Palin Touted to Replace Michael Steele

[cindy25]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/07/earlyshow/main6653582.shtml

[Stop Making Cents]

That would be a marked improvement

[silus]

That would be a marked improvement
I'm assuming you don't understand the words "marked improvement."

[rprprs]

I'm assuming you don't understand the words "marked improvement."

lol. Agreed.

[djdellisanti4]

Under her "leadership", the Libertarian Party may finally gain ground haha.

[Stop Making Cents]

I'm assuming you don't understand the words "marked improvement."

I'm assuming you don't understand how important her endorsement of Rand Paul was.

[tremendoustie]

Palin seems like she might be a little more strident in reducing the government domestically .... how does she stack up on foreign policy? Is she speaking against nation building and policing the world, and looking to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan any time soon?

I don't know, I don't think either of them are very good, but I don't think either is the devil (aka Bill Kristol) either.

[silus]

I'm assuming you don't understand how important her endorsement of Rand Paul was.
Exchanging favors is not how to run government. You need to learn more about Ron Paul, your posts are consistently garbage.

[specsaregood]

I'm assuming you don't understand how important her endorsement of Rand Paul was.

She endorsed Rand, Rand did not endorse her and Ron especially did not.

[Stop Making Cents]

Exchanging favors is not how to run government. You need to learn more about Ron Paul, your posts are consistently garbage.

And yours are epic masterpieces that should be preserved for the ages! :rolleyes::cool:

[Stop Making Cents]

She endorsed Rand, Rand did not endorse her and Ron especially did not.

Yes, she did - when no 'mainstream' Republican would touch him with a ten foot pole and the entire Republican leadership was hell-bent on electing Grayson and destroying Rand. She even went on fox news - with the largest tv news audience and defended Rand. What the hell more do you want from her? Is she perfect ? NO. but she diverted attention from a lot of Republican zombies to the Rand Paul and Ron Paul movement with her endorsements.

[catdd]

Steele didn't do anything wrong to begin with so there's no reason to be replaced. I wonder who wrote that article?

[paulitics]

Good, than let Michael Steele be the leader of the Tea party, and let her be the poster girl of the GOP.

We really need to reach out the Steele. The potential of bringing in new voters, younger,and anti-war to the liberty movement would be tremendous.

[specsaregood]

Yes, she did - when no 'mainstream' Republican would touch him with a ten foot pole and the entire Republican leadership was hell-bent on electing Grayson and destroying Rand.

So she was able to pick the winning horse....big deal it paid off well for her. At the same time, she is a unabashed war monger we don't need more of those in any influential positions.

[charrob]

...if she gets anywhere near Capitol Hill the Republicans can kiss the independents goodbye.

[silus]

People should just do what they believe and avoid trying to repay "favors." No one owes Palin SHIT for supporting Rand.

[Stop Making Cents]

So she was able to pick the winning horse....big deal it paid off well for her. At the same time, she is a unabashed war monger we don't need more of those in any influential positions.

If she endorsed Grayson you'd give her hell for that. Give credit where credit is due

[specsaregood]

If she endorsed Grayson you'd give her hell for that. Give credit where credit is due

I'm pretty sure I have, she is a smart girl as far as career decisions go. I have been saying that all along.

[Kotin]

If she endorsed Grayson you'd give her hell for that. Give credit where credit is due

It's great that she helped us but that does not negate the fact that she is a war hawk and posseses no knowledge about history or solid policy..

[erowe1]

When Steele was elected to the job I would have taken Palin over him. But as things are shaping up now, we really need to rally to his defense. This is another battle in the war to purge the GOP of anyone who doesn't support nation building, and we don't want to lose it.

[charrob]

It's great that she helped us but that does not negate the fact that she is a war hawk and posseses no knowledge about history or solid policy..

...she's also a religious nut who tries to shove her "morals" and "values" down everyone elses throat.

[erowe1]

...if she gets anywhere near Capitol Hill the Republicans can kiss the independents goodbye.

I don't think independent voters care at all who the party chairs are.

[erowe1]

...she's also a religious nut who tries to shove her "morals" and "values" down everyone elses throat.

She is? How so? You mean because she didn't kill her baby like she was supposed to, and now we all have to be forced to live in a world with another person with downs syndrome?

[charrob]

I don't think independent voters care at all who the party chairs are.

i dunno...just the sound of that shrill obnoxious voice would send me running... i want no connection to anything palin...

[freshjiva]

Aren't chairmen (or chairwomen) of any major political party not allowed to run for President?

