Filmmaker Oliver Stone: Nationalize the Oil Industry!

[FrankRep]

Update: DRUDGE REPORT

Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in Context'...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/alana-goodman/2010/07/25/oliver-stone-jewish-dominated-media-prevents-hitler-being-portrayed-c#ixzz=




Oliver Stone: US should nationalize oil resources (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100720/ap_on_en_mo/eu_oliver_stone_bp_4)


Associated Press
July 20, 2010


LONDON – The Gulf of Mexico oil spill shows that the United States should follow the example of South American socialists in nationalizing its energy industry, filmmaker Oliver Stone said Tuesday.

The Academy Award-winning director of "Born on the Fourth of July" and "JFK" said that America's country's natural wealth was too important to be left in private hands, telling journalists in central London that oil and other natural resources "belong to the people."

"This BP oil spill is typical" of what happens when private industry is allowed to draw revenue on what should be a public good, Stone said.

"We shouldn't make this kind of profit on oil or on health or on war or on prisons. All these industries should be public industries."

Stone, 63, is in the British capital to promote his documentary, "South of the Border," which tells the story of firebrand Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and his left-wing Latin American allies.

The 75-minute film is meant to draw attention to the social improvements ushered in by Chavez, who has nationalized parts of Venezuela's economy, including important bits of the oil sector and big chunks of the banking, electric and steel industries. Bolivian leader Evo Morales, also interviewed by Stone for the documentary, has similarly expanded the state's control over the country's energy infrastructure.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100720/ap_on_en_mo/eu_oliver_stone_bp_4

[FrankRep]

Flashback:


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Author, screenwriter and commentator Andrew Klavan spoke with CNSNews.com on Monday about conservatives coming out of the closet in Hollywood to create entertainment that reflects traditional American values.



Screenwriter Says Hollywood Conservatives ‘Have to Meet in Secret’ and ‘Talk in Whispers’ (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/64745)


CNS News
April 26, 2010


Screenwriter and author Andrew Klavan said that in Hollywood, “(i)f you’re a conservative, especially a religious person, people have to meet in secret. They talk in whispers. It’s a very disturbing kind of culture.”

Klavan, in an exclusive interview with CNSNews.com, explained that he and fellow conservatives in Hollywood are battling the liberal status quo by creating entertainment that reflects the values held by the majority of Americans.

And things are changing for the better, he said, pointing to the best-picture Oscar nomination for the Christian-themed film “The Blind Side” and Sandra Bullock’s win as best actress in the movie.


Video:
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There is a political/social shift occurring in Hollywood, Klavan told CNSNews.com, adding, “I think we’re changing it. It’s not something that’s happening passively. It’s something that’s happening because people are really making noise.”

“I have nothing against atheists or left-wingers making movies,” Klavan said. “I think everybody should be able to make movies. I simply think this kind of lock-step conformity that has become the default position of American intellectuals has to go. It’s bad for the arts. It’s bad for our intellectual conversation.”

The Hollywood culture, Klavan said, has made it difficult for conservatives to be successful and promote their own brand of entertainment product.

“There’s a culture in Hollywood where you are a left-winger; you can speak very openly – even in business meetings,” Klavan said. “If you’re a conservative, especially a religious person, people have to meet in secret. They talk in whispers. It’s a very disturbing kind of culture.”

Klavan also mentioned the experience of Academy Award-winning actor Denzel Washington’s experience in making the movie, “The Book of Eli (http://bit.ly/b4MQ0),” which is about a post-apocalyptic world where the hero’s mission is to protect the last remaining Bible.

“When Denzel Washington recently made a film called ‘The Book of Eli’ – and Washington is a Christian and he made a film about a post-apocalyptic world in which he’s fighting to save the Bible, fighting to save the last copy of the Bible – the studio kept coming to him and saying, ‘Could you cut out some of the references to the Bible? Could you cut out some of the religious references?’” said Klavan.

“And I thought, ‘Why, are you afraid of making too much money? What’s the problem?” he said.

Klavan explained, as is well-documented, that many of the traditional, pro-family, and pro-religious movies are usually very financially successful in Hollywood. But many producers and directors do not like to make the films regardless of their potential for success.

Klavan said in his own career he has tried to “change the rules” by creating compelling books and films that feature characters who share the same beliefs and values of most Americans.

Two of his crime novels, "True Crime" and "Don’t Say a Word" were made into films starring Clint Eastwood and Michael Douglas, respectively. His screenplays include “Shock to the System” starring Michael Caine, and “One Missed Call.”

