New PPP Poll: Ron Paul at 6% Nationally

[RonPaulFanInGA]

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/monthly-gop-poll.html


For the fourth month in a row PPP's national look ahead to the 2012 Presidential contest finds Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee owning the top two spots, but Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich aren't too far behind.

Romney has 25% to 22% for Huckabee, 19% for Palin, and 15% for Gingrich. Ron Paul finishes further back with 6%.

[Promontorium]

Ladies and gentlemen, president and Fox News host.... Oh shit.

This is why people suck. Those "candidates" can't win, it's just that most people polled don't actually care at all, and since the media drama for 2012 has not yet been seeded in their sour brains, they default on names from the last election.

[Kregisen]

25% for Romney and 22% for Huckabee?

Do people not realize those are the two of the biggest big-government republican candidates?

Do people not realize that Huckabee wants an unconstitional federal ban on smoking, including private property and Romney is the governor of a state with universal healthcare?

Are most people really this stupid?


Is an IQ requirement to vote unconstitional? :mad:

[JacksonianBME]

25% for Romney and 22% for Huckabee?

Do people not realize those are the two of the biggest big-government republican candidates?

Do people not realize that Huckabee wants an unconstitional federal ban on smoking, including private property and Romney is the governor of a state with universal healthcare?

Are most people really this stupid?


Is an IQ requirement to vote unconstitional? :mad:


I recently convinced my parents that Huckabee's approach to restore "morality" in America as the cure for our problems is equivalent to socialism as you would have to have a bunch of government minions policing people.

[low preference guy]

Is an IQ requirement to vote unconstitional? :mad:

IQ is racist.

[tjeffersonsghost]

Is an IQ requirement to vote unconstitional? :mad:

Alexander Hamilton talked about this issue quite a bit while the founding of our country was taking place. Hamilton's view was the people were to stupid to run their own country and should not be trusted with voting the people in power in. Jefferson however saw it otherwise. Jefferson won.

[teacherone]

IQ is racist.

lol...really now

[sofia]

GOP is beyond hope.

What needs to happen in 2012 is for Ron Paul to get at least 10% in the primaries....and then either he, or an another needs to run as an independent.

Sorry guys....but Ron will NEVER win the GOP primary unless he suddenly comes out in favor of more aid to Israel and for nuking Iranian women and children in the name of Jesus.

[TNforPaul45]

If Ron can pull even withe Obama in one poll and be at 6% in another, this should enlighten your mind to the fact that polls are nearly worthless besides telling us which way the propaganda winds are blowing.

Primaries are rigged.
Voting districts are rigged.
Voting is rigged.

It's all rather sickening real, but we are making wonderful progress though. If Rand Paul wins the general then you will see a bump for Ron in the "worthless" polls.

[tjeffersonsghost]

GOP is beyond hope.

What needs to happen in 2012 is for Ron Paul to get at least 10% in the primaries....and then either he, or an another needs to run as an independent.

Sorry guys....but Ron will NEVER win the GOP primary unless he suddenly comes out in favor of more aid to Israel and for nuking Iranian women and children in the name of Jesus.

Yup... You see how the GOP is hijacking that Angle chick in NV? She is no longer an oath keeper and fluoride is now good in her eyes. She doesnt want to repeal Medicare or SS now, she wants to "personalize" it. The GOP is and will die a slow death.

[sevin]

Are most people really this stupid?

Yes.

[rich34]

Guys, don't be so down. I've been here since the beginning and I remember when Ron was polling nada....for ever. And when he would poll something it would be like 2 and 3 percent, but never moving above that. The fact that he's already above 5 percent in multiple polls now really imo shows that he's got a chance. Most no who he is now and it will be harder to ignore him. If Ron runs we're in good shape!

[Working Poor]

mass brainwashing still in effect folks.

[sailingaway]

Only against all the other GOP. As with the recent PPP head to head poll with Obama and with the head to head with Obama that Rasmussen does, Ron and ONLY Ron takes the independents as if they were his own party.

The issue is to get the independents before the primaries, and able to vote in the primaries. In which case the other candidates are the ones in trouble, particularly since, as an article recently put it "Paul voters are the kind who would crawl over broken glass to vote."

DOING that is going to be hard given people's typical focus on elections starting only after primaries,however.

[Elwar]

I recently convinced my parents that Huckabee's approach to restore "morality" in America as the cure for our problems is equivalent to socialism as you would have to have a bunch of government minions policing people.

It's time to start equating the neo-con urge to legislate morality with Sharia law...

It'll make their heads explode knowing that they are fighting for, what they are fighting against.