[charrob]

She is? How so? You mean because she didn't kill her baby like she was supposed to, and now we all have to be forced to live in a world with another person with downs syndrome?

don't you remember...jesuuuuuuuus told us to go into iraq.....

[silus]

She is? How so? You mean because she didn't kill her baby like she was supposed to, and now we all have to be forced to live in a world with another person with downs syndrome?
No, its because she thinks its the moral responsibility of the US to support Israel militarily.

[erowe1]

Aren't chairmen (or chairwomen) of any major political party not allowed to run for President?

I'm sure they can't run while they're sitting as chair. But they'll just step down to do so.

[erowe1]

don't you remember...jesuuuuuuuus told us to go into iraq.....

I don't remember the exact quote. But yeah, anybody who supported the Iraq war, for any reason (including Palin, Steele, and almost all Republicans), supported forcing it on the rest of us. If someone who supported the Iraq war additionally believed that it was a moral issue that was rooted in their world view (after all, how could it not be?), that doesn't make that position any worse than it already is.

[Stop Making Cents]

she posseses no knowledge about history or solid policy..


So you believe the charicature the media has made of her. :confused:

Do you still believe Obama is the messiah too? :rolleyes:

The media would never lie!

[low preference guy]

...if she gets anywhere near Capitol Hill the Republicans can kiss the independents goodbye.

only pro-choice fanatics hate palin passionately. and that group by itself doesn't make anywhere close to a majority. most voters would give her a look if the other choice is obama.

[HOLLYWOOD]

It's great that she helped us but that does not negate the fact that she is a war hawk and possesses no knowledge about history or solid policy..


Amen Brother! She's a HOE... that very Dumb HOE, which AK's sucked up to and the GOP dressed her up for the RNC nomination, then the latest, etc, etc, etc. How much lipstick can you put on this dingbat? Additionally, Palin is a prostitute like 100's of other Capital Hill politicians, no difference in the final outcome... she's the same no matter what game/path she may play.

NOW, as most here know, CNN will do anything to fracture the GOP party, Republicans, Conservatives, Libertarians, Tea Party... anything to keep the socialists/dumbocrats in power. Soooooooooo, we have to hold our noses until after Nov 2nd, 2010.

This classic CNN coverage of Palin says in all, by Jack Cafferty, AND obviously the intellectual inverse of Ron Paul.

YouTube - Jack Cafferty slams Sarah Palin! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73itui30qIE)

[silus]

So you believe the charicature the media has made of her. :confused:

Do you still believe Obama is the messiah too? :rolleyes:

The media would never lie!
We haven't listened to the media when they first told us about Obama, so why the hell do you think we would need them to evaluate Palin?? Listen, newbie, people here have had this shit figured out way before the election took place. We've been at this since before Oct 2009, keep that in mind. You're the one that needs to figure out what kind of folks you're talking to.

[jmdrake]

If she endorsed Grayson you'd give her hell for that. Give credit where credit is due

And Michael Steele finally told the truth about the war in Afghanistan. Give credit where credit is due.

[charrob]

only pro-choice fanatics hate palin passionately. and that group by itself doesn't make anywhere close to a majority. most voters would give her a look if the other choice is obama.

what does pro-choice have anything to do with it? i'm sure pro-choicers do detest her but that's a tiny fraction of voters out there who detest her for a ton of other reasons... she was even vocal about two elderly sisters in Washington State being able to get a "civil union"... and Washington State trying to get this law passed... she's a nutcase and a control freak.

there is no one single human being that will galvanize the left and many independents as Sarah Palin to vote Obama in in 2012. I didn't vote Obama in 2008, but i guarantee you, if that bitch is the republican nominee i not only will vote for Obama, I will be first in line to vote for him, i will campaign for him, hold signs for him, and i detest Obama!

by all means elect her for your republican vp... i really couldn't give a shit.

[specsaregood]

I didn't vote Obama in 2008, but i guarantee you, if that bitch is the republican nominee i not only will vote for Obama, I will be first in line to vote for him, i will campaign for him, hold signs for him, and i detest Obama!

Now, now, now, lets not get carried away here. although it would be a great argument for dropping out of society altogether. :)



by all means elect her for your republican vp... i really couldn't give a shit.
Hrm, it sounds like you do care.

[silus]

I just follow George Carlin's advice and stay the fuck home.

[charrob]

Now, now, now, lets not get carried away here. although it would be a great argument for dropping out of society altogether. :)


Hrm, it sounds like you do care.


i'm sorry, i really should know better than getting involved in a palin thread-- that is one human being (and, honest, the only one i've ever known) that makes my hair stand on end and my anger reach areas i never knew it could reach... :o

[low preference guy]

by all means elect her for your republican vp... i really couldn't give a shit.

i don't think there is anything wrong about passionately opposing palin like you do. i just want to point out that such passionate opposition is not shared by a majority of voters.

and even if the democrats are energized, if the independents get fed up with obama, they'll vote for the other choice, even if it's palin. of course a fraction of them won't vote for palin, but they as a group don't hate her like democrats.

