Where would you move?

[Elwar]

If we get stuck with the same type of government over the next few years and the people prove that they want to be slaves in the US, which country would you choose to move to?

[Fredom101]

Hong Kong is a little more free than the U.S. but it's got major problems too. There are no really good options at the moment, unfortunately.

[fisharmor]

No geographical monopoly on violence respects the right to self defense to the extent that some of the states in the US do.

Talk like this makes me realize the importance of the FSP. When you say "Some Island" my immediate thought is "If only we could pool resources and make it a big one", and then I realize that this effort is already underway, minus the tropical storms.

[specsaregood]

then I realize that this effort is already underway, minus the tropical storms.

plus the snow storms.

[KAYA]

The countries I've been considering are New Zealand, Australia, Costa Rica, Panama, Canada and France. Yes, France.

I understand New Zealand is ranked 3rd as for economic freedom, behind Hong Kong and Singapore. Its a stable country, beautiful landscape, they speak English and I would imagine the culture would be relatively similar to what I am used to here in the US, relatively. Pretty much the same goes for Australia. The cons are that these countries are literally half a world away from the family and friend I would leave behind in the US.

Costa Rica, I have spent time in this country, I have friends there, it too has beautiful scenery, beaches, rain-forest, friendly people. Culture and language is different but not a big deal. The cons would be that the market would not likely be as free as I'd like. There are some stability concerns with a dictator like Chavez promoting communism, poor and potentially unstable countries in the region (in general). I fear the potential spread of communism along with the proximity to drug cartels could dim the future of this region, but I really don't know. Pretty much the same goes for Panama, except there are more Americans living there.

As for Canada, I would specifically choose Quebec or Nova Scotia. The reason is because of my heritage which is French Acadian. My ancestors left France for Acadia (now Nova Scotia) but where deported by the British and came to settle South Louisiana, we are now known as Cajuns. It be nice to plug into that. The problems would be Canada has many of the socialized programs I don't want but by the time the socialist in the US get what they want Canada could be an attractive option. But being born an raised in South Louisiana, I don't know if I could take the cold weather.

As for France, I would choose to live in Southern France. It would be a connection with my heritage the language my family has spoken all the way up to my generation. I have a friend who is from and lives in the region to help me get settled. We both love and play cajun music. I know enough French to get around. It would be a dream. BUT France is the poster child for Euro-stye socialism. So it would be one of those if you can't beat'em join them type of moves. If the US which is trying so hard to become a Euro-style socialist country becomes such, then I might as well move to a country that has been working at it for years and where the people seem to enjoy it.

[Anti Federalist]

The trouble is, many of the places that would be good choices, (my personal favorite is Switzerland) or New Zealand or even Hong Kong, all realize how good they have it, making emigration there about as difficult as seeing god.

They control their borders and make it a point not to be overwhelmed by statist hordes that will ruin them.

[messana]

I'm half Canadian so I might as well.

I'm just worried that when the SHTF, that those dirty Americans will all flock up north and take our jobs.

[Meatwasp]

I'm half Canadian so I might as well.

I'm just worried that when the SHTF, that those dirty Americans will all flock up north and take our jobs.

Sarcasm?

[John Taylor]

The countries I've been considering are New Zealand, Australia, Costa Rica, Panama, Canada and France. Yes, France.

I understand New Zealand is ranked 3rd as for economic freedom, behind Hong Kong and Singapore. Its a stable country, beautiful landscape, they speak English and I would imagine the culture would be relatively similar to what I am used to here in the US, relatively. Pretty much the same goes for Australia. The cons are that these countries are literally half a world away from the family and friend I would leave behind in the US.

Costa Rica, I have spent time in this country, I have friends there, it too has beautiful scenery, beaches, rain-forest, friendly people. Culture and language is different but not a big deal. The cons would be that the market would not likely be as free as I'd like. There are some stability concerns with a dictator like Chavez promoting communism, poor and potentially unstable countries in the region (in general). I fear the potential spread of communism along with the proximity to drug cartels could dim the future of this region, but I really don't know. Pretty much the same goes for Panama, except there are more Americans living there.