[AlexMerced]

6% nationally isn't so bar, remember what happen to Huckabee in 2008 how he jumped from single digits to the front runner. Ron Paul has anough momentum to get a lot more coverage and more time in the debates this time, and plus we're more organized.

It's an uphill battle, but it's possible, and even if we don't win it we'll be stronger, larger, and more angry on the other side... they can only hold us back for so long with this rate of growth.

[TheTyke]

Last time we polled at 1% or 2% nationally, but ended up finishing in some states with 25%.

I'd say that 6% is incredible for this early on!!! Think about what that will turn into with all our work... our numbers have grown for one... and for another, I was seriously wowed by what YAL did here in Kentucky. Rand winning was no fluke.

With the organizations being put in place, CFL, YAL etc. we have many new assets in this battle. Let's do our best, and we might be surprised by the results!

[SWATH]

That roughly puts him at about 8M votes today based on 6% of those who voted in the general election. So if he got about 1M votes total in 2008 that is an 8 fold increase. That's great but with the way things have gone since 2008 I am surprised he's not much higher than 6%.

[freshjiva]

I'm beginning to see more and more the merits of running as an Independent, but I still think he should go full force as a Republican.

If all efforts fail at winning the Republican primary, then he should go the Indy route.

But it would be really encouraging if he stood at 8-10% nationally, especially after him being spot-on regarding the real estate mess, unemployment rising, dollar losing value, and GOLD surging, and the Fed being in the middle of it all....

People just don't see it.

[Flash]

Ron Paul's favorability with Republican primary voters, at 29/25, is actually worse than the 35/25 we found for him on our poll with independents.

[Shotdown1027]

That roughly puts him at about 8M votes today based on 6% of those who voted in the general election. So if he got about 1M votes total in 2008 that is an 8 fold increase. That's great but with the way things have gone since 2008 I am surprised he's not much higher than 6%.

You're comparing primary and general numbers--they aren't comparable. 5-6% is roughly what Ron Paul finished with in the 2008 primary nationally.
But he also started off polling 0%, 1%, or 2%.

[AJ Antimony]

Great, another thread for the boobs to claim Ron Paul should run third party.

[silentshout]

I recently convinced my parents that Huckabee's approach to restore "morality" in America as the cure for our problems is equivalent to socialism as you would have to have a bunch of government minions policing people.

Wish i could convince my Dad of this. As for the poll, I will not vote for any of them other than Paul.

[silentshout]

Only against all the other GOP. As with the recent PPP head to head poll with Obama and with the head to head with Obama that Rasmussen does, Ron and ONLY Ron takes the independents as if they were his own party.

The issue is to get the independents before the primaries, and able to vote in the primaries. In which case the other candidates are the ones in trouble, particularly since, as an article recently put it "Paul voters are the kind who would crawl over broken glass to vote."

DOING that is going to be hard given people's typical focus on elections starting only after primaries,however.

Well, in Ca now the independents can vote in either primary..anyone can. I don't like prop 14, but at the very least it has saved me from having to register as a Republican to vote for Ron in the primaries.

[Kregisen]

Wish i could convince my Dad of this.


Show him this video:

YouTube - Tax Hike Mike Supports Nationwide Smoking Ban (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl81Pq4aOOo)

Show him the national debt numbers, and the fact we're now paying $400 billion ($4,000 per taxpayer) every year on the interest alone, while the debt keeps rising by more than a trillion a year, and ask him what Huckabee's plan to fight that is.... (keeping this trillion dollar empire going, the war on drugs which has toppled $1 trillion spent, keeping SS, etc)

You could also go into the whole drug legalization debate, since it's infringing freedom at a huge taxpayer cost. ( illegaldrugs.webs.com)


I'm not sure who's worse between Huckabee and Romney, but I think they're easiest the two worst candidates....

[BlackTerrel]

Great, another thread for the boobs to claim Ron Paul should run third party.

Pics

[sailingaway]

Well, in Ca now the independents can vote in either primary..anyone can. I don't like prop 14, but at the very least it has saved me from having to register as a Republican to vote for Ron in the primaries.

It would be fine if there were no limit of candidates in the general election. Limiting it to two is obscene.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Ron Paul's favorability with Republican primary voters, at 29/25, is actually worse than the 35/25 we found for him on our poll with independents.

Republicans don't want to hear about what is perceived to be a leftist foreign policy.

[Agorism]

Who's making that giant list of polls. Maybe we add this to it.

[ChaosControl]

In the end people don't want smaller government despite what they say.

