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sailingaway
07-09-2010, 09:56 AM
This article on yesterday's forum is actually even handed. Go figure!

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/09/1342195/conway-and-paul-highlight-differences.html

ShakinT
07-09-2010, 03:27 PM
Online the liberal blogers are jumping all over it as proof that Rand is losing momentum... But the MSM is treating the race the way it is: tied. I don't think Rand will fall much further in the polls, and if he does I think he'll get back up to tied pretty quickly.

However, I would rather have a landslide victory like the KY GOP primary, not one of these races that comes down to the wire on election night because all the polls are too close to call. To quote another post of mine:

"Rand should stick to the strategy he used during the primary. He should emphasize how he's an insurgent candidate... The most effective ads in the primary were the Washington Machine ads, and Conway is just as much if not more a part of that machine than Greyson was. I'm assuming that now that the GOP establishment has warmed to Rand, his campaign seems to be taking advice from them like "attack Obama bc he's not popular in KY." But it's too much of a typical politician strategy. Rand is not running against Obama, he's running against Conway. It's ok to attack Obama, but the primary target should be Conway. And frankly I think Rand should avoid attacking Obama too much in a state that is 60% democrat as it might turn off some swing voters if his attacks on Obama are relentless.

Conway is your typical John Edwards democrat. He's a trial lawyer who thinks he's a hero for suing big corporations, he's a liberal in that he's pro-choice, but he's totally against medical marijuana. He is such an easy target it's crazy Rand isn't attacking him more.

An ad pointing out how hypocritical Jack Conway is for taking money from BP is needed. Most people in KY don't know about this..."

sailingaway
07-09-2010, 03:33 PM
He dropped exactly one point in the PPP poll relative to Conway, since the last time PPP polled, and actually picked up raw percentage out of the undecided from last time they polled.

Let them think he's losing momentum.

specsaregood
07-09-2010, 04:06 PM
Is media actually reacting to the PPP poll showing perceived media bias against Rand?
What did that poll show? I must have missed it.

sailingaway
07-09-2010, 05:17 PM
What did that poll show? I must have missed it.

PPP had last polled between Rand and Conway a couple of weeks before the primary, and found Rand one point ahead at that time. This poll found them tied.

However, this poll also found a plurality thought the media coverage was biased against Paul.

The bad news is that Rand's approval rating was down again.

However, McConnell's was even worse, and lost his approval solely with conservatives. He's paying the price for trying to down Rand in the primary, and has a lot of making up to do to voters.

Senate poll: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_KY_706.pdf (this has the media questions)

McConnell poll: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_KY_707.pdf

RonPaulFanInGA
07-09-2010, 05:23 PM
He dropped exactly one point in the PPP poll relative to Conway, since the last time PPP polled, and actually picked up raw percentage out of the undecided from last time they polled.

Let them think he's losing momentum.

From a one-point lead at the beginning of May to a tie. I mean, really: after all the crap they've thrown at Paul, his overall percetage of support is up and he's declined one point vs. Conway.

Oh well, let them be shocked when Paul and Angle win.

NYgs23
07-09-2010, 08:49 PM
While watching the video of the recent forum, I was particularly struck by Conway waving his "tough on crime" credentials, talking about how successful he was going after drug pushers, pornographers, and whoever else. How is this liberal?

low preference guy
07-09-2010, 08:53 PM
While watching the video of the recent forum, I was particularly struck by Conway waving his "tough on crime" credentials, talking about how successful he was going after drug pushers, pornographers, and whoever else. How is this liberal?

"Liberals" are all about attacking individual freedom in favor of some collective good. This perfectly fits their view.

Bman
07-09-2010, 09:41 PM
"Liberals" are all about attacking individual freedom in favor of some collective good. This perfectly fits their view.

+1

0zzy
07-11-2010, 03:57 AM
This article on yesterday's forum is actually even handed. Go figure!

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/09/1342195/conway-and-paul-highlight-differences.html

Figure? Well, it might be because Kentucky.com and this newspaper endorsed him :P

Adrock
07-11-2010, 07:04 AM
The new poll has shown insignificant change if any. Paul's unfavorable rating went up seven percent in the last two months (and so did Conway's). That isn't great, but not game changing. I think that much of the new unfavorable opinion of Rand is probably pretty soft. With the perceived media bias, as long as Rand stays on message in the future he should be fine.

sailingaway
07-11-2010, 08:00 AM
The new poll has shown insignificant change if any. Paul's unfavorable rating went up seven percent in the last two months (and so did Conway's). That isn't great, but not game changing. I think that much of the new unfavorable opinion of Rand is probably pretty soft. With the perceived media bias, as long as Rand stays on message in the future he should be fine.

Heck, RAnd only went down one point since before the primary, and after the hugest concentrated media attack I've ever seen -- possibly excepting the one initially against Sarah Palin. I'm not concerned about that poll, I am just pointing to a different part where they measured McConnell's approval rating which had totally tanked, except amongst liberals where it had gone up a single point. The drop was ALL in conservatives who resented his actions in the primary. The GOP can't primary with numbers like that and the establishment GOP needs to put it back together for any identified as establishment to get elected in a primary, at this point. And they really seemed to make an effort in NKY, which I think is great.