Rangel introduces HR 5741, involuntary servitude act

[cindy25]

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H.R.5741
Title: To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 7/15/2010) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 7/15/2010 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Armed Services.
TITLE(S): (italics indicate a title for a portion of a bill)
OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED:
To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.

[michaelwise]

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H.R.5741
Title: To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 7/15/2010) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 7/15/2010 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Armed Services.
TITLE(S): (italics indicate a title for a portion of a bill)
OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED:
To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.

Looks like they are getting ready to declare war and turn us all into slaves.

[NYgs23]

This would be a terrific way to demonstrate the unenforceability of laws imposed on an unwilling populace. How many millions of 18-42 year olds will refuse to lift a finger "in furtherance of homeland security"?

[cindy25]

what I found unusual was he did not name it "Universal service act" as he has always done before.

also strange he would introduce it now, usually these type of bills are introduced when a new congress opens, so it is forgotten by election day.

wonder if Obama/Pelosi knew; I would think not

[A Son of Liberty]

Awesome! I just found out how I'll be practicing the great American tradition, given down to us by Thoreau, of "civil disobedience"!

[hillbilly123069]

what I found unusual was he did not name it "Universal service act" as he has always done before.

also strange he would introduce it now, usually these type of bills are introduced when a new congress opens, so it is forgotten by election day.

wonder if Obama/Pelosi knew; I would think not
Lame duck session. They know they're on their way out so what's to lose. I agree with Mark Levin and Sean Hannity that any laws passed this year be nullified as soon as the new congress seats.

[cindy25]

laws can't be nullified unless Republicans win a veto proof majority; just taking the senate will be difficult. any repeal can't be until 2013

[BuddyRey]

Wait...they're actually calling it the Involuntary Servitude Act?

I guess they finally decided it was just better to drop the pretenses and let people see the gun in the room.

[messana]

“The test for Congress, particularly for those members who support the war, is to require all who enjoy the benefits of our democracy to contribute to the defense of the country. All of America’s children should share the risk of being placed in harm’s way.

“In other words, if you support the war, you should support a compulsory military draft,” Congressman Rangel said.

http://countusout.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/read-h-r-5741-carefully-the-new-and-more-undemocratic-charlie-rangel-push-for-mandatory-servitudemilitary-civilian-draft-for-men-and-women-ages-18-42/

Not sure his stance in the war - maybe he's just trying to make a firestorm in congress.

[free1]

Congress has jurisdiction over only a few things, that doesn't include People.

So what is this "persons in the United States" ?

DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE A CLUE YET ????????

Define "United States" - it's the government.

Define "person" - a commercial entity in most cases where the United States (government) is involved.

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE KEEP FALLING FOR THIS CRAP?

Are you a "citizen of the United States" ?

Better figure it out!

[chudrockz]

I hope it passes and is signed into law. At 37, I would have thought I was too old to be "drafted" but I guess not.

I won't be, anyhow. Not until I'm outta bullets.

[jkr]

13th amendment nullifies this bonkers idea.

[chudrockz]

13th amendment nullifies this bonkers idea.

True, but then the Constitution invalidates 95% of the activities of the federal government. It hasn't stopped them yet.

[free1]

13th amendment nullifies this bonkers idea.
Recall election now, today, get on it!

The guy swears an oath to the constitution, but doesn't understand the 13th ?

Did he even read the damn thing?

[Sentient Void]

Did anyone even click the link?

Maybe its just me, but it doesn't seem to be working nor can I find it if I search those records manually, or I do a search on google.

:-/

[Elwar]

It's a political bill...meant to highlight the fact that we (as Americans) are willing to send soldiers off to fight as long as it's not us doing the fighting.

[cindy25]

H.R.5741 -- Universal National Service Act (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 5741 IH

111th CONGRESS
2d Session

H. R. 5741
To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service , either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
July 15, 2010

Mr. RANGEL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services


A BILL
To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service , either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.

