Wash Post Exposes Huge Secret Gov't World Created in Repsonse to 9/11 Terror Attacks

[bobbyw24]

Posted at 1:53 AM, 7/19/2010
A hidden world, growing beyond control

The top-secret world the government created in response to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs, how many programs exist within it or exactly how many agencies do the same work.

These are some of the findings of a two-year investigation by The Washington Post that discovered what amounts to an alternative geography of the United States, a Top Secret America hidden from public view and lacking in thorough oversight. After nine years of unprecedented spending and growth, the result is that the system put in place to keep the United States safe is so massive that its effectiveness is impossible to determine.

The investigation's other findings include:

* Some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States.

* An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances.

* In Washington and the surrounding area, 33 building complexes for top-secret intelligence work are under construction or have been built since September 2001. Together they occupy the equivalent of almost three Pentagons or 22 U.S. Capitol buildings - about 17 million square feet of space.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/a-hidden-world-growing-beyond-control/

[specsaregood]

So basically we already got our "new deal" program.

[Anti Federalist]

Wow, what a surprise.

Silence, conspiracy theorist.

[Peace&Freedom]

Despite the establishment's best attempts to stop it, with the FOIA and other disclosures government held info was becoming more accessible and making the state more transparent by the end of the '90's. Something had to be done to both reverse the trend and re-legitimize all the secrecy. Right on cue, here comes "terror attacks" and the new wars of the last decade. So in response to an estimated 60,000 people in Al Qaeda around the world, tops, we build a secrecy and security grid for over 300 million Americans. Almost makes one think the whole thing was orchestra----but hush, move along, nothing to see here.

[Anti Federalist]

Despite the establishment's best attempts to stop it, with the FOIA and other disclosures government held info was becoming more accessible and making the state more transparent by the end of the '90's. Something had to be done to both reverse the trend and re-legitimize all the secrecy. Right on cue, here comes "terror attacks" and the new wars of the last decade. So in response to an estimated 60,000 people in Al Qaeda around the world, tops, we build a secrecy and security grid for over 300 million Americans. Almost makes one think the whole thing was orchestra----but hush, move along, nothing to see here.

Silence, mundane.

Your glorious leaders are doing everything they can to keep your sorry ass safe.

And you have the temerity to question their motives?

The gall to think there may be nefarious ulterior motives, hidden from public view?

You're not well comrade, I think you need non-voluntary committal and therapy for your own good.

[Elwar]

Having worked in this industry I see nothing profound in this article.

The government spends a shitload on defense contracting companies. The good ol' boy buddy system gets some people rich at the American taxpayer's expense. Same as always, whether it's an industry built around bombers or fighter jets or whatever. This time it just happens to be the intel community.

[YumYum]

Why would the Washington Post leak this out?:confused:

[bobbyw24]

Why would the Washington Post leak this out?:confused:

I have no idea. That's why I posted it.

I am not a 9/11 Truther at all but this was interesting.

[Elwar]

Why would the Washington Post leak this out?:confused:

Nothing has been leaked. It appears to all be from public information.

The title is misleading.

It would be like having an article about a small town after several years of having a Boeing contract having the local paper say "New world created in response to B2 Bomber" as it lists all of the new buildings that went up around town and how many people have gotten rich off of it.

[Political Terror]

My two cents for what it's worth.....

Countries are becoming more like different divisions of one giant corporation.

China will be the manufacturer country of the world.

The United States will be the security and military/intelligence.

Europe will remain the financial center.

Russia will be in control most most of the energy sector.

India will be the biggest consumer market in the future as well as China.

It will be much easier to manage the world if each country has more of a defined role in that world.

Just a theory not a conspiracy;)

[IPSecure]

The entire federal government has been ordered by the President to cut costs by getting rid of "unneeded federal real estate."

Sounds great in theory, but there's one catch. No one seems to be sure exactly how much land and property the federal government owns.

Link (http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=15&sid=2002437)

[Seraphim]

My two cents for what it's worth.....

Countries are becoming more like different divisions of one giant corporation.

China will be the manufacturer country of the world.

The United States will be the security and military/intelligence.

Europe will remain the financial center.

Russia will be in control most most of the energy sector.

India will be the biggest consumer market in the future as well as China.

It will be much easier to manage the world if each country has more of a defined role in that world.

Just a theory not a conspiracy;)

You are right. I was telling a couple of friends last year that countries are no longer soverign nations. They are BRANCHES of a global financial hierachy. They looked at me funny, laughed a little and said I was wrong. Unfortunately for them objective reality and data is on my side :D

[JeNNiF00F00]

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[tjeffersonsghost]

Look at this description I just read on another site about why the buildup is happening..