Too many republicans refuse to give up their warmongering crap to ever support a non-interventionist. I doubt he'll ever top 10% national among Republicans. Now Add independents and it'll increase a fair bit I imagine.

[Agorism]

6% is better than what we had before last presidential election. Besides this is one of our lower ones because we were close to 10% in a few of the others.

[KramerDSP]

Who's making that giant list of polls. Maybe we add this to it.

IIRC it's Malzkuhm (sp)

[Epic]

State polls as of now:
7% in Iowa (PPP, May 31 2010, 7 choices - Demint & Thune): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
7% in South Carolina (PPP, May 31 2010, 6 choices - Demint -): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
6% in Michigan (PPP, May 31 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
6% in New Hampshire (Magellan, May 2010, 7 choices): http://www.magellanstrategies.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Magellan-New-Hampshire-GOP-US-Senate-Primary-Survey-Release-0528101.pdf
10% in California (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/gingrich-looking-serious.html
9% in Colorado (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_CO_518.pdf (PDF)
8% in North Carolina (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/looking-at-our-gop-polling.html
8% in Kentucky (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/paul-still-up-big.html
6% in Kentucky (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/paul-continues-to-lead-big.html
9% in Arizona (PPP, April 2010, 5 choices ): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/04/2012-gop-in-arizona.html
7% in New Hampshire (PPP, April 2010, 8 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/04/romney-up-big-in-new-hampshire.html

National Polls previously:
PPP June 2010 national poll - 6% for Ron Paul - 5 way race - http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/monthly-gop-poll.html
PPP May 2010 national poll - 8% for Ron Paul - 5 way race - http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/jumble-for-gop.html
CNN April 2010 national poll: 8% for Ron Paul - 9 way race (w/Santorum, Pence, Barbour, Pawlenty, Gingrich): http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/04/13/rel7d.pdf (PDF)
PPP March 2010 national poll - 11% for Ron Paul - 4 way race (no Gingrich): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/03/romney-leads-tight-republican-race.html
Gallup February 2010 poll: 2% for Ron Paul (open ended poll, so it's lower): http://www.gallup.com/poll/125777/Voters-Divided-Obama-Republican-Candidate-2012.aspx

Versus Obama:
PPP June 2010 poll: Obama 46 Paul 36 (Pauls win independents 46-28) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/obama-up-in-2012-contests.html
Rasmussen March 2010 poll: Obama 42 Paul 41 (highlighted by Drudge) http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41
PPP November 2009 poll: Obama 46 Paul 38 http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/11/monthly-2012-numbers.html

[justinc.1089]

Alexander Hamilton talked about this issue quite a bit while the founding of our country was taking place. Hamilton's view was the people were to stupid to run their own country and should not be trusted with voting the people in power in. Jefferson however saw it otherwise. Jefferson won.

Lots of days I often wonder if Hamilton didn't have it right...:(

[justinc.1089]

State polls as of now:
7% in Iowa (PPP, May 31 2010, 7 choices - Demint & Thune): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
7% in South Carolina (PPP, May 31 2010, 6 choices - Demint -): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
6% in Michigan (PPP, May 31 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
6% in New Hampshire (Magellan, May 2010, 7 choices): http://www.magellanstrategies.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Magellan-New-Hampshire-GOP-US-Senate-Primary-Survey-Release-0528101.pdf
10% in California (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/gingrich-looking-serious.html
9% in Colorado (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_CO_518.pdf (PDF)
8% in North Carolina (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/looking-at-our-gop-polling.html
8% in Kentucky (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/paul-still-up-big.html
6% in Kentucky (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/paul-continues-to-lead-big.html
9% in Arizona (PPP, April 2010, 5 choices ): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/04/2012-gop-in-arizona.html
7% in New Hampshire (PPP, April 2010, 8 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/04/romney-up-big-in-new-hampshire.html

National Polls previously:
PPP June 2010 national poll - 6% for Ron Paul - 5 way race - http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/monthly-gop-poll.html
PPP May 2010 national poll - 8% for Ron Paul - 5 way race - http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/jumble-for-gop.html
CNN April 2010 national poll: 8% for Ron Paul - 9 way race (w/Santorum, Pence, Barbour, Pawlenty, Gingrich): http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/04/13/rel7d.pdf (PDF)
PPP March 2010 national poll - 11% for Ron Paul - 4 way race (no Gingrich): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/03/romney-leads-tight-republican-race.html
Gallup February 2010 poll: 2% for Ron Paul (open ended poll, so it's lower): http://www.gallup.com/poll/125777/Voters-Divided-Obama-Republican-Candidate-2012.aspx

Versus Obama:
PPP June 2010 poll: Obama 46 Paul 36 (Pauls win independents 46-28) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/obama-up-in-2012-contests.html
Rasmussen March 2010 poll: Obama 42 Paul 41 (highlighted by Drudge) http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41
PPP November 2009 poll: Obama 46 Paul 38 http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/11/monthly-2012-numbers.html



Damn.