(a) Short Title- This Act may be cited as the `Universal National Service Act'.
(b) Table of Contents- The table of contents for this Act is as follows:
Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.
TITLE I--NATIONAL SERVICE

Sec. 101. Definitions.

Sec. 102. National service obligation.
Sec. 103. Induction to perform national service .
Sec. 104. Two-year period of national service .
Sec. 105. Implementation by the President.
Sec. 106. Examination and classification of persons.
Sec. 107. Deferments and postponements.
Sec. 108. Induction exemptions.
Sec. 109. Conscientious objection.
Sec. 110. Discharge following national service .
TITLE II--AMENDMENTS TO MILITARY SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT

Sec. 201. Registration of females.
Sec. 202. Registration and induction authority.
TITLE I--NATIONAL SERVICE

SEC. 101. DEFINITIONS.

In this title:
(1) The term `contingency operation' has the meaning given that term in section 101(a)(13) of title 10, United States Code.
(2) The term `military service' means service performed as a member of an active or reserve component of the uniformed services.
(3) The term `national service' means military service or service in a civilian capacity that, as determined by the President, promotes the national defense, including national or community service and service related to homeland security.

(a) Obligation for Service - It is the obligation of every citizen of the United States, and every other person residing in the United States, who is between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of national service as prescribed in this title unless exempted under the provisions of this title.
(b) Forms of National Service - The national service obligation under this title shall be performed either--
(1) as a member of an active or reserve component of the uniformed services; or
(2) in a civilian capacity that, as determined by the President, promotes the national defense, including national or community service and service related to homeland security.
(c) Age Limits- A person may be inducted under this title only if the person has attained the age of 18 and has not attained the age of 42
(4) The term `Secretary concerned' means the Secretary of Defense with respect to the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps, the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast Guard, the Secretary of Commerce, with respect to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the Secretary of Health and Human Services, with respect to the Public Health Service .
(5) The term `United States', when used in a geographical sense, means the several States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and Guam.
(6) The term `uniformed services' means the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, commissioned corps of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and commissioned corps of the Public Health Service .
SEC. 102. NATIONAL SERVICE OBLIGATION.

SEC. 103. INDUCTION TO PERFORM NATIONAL SERVICE .

(a) Induction Requirements- The President shall provide for the induction of persons described in section 102(a) to perform their national service obligation.
(b) Limitation on Induction for Military Service - Persons described in section 102(a) may be inducted to perform military service only if--
(1) a declaration of war is in effect;
(2) the President declares a national emergency, which the President determines necessitates the induction of persons to perform military service , and immediately informs Congress of the reasons for the declaration and the need to induct persons for military service ; or
(3) members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps are engaged in a contingency operation pursuant to a congressional authorization for the use of military force.
(c) Limitation on Number of Persons Inducted for Military Service - When the induction of persons for military service is authorized by subsection (b), the President shall determine the number of persons described in section 102(a) whose national service obligation is to be satisfied through military service based on--
(1) the authorized end strengths of the uniformed services;
(2) the feasibility of the uniformed services to recruit sufficient volunteers to achieve such end-strength levels; and
(3) provide a mechanism for the random selection of persons to be inducted to perform military service .
(d) Selection for Induction-
(1) RANDOM SELECTION FOR MILITARY SERVICE - When the induction of persons for military service is authorized by subsection (b), the President shall utilize a mechanism for the random selection of persons to be inducted to perform military service .
(2) CIVILIAN SERVICE - Persons described in section 102(a) who do not volunteer to perform military service or are not inducted for military service shall perform their national service obligation in a civilian capacity pursuant to section 102(b)(2).


SEC. 104. TWO-YEAR PERIOD OF NATIONAL SERVICE .