And now his series of books for young adults, "The Homelanders," has been optioned by Summit Entertainment, maker of the “Twilight” film series and the film that won the 2010 Oscar for best picture, “The Hurt Locker.”

The hero of the series, teenager Charlie West, is a Christian and an American patriot with a black belt in karate whose adventures include fighting Islamic extremists and trying to clear his name after he’s charged with murder.

Klavan was in Washington, D.C., on Monday, to speak at a conference about intellectual property rights as it pertains to artists whose work is stolen online.

But the real threat, as Klavan sees it, is the Democrats who are in control in the White House and Congress.

“I think it’s a really very sinister and bad development,” Klavan said when asked about current events in the nation’s capital. “I don’t think the people involved are necessarily sinister and bad, but I think they are misguided.”

“They believe in a philosophy that has already been shown to be destructive and not to work,” Klavan said. “They are people who don’t understand the basic values of our country, the basic values of a bottom-up government, of the consent of the governed, of limited government, of a government who doesn’t do things for you -- that says you have to do these things for yourself.”

Klavan also said he is a fan of the tea party movement, which he said is made up of regular Americans who want limited government and support the Constitution.


SOURCE:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/64745

[FrankRep]

Hollywood Party: How Communism Seduced the American Film Industry in the 1930s and 1940s (http://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Party-Communism-American-Industry/dp/0761521666/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279485815&sr=1-1)

- Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley, 1998

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Communism in Hollywood: The Moral Paradoxes of Testimony, Silence, and Betrayal (http://www.amazon.com/Communism-Hollywood-Paradoxes-Testimony-Betrayal/dp/0810869489/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279486328&sr=1-2)

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[james1906]

"This BP oil spill is typical" of what happens when private industry is allowed to draw revenue on what should be a public good, Stone said.

"We shouldn't make this kind of profit on oil or on health or on war or on prisons. All these industries should be public industries."



Yes Ollie, private industry can fuck up big time, but what happens when the energy sector is a public industry?

CHER-FUCKING-NOBYL!

[t0rnado]

Saddam Hussein nationalized Iraq's oil industry as well. Look at how safe and successful Iraq is today!

[FrankRep]

DRUDGE REPORT

Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in Context'...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/alana-goodman/2010/07/25/oliver-stone-jewish-dominated-media-prevents-hitler-being-portrayed-c#ixzz=

[specsaregood]

Interesting that he doesn't think his own industry should be nationalized.

[00_Pete]

Maybe this little turd could tell us how his POS movie, JFK, left out the most important things about Kennedy...or his POS "Nixon" for that matter.

God willing, if the NWO is defeated, little turds like Stone will end up living their collectivist Utopia inside a labour camp...after being paraded on TV just like thousands of his fellow "artists".

[angelatc]

We need to have an oil industry before we can nationalize it.

[jmdrake]

Saddam Hussein nationalized Iraq's oil industry as well. Look at how safe and successful Iraq is today!

Well to be fair there's Iraq's problems have far more to do with U.S. invasions than nationalized oil. Unless the argument is the nationalization of the oil caused the invasions.

That said, this is a dumb move. Someone already mentioned Chernobyl. Closer to home we have the TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority) coal ash spill.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/27/us/27sludge.html

[acptulsa]

Too late. The oil industry already privatized the government. Privatized it right into their hip pocket, in fact.

[WaltM]

Is it hypocritical to want oil private, but banking nationalized?

[WaltM]

Too late. The oil industry already privatized the government. Privatized it right into their hip pocket, in fact.

yep!

which is why it amazes me why people complain about corporatism not knowing it's the simple result of capitalism, free market, choice, and greed (which nobody denies they have)

[awake]

yep!

which is why it amazes me why people complain about corporatism not knowing it's the simple result of capitalism, free market, choice, and greed (which nobody denies they have)

Corporatism is caused by capitalism? What a blatant contradictory statement.

Walt, what are you doing here on this forum? If you believe capitalism and socialism are both evil, and propose a midway existence between both as some sort of lasting solution, can you not see the impossibility of your position?

As for the corporations running the government; You ignore the most important element. It is a joint partnership, with government being the senior partner. They are looters in arms for which the 'evil corporations' seem only to take the blame.

Convenient.

[WaltM]

Corporatism is caused by capitalism? What a blatant contradictory statement.


No it isn't.

Nobody likes competition AGAINST THEM, so when they can, they use their freedom to protect themselves.

