Pat Tillman movie Trailer

[Ekrub]

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810129286/video/20450684

Doesn't really explain the whole controversy, but it looks like there is a big coverup in the pat tillman death by the military.

[John Taylor]

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810129286/video/20450684

Doesn't really explain the whole controversy, but it looks like there is a big coverup in the pat tillman death by the military.

He was killed by members of the U.S. military by accident during a firefight. Then the U.S. military lied about it---causing the problem.

[Ekrub]

I know that, but it seemed to me that there was more controversy because the trailer hinted at something a little more sinister. Maybe not. :confused:

[John Taylor]

I know that, but it seemed to me that there was more controversy because the trailer hinted at something a little more sinister. Maybe not. :confused:

Interesting, I'll check it out.

[Galileo Galilei]

There are two excellent books out on Tillman. He was most likely killed on purpose by Donald Rumsfeld.

[Galileo Galilei]

Everyone here should read these:

Boots on the Ground by Dusk: My Tribute to Pat Tillman
by Mary Tillman
http://www.amazon.com/Boots-Ground-Dusk-Tribute-Tillman/dp/1594868808

Where Men Win Glory: The Odyssey of Pat Tillman
by Jon Krakauer
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Men-Win-Glory-Odyssey/dp/0385522266/ref=pd_sim_b_1

[Bruno]

How timely, considering he is in hot water today for comments made about Obama and his administration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_McChrystal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman#Death

Controversy surrounding Tillman's death
A report described in The Washington Post on May 4, 2005, (prepared upon the request of Tillman's family) by Brig. Gen. Gary M. Jones revealed that in the days immediately following Tillman's death, U.S. Army investigators were aware that Tillman was killed by friendly fire, shot three times to the head.[12] Jones reported that senior Army commanders, including Gen. John Abizaid, knew of this fact within days of the shooting but nevertheless approved the awarding of the Silver Star, Purple Heart, and a posthumous promotion.

Lt. Gen. Stanley McChrystal approved the Silver Star citation on April 28, 2004, which gave a detailed account of Tillman's death including the phrase "in the line of devastating enemy fire", but the next day he sent a P4 memo warning senior government members that Tillman might actually have been killed by friendly fire.[13] Top commanders within the U.S. Central Command, including former Commander of the United States Central Command (CENTCOM) General John Abizaid, should have been notified by the P4 memo,[14] which described Tillman's "highly possible" fratricide, four days before Tillman's nationally televised memorial service during which he was lauded as a war hero for dying while engaging the enemy.[15][16]

Jones reported that members of Tillman's unit burned his body armor and uniform in an apparent attempt to hide the fact that he was killed by friendly fire.[17] Perhaps most tragically, his notebook, in which, according to author Jon Krakauer, Tillman had recorded some of his thoughts on Afghanistan, was also burned, a blatant violation of protocol.[18] Several soldiers were subsequently punished for their actions by being removed from the United States Army Rangers.[17] Jones believed that Tillman should retain his medals and promotion, since, according to Jones, he intended to engage the enemy and, in Jones's opinion, behaved heroically.[17]

[Aratus]

the rolling stone article? the movie now being hollywood? this is one long hot summer...

[lynnf]

He was killed by members of the U.S. military by accident during a firefight. Then the U.S. military lied about it---causing the problem.


yeah, three rounds from close range in the forehead in a tight pattern is "by mistake" allright.

lynn

[Aratus]

someone is up there with georgie patton in terms of a potus and PR let alone our longish war...
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/22/how-did-rolling-stone-get-the-mcchrystal-story-a-volcano-helped/ indeed has our ever lovin' quite quotable
'war on terror' gen'l now ranked his motor-mouth-itus jist a tad short of calais's totally famous tourist let
alone his urbane pacific area rival who once had 1950 era nukes under his command? is barack obama feeling
happily harry truman!esque as he's being "tested"...? this is one long hot summer. oh joy! quotable generals all!




o tempores, o mores!