(a) General Rule- Except as otherwise provided in this section, the period of national service performed by a person under this title shall be two years.
(b) Grounds for Extension- At the discretion of the President, the period of military service for a member of the uniformed services under this title may be extended--
(1) with the consent of the member, for the purpose of furnishing hospitalization, medical, or surgical care for injury or illness incurred in line of duty; or
(2) for the purpose of requiring the member to compensate for any time lost to training for any cause.
(c) Early Termination- The period of national service for a person under this title shall be terminated before the end of such period under the following circumstances:
(1) The voluntary enlistment and active service of the person in an active or reserve component of the uniformed services for a period of at least two years, in which case the period of basic military training and education actually served by the person shall be counted toward the term of enlistment.
(2) The admission and service of the person as a cadet or midshipman at the United States Military Academy, the United States Naval Academy, the United States Air Force Academy, the Coast Guard Academy, or the United States Merchant Marine Academy.
(3) The enrollment and service of the person in an officer candidate program, if the person has signed an agreement to accept a Reserve commission in the appropriate service with an obligation to serve on active duty if such a commission is offered upon completion of the program.
(4) Such other grounds as the President may establish.
SEC. 105. IMPLEMENTATION BY THE PRESIDENT.

(a) In General- The President shall prescribe such regulations as are necessary to carry out this title.
(b) Matter To Be Covered by Regulations- Such regulations shall include specification of the following:
(1) The types of civilian service that may be performed in order for a person to satisfy the person's national service obligation under this title.
(2) Standards for satisfactory performance of civilian service and of penalties for failure to perform civilian service satisfactorily.
(3) The manner in which persons shall be selected for induction under this title, including the manner in which those selected will be notified of such selection.
(4) All other administrative matters in connection with the induction of persons under this title and the registration, examination, and classification of such persons.
(5) A means to determine questions or claims with respect to inclusion for, or exemption or deferment from induction under this title, including questions of conscientious objection.
(6) Standards for compensation and benefits for persons performing their national service obligation under this title through civilian service .
(7) Such other matters as the President determines necessary to carry out this title.
(c) Use of Prior Act- To the extent determined appropriate by the President, the President may use for purposes of this title the procedures provided in the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.), including procedures for registration, selection, and induction.
SEC. 106. EXAMINATION AND CLASSIFICATION OF PERSONS.

(a) Examination- Every person subject to induction under this title shall, before induction, be physically and mentally examined and shall be classified as to fitness to perform national service .
(b) Different Classification Standards- The President may apply different classification standards for fitness for military service and fitness for civilian service .
SEC. 107. DEFERMENTS AND POSTPONEMENTS.

(a) High School Students- A person who is pursuing a standard course of study, on a full-time basis, in a secondary school or similar institution of learning shall be entitled to have induction under this title postponed until the person--
(1) obtains a high school diploma;
(2) ceases to pursue satisfactorily such course of study; or
(3) attains the age of 20.
(b) Hardship and Disability- Deferments from national service under this title may be made for--
(1) extreme hardship; or
(2) physical or mental disability.
(c) Training Capacity- The President may postpone or suspend the induction of persons for military service under this title as necessary to limit the number of persons receiving basic military training and education to the maximum number that can be adequately trained.
(d) Termination- No deferment or postponement of induction under this title shall continue after the cause of such deferment or postponement ceases.
SEC. 108. INDUCTION EXEMPTIONS.

(a) Qualifications- No person may be inducted for military service under this title unless the person is acceptable to the Secretary concerned for training and meets the same health and physical qualifications applicable under section 505 of title 10, United States Code, to persons seeking original enlistment in a regular component of the Armed Forces.
(b) Other Military Service - No person shall be liable for induction under this title who--
(1) is serving, or has served honorably for at least six months, in any component of the uniformed services on active duty; or
(2) is or becomes a cadet or midshipman at the United States Military Academy, the United States Naval Academy, the United States Air Force Academy, the Coast Guard Academy, the United States Merchant Marine Academy, a midshipman of a Navy accredited State maritime academy, a member of the Senior Reserve Officers' Training Corps, or the naval aviation college program, so long as that person satisfactorily continues in and completes at least two years training therein.
SEC. 109. CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION.