You protect yourselves from robbery, theft and assault, THAT is what corporations do, they see competition as a violation of their rights (and you want to deny them of their right to protect themselves)



Walt, what are you doing here on this forum? If you believe capitalism and socialism are both evil, and propose a midway existence between both as some sort of lasting solution, can you not see the impossibility of your position?


I don't see them as both evil.

I don't propose a midway, at least not in every aspect.

Who cares if I can see the impossibility of my position, what's the impossibility in YOUR position? I can point to a few countries that are more ideal than the one I live in, you can only say your imaginary land is better than everybody here today.



As for the corporations running the government; You ignore the most important element. It is a joint partnership, with government being the senior partner. They are looters in arms for which the 'evil corporations' seem only to take the blame.

Convenient.

You are right, and I don't forgive the government.

[awake]

No it isn't.

Nobody likes competition AGAINST THEM, so when they can, they use their freedom to protect themselves.

You protect yourselves from robbery, theft and assault, THAT is what corporations do, they see competition as a violation of their rights (and you want to deny them of their right to protect themselves)



So is a carpenter, who does well in his community, upon seeing another competing carpenter enter the community, justified in calling on the police to have him thrown out of town? Is he justified in attacking the other carpenters person or possessions? With out the police power the first carpenter is simply engaging in criminal acts..

Is it right for both carpenters to jockey for the right to use the police power against the other through paying off the police power?

The point is that the government should have stayed out of the equation all together and should have protected both carpenters and their property from each other. Equality before the law. But since the monopoly aspect of government 'services' allows a safe perch from which no competition can exist. The corporations are seeking the perch that the government has...that is the problem. The solution is to boot both birds off the pedestal by adopting full free markets in all goods and services.

This is the failure of government, not capitalism.

[awake]

Back on point; Why does Oliver not recommend nationalization of his own industry if that is such a good idea?

[00_Pete]

Back on point; Why does Oliver not recommend nationalization of his own industry if that is such a good idea?

His industry is already nationalized...

YouTube - Dave Chappelle-What's Wrong With Hollywood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHpsiSSNapQ)

Hell is the nation and Satan is the ruler.

[pcosmar]

Nationalized Oil ??

Wasn't that the excuse for overthrowing Mosedek in 1953?

Wow, talk about full circle.
:(

[osan]

yep!

which is why it amazes me why people complain about corporatism not knowing it's the simple result of capitalism, free market, choice, and greed (which nobody denies they have)

What an impossibly flawed assertion.

"Corporatism" is the soft-peddle term for fascism. Fascism is the result of mobsters assuming the functions of "government" by way of the leverage their corporate positions afford them. It has NOTHING to do with capitalism, per se, and is demonstrably unrelated to free markets because there are no free markets. What some people have been calling the "free market" is actually a rigged market, thanks to government gone awry in the pockets of the large power brokers, who are most often occupying powerful positions in the world's most powerful corporations. Voila! Fascism! This is why I routinely edumacate people by pointing out that free market capitalism has NEVER existed in the USA, though we have been far closer to it in the 18th and earlier 19th centuries than we have been since.

Calling the current markets "free" does not make them so, just as calling a contstipated old Dutchman a Kimodo Dragon doesn't make him one. That so many people take the extant markets as "free" simply because that label is glued to them only serves to underscore just how pathetically ignorant or otherwise mal-educated they are. Government interference is not a feature of a free market. The ONLY legitimate roles government holds in the free market is to enforce contracts and address criminal activity - IOW to ensure human rights are not violated through fraud and other means. Clearly this is not the situation, what with the literally millions of laws on the books that ostensibly seek to impose "fairness" and honesty in an effort to ensure a "level playing field" for everyone. This is, of course, a total fiction.

One of the truer effects of all this law is to place greater power in the hands of the few players at the tops of the manifold market pyramids in order to quash competition, which renders those markets anything but free for the other participants. This is all readily observable to anyone willing to pop their head out of their backside and conduct a minimally capable functional analysis of how things actually work, dispensing with the political rhetoric and claims behind the legal mechanisms responsible for what we observe.

My recommendation to you and everyone else holding such wholly erroneous notions about the state of national and global economics is to get yourself a better education and stop buying into the propaganda about "free market capitalism". It is, as I already stated, a fiction. How can you or anyone else make statements of fact about a thing that has never existed here? Hello?!

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

Oliver Stone is a coke head and an idiot.

[nate895]

Oliver Stone is a coke head and an idiot.

I know smarter coke heads.