organic not real organic?

I don't recall the precise details, so you may have to do some research, but suffice it to say the the term "organic" has become legal jargon and the meaning largely separated from the intuitive notion most people appear to associate with it. It has become a huge con job - just another scam. There are real "organic" foods, of course, but it has become far and away more difficult to determine which are and which are the SOS with a new label plastered on it. All I can tell you is that you ought not trust the "organic" label blindly. This, of course, can make the task of supplying yourself with wholesome foods a whole lot more challenging. That these bastards would fuck with our food is sufficient cause to overthrow them and publicly burn the corpses. This is outright warfare in the strongest tradition of Sun Tzu. Believe it.

t0rnado
07-31-2010, 12:19 PM
Start a garden in your backyard or just get some pots and start growing. Make your own compost and buy some heirloom seeds.

Zippyjuan
07-31-2010, 12:38 PM
So let me get this straight- Alex is saying that the food and water are being deliberately altered to cause sterility and reduce the populaition and make people sick. This has been going on for 80 years now according to the intro (haven't bothered to watch the whole thing). Ok. Perhaps that is why people have been living longer over the past 80 years and the population has been growing- nearly tripling over the past 80 years. If the scary story is true, can he explain these simple numbers? But I guess that would get in the way of his story telling.

heavenlyboy34
07-31-2010, 12:53 PM
So let me get this straight- Alex is saying that the food and water are being deliberately altered to cause sterility and reduce the populaition and make people sick. This has been going on for 80 years now according to the intro (haven't bothered to watch the whole thing). Ok. Perhaps that is why people have been living longer over the past 80 years and the population has been growing- nearly tripling over the past 80 years. If the scary story is true, can he explain these simple numbers? But I guess that would get in the way of his story telling.

I'm not an expert, but I do know that domestication tends to lead to longer lifespans. (IOW, average humans tend to be "pets" for the State) This could be the answer to your question. :o

sratiug
07-31-2010, 12:54 PM
So let me get this straight- Alex is saying that the food and water are being deliberately altered to cause sterility and reduce the populaition and make people sick. This has been going on for 80 years now according to the intro (haven't bothered to watch the whole thing). Ok. Perhaps that is why people have been living longer over the past 80 years and the population has been growing- nearly tripling over the past 80 years. If the scary story is true, can he explain these simple numbers? But I guess that would get in the way of his story telling.

Do you not believe that Hitler's eugenics program was started in the US and England by the same people that brought us the CFR and the relentless march towarrd a world socialist government?

Can you explain away the massive destruction and death caused by marjorine, the FDA, and the food pyramid?

thomas-in-ky
07-31-2010, 02:33 PM
This concerns me. Can you go more into this please. What regs have they passed that mage organic not real organic?

It's actually a matter of integrity and trust. Do you trust the organic apple juice from Turkey, certified by "Organics International," (which is certified by the government) or do you trust the local orchard?

A few quotes from Joel Salatin's book, "Everything I Want to Do Is Illegal."


"I'll take the integrity and transparency of local any day over government-certified organic. For the life of me I can't figure out how a whole movement predicated on the notion that the government food system was corrupt beyond salvage allowed itself to get hijacked by the government as the repository of high quality food protocols. This is schizophrenic reasoning at its worst."

"An outfit with 10,000 chickens crammed in a house who never see the light of day or set foot on a pasture can certify them as organic. But mine that receive a fresh salad bar of pasture every day and really do taste different than industrial fare can't be certified because I'd rather use my neighbor's corn than ship it in from out of state."

"As it is, a 3,000 cow confinement dairy in the middle of a desert can be certified organic, but my family cow on pasture can't be unless I spend days filling out forms, pay money to an agency, and submit to bureaucrats tromping over the farm. And the pasture must have been chemical free for three years."


In short, the word "organic" is owned by the government now. Use the word on a label or a sign or a brochure (without permission), and you'll have a cadre of food police descending upon your farm shortly. Big companies (ones with influence in the government, ones with the resources to deal with the paperwork and fees, and heaven-forbid, ones big enough to buy off inspectors) are using the "o" word to edge out the remaining small farms that are the true purveyors of genuine food.

fwiw, I raise cattle on pasture here in KY. A few years ago, I looked into the certification process for organic and decided it wasn't worth the hassle. The market premium was only 5% and it's hard for me to imagine anyone playing by the rules for a 5% premium. (It's impossible to find local hay that was grown without nitrogen being used on the field in the last 3 years) Instead, I disclose my farm-protocols directly to my customers (no hormones, no antibiotics, no herbicides, no chemicals on slaughter animals, etc.), and my farm and animals are open for inspection 365/24/7. I can use every word but the "o" word to describe my operation... until the government decides to own another word. :rolleyes:

Vessol
07-31-2010, 02:47 PM
No farmer's market?

You can and it will cost you less. start a garden and join a food co-op

also buy in bulk
-t

There's a few farmers stands within a few miles from here. They're a long drive though and they only have a few fruits and vegetables for sale.

I live in what amounts to the ghetto of our tiny town. No backyard. I'm not too worried though because my mother has a good garden and I get some fresh produce from it, not much varity though. No food co-op here.

I wish I could buy in bulk, but I'm incredibly short on money, barely eating enough as is. I don't say this for pity or anything, just saying.

To add a bit more substance to this topic. I had a discussion with my GF's father and I said that if a store wants to sell unpasteurized milk as long at it is labeled I'd see nothing wrong with it, he hotly disagreed and gave some vague answer about people should not have the right to buy dangerous products, that's why drugs are illegal.