(a) Claims as Conscientious Objector- Nothing in this title shall be construed to require a person to be subject to combatant training and service in the uniformed services, if that person, by reason of sincerely held moral, ethical, or religious beliefs, is conscientiously opposed to participation in war in any form.
(b) Alternative Noncombatant or Civilian Service - A person who claims exemption from combatant training and service under subsection (a) and whose claim is sustained by the local board shall--
(1) be assigned to noncombatant service (as defined by the President), if the person is inducted into the uniformed services; or
(2) be ordered by the local board, if found to be conscientiously opposed to participation in such noncombatant service , to perform national civilian service for the period specified in section 104(a) and subject to such regulations as the President may prescribe.
SEC. 110. DISCHARGE FOLLOWING NATIONAL SERVICE .

(a) Discharge- Upon completion or termination of the obligation to perform national service under this title, a person shall be discharged from the uniformed services or from civilian service , as the case may be, and shall not be subject to any further service under this title.
(b) Coordination With Other Authorities- Nothing in this section shall limit or prohibit the call to active service in the uniformed services of any person who is a member of a regular or reserve component of the uniformed services.
TITLE II--AMENDMENTS TO MILITARY SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT

SEC. 201. REGISTRATION OF FEMALES.

(a) Registration Required- Section 3(a) of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. 453(a)) is amended--
(1) by striking `male' both places it appears;
(2) by inserting `or herself' after `himself'; and
(3) by striking `he' and inserting `the person'.
(b) Conforming Amendment- Section 16(a) of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 466(a)) is amended by striking `men' and inserting `persons'.
SEC. 202. REGISTRATION AND INDUCTION AUTHORITY.

(a) Registration- Section 4 of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 454) is amended by inserting after subsection (g) the following new subsection:
`(h) This section does not apply with respect to the induction of persons into the Armed Forces pursuant to the Universal National Service Act.'.
(b) Induction- Section 17(c) of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 467(c)) is amended by striking `now or hereafter' and all that follows through the period at the end and inserting `inducted pursuant to the Universal National Service Act.'.

[HOLLYWOOD]

wtf?
(3) The term `national service' means military service or service in a civilian capacity that, as determined by the President, promotes the national defense, including national or community service and service related to homeland security.This is becoming full blown Communism, even scarier, we already know, the POTUS is a puppet dishing propaganda.

[coastie]

(b) Other Military Service - No person shall be liable for induction under this title who--
(1) is serving, or has served honorably for at least six months, in any component of the uniformed services on active duty;

Since I've already done this, I guess I'm ok:confused: Probably not.


(a) Claims as Conscientious Objector- Nothing in this title shall be construed to require a person to be subject to combatant training and service in the uniformed services, if that person, by reason of sincerely held moral, ethical, or religious beliefs, is conscientiously opposed to participation in war in any form.

Too bad it's "they" who decide for you if this the case, and from what I've seen, it's notoriously hard to "prove" this to their satisfaction.:mad:

Either way, I aint going, and anyone who shows up to take me will suffer acute lead poisoning;)

[Razmear]

Sounds just like what Israel does.
Guess we need more troops so we can start taking Venezuela's oil next.

bastards,
eb

[osan]

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H.R.5741
Title: To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 7/15/2010) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 7/15/2010 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Armed Services.
TITLE(S): (italics indicate a title for a portion of a bill)
OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED:
To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.

Looks like one that will go nowhere. Zero sponsors is not a good sign for their success.

One needs to ask himself what the real motive is for introducing such a bill - a feeler for public response? Harbinger of wars to come? Rangel is a brain-dead asshole?... Oh wait, that's redundant. Sorry.

I might wonder, however, if the Obamatron might try to pull this off with an executive order stunt. :eek: He's tried just about everything else, why stop now?

What is the likelihood we will repeal the 17th Amendment?

[TNforPaul45]

If the media really starts hyping the need for this bill, and how awesome it is, then you will know that War is coming soon.

Hell, it may be coming soon anyway. Things are so chaotic predictable patterns are all breaking down anyway.

[fedup100]

Lame duck session. They know they're on their way out so what's to lose. I agree with Mark Levin and Sean Hannity that any laws passed this year be nullified as soon as the new congress seats.