:(:eek:

6% New Hampshire
7% South Carolina


Either those two numbers are a terrible sign, or they're somehow off, because people in South Carolina the stronghold of pre-emptive war HATE Ron Paul. If those numbers are accurate people in New Hampshire better get ready. I'm trying to do what I can here to be ready if Paul runs again to try to make sure SC isn't a repeat of last time, but honestly NH is 1000 times more likely to vote for Paul than SC.

[Fredom101]

If Ron can pull even withe Obama in one poll and be at 6% in another, this should enlighten your mind to the fact that polls are nearly worthless besides telling us which way the propaganda winds are blowing.

Primaries are rigged.
Voting districts are rigged.
Voting is rigged.

It's all rather sickening real, but we are making wonderful progress though. If Rand Paul wins the general then you will see a bump for Ron in the "worthless" polls.

If anything, polls will usually overrepresent Paul. Just look at the 08 election. Terrible results.

[Fredom101]

State polls as of now:
7% in Iowa (PPP, May 31 2010, 7 choices - Demint & Thune): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
7% in South Carolina (PPP, May 31 2010, 6 choices - Demint -): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
6% in Michigan (PPP, May 31 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
6% in New Hampshire (Magellan, May 2010, 7 choices): http://www.magellanstrategies.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Magellan-New-Hampshire-GOP-US-Senate-Primary-Survey-Release-0528101.pdf
10% in California (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/gingrich-looking-serious.html
9% in Colorado (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_CO_518.pdf (PDF)
8% in North Carolina (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/looking-at-our-gop-polling.html
8% in Kentucky (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/paul-still-up-big.html
6% in Kentucky (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/paul-continues-to-lead-big.html
9% in Arizona (PPP, April 2010, 5 choices ): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/04/2012-gop-in-arizona.html
7% in New Hampshire (PPP, April 2010, 8 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/04/romney-up-big-in-new-hampshire.html

National Polls previously:
PPP June 2010 national poll - 6% for Ron Paul - 5 way race - http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/monthly-gop-poll.html
PPP May 2010 national poll - 8% for Ron Paul - 5 way race - http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/jumble-for-gop.html
CNN April 2010 national poll: 8% for Ron Paul - 9 way race (w/Santorum, Pence, Barbour, Pawlenty, Gingrich): http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/04/13/rel7d.pdf (PDF)
PPP March 2010 national poll - 11% for Ron Paul - 4 way race (no Gingrich): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/03/romney-leads-tight-republican-race.html
Gallup February 2010 poll: 2% for Ron Paul (open ended poll, so it's lower): http://www.gallup.com/poll/125777/Voters-Divided-Obama-Republican-Candidate-2012.aspx

Versus Obama:
PPP June 2010 poll: Obama 46 Paul 36 (Pauls win independents 46-28) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/obama-up-in-2012-contests.html
Rasmussen March 2010 poll: Obama 42 Paul 41 (highlighted by Drudge) http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41
PPP November 2009 poll: Obama 46 Paul 38 http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/11/monthly-2012-numbers.html

Calyfornia is the libertarian mecca! :D

Seriously, I think San Diego was the 3rd largest RP meetup in 08 in the whole country, and our population is like 1/4th of NY! Lots of liberty lovers here, surprisingly, for a socialist city.

[Anti Federalist]

Sorry guys....but Ron will NEVER win the GOP primary unless he suddenly comes out in favor of more aid to Israel and for nuking Iranian women and children in the name of Jesus.

Truth, there. ^^^

And locking up and throwing away the key at anybody who looks cross eyed at an "officer".

[freshjiva]

If anything, polls will usually overrepresent Paul. Just look at the 08 election. Terrible results.

Actually, I mildly disagree. I wouldn't call them terrible results at all. I wouldn't call them great, either.

Ron Paul received just about 1.2 million votes in the Primary and won 35 delegates.
He finished in 2nd place in 5 states and 3rd place in 16 states.

Finished in 4th place overall.

Not bad at all, if you ask me. Especially with the amount of opposition he has among neoconservatives. Add in the fact that he had very little name recognition in 2008, and you'll quickly see that finishing in 4th place is not bad at all.

2012, on the other hand, will be VERY different. I wouldn't be surprised to see him win 1st place in a handful of states and double his total primary vote count from 1.2M to 2.5M.