There is a good explanation why and we need to back our government on this one. Our nation has been infiltrated by Israeli spies. The government including Bush and Cheney knew immediately after 9/11 but couldnt do anything because of the power of the Israeli lobby.

The mass buildup within our nation is to fight back in this big spy war we are having. The Wiki Leaks story that will be coming out will spell it all out. The nation will be in shock and try to blame Obama when it comes out who was really behind 9/11 and the massive intelligence build up after words but Obama is actually on our side.

He has such strong supporters of Israel in his cabinet because you "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer". The shit is going to hit the fan, and soon.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1137320/pg1


If something like this is the truth then do we need to rethink our stance on this? Even if it isnt Israel but (insert country here). Hmmm thought provoking..

[Reason]

YouTube - Top Secret America (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gymZuaOlr0Y)

[TNforPaul45]

Only some moon bat like Alex jones or a reporter would think this stuff is true. Everyone knows that these infrastructure additions are just a conspiracy theory, gaw.

The government would never expand secret domestic intelligence activities and threaten our liberties through the use of our own bribed and brainwashed countryman. Everyone knows this.

The Washington post doesn't even exist either. Stop being such moon bats and get out there and campaign for Romney/Huckabee 2012. Gaw. Moonbats.









Lol

[Pericles]

Stats don't always tell the story - for example in the Army, almost every officer Major and above has a TS clearance.

[Reason]

YouTube - Top Secret America (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gymZuaOlr0Y)

See the map...
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/map/

Explore Connections...
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/network/#/overall/most-activity/

Read the Stories...
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/



A Washington Post Investigation (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/)

The top-secret world the government created in response to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs, how many programs exist within it or exactly how many agencies do the same work.

These are some of the findings of a two-year investigation by The Washington Post that discovered what amounts to an alternative geography of the United States, a Top Secret America hidden from public view and lacking in thorough oversight. After nine years of unprecedented spending and growth, the result is that the system put in place to keep the United States safe is so massive that its effectiveness is impossible to determine.

The investigation's other findings include:

* Some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States.

* An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances.

* In Washington and the surrounding area, 33 building complexes for top-secret intelligence work are under construction or have been built since September 2001. Together they occupy the equivalent of almost three Pentagons or 22 U.S. Capitol buildings - about 17 million square feet of space.

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[bobbyw24]

Intelligence community heightens security measures following Washington Post ‘Top Secret America’ story

By Jon Ward - The Daily Caller | Published: 9:47 AM 07/19/2010 | Updated: 3:10 PM 07/19/2010





The Office of the Director of National Intelligence sent a memo late last week to contractors warning them about the Washington Post’s article on the growth of top-secret agencies and contracting activity.

The undated, unsigned memo, which was leaked to numerous media outlets, including The Daily Caller, framed the Post piece as a national security threat.

“Foreign intelligence services, terrorist organizations and criminal elements will have potential interest in this kind of information. It is important that companies review their overall counterintelligence posture to ensure that it is appropriate,” read the memo, which was addressed simply from the ODNI’s Mission Support Center (read the full memo here).

“Specifically, we recommend that companies affected by this publication and website assess and take steps to mitigate risk to their workforce, facility and mission, to the extent consistent with your contractual relationship with ODNI. These steps should include re-enforcement of security and counterintelligence protections and steps to enhance workforce awareness,” it said.

The element of the Post project that likely prompted ODNI’s concerns is the searchable database in which readers can find all companies that do intelligence-related work for the government. However, the database is limited. It does not include exact company locations or addresses. Similarly, a map of the country that shows locations where intelligence work is performed does not include precise, Google Earth-type detail.

A more detailed memo from Art House, the head of ODNI’s communications, was obtained late last week by the Atlantic’s Marc Ambinder. House told agency officials that “the Post advises that ‘links’ between individual contractors and specific agencies have been deleted, although the Post will still cite contractors and their locations.”

However, the Post database does not lay out where companies are located beyond a city or town. In some cases, there is a discrepancy between where a company is listed as being located and where its own website says its offices are.

