Information on Sharon Angle

[paulpwns]

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[klamath]

Most of us know all this about her already. She is not RP for sure but she is a long shot ahead of Reid.

[paulpwns]

So shes basically a run of the mill Republican?

Do you know her position on The U.S. Patriot Act?

[klamath]

So shes basically a run of the mill Republican?

Do you know her position on The U.S. Patriot Act?

She can't be a run of the mill republican and be against the war on drugs and wanting to leave the UN.
I don't know her position on the PA.
Her strongest side seems to be fiscal conservatism much like Rand and Schiff.

[erowe1]

Just spoke with her campaign office.

1. She supports sanctions on rogue Islamic fascist t states.

2. She supports Israel as our strongest U.S ally.

3. She wants to leave the U.N

4. She will do whatever is necessary to stop terrorism

5. They could not answer me when I asked if she supports the Patriot Act.

6. They said she is against the War on Drugs

Some info. Some good, mostly bad.

I will keep trying to dig information from her campaign. If anyone else has info, please post.

Thanks!

#1 is definitely bad. But #s 2 and 4 could be bad, but are also pretty vague. I don't have a problem with saying you want to support Israel, depending on how you want to support them, and in what context.

#s 3 and 6 automatically make her better than a run of the mill Republican by themselves in my book, along with other good positions she holds.

[awake]

Lesser of two evils - still evil.

Option 'C' none of the above.

[DirtMcGirt]

Lesser of two evils - still evil.

Option 'C' none of the above.


We need new crooks; way better than incumbent Harry Reid...

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/sharron-angle-struggles-on-the-national-stage

Democrats can be expected to exploit several of Angle's stands as too extreme for mainstream or independent voters in the November ballot. Among them are her support for phasing out Social Security and Medicare; for repealing the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, which established the federal income tax; and for abolishing the federal Department of Education.

Correction: An earlier version of this post mischaracterized a June 29 TV appearance by Angle. She did not repeat her suggestion from earlier this year that Second Amendment supporters needed to "take Harry Reid out." Rather, as the Associated Press reported, she used the June 29 appearance to clarify: "I meant take him out of office. ... I changed my rhetoric." We regret the error.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/angle-undecided-on-patriot-act-in-04.php

Angle Was 'Undecided' On PATRIOT Act In '04

Finally a reason for liberals to love Sharron Angle?

In a 2004 candidate questionnaire, the Nevada Republican Senate hopeful indicated she was "undecided" on the Patriot Act, the post-9/11 law that expanded the power of police and the government and has long drawn the ire of civil libertarians, according to a copy of the questionnaire obtained by TPM.

Angle, a member of the state assembly up for reelection at the time, answered thirteen questions on the "Nevada Families Voter Guide," which is put out by the Nevada Families/Eagle Forum organization. One question reads:

"The US PATRIOT Act jeopardizes many of our civil liberties but does not make law-abiding citizens safer. Would you support/sponsor a resolution opposing the PATRIOT Act?"

The voter guide lists Angle's answer on the question as "U" for undecided. There is also an asterisk next to the U, indicating that Angle provided comments that could not fit in the guide. Janine Hansen, founder and publisher of the Nevada Families Voter Guide, tells TPM that the records with Angle's expanded comments are "no longer available" because Hansen moved in 2004.

Angle's campaign did not respond to a request for comment on her position on the Patriot Act. Whatever Angle's current position, she has not emphasized civil liberties in her campaign. Neither the current nor primary-season version of her campaign website mentions the Patriot Act or civil liberties.

Perhaps we should not be surprised that Angle is not a full-blown supporter of the Patriot Act. The Independent American Party of Nevada, of which Angle was a member in the 1990s, currently has a platform plank declaring that the law "clearly violate[s] fundamental privacy rights afforded by the constitution and must be repealed."

Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), for his part, voted for the Patriot Act in 2001 and for the Patriot Act reauthorization in 2006.

Also on the 2004 questionnaire: Angle said she supported making campaign spending reports "100% voluntary."

She also answered yes on this question:

"The federal government controls 89% of Nevada's land. Do you support the recovery of Nevada's sovereignty and jurisdiction over the lands within Nevada's borders including Yucca Mountain?"

The questionnaire was provided to TPM by Lee Plotkin, who in 2004 was writing political commentary for the Las Vegas Bugle newspaper.

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"She makes Ron Paul seem like Gerald Ford"...

part about Angle starts at 3:30. Maddow's bashes / makes fun of the JBS in the early part. This vid will probably make you want to vote for / donate to her.