[rich34]

State polls as of now:
7% in Iowa (PPP, May 31 2010, 7 choices - Demint & Thune): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
7% in South Carolina (PPP, May 31 2010, 6 choices - Demint -): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
6% in Michigan (PPP, May 31 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-republican-numbers.html
6% in New Hampshire (Magellan, May 2010, 7 choices): http://www.magellanstrategies.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Magellan-New-Hampshire-GOP-US-Senate-Primary-Survey-Release-0528101.pdf
10% in California (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/gingrich-looking-serious.html
9% in Colorado (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_CO_518.pdf (PDF)
8% in North Carolina (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/looking-at-our-gop-polling.html
8% in Kentucky (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/paul-still-up-big.html
6% in Kentucky (PPP, May 2010, 5 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/paul-continues-to-lead-big.html
9% in Arizona (PPP, April 2010, 5 choices ): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/04/2012-gop-in-arizona.html
7% in New Hampshire (PPP, April 2010, 8 choices): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/04/romney-up-big-in-new-hampshire.html

National Polls previously:
PPP June 2010 national poll - 6% for Ron Paul - 5 way race - http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/monthly-gop-poll.html
PPP May 2010 national poll - 8% for Ron Paul - 5 way race - http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/jumble-for-gop.html
CNN April 2010 national poll: 8% for Ron Paul - 9 way race (w/Santorum, Pence, Barbour, Pawlenty, Gingrich): http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/04/13/rel7d.pdf (PDF)
PPP March 2010 national poll - 11% for Ron Paul - 4 way race (no Gingrich): http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/03/romney-leads-tight-republican-race.html
Gallup February 2010 poll: 2% for Ron Paul (open ended poll, so it's lower): http://www.gallup.com/poll/125777/Voters-Divided-Obama-Republican-Candidate-2012.aspx

Versus Obama:
PPP June 2010 poll: Obama 46 Paul 36 (Pauls win independents 46-28) http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/obama-up-in-2012-contests.html
Rasmussen March 2010 poll: Obama 42 Paul 41 (highlighted by Drudge) http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41
PPP November 2009 poll: Obama 46 Paul 38 http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/11/monthly-2012-numbers.html

Those are DAMN good numbers if you ask me. Just think if because of these numbers the moderators in the debates actually have to ask him the same amount of questions they do the other neocon candidates? Those poll numbers will rise like a flood in a hurricane! Ladies and Gents, if Ron decides to run, it's on like donkey kong!!

[Andrew-Austin]

25% for Romney and 22% for Huckabee?

Do people not realize those are the two of the biggest big-government republican candidates?

Do people not realize that Huckabee wants an unconstitional federal ban on smoking, including private property and Romney is the governor of a state with universal healthcare?

Are most people really this stupid?


Is an IQ requirement to vote unconstitional? :mad:

But Huckabee is just oh so religious! And Romney is just the type of handsome neocon they want, big government in all the right places, for every insane foreign policy idea, for keeping the welfare goodies for the elderly rolling.

[South Park Fan]

If anything, polls will usually overrepresent Paul. Just look at the 08 election. Terrible results.

Ron Paul polled at 1-2% in early to mid 2007, and probably didn't even register at the point four years ago. He got 5% in the primary election.

[justinc.1089]

Those are DAMN good numbers if you ask me. Just think if because of these numbers the moderators in the debates actually have to ask him the same amount of questions they do the other neocon candidates? Those poll numbers will rise like a flood in a hurricane! Ladies and Gents, if Ron decides to run, it's on like donkey kong!!


I agree completely about the numbers themselves overall, you're correct, they are pretty good!

I was pointing out New Hampshire in comparison to South Carolina being a bad sign because South Carolina will be one of the last states to vote for Paul, and we really need to win New Hampshire so we need more votes there than South Carolina lol!

[Isaac Bickerstaff]

Our strength lies in the people not being polled.
"Likely Republican voters" are the hopeless people that we complain about. These are the people that have been in the party FOREVER and just plain suck. If we get busy RIGHT NOW, we can flood the primaries or caucuses in 2012 with first time voters and run away with the nomination. No other candidate can do this. That Ron Paul is polling 6% among the brain dead losers that run the party is huge. These people are reeds bending in the wind. Fired up first time voters will make the wind blow "Ron Paul" and the reeds will break.
Here is some encouragement:
http://www.startribune.com/opinion/letters/96431194.html?elr=KArksc8P:Pc:Ug8P:Pc:UiD3aPc:_Yyc :aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr