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Bradley in DC
10-15-2007, 03:21 PM
Ok, fine, I don't have any more numbers than all of you yet, but I wanted to get your attention pre-emptively to urge us to be magnamous--we were poor and unknown once too. ;)

EDIT: Updated/corrected (pilfered shamelessly from the thread):

16,480,569.91 Rudy Giuliani
6,443,312.25 Fred Thompson
5,300,000.00 Ron Paul
3,600,000.00 John McCain
603,490.52 Mike Huckabee
-8,133,482.64 Mitt Romney

My original post:
Here are my educated guess/confirmed numbers for primary cash on hand minus debt for people:

Rudy $12m
Paul $5.3 m
Fred $2.9 m
Huck $651k
Mitt $500k
Tancredo $400k
Brownback
Hunter
Keyes

ItsTime
10-15-2007, 03:23 PM
and I bet we are out raising most right now too. This is great news.

kylejack
10-15-2007, 03:24 PM
Ok, fine, I don't have any more numbers than all of you yet, but I wanted to get your attention pre-emptively to urge us to be magnamous--we were poor and unknown once too. ;)

Here are my educated guess/confirmed numbers for primary cash on hand minus debt for people:

Rudy $12m
Paul $5.3 m
Fred $2.9 m
Huck $651k
Mitt $500k
Tancredo $400k
Brownback
Hunter
Keyes

Your Fred money is incorrect. He's in the 6 millions.

Bradley in DC
10-15-2007, 03:25 PM
Yup, nearly $900k on the Statue-o'Liberty-o-meter in two weeks. :)

Bradley in DC
10-15-2007, 03:26 PM
Your Fred money is incorrect. He's in the 6 millions.

Is that primary only money cash on hand minus debt?

kylejack
10-15-2007, 03:27 PM
Is that primary only money cash on hand minus debt?

That bit was a myth. The "Primary 2008" figure we had was just money raised for the primary in Q3. It didn't include the money he raised in June. So you still have to take his real cash on hand number and subtract debt. He apparently hasn't raised any yet for the general election.

Adamsa
10-15-2007, 04:00 PM
Is Ron building up for some kind of advertising orgy or something?

ronpaulyourmom
10-15-2007, 04:01 PM
Ok, fine, I don't have any more numbers than all of you yet, but I wanted to get your attention pre-emptively to urge us to be magnamous--we were poor and unknown once too. ;)

Here are my educated guess/confirmed numbers for primary cash on hand minus debt for people:

Rudy $12m
Paul $5.3 m
Fred $2.9 m
Huck $651k
Mitt $500k
Tancredo $400k
Brownback
Hunter
Keyes

Okay please please get Fred's numbers right. He has over 6 million in cash on hand. The other guy was reading the report wrong.

ItsTime
10-15-2007, 04:02 PM
He just bought over 400k worth of radio ads. Mostly in NH I think. Thats a lot of ads.


Is Ron building up for some kind of advertising orgy or something?

ronpaulyourmom
10-15-2007, 04:03 PM
He just bought over 400k worth of radio ads. Mostly in NH I think. Thats a lot of ads.

This guy blogged that he heard it about 5 times in one day, so I think that means yes. :)

http://greenmountainpolitics1.blogspot.com/2007/10/ron-paul-is-up-on-radio-in-new.html

Jimmy
10-15-2007, 04:04 PM
Is Ron building up for some kind of advertising orgy or something?

Thats kinda what I'm wondering

risiusj
10-15-2007, 04:04 PM
He just bought over 400k worth of radio ads. Mostly in NH I think. Thats a lot of ads.

Iowa too.

plopolp
10-15-2007, 04:14 PM
Ron Paul gets more for his money. He raises them much cheaper and he hasn't got expensive consultants telling him what his standpoints should be. For example, on Rudy's youtube site there is a video where they show off his camera team truck filled with equipment and a large generator following him around where they produce and transmitt videos of him. Pretty unnecessary both to pay for and to show off! Is that video supposed to impress some gadget crazy supporters or something?

Neocon campaigning is probably much about political career parasites getting an opportunity to pocket some of the campaign money spent. They aren't so strong on ideals as the the dedicated Ron Paul staff.

richard1984
10-15-2007, 04:27 PM
When will we know all of these numbers for sure?

steph3n
10-15-2007, 04:31 PM
today is the deadline, not much longer.

Maybe we know why HQ isn't answering the emails and calls so much getting all these filings done :)

Ninja Homer
10-15-2007, 04:33 PM
Ok, fine, I don't have any more numbers than all of you yet, but I wanted to get your attention pre-emptively to urge us to be magnamous--we were poor and unknown once too. ;)

Here are my educated guess/confirmed numbers for primary cash on hand minus debt for people:

Rudy $12m
Paul $5.3 m
Fred $2.9 m
Huck $651k
Mitt $500k
Tancredo $400k
Brownback
Hunter
Keyes

McCain?

steph3n
10-15-2007, 04:34 PM
McCain?

with that private yet they are flying around in, maybe negatives :D

richard1984
10-15-2007, 04:34 PM
today is the deadline, not much longer.

Maybe we know why HQ isn't answering the emails and calls so much getting all these filings done :)

So that's all we know?
Man, I'm pretty excited. Not only will we be top-tier as far as cash-on-hand is concerned, but we're also the only ones going up--everyone else is really on their way out.
Things are looking better by the day. :D

kylejack
10-15-2007, 04:35 PM
McCain?

Rudy
Fred
Paul
McCain
Huckabee
Mitt
Brownback
Tancredo
Hunter
Keyes

Marshall
10-15-2007, 04:35 PM
Alan Keys Plan: Run for President to Pay Your Debts! (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/016124.html)

NinjaPirate
10-15-2007, 04:37 PM
Yup, nearly $900k on the Statue-o'Liberty-o-meter in two weeks. :)

It's supposed to be above $2mil right now. =/

mwkaufman
10-15-2007, 04:45 PM
Three of the top tier candidates' numbers are up, italicized means estimates:

16,480,569.91 Rudy Giuliani
6,443,312.25 Fred Thompson
5,300,000.00 Ron Paul
3,600,000.00 John McCain
603,490.52 Mike Huckabee
-8,133,482.64 Mitt Romney

steph3n
10-15-2007, 04:53 PM
wow Romney's numbers are in, is he in DEBT that much with the debt???

10. Cash on Hand at CLOSE of the Reporting Period 9,216,517.36
11. Debts and Obligations Owed TO the Committee 0.00
Itemize all on SCHEDULE C or SCHEDULE D
12. Debts and Obligations Owed BY the Committee 17,350,000.00

Bradley in DC
10-15-2007, 04:57 PM
lent his campaign $17.4 million so far

raised $18.4 m

spent $21.3 m

has $9.2 m cash (less than debt)

quickmike
10-15-2007, 05:44 PM
McCain?

Well, remember how McCain said he would follow Bin Laden to the gates of hell? He wasnt kidding. Problem is he blew his whole wad on gas money filling up the Hummer to get there.

csen
10-15-2007, 06:10 PM
That Giuliani number is way too high:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aRVgCv_OFbx8

Giuliani, 63, reported $16.6 million in the bank as of Sept. 30. He had $11 million to spend in the run-up to the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary, according to his campaign. The remaining funds can only be spent if Giuliani wins the Republican nomination and doesn't accept federal funds for the general election. He had $169,256 in debts.