YouTube - Rachel Maddow - Meet Sharon Angle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-2hOMBovOU&feature=related)

-t

[South Park Fan]

She's against the War on Drugs?! That automatically makes her better than Reid in my book.

[low preference guy]

So shes basically a run of the mill Republican?

Really?


3. She wants to leave the U.N
6. They said she is against the War on Drugs

:rolleyes:

If by "shes basically a run of the mill Republican" you mean "she will be the best Senator besides Rand, or at least among the top 5", then I'll agree with you.

[YumYum]

7. She will pay for a doctor's visit with a chicken.

[Ricky201]

She's against the War on Drugs?! That automatically makes her better than Reid in my book.

This is new information to me as well! I understand and respect the "lesser than two evils argument", but we're talking about a republican that is against bailouts, the IRS, the UN, and the War on Drugs. Angle may not be Ron Paul, but she's better than just about every senator we have right now.

[paulpwns]

Yeah she is all talk right now though. She has no record like RP to back her up.
And if she continues our Empire then yes she is just run of the mill.

[HOLLYWOOD]

She's for Free Markets and against government spending and socialism (which is used to buy votes anyway)

She also spent her own money upholding and defending the Nevada State constitution that the transplanted liberal democrats from outta state around Vegas that wanted to shred it.

Monday's July 19th on FOX BUSINESS' "Americas Nightly Scoreboard" Sharon Angle and Michele Bachman will be on. 7PM EST /4PM PST, tune in if you want to hear her.

REID leads ANGLE 44% - 37% 10% undecided
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/16/harry-reid-leads-sharron_n_648939.html

MORE IMPORTANTLY... The Media has started to chime in...

HERE: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-onthemedia-20100717,0,108228.column

THIS PICTURE SAYS IT ALL
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2010-07/54998454.jpg

[low preference guy]

7. She will pay for a doctor's visit with a chicken.

That's Sue Lowden, not Sharron angle.

[james1906]

RP can lecture her.

[klamath]

7. She will pay for a doctor's visit with a chicken.

Get off your democratic talking points. That was Sue Lowden not Sharon Angle.

[ChaosControl]

Didn't know she was against the war on drugs. I find that strange since she supports prohibition. But okay...

[low preference guy]

Didn't know she was against the war on drugs. I find that strange since she supports prohibition. But okay...

I think she was for it but changed her mind. And even if she was for it at the state level, she could be against Federal prohibition for Constitutional reasons.

[klamath]

Yeah she is all talk right now though. She has no record like RP to back her up.
And if she continues our Empire then yes she is just run of the mill.
Of course she is all talk now. That is all we have to go by and RP can't hold every position in congress:rolleyes:
It looks like your attempt to flame her has backfired. You picked out all the bad position she holds and tried to give people on here a dishonest impression. She is right up there with Schiff and Rand.

[YumYum]

Get off your democratic talking points. That was Sue Lowden not Sharon Angle.

I'm sorry, but I can't tell them apart.

[puppetmaster]

Reid on Co are bombarding the airwaves with commercials bordering on slander. then they come in with a positive commercial on Reid...... EVERY COMMERCIAL BREAK.....OVER AND OVER....ugg its going to be a long summer Reid has tons of cash and no ethics

[klamath]

Reid on Co are bombarding the airwaves with commercials bordering on slander. then they come in with a positive commercial on Reid...... EVERY COMMERCIAL BREAK.....OVER AND OVER....ugg its going to be a long summer Reid has tons of cash and no ethics
The democrat senate machine doesn't want the Senate majority leader going down. They will spend a lot. probably more than any other race on this race.

[libertybrewcity]

She is raising a hell of lot of money though. I think she took 2.6 million in this last quarter. She will need a lot to compete with the Reid machine who has something like 6 or 7 million on hand and the capability of raising a lot more.

I think it would be great just get rid of Reid.

[cindy25]

she also wants to phase out social security.

[tangent4ronpaul]

"She makes Ron Paul seem like Gerald Ford"..

post 8 on the first page....

-t

[easycougar]

What's the point of this? Are you trying to dig up dirt? She is a huge ally.

[MichelleHeart]

What's the point of this? Are you trying to dig up dirt? She is a huge ally.

I agree. She was on Freedom Watch, and the Judge seems to approve. She's also one of the only 2010 candidates (alongside Rand Paul and candidate-for-governor Mark Newman of Wisconsin) who supports nullification of unconstitutional federal laws.

[Stary Hickory]

She is better than Reid, and she is against HC legislation and for reducing government and is serious about it. I mean I love how people complain nothing ever changes but when they have a chance to see a SENATOR get in who will really cut government size and scope they don't support the enough.