[low preference guy]

i'm sorry, i really should know better than getting involved in a palin thread-- that is one human being (and, honest, the only one i've ever known) that makes my hair stand on end and my anger reach areas i never knew it could reach... :o

what makes palin worse than obama?

[low preference guy]

Palin stated publicly that enforcement of marijuana laws should be given a low priority. Although not the ideal position, Obama hasn't gone that far. That makes Palin better than Obama in my book.

[silus]

what makes palin worse than obama?
Democrats are naturally cowards, and can be moved off position because they don't believe in principles but just "good ideas," which is not really solid ground. Insane conservatives will die before they rethink their position.

[Fozz]

Palin seems like she might be a little more strident in reducing the government domestically .... how does she stack up on foreign policy? Is she speaking against nation building and policing the world, and looking to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan any time soon?

On foreign policy, Sarah Palin is simply terrible.

[low preference guy]

On foreign policy, Sarah Palin is simply terrible.

unlike obama?

[Imaginos]

Steele spoke the truth.
Palin is a neocon.
Case closed.
:cool:

[specsaregood]

Democrats are naturally cowards, and can be moved off position because they don't believe in principles but just "good ideas," which is not really solid ground. Insane conservatives will die before they rethink their position.

That was beautifully put.

[ChaosControl]

She's too pro-war. I don't want another pro-war nut as the leader.

[jmdrake]

unlike obama?

At that point in the thread the comparison was between Palin and Steele. Steele has shown himself to be head and shoulders above Palin and Obama on foreign policy. Yes it's only one statement and yes he's backpeddled, but that just shows all the more how much Palin and Obama suck on the issue.

Lastly, the fact that some would take Palin over Steele just because Palin endorsed Rand show just how shrewd that endorsement was on Palin's part and how potentially dangerous that endorsement is to our overall movement. It was a short term gain and an important one. But if it blinds some of us so much that we're willing to jump on the bandwaggon to dump somebody who's being attacked solely because he's coming around to our view on a VITAL issue then it's done harm that is hard to even quantify.

[silus]

^Politics by exchanging favors is fundamentally why we are in this mess!

[Fozz]

unlike obama?

Worse than Obama. At least Obama hasn't started a war with Iran or sworn fealty to Israel's Likud regime.

[Brian4Liberty]

Let's point out the behind the scenes truth here:

- Bill Kristol called for Steele to resign.
- Bill Kristol "discovered", mentors and advises Sarah Palin.

[silentshout]

Well, I think this would be a horrible idea. I too would never vote for Palin. She's worse than Obama to me, and I greatly dislike Obama.

Michael Steele was right, and we need more people speaking the truth.

[michaelwise]

Sarah Palin was dumber than a box of rocks in the beginning of her political carrier. She is now learning about major issues and understanding the issues at hand. She is now invoking the motherly embrace of preservation of her cubs and what it will take to ensure the survival of her children and grandchildren in America. It's a mothers instinct and I welcome her awakening.

Palin may very well be our first woman President. Sarah needs to acknowledge how the police state has formed around us and cite the work of people like Ron Paul and Alex Jones in bringing about her awakening. She must cite; this is not how Americans are supposed to live, if she is to get my vote. The womens vote will be key in the elections that follow. Sarah is doing a good job on that front, moving women away from progressive liberalism.

[libertybrewcity]

People should just do what they believe and avoid trying to repay "favors." No one owes Palin SHIT for supporting Rand.

who knows what kind of deals Rand made with Palin. Are we sure it was a "free" endorsement or an exchange of endorsements in the future, a promise that Rand would endorse her in her future endeavors. That is what worries me.

[libertybrewcity]

we have to remember she rand as mccains running mate, and if the pair won she would have been ready to endorse every decision made by mccain. Palin is nothing but a gilded neocon.

[low preference guy]

who knows what kind of deals Rand made with Palin. Are we sure it was a "free" endorsement or an exchange of endorsements in the future, a promise that Rand would endorse her in her future endeavors. That is what worries me.

i'm pretty sure rand didn't promise her anything.

[michaelwise]

I'm praying McCain will be dead by the 2012 election.

[libertybrewcity]

i'm pretty sure rand didn't promise her anything.

I really hope so LPG but you never know what kind of trick these politicians are pulling behind the scene. I look at it as her way of building up a little coalition before the 2012 primary.