As for Canada, I would specifically choose Quebec or Nova Scotia. The reason is because of my heritage which is French Acadian. My ancestors left France for Acadia (now Nova Scotia) but where deported by the British and came to settle South Louisiana, we are now known as Cajuns. It be nice to plug into that. The problems would be Canada has many of the socialized programs I don't want but by the time the socialist in the US get what they want Canada could be an attractive option. But being born an raised in South Louisiana, I don't know if I could take the cold weather.

As for France, I would choose to live in Southern France. It would be a connection with my heritage the language my family has spoken all the way up to my generation. I have a friend who is from and lives in the region to help me get settled. We both love and play cajun music. I know enough French to get around. It would be a dream. BUT France is the poster child for Euro-stye socialism. So it would be one of those if you can't beat'em join them type of moves. If the US which is trying so hard to become a Euro-style socialist country becomes such, then I might as well move to a country that has been working at it for years and where the people seem to enjoy it.

How old are you? 19?

[Anti Federalist]

How old are you? 19?

What's that got to do with it?

That seemed a reasonable and well thought out mulling of ideas and priorities to make a move.

[JamesButabi]

If my business wasn't solidified and centralized in RI, I would be in NH already. Ive seen enough of the progress and been to the main events for a few years consecutively now. The FSP is the best solution for liberty loving people left in the US.

[Arion45]

New Hampshire!

[RM918]

Somewhere in East Asia, don't know where. Just didn't like any of the places on the list. Maybe somewhere else, too. My ideas aren't exactly very set. Hate cities, though.

[Philhelm]

I'm going down with the ship.

[Liberty4life]

Takes a whole day to get there on a boat, once a month about.
Around 400 native population, two villages.
Paradise


http://wikimapia.org/#lat=-18.4382093&lon=-178.475647&z=13&l=0&m=b

[Anti Federalist]

I'm going down with the ship.

That ^^^

This is my country, my family has been here for 15 generations.

I'm not going anywhere.

[Liberty4life]

one line of thought is that were actually safer here in the belly..

[Liberty4life]

In december Oneata is having a reunion and there are lots of people from all over the world going, this is your chance to see a real island paradise, its cheap.
White sand beaches on every shore.
If after christmas you never hear from me again, don't wonder where I went.

[Kludge]

Unless there´s a bloody civil war between Tea Partiers & the USG + loyalists that kills off 80% of the population, I´ll be hiding out in the US where the gov´t won´t find me.

[JeNNiF00F00]

Switzerland is top on my list.

[Meatwasp]

That ^^^

This is my country, my family has been here for 15 generations.

I'm not going anywhere.

You tell'em Brave Heart

[KAYA]

How old are you? 19?

31, why do you ask?

[Old Ducker]

If we just end up suffering a major depression and things work out for me, I'll buy some waterfront property on the Puget Sound in Skagit County. If it gets worse than that, a farm perhaps in Idaho or SE Ohio where I have a support network of long time friends. Either way I'll put in a reverse Archimedes Screw to generate 3 phase power and a stationary wood gas generator, the gas from which is compressed for bottles to run various internal combustion engines. I'm sure there are plenty of like minded people who would be glad to help out and do useful stuff in exchange for a place to live. I wouldnt even mind creating a community so I could build a small cannery, brewery/winery and a dairy/cheese/yogurt plant.

[ChaosControl]

Most everywhere else is worse. There isn't anywhere to move. America is sort of the last line of defense. Once it is gone, the game is over.

[FreeTraveler]

The best thing to do is to drop out right here. Learn a trade so you're not dependent on some faceless corporation for your income. Develop a network for barter, work for cash where possible, pay cash for as much as you can. You're not only keeping your current location and building a local community, you're preparing those around you for the coming crash and starving the beast to boot.

Mechanics, carpenters, plumbers, dentists, nurses will always have someone willing to make sure they eat in exchange for some assistance with their problem. Farmers, ranchers and hunters have a primary source of barter. ETA: And OldDucker mentions canning, brewing, and dairy as other good primary occupations.

Break the mindset that life is what they sell on TV. It doesn't have to be anything like that.

I'm more free now, personally, than I've ever been.