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Zippyjuan
07-22-2010, 02:52 PM
http://my.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20100722/857b4536-e26d-4826-b1a4-9b7f00f81b97

Some Internet porn sites in China now accessible

FILE - In this Jan 23, 2008 file photo, a computer user is silhouetted with a row of computer monitors at an Internet cafe in Shenyang, in northern China's Liaoning province. Word leaked out slowly, spread by tech-savvy folks on Twitter: Internet porn is now openly available in China. Is the new access to online pornography a policy change or a trap? It throws into sharp relief what many see as the main mission of China's aggressive Internet censorship: blocking content that might challenge the political authority of the communist government.ANITA CHANG
From Associated Press
July 22, 2010 4:04 PM EDT
BEIJING (AP) — Word leaked out slowly, spread by Web-savvy folks on Twitter: Internet porn that once was blocked by Chinese government censors was now openly available.

"Are they no longer cracking down on pornographic websites? A lot of porn sites and forums are accessible," technology blogger William Long wrote on his feed.

Messages like that startled Chinese Web surfers, long accustomed to the authorities' Internet blockades. The country had been in the midst of highly publicized anti-pornography sweeps, and there had been no announcement of any change in government policy.

Yet eight weeks later, the porn sites are still accessible. Still unanswered are questions about whether it's an official change in policy, a technical glitch or some sort of test by the usually disapproving Chinese Internet police.

"This has never been done with the (Chinese) Internet before," said Beijing-based Internet analyst Zhao Jing, who goes by the English name Michael Anti.

Whatever the reason, the change has thrown into sharper relief what many people see as the main mission of China's aggressive Internet censors: blocking sites and content that might challenge the political authority of the communist government. Websites about human rights and dissidents are also routinely banned.

"Maybe they are thinking that if Internet users have some porn to look at, then they won't pay so much attention to political matters," Anti said.

The government has not said why the porn sites were unblocked. Repeated calls to the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology went unanswered, and the Ministry of Public Security and State Council Information Office — all involved in Web monitoring — did not respond to faxed requests for comment.

China has the world's largest online population of 420 million — more than the entire U.S. population. While the Internet is the most freewheeling of tightly cosseted media in China, the government has the most extensive Internet policing system, from technical filters that block sites based on certain words to human monitors who scan bulletin boards and micro-blogging posts.

Censorship issues led Google Inc. to clash publicly with China earlier this year and eventually close its China search engine and redirect users to Hong Kong.

Tired of the controls, many Chinese have learned to get around "the Great Firewall," or GFW, as the system is known.

Few Chinese will admit to surfing for porn because it is illegal. Many sites are still inaccessible, and of those, sites that somehow evade control are usually blocked within hours. But the demand is there.

"The more they restrict something, the more people pay attention," said a 29-year-old employee at a state-owned logistics company who did not want to be identified because he surfs for porn on business trips.

Sites that suddenly became available around late May include the English-language YouPorn and PornHub, along with numerous Chinese sites offering downloads, though Anti and others say well-known Chinese-language sites remain blocked.

Wen Yunchao, a popular blogger who writes about social issues and the Internet under the name Beifeng, said even more porn sites have become available in recent days, including a well-known Chinese site called "Xingba," or "Sex Bar."

"In the past, the GFW would use pornography as an excuse" for censorship, Wen said. "Now they're not even trying to cover it up."

Chinese society's conservative attitudes about sex are rapidly changing, especially among the young, who make up the majority of Internet users. The trial and conviction this year in southern China of a college professor who used the Internet to organize orgies touched off a debate about privacy and sexual freedom.



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jmdrake
07-22-2010, 03:05 PM
LOL. Pro democracy types need to start hiding messages in Chinese porn.

Vessol
07-22-2010, 03:32 PM
This reminds me of Chinese gray markets. They ban tons of goods, but government is so inept of course they can't keep the stuff out so there is a verifiable large underground free market in China, larger than any other market and free of regulation like in America.

John Taylor
07-22-2010, 03:35 PM
And everyone said............... AMEN!

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jmdrake
07-22-2010, 03:48 PM
I just thought of another reason why the Chinese relented on this. It gives Chinese hackers less of an incentive to find holes in the "great firewall of China". Think about it. Porn is like visual crack. Lots of young men in China who could care less about things like "freedom" and "democracy" have probably been assaulting the "great wall" just to go after the "forbidden fruit". How many are going to go through all of that trouble just to see some YouTube of what really happened at Tienamen Square? But those interested in spreading democracy could use the tools forged by the porn addicts.

Matt Collins
07-22-2010, 07:40 PM
Bread and circuses.

silus
07-22-2010, 08:47 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44720000/gif/_44720929_china_cheer.gif

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Marenco
07-22-2010, 08:51 PM
"Maybe they are thinking that if Internet users have some porn to look at, then they won't pay so much attention to political matters," Anti said.

It will probably work.

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djdellisanti4
07-22-2010, 08:52 PM
Maybe watching porn will keep their population in check. Just another thought. A great day for liberty though.

dannno
07-22-2010, 09:06 PM
I just thought of another reason why the Chinese relented on this. It gives Chinese hackers less of an incentive to find holes in the "great firewall of China". Think about it. Porn is like visual crack. Lots of young men in China who could care less about things like "freedom" and "democracy" have probably been assaulting the "great wall" just to go after the "forbidden fruit". How many are going to go through all of that trouble just to see some YouTube of what really happened at Tienamen Square? But those interested in spreading democracy could use the tools forged by the porn addicts.

This seems like the best answer, hard to say though.

james1906
07-22-2010, 09:13 PM
In related news, thousands of Chinese men applied at a new pizza place to work deliveries.

MikeStanart
07-22-2010, 09:33 PM
In related news, thousands of Chinese men applied at a new pizza place to work deliveries.

Hah! Took me a minute to catch on to that.

"Oh sorry mr. delivery man, I just ran out of cash, surely there's another way I can repay you"

Matt Collins
07-22-2010, 09:49 PM
Hah! Took me a minute to catch on to that.

"Oh sorry mr. delivery man, I just ran out of cash, surely there's another way I can repay you"
I know a guy who used to deliver pizza in college and he would run into that all the time. His response was "well, ya gotta give me something" :p


Think about it. Porn is like visual crack.
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