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Anti Federalist
06-20-2010, 09:20 AM
Shameless cross post, but an important story, I think.

Napolitano: Internet Monitoring Needed to Fight Homegrown Terrorism

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...+-+Politics%29

WASHINGTON -- Fighting homegrown terrorism by monitoring Internet communications is a civil liberties trade-off the U.S. government must make to beef up national security, the nation's homeland security chief said Friday.

As terrorists increasingly recruit U.S. citizens, the government needs to constantly balance Americans' civil rights and privacy with the need to keep people safe, said Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

But finding that balance has become more complex as homegrown terrorists have used the Internet to reach out to extremists abroad for inspiration and training. Those contacts have spurred a recent rash of U.S.-based terror plots and incidents.

"The First Amendment protects radical opinions, but we need the legal tools to do things like monitor the recruitment of terrorists via the Internet," Napolitano told a gathering of the American Constitution Society for Law and Policy.

Napolitano's comments suggest an effort by the Obama administration to reach out to its more liberal, Democratic constituencies to assuage fears that terrorist worries will lead to the erosion of civil rights.

The administration has faced a number of civil liberties and privacy challenges in recent months as it has tried to increase airport security by adding full-body scanners, or track suspected terrorists traveling into the United States from other countries.

"Her speech is sign of the maturing of the administration on this issue," said Stewart Baker, former undersecretary for policy with the Department of Homeland Security. "They now appreciate the risks and the trade-offs much more clearly than when they first arrived, and to their credit, they've adjusted their preconceptions."

(Ummm, just who the fuck authorized any "trade off" of my rights? - AF)

Underscoring her comments are a number of recent terror attacks over the past year where legal U.S. residents such as Times Square bombing suspect Faisal Shahzad and accused Fort Hood, Texas, shooter Maj. Nidal Hasan, are believed to have been inspired by the Internet postings of violent Islamic extremists.

And the fact that these are U.S. citizens or legal residents raises many legal and constitutional questions.

Napolitano said it is wrong to believe that if security is embraced, liberty is sacrificed.

She added, "We can significantly advance security without having a deleterious impact on individual rights in most instances. At the same time, there are situations where trade-offs are inevitable."

As an example, she noted the struggle to use full-body scanners at airports caused worries that they would invade people's privacy.

The scanners are useful in identifying explosives or other nonmetal weapons that ordinary metal-detectors might miss -- such as the explosives that authorities said were successfully brought on board the Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas Day by Nigerian Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. He is accused of trying to detonate a bomb hidden in his underwear, but the explosives failed, and only burned Abdulmutallab.

U.S. officials, said Napolitano, have worked to institute a number of restrictions on the scanners' use in order to minimize that. The scans cannot be saved or stored on the machines by the operator, and Transportation Security Agency workers can't have phones or cameras that could capture the scan when near the machine.

TNforPaul45
06-20-2010, 09:43 AM
"trade-off"

It's such a nice, neatly wrapped, succinct little word, isn't it.

Trade liberty for security? Yes master Napolitano, may i please have seconds?

catdd
06-20-2010, 10:27 AM
All a real terrorist would have to do is cross the southern border and walk into a crowd and blow himself up.
They don't care about terrorism, it's about the first amendment. This administration wants to keep the country in a constant state of emergency using "terrorism" as an excuse so that they can enact socialist laws and provisions. That is how they intend to bypass the constitution.

Cowlesy
06-20-2010, 11:09 AM
It's like they try and figure out every conceivable way of protecting citizens not only from foreign threats, but domestic ones too.

Like many of us and many scholars have said, you will never eliminate all risk from life. People should be read a disclaimer when they turn eighteen that says, "The Government can't protect you from everything, and no you can't sue it if something happens to you and the Government wasn't there to help you, so BE SMART and CAREFUL."

I want the government to have enough nukes that ruskies won't try anything, that if the Chinese get a Transport ship full of tanks/invasion force 100 miles off the coast, the Air Force can torch them in five minutes, and enough advanced tanks/artillery just in case the damn canadians or mexicans start getting a little uppity.

As for the internet, hands off. It's the taxpayers (who pay for you to put food on your own table) exercising their ability to communicate. So stay out of it.

tangent4ronpaul
06-20-2010, 11:22 AM
> homegrown terrorism
vs
> terrorists increasingly recruit U.S. citizens

talk about an oxymoron? - this bitch needs to grow a brain!

OH - I forgot, sorry... a High IQ is a dis-qualifier for law enforcement employment. That explains it. My bad!

> a number of recent terror attacks over the past year....

umm, lets see - the guy that couldn't light the firecracker in his shoe
the guy that set his genitals on fire
the guy - er, excuse me, "bomb expert" that couldn't set off a car bomb with fireworks after supposedly attending bomb making school in the sandbox....

YEAH RIGHT! :rolleyes:

-t

HOLLYWOOD
06-20-2010, 11:34 AM
The true final objective of ALL this... for government to have complete control, maintain power, and protect themselves.

US Citizens are always secondary, with the exception of the first Tuesday in November.