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Galileo Galilei
07-16-2010, 02:39 PM
Should Ron Paul be elected Speaker of the House in 2011?

Pelosi is going to be OUT. Few, if any, GOP members have the national renown of Ron Paul.

I say YES.

Ekrub
07-16-2010, 02:41 PM
Well that would be nice, but less likely than him becoming POTUS

t0rnado
07-16-2010, 03:11 PM
Of course we think he should, but Boner will most like be the speaker.

ChaosControl
07-16-2010, 04:01 PM
That'd be pretty damn awesome.

brandon
07-16-2010, 04:05 PM
This thread sucks. Uncle Emanual Watkins would rate it a D-

Galileo Galilei
07-16-2010, 04:12 PM
Could Ron grab a spot amonmg the top GOP leadership at least?

coastie
07-16-2010, 04:21 PM
Should Ron Paul be elected Speaker of the House in 2011?

Nope-he should be elected POTUS in 2012. Eyes on the prize;)

Galileo Galilei
07-17-2010, 02:46 PM
Nope-he should be elected POTUS in 2012. Eyes on the prize;)

Who was the last Speaker of the House to be elected President?

:confused:

nate895
07-17-2010, 02:48 PM
Should he? Yes.

Will he? Almost certainly not.

james1906
07-17-2010, 02:54 PM
The GOP might do it to show that they're for limited govt, but it will be just for show.

sailingaway
07-17-2010, 03:06 PM
Should he? Yes.

Will he? Almost certainly not.

^^ this

specsaregood
07-17-2010, 03:28 PM
Could Ron grab a spot amonmg the top GOP leadership at least?

I don't think you understand how these things work. :rolleyes:

Galileo Galilei
07-17-2010, 03:35 PM
I don't think you understand how these things work. :rolleyes:

I do, but the composition of the House will be a lot different in 2011 than it is now.

South Park Fan
07-17-2010, 05:11 PM
I do, but the composition of the House will be a lot different in 2011 than it is now.

Rarely do more than 10% of seats change representation. Ron would need ~25% to have a realistic chance at becoming speaker, and that's assuming that they are all liberty candidates.

Captain America
07-17-2010, 05:25 PM
if buy any chance he was the speaker do you think it would hurt or help his 2012 run?

nate895
07-17-2010, 05:33 PM
Rarely do more than 10% of seats change representation. Ron would need ~25% to have a realistic chance at becoming speaker, and that's assuming that they are all liberty candidates.

This is shaping to be an odd-election season, however. While I highly doubt Ron Paul will become Speaker of the House (I find the Presidency a whole heck of a lot more likely), it is possible he could be elected Speaker or gain a leadership position by some sort of miracle. The Speaker has a lot of power. The Speaker has the power over the whole House the way a committee chair has power over that committee. The House overall is organized into the "Committee of the Whole."

nate895
07-17-2010, 05:36 PM
if buy any chance he was the speaker do you think it would hurt or help his 2012 run?

Either help a lot or hurt a lot. That would depend if he could start to fix Congress. If I had to bet, it would probably hurt if he wanted to keep the position. If he made a stand on principle and got kicked out by the other Representatives, that would mean that he could become a populist hero.

Edit: I'd strongly urge Ron Paul to openly run for Speaker because that could really boost his popularity among the GOP base if he ran on a strong conservative platform against Boehner. Republicans by-and-large hate their Representatives in Congress. If Ron Paul could make himself the poster boy for the opposition, that would catapult him into front-runner status.

coastie
07-17-2010, 05:41 PM
Who was the last Speaker of the House to be elected President?

:confused:

How you got that out of what I posted-the world may never know.

I voted no, and made a statement. Sheesh

specsaregood
07-17-2010, 06:29 PM
Rarely do more than 10% of seats change representation. Ron would need ~25% to have a realistic chance at becoming speaker, and that's assuming that they are all liberty candidates.

You only need that 10% to swing our way to get the ones only interested in staying elected to know which way the wind is blowing.


This is shaping to be an odd-election season, however. While I highly doubt Ron Paul will become Speaker of the House (I find the Presidency a whole heck of a lot more likely), it is possible he could be elected Speaker or gain a leadership position by some sort of miracle. The Speaker has a lot of power. The Speaker has the power over the whole House the way a committee chair has power over that committee. The House overall is organized into the "Committee of the Whole."

All power to legislate is supposed to reside in the house. Hey, he might as well go for it.

Theocrat
07-17-2010, 06:53 PM
His own party doesn't like to hear him speak, so it'll be hard-pressed for him to become Speaker of the House. After all, we know what they did to keep him from becoming Chairman of the Financial Services Committee...

Galileo Galilei
07-17-2010, 06:53 PM
How you got that out of what I posted-the world may never know.

I voted no, and made a statement. Sheesh

I lost my train of thought.

libertybrewcity
07-17-2010, 08:29 PM
He would never get it. A few weeks ago they were about to strip him of all the committee positions he held. In order to be speaker you have to give money to lots of candidates like Pelosi did leading up to 06. Paul probably doesn't support more than a few and I doubt he would give money to any.

specsaregood
07-17-2010, 08:37 PM
He would never get it. A few weeks ago they were about to strip him of all the committee positions he held.

Source?

KramerDSP
07-17-2010, 09:43 PM
That's referring to RP being one of three GOP members who refused to sign a pledge regarding earmarks.

The Patriot
07-17-2010, 09:49 PM
That's referring to RP being one of three GOP members who refused to sign a pledge regarding earmarks.

Those earmarks are the biggest crock of s**t ever. It is just a way for big spending republicans too mask their fiscal liberalism by trying to sound conservative. They don't effect the deficit a single cent, and keep money out of the hands of the executive branch.

libertybrewcity
07-17-2010, 10:52 PM
Source?

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/three-congressmen-defy-gop-earmark-ban-face-losing-committee-seats.php

cindy25
07-17-2010, 10:59 PM
here is one way he could get it:
new house will have 200 Dems, 235 Reps

if the Dems nominated RP, and he could pull 18 Libertarian minded of the Reps.
no Dem would want Boehner; and no Dem could win.

South Park Fan
07-17-2010, 11:01 PM
here is one way he could get it:
new house will have 200 Dems, 235 Reps

if the Dems nominated RP, and he could pull 18 Libertarian minded of the Reps.
no Dem would want Boehner; and no Dem could win.

Then Ron Paul would be as hated among national Republicans as Kent Williams is among Tennessee Republicans.

specsaregood
07-17-2010, 11:06 PM
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/three-congressmen-defy-gop-earmark-ban-face-losing-committee-seats.php

Oh, ok. I thought you meant they were actually serious when you said, "were about to strip him of all the committee positions", when in reality it was never going to happen.