Reid will not reduce government, he will increase it. He pushed through that monstrous HC Bill, just pushed through a fascist financial bill...what does it take for people to wake up? How much freedom do we have to lose from these clowns until we figure out elect people who will REDUCE government.

For gods sake if Angle win then the next time she is running challenge her in the primaries if you have a even better candidate. But seeing as we have a government filled with vile vermin why go after those who are a VAST improvement?

[Stary Hickory]

I'm sorry, but I can't tell them apart.

Stupidest post in this thread. That is a copout.

[AlexMerced]

I have mixed feelings about angel, but her responses on face to face and freedom watch were actually not that bad, I'd vote for her, but I doubt I'd be an enthusiastic supporter cause she can answer certain things better like shes right on about social security but she doesn't articulate it in a way that shows a deep enough understanding of the issue.

We need candidates who are super smart and quick witted to deal with the critics like a schiff... too bad he lives in CT

[YumYum]

Stupidest post in this thread. That is a copout.

"2. She supports Israel as our strongest U.S ally."

Why don't you admit you are a neocon?

[specsaregood]

I gotta say, by how the media is treating her....she can't be all that bad. And getting Reid out would be awesome.

[low preference guy]

"2. She supports Israel as our strongest U.S ally."

Why don't you admit you are a neocon?

Is Rand Paul also a neocon?

[specsaregood]

"2. She supports Israel as our strongest U.S ally."

Why don't you admit you are a neocon?

Saying Israel is our strongest ally has nothing to do with neoconservatism. Dr. Paul wants to treat Israel like an ally as well. The debate should be how to best treat them as one. I side with Dr. Paul on this one, and that would be treating them like a grown-up.

[YumYum]

Is Rand Paul also a neocon?

Did he say that Israel is our strongest ally? His dad never said that.

[Stary Hickory]

"2. She supports Israel as our strongest U.S ally."

Why don't you admit you are a neocon?

Ok I am going to take you to task real quick, because frankly I am sick of this BS. You make an accusation like this BACK IT UP. When are you going to admit that intellectually you are incapable of making an argument? Is that all you got is baseless accusations of supporting pointless war and supporting harmful alliances and foreign entanglements?

Is that it...can you dig no deeper and come up with anything meaningful that is constructive or helpful for getting people more freedom? Name calling...that is all you have? Freaking sad. Frankly I a not going to justify this drivel with a response.

[low preference guy]

Did he say that Israel is our strongest ally? His dad never said that.

Stary Hickory did't say Israel is our strongest ally.

You're accusing Stary Hickory for saying he wants Angle to win. Who else wants Angle to win?


“I think I will be part of a nucleus with [Sens.] Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who are unafraid to stand up,” Paul said. “If we get another loud voice in there, like Mike Lee from Utah or Sharron Angle from Nevada, there will be a new nucleus.”

So according to you, Stack History is a neocon for wanting Angle to win. Rand Paul also wants Angle to win. Is Rand Paul a neocon?

[specsaregood]

Did he say that Israel is our strongest ally? His dad never said that.

Not exactly, but similar. Here he calls us out for our hypocrisy of calling ourselves an "ally".
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul363.html



Congress and each successive administration pledge their political, financial, and military support for Israel. Yet while we call ourselves a strong ally of the Israeli people, we send billions in foreign aid every year to some Muslim states that many Israelis regard as enemies. From the Israeli point of view, many of the same Islamic nations we fund with our tax dollars want to destroy the Jewish state. Many average Israelis and American Jews see America as hypocritically hedging its bets.

[Stary Hickory]

Did he say that Israel is our strongest ally? His dad never said that.

Ok Yumyum I am tired of you dumb krap, DID I EVER SAY THAT EITHER...honestly. Rand Paul also supports Sharon Angle..so he must be a Neocon, I wonder if Ron Paul would support her...he must be a Neocon, I wonder if Ron Paul has ever supported someone who said Israel was a good ally...there is a good bet he did.

So YumYum the world is filled with Neocons and the only choice is to let big government guide us into bondage. There is no hope in Yumyums world. Everything is the same, there is no difference just empty despair.

No thanks to that please.

[low preference guy]

There is no hope in Yumyums world.

Don't take the guy seriously. His first post in this thread was accusing Sharron of something than Lowden did.

Then he claimed that he can't tell them apart. Right, he shouldn't be able to tell apart someone who stole Ron Paul's win in Nevada and someone who will be an ally of Rand's in the Senate.

Then he calls you a neocon, and implied that you supposedly said that "Israel is our strongest ally". But you never said that.

