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Brian4Liberty
06-18-2010, 07:22 PM
Seems like in an emergency, Jindal should tell the Coast Guard to lead or get out of the freakin way.

YouTube - Feds, State Officials Clash Over Gulf Cleanup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfXyCk1yY1Q)

YouTube - What the **** is Going On Here?! Against Gov.'s Wishes, Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yysw_4K2xNA)

susano
06-18-2010, 07:27 PM
Yes, he should. And if Jindal capitualtes to the feds, then the parishes should over-ride him.

paulitics
06-18-2010, 07:44 PM
This is bullshit. The Feds are stalling because they want the oil to reach onshore, so they can push through a cap and trade bill that has been collecting dust over the year. It would make great propaganda to show dead oil laden sea creatures washed up on shore juxtaposed to an oil rig. Yeah, they can do a great job showing the mess, but fail remarkably with the cleanup.

Unfortunately for them it is taking longer than expected to reach the coast, so now they look like incompetent a-holes with their thumbs up their rectums. Instead of government appearing to be the solution, they now appear to be the problem to anyone paying remotely attention. Everyone knows that if they didn't get in the way, so much more could have and would have been done by now.

Jindal should just do what is necessary to prevent as much oil from reaching the coastline as possible. Fuck the beaurocracy, lives and property are at stake. If he has the people behind him, then he has nothing to fear from the Feds.

MsDoodahs
06-18-2010, 07:58 PM
Yes, he should. And if Jindal capitualtes to the feds, then the parishes should over-ride him.

^ This.

TOTALLY.

virgil47
06-18-2010, 08:05 PM
Can he legally disregard the Coast Guard? Can they arrest him if he disregards them? Can he disregard federal law? Does his state or any state control any of the waters off it's coast or is it all federally controlled? Can he be charged with sedition if he disregards the feds? I for one do not know the answer to these questions and the answers must be known before any action is taken.

libertybrewcity
06-18-2010, 08:05 PM
there must be some underlying reason why obama isn't cleaning this shi* up faster. what it is i don't know.

someone above mentioned cap and trade legislation. maybe he is trying to nationalize the oil companies? i wouldn't think so since he probably receives some campaign donations from them. I don't know what his deal is?

Kotin
06-18-2010, 08:08 PM
he should, but this Rhodes Scholar tool will not.

Brian4Liberty
06-18-2010, 09:56 PM
there must be some underlying reason why obama isn't cleaning this shi* up faster. what it is i don't know.


It usually boils down to money and little tin dictators. Tons of infighting, because everyone (different departments, agencies, and companies) wants their share of Federal budget money and that nice little pot of gold that Obama just secured for them from BP.

Also, there is no doubt a whole lot of Chicago-style infighting over who gets the clean-up contracts. Which Unions? Which contractors? God forbid some do-gooders clean up some of that oil before all the corrupt insiders figure who gets what cut...

Brian4Liberty
06-18-2010, 09:58 PM
This is bullshit. The Feds are stalling because they want the oil to reach onshore, so they can push through a cap and trade bill that has been collecting dust over the year. It would make great propaganda to show dead oil laden sea creatures washed up on shore juxtaposed to an oil rig.

Yep, that too. Never waste a good crisis... :rolleyes:

LittleLightShining
06-19-2010, 05:47 AM
This is bullshit. The Feds are stalling because they want the oil to reach onshore, so they can push through a cap and trade bill that has been collecting dust over the year. It would make great propaganda to show dead oil laden sea creatures washed up on shore juxtaposed to an oil rig. Yeah, they can do a great job showing the mess, but fail remarkably with the cleanup.

Unfortunately for them it is taking longer than expected to reach the coast, so now they look like incompetent a-holes with their thumbs up their rectums. Instead of government appearing to be the solution, they now appear to be the problem to anyone paying remotely attention. Everyone knows that if they didn't get in the way, so much more could have and would have been done by now.

Jindal should just do what is necessary to prevent as much oil from reaching the coastline as possible. Fuck the beaurocracy, lives and property are at stake. If he has the people behind him, then he has nothing to fear from the Feds.Absolutely.


It usually boils down to money and little tin dictators. Tons of infighting, because everyone (different departments, agencies, and companies) wants their share of Federal budget money and that nice little pot of gold that Obama just secured for them from BP.

Also, there is no doubt a whole lot of Chicago-style infighting over who gets the clean-up contracts. Which Unions? Which contractors? God forbid some do-gooders clean up some of that oil before all the corrupt insiders figure who gets what cut...
This, too.

therepublic
06-19-2010, 07:00 AM
Can he legally disregard the Coast Guard? Can they arrest him if he disregards them? Can he disregard federal law? Does his state or any state control any of the waters off it's coast or is it all federally controlled? Can he be charged with sedition if he disregards the feds? I for one do not know the answer to these questions and the answers must be known before any action is taken.

Yes they can go to jail, but County Commissioners in Akaloosa County Florida say they are willing to do just that to protect their constituents. http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/pass-30005-command-plans.html

All of us need to be willing to peacefully resist if we are going to protect one another from the monster government that is an even bigger threat than the oil spill .

Brian4Liberty
06-19-2010, 08:17 PM
Can't clean that oil unless you are from SEIU...

Brian4Liberty
06-20-2010, 02:16 PM
http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/Jindal-dismayed-after-Coast-Guard-puts-hold-on-states-vacuum-barges-96600979.html




BARATARIA BASIN, La. -- It was a frustrating morning for Gov. Bobby Jindal, who personally made sure the state’s vacuum barges were back out in the marsh sucking up BP oil.

The Coast Guard shut down the highly successful vacuum operation to inspect the vessels on Wednesday, and state leaders are now complaining the Coast Guard is getting in the way of the oil spill response.

The state’s fleet of 16 vacuum barges went back to work Thursday afternoon. The Louisiana National Guard-designed vessels can now suck up about 4000 gallons of oil every 90 minutes.

Despite their success at cleaning up BP polluted wetlands like Bay Jimmy, located in the Barataria Basin between Grand Isle and lower Lafitte, the Coast Guard shut down their operation for more than a day.

Jindal traveled to Empire on Thursday only to find eight barges still tied up at the marina.

“What's so frustrating is the stories kept changing,” Jindal said. “Yesterday morning, they said we're shutting down. Then, they can't find the boats to go out and inspect. They didn't realize that they'd approved them already.”

Coast Guard Commander Dan Laur said the vessels needed safety inspections.

The issue that we were looking at is the safety and stability with the vessels, safety of the crew on board, make sure they had the proper firefighting equipment, there was grounding in case lighting as you see, things like that,” Laur said.

The governor says the fact that these barges were tied up at the dock for the past 24 hours is just another example of a disconnect between the federal response and the state and local response to this oil spill

“We never got a clear answer why they were shutting it down, what they needed to do. This morning again, pushed the White House, met with the captain in charge of the Coast Guard for Louisiana's oil spill response. They told us they were going to let them go this morning and you know what the contractors told us the inspector finally showed up this morning and told them never mind,” Jindal said.

AlexMerced
06-20-2010, 04:00 PM
Is this the building of sand wall this is about, cause I read that would also cause other problems, even though arn't they doing it now?

Thor
06-20-2010, 04:09 PM
there must be some underlying reason why obama isn't cleaning this shi* up faster. what it is i don't know.

someone above mentioned cap and trade legislation. maybe he is trying to nationalize the oil companies? i wouldn't think so since he probably receives some campaign donations from them. I don't know what his deal is?

This...

YouTube - Maxine Waters Threatens to Socialize Big Oil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0BdKkEKTrs)