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Brian4Liberty
06-30-2010, 03:37 PM
Direct quote during questioning by Grassley. She was most likely trying to infer that she wouldn't "create" any previously undocumented gay rights or gay marriage right. She painted herself into a corner on that one.

Matt Collins
06-30-2010, 03:47 PM
She painted herself into a corner on that one.No she didn't. She could lie until the cows come home, and once she is confirmed and seated, then there is nothing anyone can do about it. Supreme Court Justices are not held accountable to anyone so long as they don't get charged with a felony.


Also she forgets that our rights do not originate from the Constitution. Our rights existed long before the Constitution, and thus this government, was created. Our rights do not need to be enumerated, they just simply exist.

TinCanToNA
06-30-2010, 04:07 PM
Also she forgets that our rights do not originate from the Constitution. Our rights existed long before the Constitution, and thus this government, was created. Our rights do not need to be enumerated, they just simply exist.Yes indeed. Only the power of the government need be enumerated. Everything else is extraneous and Unconstitutional.

Brian4Liberty
06-30-2010, 04:34 PM
No she didn't. She could lie until the cows come home,

Lol! She's been lying the whole time. She's a professional liar. She makes Bill Clinton look like an amateur with his "it depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is"...


Also she forgets that our rights do not originate from the Constitution. Our rights existed long before the Constitution, and thus this government, was created. Our rights do not need to be enumerated, they just simply exist.

Absolutely. That's the entire point. According to Kagan, you don't have any rights unless the Constitution already granted them to you. She believes in "benevolent dictator", big mommy, totalitarian government. It's lurking behind almost everything she says.

georgiaboy
06-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Just based on the little I've heard/read she absolutely should not get affirmed.

Matt Collins
06-30-2010, 08:48 PM
Absolutely. That's the entire point. According to Kagan, you don't have any rights unless the Constitution already granted them to you. She believes in "benevolent dictator", big mommy, totalitarian government. It's lurking behind almost everything she says.Positivist law is what is taught in law schools now, not natural law. This is why.

Original_Intent
06-30-2010, 10:47 PM
She's always got the tenth amendment for her "textual basis".

michaelwise
06-30-2010, 10:54 PM
kagan will work hard for the Israeli Zionists, that I am sure of.

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Brian4Liberty
07-01-2010, 07:27 PM
kagan will work hard for the Israeli Zionists, that I am sure of.


Not sure about that (she is a hard leftist after all), but it does beg a question based on the hearings. In between the trivial banter and ethnic humor, Kagan talked a bit about her hero, a liberal activist Supreme Court Justice in Israel. She also repeated quite a few times that Israel has no Constitution. When added together, her seeming dismissal of the US Constitution, combined with her admiration for the Israeli system and the relevance of international law could lead one to the conclusion that ultimately she would like to see the US Constitution go away and be replaced. No doubt the replacement would be an international (UN?) system of law based on the Israeli system. Pure conjecture of course.

Brian4Liberty
03-27-2011, 08:02 PM
*zombie bump*