[jmdrake]

Pat Tillman had started criticizing the war in Afghanistan before he was frag....(excuse me. Killed by "friendly fire").

[BenIsForRon]

He was killed by members of the U.S. military by accident during a firefight. Then the U.S. military lied about it---causing the problem.

Wrong, it was no accident.

Pat Tillman was beginning to speak openly with his fellow soldiers about his disdain for the Iraq War, and he had even scheduled a meeting with Noam Chomsky once he returned from Afghanistan. He was a danger to the continuing public support for the war.

Just look at all of the circumstances, they way his group was ordered to continue on foot after their Humvee broke down, three shots in a tight grouping on his forehead, burning of his diary and clothes, soldiers posted outside one of his fellow soldiers room to prevent them from speaking to the press. There is much more evidence, and when you look at it all together, you realize that it was no accident, and the cover-up was probably planned in advance of his death.

Hopefully this movie shows this was more than a cover-up of friendly fire.

[Galileo Galilei]

One of the more interesting distortions I learned from the Tillman books is this; teh Bush administration portrayed Tillman as a ghood Christian fighting for the cause, when Tillman was actually an atheist.

Read the books.

In the trailor, Rumsfeld says he didn't remember when he first heard that Tillman was killed. But Rumsfeld knew right away when Tillman enlisted, he was keeping track of him, and was sending Mrs. Tillman personal postacrds and messages.

Rumsfled did it, with help from McCrystal.

[jmdrake]

Don't you know? That is all coincidence. Circumstantial evidence can only be used to convict people outside the government of murder. If the government is acused you must ignore means, motive and opportunity even during the discovery phase and assume the best. That's because the government isn't evil. It can't be. People outside the government can be evil, but once they swear that oath to uphold the constitution they automatically become "good". The government is just too incompetent to be evil. If it tried to do anything evil then it couldn't keep that secret. Stuff would leak out. So ignore all of the evidence of evil that actually does leak out because that can be explained by incompetence and coincidence. You can't say the government might have been involved unless someone from the government actually confesses. And if you get a confession (as in the death-bed confession of E. Howard Hunt (http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1918.shtml) for the conspiracy to kill JFK) then the proper think to do is to give it a little bit of press (Rolling Stone Magazine) until the sheeple get distracted by the latest celebrity starlet going into rehab or kissing another girl and the story goes away on its own.


Wrong, it was no accident.

Pat Tillman was beginning to speak openly with his fellow soldiers about his disdain for the Iraq War, and he had even scheduled a meeting with Noam Chomsky once he returned from Afghanistan. He was a danger to the continuing public support for the war.

Just look at all of the circumstances, they way his group was ordered to continue on foot after their Humvee broke down, three shots in a tight grouping on his forehead, burning of his diary and clothes, soldiers posted outside one of his fellow soldiers room to prevent them from speaking to the press. There is much more evidence, and when you look at it all together, you realize that it was no accident, and the cover-up was probably planned in advance of his death.

Hopefully this movie shows this was more than a cover-up of friendly fire.

[Bruno]

Wrong, it was no accident.

Pat Tillman was beginning to speak openly with his fellow soldiers about his disdain for the Iraq War, and he had even scheduled a meeting with Noam Chomsky once he returned from Afghanistan. He was a danger to the continuing public support for the war.

Just look at all of the circumstances, they way his group was ordered to continue on foot after their Humvee broke down, three shots in a tight grouping on his forehead, burning of his diary and clothes, soldiers posted outside one of his fellow soldiers room to prevent them from speaking to the press. There is much more evidence, and when you look at it all together, you realize that it was no accident, and the cover-up was probably planned in advance of his death.

Hopefully this movie shows this was more than a cover-up of friendly fire.

I knew it was friendly fire, but didn't know much else. Here's an article from inforwars that discusses it along with the Jessica Lynch case.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/military/tillman_was_tillman_murdered_to_conceal_truth.htm