For example, HBGary Federal is a 25-employee company established in 2005. It is listed as being located in Columbia, Md. But its website says it is in Bethesda, Md. It could be a clue that the company does work for the National Security Agency, which is located in Columbia. In fact, an HBGary spokesperson contacted The Daily Caller and said the company was previously located in Columbia but is now in Bethesda, as is indicated on their website.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/19/intelligence-community-heightens-security-measures-following-washington-post-top-secret-america-story/

[stu2002]

intelligence community heightens security measures following washington post ‘top secret america’ story

the office of the director of national intelligence sent a memo late last week to contractors warning them about the washington post’s article on the growth of top-secret agencies and contracting activity.

The undated, unsigned memo, which was leaked to numerous media outlets, including the daily caller, framed the post piece as a national security threat.

“foreign intelligence services, terrorist organizations and criminal elements will have potential interest in this kind of information. It is important that companies review their overall counterintelligence posture to ensure that it is appropriate,” read the memo, which was addressed simply from the odni’s mission support center (read the full memo here).

“specifically, we recommend that companies affected by this publication and website assess and take steps to mitigate risk to their workforce, facility and mission, to the extent consistent with your contractual relationship with odni. These steps should include re-enforcement of security and counterintelligence protections and steps to enhance workforce awareness,” it said.

The element of the post project that likely prompted odni’s concerns is the searchable database in which readers can find all companies that do intelligence-related work for the government. However, the database is limited. It does not include exact company locations or addresses. Similarly, a map of the country that shows locations where intelligence work is performed does not include precise, google earth-type detail.

A more detailed memo from art house, the head of odni’s communications, was obtained late last week by the atlantic’s marc ambinder. House told agency officials that “the post advises that ‘links’ between individual contractors and specific agencies have been deleted, although the post will still cite contractors and their locations.”

however, the post database does not lay out where companies are located beyond a city or town. In some cases, there is a discrepancy between where a company is listed as being located and where its own website says its offices are.

For example, hbgary federal is a 25-employee company established in 2005. It is listed as being located in columbia, md. But its website says it is in bethesda, md. It could be a clue that the company does work for the national security agency, which is located in columbia. In fact, an hbgary spokesperson contacted the daily caller and said the company was previously located in columbia but is now in bethesda, as is indicated on their website.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/19/intelligence-community-heightens-security-measures-following-washington-post-top-secret-america-story/

fascinating

[bobbyw24]

Break the Matrix has picked this up

[jmdrake]

I remember right after 9/11 someone asking G. Gordon Liddy about the dangers of the power of the federal government growing as a result. Liddy said "Don't worry about that. It would be a problem, but George W. Bush is against big government". :rolleyes:

[bobbyw24]

G Gordon was the ultimate G Man

[LibForestPaul]

The good stuff is at the compartmental level.

*Knock* *knock*

Hmm, who could that be?

[tangent4ronpaul]

Consider:

~60,000 Al Queda "terrorists" worldwide

3,202 agencies, organizations and companies "fighting" them, each with between 25 and hundreds of thousands of employees. That's one agency, organization or company for every 19 "terrorists".

50.000 intelligence reports produced per year. That's roughly one per "terrorist". per year.

17 Million sq ft of NEW (since 9/11) floor space devoted to intelligence. Just in the DC area. That's 283 sq ft of floor space per "terrorist". It also represents 2-3 employees per "terrorist" on top of all the ones that were already there.

854,000 Top Secret security clearances means 14.23 clearances per "terrorist". It also means 1.5 - 2% of the US workforce has a TS clearance, and presumably are "fighting terrorism". Didn't East Germany try something like this before? - You know, the STASI...

2 Washington Post Investigative reporters, using only unclassified data are able to map out the entire US Intelligence Community in 2 years.

Clearly, we need to fire the entire IC and replace them with 1,000 Washington Post Investigative Reporters. :rolleyes:

-t

[Liberty Star]

* An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances.



If this is true, it means there is nothing secret anymore.

[RokiLothbard]

I just got out of this business. Man does it feel good to not be a part of the parasitic class anymore.

[Liberty Star]

This is a troubling headline in today's news on the subject:

Huge Fly Swatter, No Flies: Top Secret America's Vast Counterterrorism Machine

http://www.thenation.com/blog/37675/huge-fly-swatter-no-flies-top-secret-americas-vast-counterterrorism-machine

[Liberty Star]

Why would the Washington Post leak this out?:confused:

Because big programs are running out of money? Who knows.

[YumYum]

The entire federal government has been ordered by the President to cut costs by getting rid of "unneeded federal real estate."

Sounds great in theory, but there's one catch. No one seems to be sure exactly how much land and property the federal government owns.

Link (http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=15&sid=2002437)

I never knew this! Thanks for sharing.