I'm praying McCain will be dead by the 2012 election.

I remember when the media attacking McCain back in 08 they said as a "reason to vote for Obama" there was a 30-something percent chance he would die during his four year term. Im sure that has increased during 09 and 10. Maybe this upcoming primary will give him a heart attack. lol

[Pauls' Revere]

don't you remember...jesuuuuuuuus told us to go into iraq.....

Like this...
YouTube - Sarah Palin isn't Sure if God Still Wants Us to Kill Iraqis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UpOak4xkEI&NR=1)
;)

[silus]

Sarah Palin was dumber than a box of rocks in the beginning of her political carrier. She is now learning about major issues and understanding the issues at hand. She is now invoking the motherly embrace of preservation of her cubs and what it will take to ensure the survival of her children and grandchildren in America. It's a mothers instinct and I welcome her awakening.

Palin may very well be our first woman President. Sarah needs to acknowledge how the police state has formed around us and cite the work of people like Ron Paul and Alex Jones in bringing about her awakening. She must cite; this is not how Americans are supposed to live, if she is to get my vote. The womens vote will be key in the elections that follow. Sarah is doing a good job on that front, moving women away from progressive liberalism.
lol... sorry.

[libertybrewcity]

Like this...
YouTube - Sarah Palin isn't Sure if God Still Wants Us to Kill Iraqis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UpOak4xkEI&NR=1)
;)

dear god.

[BetaMale]

Democrats are naturally cowards, and can be moved off position because they don't believe in principles but just "good ideas," which is not really solid ground. Insane conservatives will die before they rethink their position.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. The green, social darwinist liberals will never ever change their opinion.... ever. When they made up their mind that Obama was their guy, nothing will waver their opinion, even if you point out the fact that Obama has expanded wars in the middle east.

While on the other hand, my dad, who is a lifetime GOP member is now starting to tell me that the GOP has lost their way and he's changing his mind on all sorts of shit. Initially he said Meg Whitman was going to be a good selection for CA, and recently he has come to me and said her position to not attack union pensions and support for Van Jones has changed his mind.

It may be your opinion that liberals aren't as stubborn as conservatives, but true conservatives, even the 'insane' ones understand when government has gotten out of control. Freak liberals never will.

[michaelwise]

lol... sorry.Thanks.

[libertybrewcity]

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. The green, social darwinist liberals will never ever change their opinion.... ever. When they made up their mind that Obama was their guy, nothing will waver their opinion, even if you point out the fact that Obama has expanded wars in the middle east.

While on the other hand, my dad, who is a lifetime GOP member is now starting to tell me that the GOP has lost their way and he's changing his mind on all sorts of shit. Initially he said Meg Whitman was going to be a good selection for CA, and recently he has come to me and said her position to not attack union pensions and support for Van Jones has changed his mind.

It may be your opinion that liberals aren't as stubborn as conservatives, but true conservatives, even the 'insane' ones understand when government has gotten out of control. Freak liberals never will.

not true, look at how many liberals have been woken up by ron paul's message? A Meg Whitman will never change a liberals mind because that's who they have been fighting all along and is the set-in-stone enemy. But when you introduce a liberty candidate that speaks what is actually the truth, liberals will change. I know many people that are changing their ideas about liberty and the role of government after a few drunken conversations about liberty and philosophy :)

[Depressed Liberator]

Wait, does anyone here realize that Rand had a comfortable lead before her endorsement?

[charrob]

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. The green, social darwinist liberals will never ever change their opinion.... ever.

the Greens didn't support Obama: Cindy Sheehan is a Green and she voted for Cynthia McKinney.

many liberals stayed home or voted 3rd party, others reluctantly voted for Obama; only the DINO's were elated about his victory.

most true liberals have already departed from supporting him.

[libertybrewcity]

Wait, does anyone here realize that Rand had a comfortable lead before her endorsement?

Yes, but I think it was more of a phycological victory for some. It kind of solidified a sketchy race at the time.

The endorsement was on February 1, 2010 and no polling was done from mid December to the end of february. We may never know what kind of effect it really had on the polls.
http://www.pollster.com/polls/ky/10-ky-sen-reppr.php

[libertybrewcity]

the Greens didn't support Obama: Cindy Sheehan is a Green and she voted for Cynthia McKinney.

many liberals stayed home or voted 3rd party, others reluctantly voted for Obama; only the DINO's were elated about his victory.

most true liberals have already departed from supporting him.

not true. He received a record number of votes. Everyone voted for him from greens to progressives to democrats and previously republican students because he stood for something new. He was against the war in Iraq and that is all people needed to hear.