So you see, from the first to his last post here, it was all unadulterated, 100% pure troll posting. And not even smart trolling. The guy belongs to a mental institution, I wouldn't take him too seriously.

[YumYum]

Saying Israel is our strongest ally has nothing to do with neoconservatism. Dr. Paul wants to treat Israel like an ally as well. The debate should be how to best treat them as one. I side with Dr. Paul on this one, and that would be treating them like a grown-up.

Saying Israel is our strongest ally has everything to do with being a neocon.

Dr. Ron Paul says that we should get along with everyone and encourage free trade. Ron Paul has never said that the government of Israel is our strongest ally. He has never encouraged alliances with countries that would alienate us from the rest of the world. He has said that we should mind our own business. That's hardly claiming that the government of Israel is our strongest ally.

Saying that Israel is our strongest ally is a joke. If they are our ally, why are they taking money and weapons from this country when they know we are bankrupt?

Friends don't do that to friends. Israel is the biggest statist of them all!

Also, what agreement have we signed with them? If we have an agreement, I want to see the treaty that was signed. Have the Israeli soldiers fought along side our soldiers like Britain has done? Why have we shit on Britain, who used to be our strongest ally?

What the fuck has Israel done that makes them our strongest ally? What?!? Can you name one thing?

Friendship is a two way street.

[Stary Hickory]

I mean my philosophy on this is always put ANYONE who will reduce government in office. We got here by electing people who always wanted more government, if we can reverse this we can make progress. But you can't do this when everytime you have people running you just say they are both the same......then there is no way to reverse anything, when you can't see a difference.

I want my freedom!

But that is not all, I don't place all my eggs in one basket, I also support states rights. I see states right as being paramount to challenging unconstituional laws. So we have a double pronged attack, hitting statism high and low. At the federal level and at the state level.

But that is not all, I also support civil disobedience. We got into this situation because politicians practiced civil disobedience(or just plain engaged in criminal behavior) in regards to our constitution. The people can do the same thing, the more that do it the more effective it becomes.

I am for reducing ALL government military and SOCIAL. When you look at government growth social spending is the biggest growth area, it is also one of the most damaging. It creates slaves out of human beings and promises things it cannot deliver on. I am against military and social spending, but some seem they only want to decrease one and not the other, and that is even here.

I mean it does no good to slash defense budget, and then let the freed funds be turned into more political capital for demogauges and slimy politicians. There must be CUTS to everything, or else we increase the dependent class and create more slaves. I have only one goal and that is more freedom.

[YumYum]

Don't take the guy seriously. His first post in this thread was accusing Sharron of something than Lowden did.

Then he claimed that he can't tell them apart. Right, he shouldn't be able to tell apart someone who stole Ron Paul's win in Nevada and someone who will be an ally of Rand's in the Senate.

Then he calls you a neocon, and implied that you supposedly said that "Israel is our strongest ally". But you never said that.

So you see, from the first to his last post here, it was all unadulterated, 100% pure troll posting. And not even smart trolling. The guy belongs to a mental institution, I wouldn't take him too seriously.

That is all you are good for; talking trash about forum members. You need to go back and finish 6th grade.

[low preference guy]

That is all you are good for; talking trash about forum members. You need to go back and finish 6th grade.

You say that when I am defending a forum member from your unfounded accusations. LOL.

[YumYum]

Ok I am going to take you to task real quick, because frankly I am sick of this BS. You make an accusation like this BACK IT UP. When are you going to admit that intellectually you are incapable of making an argument? Is that all you got is baseless accusations of supporting pointless war and supporting harmful alliances and foreign entanglements?

Is that it...can you dig no deeper and come up with anything meaningful that is constructive or helpful for getting people more freedom? Name calling...that is all you have? Freaking sad. Frankly I a not going to justify this drivel with a response.

Hey Stary, I forgot more than you will ever know, and I can believe and think whatever I want. If I think that someone is a neocon, that is my right.

Sarah Palin is calling. You need to see what she wants.

[Stary Hickory]

Don't take the guy seriously. His first post in this thread was accusing Sharron of something than Lowden did.

Then he claimed that he can't tell them apart. Right, he shouldn't be able to tell apart someone who stole Ron Paul's win in Nevada and someone who will be an ally of Rand's in the Senate.

Then he calls you a neocon, and implied that you supposedly said that "Israel is our strongest ally". But you never said that.

So you see, from the first to his last post here, it was all unadulterated, 100% pure troll posting. And not even smart trolling. The guy belongs to a mental institution, I wouldn't take him too seriously.