Don't fall for that. They sound good now bashing the dick tater, but they are neocon zionist whores who will impale Ron Paul and you if you think there is a chance in hell of a Paul or Paul like victory.

Do not think for a minute they will repeal anything, this are the same bastards that have been in control for years and have set the footprint that der dick tater now walks in.

Get out there and fight like hell to stop these demonic bastards from passing these so called lame duck don't worry about it bills!!!

[cindy25]

CNBC (Obama TV) called for a draft 2 weeks ago

[YumYum]

Didn't Obama say while campaigning that he was going to introduce mandatory national service? So, I'm not shocked. We need the draft to go to war with Iran and to keep civil unrest under control in this country. Also, Rahm Emanuel said we would have mandatory service.

The bill said:

"Deferments may be made for physical or mental disability, or under claims of conscientious objector."

Well, I guess I don't have to worry. I am a psychotic, neurotic, paranoid, bi-polar schizophrenic paraplegic in a wheel chair, who is a devout Quaker Jew who is against any and all forms of war and killing.

[idirtify]

If the gov really wanted all Americans to play a part in defending the country against invasion (foreign AND DOMESTIC), they would just give us all a brand new M-16 and 5000 rounds.

[dannno]

Wow, they can go fuck themselves.

[jmdrake]

Wait...they're actually calling it the Involuntary Servitude Act?

I guess they finally decided it was just better to drop the pretenses and let people see the gun in the room.

They're not that transparent.

H.R.5741 -- Universal National Service Act (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 5741 IH

111th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 5741

To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security , to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 15, 2010

Mr. RANGEL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services

A BILL

To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security , to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

Rangel pulls this stunt every year. Stupid sheeple on the left think it's his way of being "antiwar". :rolleyes: They've bought into this theory that rich people will magically be against the war if their children might be drafted. Never mind that the bill itself gives everybody an out who doesn't actually want to fight. But you can't tell that to the sheeple. Believe me, I've tried. :mad: I mean, it's not like with a democratic president, house and senate the dems couldn't just end the wars. :rolleyes:

[Kotin]

I believe he does this to mock war hawks.. It's merely symbolic.. He does this every session if I am not mistaken..

[djdellisanti4]

What I really want to see is if the tea party gets behind it. They may finally show their true colors. Obviously this will fail though.

[jmdrake]

I believe he does this to mock war hawks.. It's merely symbolic.. He does this every session if I am not mistaken..

That argument might have held water before his party took control of the presidency and both houses of congress. It does not hold water now. If dems wanted to end the wars they could do so immediately.

[Slutter McGee]

What I really want to see is if the tea party gets behind it. They may finally show their true colors. Obviously this will fail though.

Shaking my head. The tea-party wont get behind it.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

[coastie]

Rangel pulls this stunt every year. Stupid sheeple on the left think it's his way of being "antiwar". They've bought into this theory that rich people will magically be against the war if their children might be drafted. Never mind that the bill itself gives everybody an out who doesn't actually want to fight. But you can't tell that to the sheeple. Believe me, I've tried. I mean, it's not like with a democratic president, house and senate the dems couldn't just end the wars.

As I pointed out earlier, it's really hard to prove this to their satisfaction-and next to impossible if you're already in.:mad:

I wouldnt say it would never pass. At the rate we're going, plus talking to people on the street-there's alot more people that are for this than against. :mad::mad::mad:

[jmdrake]

As I pointed out earlier, it's really hard to prove this to their satisfaction-and next to impossible if you're already in.:mad:

I wouldnt say it would never pass. At the rate we're going, plus talking to people on the street-there's alot more people that are for this than against. :mad::mad::mad:

Well I hope they pass it. And I hope they hurry up and do it before I'm too old. I'm ready for some civil disobedience but I have no interest in doing drugs and I don't want to put my entire family in jeopardy by not paying taxes. But I have nothing against going up to some Obama/Rangel "national service" goon and telling him where he can shove his clipboard.