[Depressed Liberator]

not true. He received a record number of votes. Everyone voted for him from greens to progressives to democrats and previously republican students because he stood for something new. He was against the war in Iraq and that is all people needed to hear.

Did you ever think that maybe more people just voted in general, regardless of what their political ideologies were? People were just tired of Bush and the GOP. They expected something new, but aren't getting it.

[charrob]

not true. He received a record number of votes. Everyone voted for him from greens to progressives to democrats and previously republican students because he stood for something new. He was against the war in Iraq and that is all people needed to hear.

He did receive a record number of votes: lots of independents went Obama. And lots of DINOs. The number of "liberals" and "greens" in the population are small compared to the number of DINOs. Cindy Sheehan is no DINO-- she's the real thing-- and she voted Cynthia McKinney because Obama was pro-war (in Afghan.).

I agree with your sentiment that many liberals have converted to Ron Paul --because they realize the democrats no longer represent the principles of peace and civil liberties.

[silus]

--

[libertybrewcity]

Did you ever think that maybe more people just voted in general, regardless of what their political ideologies were? People were just tired of Bush and the GOP. They expected something new, but aren't getting it.

yes, exactly. everybody liked what this guy was saying which was his ideology. obviously, that failed miserably. he was for change which translated into new programs, end to the wars, etc etc. Everybody liked something he was saying.

[charrob]

Everybody liked something he was saying.

i didn't ;).

[silus]

I think many first initially came to Obama for change, then they got past the superficial and arrived at Ron Paul.

[michaelwise]

Sarah Palin was dumber than a box of rocks in the beginning of her political carrier. She is now learning about major issues and understanding the issues at hand. She is now invoking the motherly embrace of preservation of her cubs and what it will take to ensure the survival of her children and grandchildren in America. It's a mothers instinct and I welcome her awakening.

Palin may very well be our first woman President. Sarah needs to acknowledge how the police state has formed around us and cite the work of people like Ron Paul and Alex Jones in bringing about her awakening. She must cite; this is not how Americans are supposed to live, if she is to get my vote. The womens vote will be key in the elections that follow. Sarah is doing a good job on that front, moving women away from progressive liberalism.I thought I'd get more bashing on this comment.

[lynnf]

replacing one loose cannon with another is not an improvement in my opinion.

lynn

[jmdrake]

Like this...
YouTube - Sarah Palin isn't Sure if God Still Wants Us to Kill Iraqis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UpOak4xkEI&NR=1)
;)

Actually this isn't so bad. She's not saying Iraq is a task from God but that people need to pray to see if such things are really God's will. While it's disheartening on the one had that it's not obvious to some folks that God doesn't want us invading other countries based on faulty intelligence (lies actually), it's good to know that she's open to the idea that God really didn't want us there. Maybe upon prayer and reflection she'll realize that Michael Steele and Ron Paul are right on Afghanistan. Then Bill Kristol can start hating on her too.

[chadhb]

She is Neo-Con Scum, put whatever lipstick on that pig, Neo-Con Scum.

[demolama]

In what screwed up world is a woman who leaves her elected position actually influential?

What gives her power? Certainly not her integrity and sense of duty. She is a quitter.

Seriously who is not to say she wouldn't just up and quit another elected position again? There is a trust issue here. Why should I trust someone that was elected to do a job and left not even half way through her term?


This woman is untrustworthy and lacks integrity. She is poison... and only GOP followers think otherwise.

[someperson]

Ms. Palin promotes the philosophy of foreign and domestic interventionism, and that is unacceptable to me. What I found disturbing about that whole prayer speech wasn't as much the typical-politician, religious demagoguery, but how joyful and excited she was about using stolen money to construct a gas pipeline, among other things.

[DrillHereEnvironmentalist]

Palin stated publicly that enforcement of marijuana laws should be given a low priority. Although not the ideal position, Obama hasn't gone that far. That makes Palin better than Obama in my book.

Low priority is still a weak and unacceptable position. Failure to treat MJ as a hot button issue is also pretty weak in my book.

The Republican Core Principles as they apply to everything including Marijuana... Less Gov. interference in every aspect of my life, lower taxes, less wasteful spending on useless agency's and programs... and stay the {expletive deleted} out of my garden.

IT would be much better from a PR standpoint if Palin were NOT the Chairman, or a candidate for that matter. Dont get me wrong, I appreciate Sarah being an annoyance to "Progressives" {particularly those who identify themselves as 'progressive because it sounds kewl} Elitist's/Snobbish types and Elitist/ Snob wannabes. They deserve someone like her to whine about.