Thanks for the defense. I can get kind of heated too, I just hate when people don't engage in logical discussion and derail it. The only way anything will change is if we all figure this out, anything that detracts from that is not helping anything or anyone.

Angle is not perfect, but neither is Yum Yum, myself or anyone here. I recognize her views on Israel and foreign policy suck, but overall she is towards greater liberty and LESS government power. I mean that is what it is all about, making the federal government weaker as much as possible.

Foreign policy will change anyways. It is the first thing to go in a collapse. Empire excessive military spending. I am not even worried about that, it is going to go away. I mean the grand daddy of Neocons ran on a non-interventionist platform and won the election, he just changed his tune and became uber neocon later on...and this cost Republicans big time.

To be honest Id rather have a powerful libertarian party, but we don't have one. If we try and make one, we will basically be capitulating to the organizes statists and will quickly descend into a hell hole. If I had a magic wand that could make a libertarian party that could take majorities or even significant amounts of government over I would wave it around mercilessly.

But we don't, and if we look at Democrats HONESTLY they have become something like an Anathema to liberty. This last administration has scared me more than anything I have seen, I had no idea Dems were capable of such things. They used to seem to have some , at least a few, moderate members. I mean there is no way I can see any hope with them, if there is a noticeable difference between the GOP and the Dems it is because of what Obama and the current dems have done.

I can't sit here and pretend they are all the same, the Dems have gone crazy....It's become illegal to care for your own body in a manner you see fit. This is insane! Government growth is out of control. I dislike the GOP that is why I am trying to change it work from within, I have convinced many people myself that Ron Paul is the man and that the wars are ridiculous, and that we need to get back to the constitution.

I am not the only one, all kinds of people have been doing this, and the result is the GOP supporters have finally lost their support for the wars(or is losing it). And the GOP supporters are against the FED.....this is kinda huge. The only ones who cannot really get behind this are progressives because without the ability to steal from people using the FED big government schemes become no longer possible.

I really believe true change (for freedom) will start at the bottom and work up anyways. The problem with America is they are always looking towards politicians to set them free, when it is Americans who must set themselves free in their hearts and minds and then without that statist foundation their master will tumble an fall. That is why I a for empowering the people and the states, but we certainly can hel matters by putting in ANYONE who supports less government control over us.

And just to be clear, I cannot stand the GOP as it is. That's why fight it from the inside and take over. I mean at one time we had real libertarian like parties in America...someone infiltrated them and destroyed them from the inside. We can fix it the same way. In my opinion the GOP is more easily fixed.

[Stary Hickory]

Hey Stary, I forgot more than you will ever know, and I can believe and think whatever I want. If I think that someone is a neocon, that is my right.

Sarah Palin is calling. You need to see what she wants.

Yeah you are really taking this thread to the gutter.

[TNforPaul45]

I just want a politician to come out and say that the American People are our best ally, and that we should pledge our support to them.

[YumYum]

I just want a politician to come out and say that the American People are our best ally, and that we should pledge our support to them.

That is what Ron Paul has done. He cares about this country and he will not cave-in to any special interest groups. Special interest groups from all sides have ruined our country.

[james1906]

YouTube - monkey jacking off (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNj9UJmAnC4&feature=related)
^ the direction of this thread

[paulpwns]

Look!

I started this thread to get RPFs view on Angle.

I said I liked her(some) but I didn't trust her.( Terrorism, Patriot Act, Someone Said Cheney LOL)

I was trying to get MORE of her views on the record.

The stuff I posted is what a volunteer for the campaign read for me( Off a script)

I am trying to decide if I should donate to her, only reason I asked.

I did not intend to flame Sharon. :)

[low preference guy]

Look!

I started this thread to get RPFs view on Angle.

I said I liked her but I didn't trust her.

I was trying to get MORE of her views on the record.

The stuff I posted is what a volunteer for the campaign read for me( Off a script)

I am trying to decide if I should donate to her, only reason I asked.

I did not intend to flame Sharon. :)

I would say this: Thank Sharron Angle for doing us the favor of ending Sue Lowden's political career. Sue Lowden is the person who stole Ron Paul's win in the Nevada caucus in 2008. Her closing of the convention was ruled illegal two years after it took place.

If your way of thanking her is sending her a donation, that would be a fantastic way to do it, as it also helps Rand to get an ally in the Senate. Remember that Rand said he wanted Mike Lee and Sharron Angle to win.

[Kregisen]

Whoever wants to end the war on drugs is not my enemy.

[paulpwns]

OK thanks. I am glad to know that and the purpose of my post has been fulfilled.
I appreciate the information.